Comments on: The Waiting Game http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/02/17/the-waiting-game/ A Lakers Blog. Thoughts, reflections, and the odd rant on the Los Angeles Lakers and the NBA (even the Clippers). Thu, 09 Feb 2012 06:27:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Zach http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/02/17/the-waiting-game/comment-page-1/#comment-2284 Zach Mon, 20 Feb 2006 15:06:02 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/02/17/the-waiting-game/#comment-2284 The Lakers didn't overpay for Derek Anderson/Antonio Daniels, that looks like a good move on their part. I don't know who/what they need, but I'd say get rid of anyone buy Kobe, Bynum. I used to think Odom was untouchable, but if the Lakers can land a 4 who can defend and rebound, why not? If anybody wants Mihm, take him. Garnett next year, where have those rumors gone to? Anyone see LeBron disappear in the final minute of the all-star game? Not an encouraging theme. The Lakers didn’t overpay for Derek Anderson/Antonio Daniels, that looks like a good move on their part. I don’t know who/what they need, but I’d say get rid of anyone buy Kobe, Bynum. I used to think Odom was untouchable, but if the Lakers can land a 4 who can defend and rebound, why not? If anybody wants Mihm, take him.

Garnett next year, where have those rumors gone to?

Anyone see LeBron disappear in the final minute of the all-star game? Not an encouraging theme.

]]> By: Goo http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/02/17/the-waiting-game/comment-page-1/#comment-2269 Goo Sun, 19 Feb 2006 01:26:07 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/02/17/the-waiting-game/#comment-2269 By rebuilding, I did not mean, trade Odom for Steve Francis. So Mitchell, if you're reading, go back to the drawing board.. By rebuilding, I did not mean, trade Odom for Steve Francis. So Mitchell, if you’re reading, go back to the drawing board..

]]> By: TC http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/02/17/the-waiting-game/comment-page-1/#comment-2266 TC Sat, 18 Feb 2006 19:21:23 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/02/17/the-waiting-game/#comment-2266 I agree with the post. I think for lots of teams, in lots of sports, this is the answer. Too often GMs think that doing >> is better than doing nothing. The Lakers have no leverage to do anything, and like you said, really don't have enough attractive parts to really attract any potentially useful players. I agree though with others that Kupchak is useless. I just have no faith in him-going back to even trading Shaq. Still, I am impressed by the job Phil has done by even keeping the club .500. But really, we can't expect much to change over the next few years. If you get ripped off for Shaq and lose such a crucial part of a squad so cheaply, it's going to take years to recover from such a loss. I say we're still four or five years away from really getting another dominant low-post player who can catapult us back into the stratosphere. I agree with the post. I think for lots of teams, in lots of sports, this is the answer. Too often GMs think that doing >> is better than doing nothing. The Lakers have no leverage to do anything, and like you said, really don’t have enough attractive parts to really attract any potentially useful players. I agree though with others that Kupchak is useless. I just have no faith in him-going back to even trading Shaq. Still, I am impressed by the job Phil has done by even keeping the club .500. But really, we can’t expect much to change over the next few years. If you get ripped off for Shaq and lose such a crucial part of a squad so cheaply, it’s going to take years to recover from such a loss. I say we’re still four or five years away from really getting another dominant low-post player who can catapult us back into the stratosphere.

]]> By: christian http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/02/17/the-waiting-game/comment-page-1/#comment-2265 christian Sat, 18 Feb 2006 15:30:10 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/02/17/the-waiting-game/#comment-2265 alright now that everyone on the western hemesphere has said something I have to say something.. The lakers are going to be okay.. (Not great until they get another player.... And I don't mean another 2 or 3 players I meant another 1 player) and with the rest that they get over the all start break they are going to have time to sit there on their couches and watch the all star game like I am going to do and say to themselves.. "wow I wish that I could be that good one day and make it on tv. because people out there think that I am an all star and not just a roll player behind the second best player ever." (kobe bean bryant.) And then they are going to say to them selves "well self lets think. I can play defense but I can't catch a ball that is thrown to my hands.. so you know what lets stop worrying about it and play like everyone knows that I can play and not like my head is allowing me to play." (mind quotes from Kwame..lol..) I think that not only this one player but the rest of the team is going to have similiar thoughts and play a lot better this season.. because if we all look back at the beggining of the year and ask ourselves where we realisticly think that the team is going to be at this point in the year.. then we should be almost there.. I love the NBA... and I hope to see Kobe get the all star MVP because that is the only mvp he is going to get unless this laker squad plays like a brand new team after the ASB. alright now that everyone on the western hemesphere has said something I have to say something.. The lakers are going to be okay.. (Not great until they get another player…. And I don’t mean another 2 or 3 players I meant another 1 player) and with the rest that they get over the all start break they are going to have time to sit there on their couches and watch the all star game like I am going to do and say to themselves.. “wow I wish that I could be that good one day and make it on tv. because people out there think that I am an all star and not just a roll player behind the second best player ever.” (kobe bean bryant.) And then they are going to say to them selves “well self lets think. I can play defense but I can’t catch a ball that is thrown to my hands.. so you know what lets stop worrying about it and play like everyone knows that I can play and not like my head is allowing me to play.” (mind quotes from Kwame..lol..) I think that not only this one player but the rest of the team is going to have similiar thoughts and play a lot better this season.. because if we all look back at the beggining of the year and ask ourselves where we realisticly think that the team is going to be at this point in the year.. then we should be almost there.. I love the NBA… and I hope to see Kobe get the all star MVP because that is the only mvp he is going to get unless this laker squad plays like a brand new team after the ASB.

]]> By: P Henry http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/02/17/the-waiting-game/comment-page-1/#comment-2184 P Henry Sat, 18 Feb 2006 02:13:27 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/02/17/the-waiting-game/#comment-2184 I refuse to believe Hoopshype or Hoopsworld regarding Kwame Brown's third year garauntee because it just doesn't make any sense. None. Jamal Crawford? We already have Smush. Crawford makes $6.8 million compared to Smush's $800,000. Considering Smush's stats are better than Crawford's I don't see any reason adding him. I refuse to believe Hoopshype or Hoopsworld regarding Kwame Brown’s third year garauntee because it just doesn’t make any sense. None.

Jamal Crawford? We already have Smush. Crawford makes $6.8 million compared to Smush’s $800,000. Considering Smush’s stats are better than Crawford’s I don’t see any reason adding him.

]]> By: Goo http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/02/17/the-waiting-game/comment-page-1/#comment-2183 Goo Sat, 18 Feb 2006 01:20:51 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/02/17/the-waiting-game/#comment-2183 I think they should just dump LO for cap space like Penny Hardaway and start the rebuilding process for next year (and years in the future). Everyone would be pissed but i'd prefer it over a few years of mediocrity...With Slava's, Devean's, and Odom's contract off the books this year we could atleast have Philip build the roster with players he wants... They need players who fit with Kobe, that basically requires one player who can somewhat consistenly create his shot when Kobe is tired/hurt/sleepy/grumpy/whatever, a plethora of 3 point specialists for Kobe double-teams (easier to find than people who can consistently drive to the basket off double teams), and good defense across the board..this team isn't capable of doing that anymore and players who can be capable should be brought in.. I do believe though, that if they stood still, they would for sure make the playoffs and perhaps make it up to the 6th seed if they regain their composure and start playing like the team we saw in Dec/Jan...the Lakers I believe have the easiest schedule after the ASB, even if they can't beat the Hawks... I think they should just dump LO for cap space like Penny Hardaway and start the rebuilding process for next year (and years in the future). Everyone would be pissed but i’d prefer it over a few years of mediocrity…With Slava’s, Devean’s, and Odom’s contract off the books this year we could atleast have Philip build the roster with players he wants…

They need players who fit with Kobe, that basically requires one player who can somewhat consistenly create his shot when Kobe is tired/hurt/sleepy/grumpy/whatever, a plethora of 3 point specialists for Kobe double-teams (easier to find than people who can consistently drive to the basket off double teams), and good defense across the board..this team isn’t capable of doing that anymore and players who can be capable should be brought in..

I do believe though, that if they stood still, they would for sure make the playoffs and perhaps make it up to the 6th seed if they regain their composure and start playing like the team we saw in Dec/Jan…the Lakers I believe have the easiest schedule after the ASB, even if they can’t beat the Hawks…

]]> By: chris henderson http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/02/17/the-waiting-game/comment-page-1/#comment-2181 chris henderson Fri, 17 Feb 2006 21:46:21 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/02/17/the-waiting-game/#comment-2181 there is one guy I haven't heard mention of that could help us, and that is Jamaal Crawford. I remember early on before the season started, there was some interest in him from the Lakers, while they shopped for a PG. then when I heard some talks again between NY and LA, involving LO and Channing Frye, I had hoped the Crawford name might come up,(it seemed that NY had to add some value to make the trade work financially) but it didn't. I've been watching him and I think he could be a nice player for us, so while I am not saying the Jamaal Crawford is our answer, I am saying that maybe he should've been considered when the LO for Frye talks were alive. it seems like NY would move anybody at this time, they are one team in worse shape that us... there is one guy I haven’t heard mention of that could help us, and that is Jamaal Crawford. I remember early on before the season started, there was some interest in him from the Lakers, while they shopped for a PG.
then when I heard some talks again between NY and LA, involving LO and Channing Frye, I had hoped the Crawford name might come up,(it seemed that NY had to add some value to make the trade work financially) but it didn’t. I’ve been watching him and I think he could be a nice player for us, so while I am not saying the Jamaal Crawford is our answer, I am saying that maybe he should’ve been considered when the LO for Frye talks were alive. it seems like NY would move anybody at this time, they are one team in worse shape that us…

]]> By: Daniel Myers http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/02/17/the-waiting-game/comment-page-1/#comment-2180 Daniel Myers Fri, 17 Feb 2006 19:59:27 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/02/17/the-waiting-game/#comment-2180 I have a feeling about this team. Yes, somethimes i want to kill all of them but you have to take the good with the bad. I strongly believe they will make the playoffs with better than a 7th seed. Once the playoffs start all the bad games we've seen this season dont matter, its a new season. Even if we dont get that far in the playoffs, that experinece will help our younger guys. Next season could be the ONE. The first season is always toughtest for a new player on a new team. Smuch has a huge up side and after this season i think he will become more comfortable with the team and his position. Next season starting line-up looks great: 5) Bynum 4) Mihm 3) Odom 2) Kobe 1) Smush Come on guys dont give up on them just yet!! I have a feeling about this team. Yes, somethimes i want to kill all of them but you have to take the good with the bad. I strongly believe they will make the playoffs with better than a 7th seed. Once the playoffs start all the bad games we’ve seen this season dont matter, its a new season.

Even if we dont get that far in the playoffs, that experinece will help our younger guys. Next season could be the ONE. The first season is always toughtest for a new player on a new team. Smuch has a huge up side and after this season i think he will become more comfortable with the team and his position.

Next season starting line-up looks great:
5) Bynum
4) Mihm
3) Odom
2) Kobe
1) Smush

Come on guys dont give up on them just yet!!

]]> By: Kurt http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/02/17/the-waiting-game/comment-page-1/#comment-2179 Kurt Fri, 17 Feb 2006 19:27:59 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/02/17/the-waiting-game/#comment-2179 I agree with your points, Tony B. Once Mihm returns, I'd love to see less Kwame and more Bynum. And I'd take Delk for a rest of the season trial. I agree with your points, Tony B. Once Mihm returns, I’d love to see less Kwame and more Bynum. And I’d take Delk for a rest of the season trial.

]]> By: Tony B http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/02/17/the-waiting-game/comment-page-1/#comment-2178 Tony B Fri, 17 Feb 2006 19:18:00 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/02/17/the-waiting-game/#comment-2178 It's one thing to be patient, but to be patient with a team with no direction is rough. If Bynum is your future, why not give him more minutes now to gain some experience? If you're really trying to make the playoffs, why not try and make a deal for a quality player that can help you on the short term. Case in point, tony Delk. Everyone says the Lakers need back court help. Well he's burried on the Hawks bench. Imagine that. And his contract is up after this year. Why not grab him, see if he helps (because he sure wouldn't hurt) and if it works out, fine. If not, what did you really loose anyway? It’s one thing to be patient, but to be patient with a team with no direction is rough. If Bynum is your future, why not give him more minutes now to gain some experience? If you’re really trying to make the playoffs, why not try and make a deal for a quality player that can help you on the short term. Case in point, tony Delk. Everyone says the Lakers need back court help. Well he’s burried on the Hawks bench. Imagine that. And his contract is up after this year. Why not grab him, see if he helps (because he sure wouldn’t hurt) and if it works out, fine. If not, what did you really loose anyway?

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