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		<title>By: PKLakersFAN</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/05/03/notes-at-3-am/comment-page-1/#comment-4479</link>
		<dc:creator>PKLakersFAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 17:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before we all forget, let&#039;s give Phil Jackson all the credit he deserves for once again getting in the mind of the opposing team. He completely suckered Raja &#039;The Flop&#039; Bell into that clothesline move. 
Just beautiful, no other coach in the league could do that. Now, lets hope the coaching staff made the necessary adjustments, and that the team is ready to play tonight.
Lakers need to come out tonight with defensive intensity!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before we all forget, let&#8217;s give Phil Jackson all the credit he deserves for once again getting in the mind of the opposing team. He completely suckered Raja &#8216;The Flop&#8217; Bell into that clothesline move.<br />
Just beautiful, no other coach in the league could do that. Now, lets hope the coaching staff made the necessary adjustments, and that the team is ready to play tonight.<br />
Lakers need to come out tonight with defensive intensity!</p>
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		<title>By: Red 5</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/05/03/notes-at-3-am/comment-page-1/#comment-4477</link>
		<dc:creator>Red 5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 17:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is goofÃ©; I&#039;m watching it
like the Zapruder home movie.

As RBell was reaching around KB
seems to be when he actually met the elbow.

At that time Kobe&#039;s arm is parallel, 
blocking out but not thrown.

After Kobe&#039;s arm starts to rise
is when he reacts so it looks like
the two actions are related.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is goofÃ©; I&#8217;m watching it<br />
like the Zapruder home movie.</p>
<p>As RBell was reaching around KB<br />
seems to be when he actually met the elbow.</p>
<p>At that time Kobe&#8217;s arm is parallel,<br />
blocking out but not thrown.</p>
<p>After Kobe&#8217;s arm starts to rise<br />
is when he reacts so it looks like<br />
the two actions are related.</p>
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		<title>By: Goo</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/05/03/notes-at-3-am/comment-page-1/#comment-4476</link>
		<dc:creator>Goo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 16:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My personal own conspiracy theory is that he&#039;s actually Donald Sterling and soon shall start attemping to convert us Laker faithful..

I actually met Donald Sterling once at the first Clippers home game at Staples Center, I was never prouder to be wearing my Lakers hat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My personal own conspiracy theory is that he&#8217;s actually Donald Sterling and soon shall start attemping to convert us Laker faithful..</p>
<p>I actually met Donald Sterling once at the first Clippers home game at Staples Center, I was never prouder to be wearing my Lakers hat.</p>
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		<title>By: John (Vancouver)</title>
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		<dc:creator>John (Vancouver)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 07:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I&#039;ve got a nice clip for all of the &quot;Kobe elbows Bell in the face&quot; fans :)

http://rapidshare.de/files/19564858/Phantom_Elbow_Game_5.wmv.html

Watch the last replay reeeeal closely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I&#8217;ve got a nice clip for all of the &#8220;Kobe elbows Bell in the face&#8221; fans <img src='http://www.forumblueandgold.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://rapidshare.de/files/19564858/Phantom_Elbow_Game_5.wmv.html" rel="nofollow">http://rapidshare.de/files/19564858/Phantom_Elbow_Game_5.wmv.html</a></p>
<p>Watch the last replay reeeeal closely.</p>
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		<title>By: reiko</title>
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		<dc:creator>reiko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 06:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi, guys,
my question is, why is that JohnR guy still here?%!?*&amp;?/??? Why??? 
He must have rediculously lots of time to kill, or no job. Don&#039;t you notice that he just want your attention? I mean how sad is that? He chooses to come here and says only negative things about Lakers no matter what and makes everybody upset.  Wait...I think I know. He likes it here because everybody notices his existance. There is always this type of person in a group. You know, like work places or even home, nobody notice that he&#039;s there, so he has to shout so that others realize he&#039;s there. You know, it&#039;s like his hobby. He enjoys making people upset.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi, guys,<br />
my question is, why is that JohnR guy still here?%!?*&amp;?/??? Why???<br />
He must have rediculously lots of time to kill, or no job. Don&#8217;t you notice that he just want your attention? I mean how sad is that? He chooses to come here and says only negative things about Lakers no matter what and makes everybody upset.  Wait&#8230;I think I know. He likes it here because everybody notices his existance. There is always this type of person in a group. You know, like work places or even home, nobody notice that he&#8217;s there, so he has to shout so that others realize he&#8217;s there. You know, it&#8217;s like his hobby. He enjoys making people upset.</p>
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		<title>By: notreallyimportant</title>
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		<dc:creator>notreallyimportant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 05:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great quote there John (Vancouver). Interestingly Stu Lantz kept commenting on how Cook and Kwame needed to get up close on Nash and force the dribble penetration so the other Lakers could help out.

I&#039;m not sure that there really is an aswer, basically it is pick your poison, but the lakers do need to decide on a strategy, and stick to it until the coach tells them to change it. Either force Nash to jump shoot (he has a ridiculously sweet stroke) or have him penetrate (he is ridiculously good at getting to the rim, or once the defense collapses dishing to the perimeter). Given his recent back pains I am actually leaning towards making him exert more energy, but I am far from an expert on the matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great quote there John (Vancouver). Interestingly Stu Lantz kept commenting on how Cook and Kwame needed to get up close on Nash and force the dribble penetration so the other Lakers could help out.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure that there really is an aswer, basically it is pick your poison, but the lakers do need to decide on a strategy, and stick to it until the coach tells them to change it. Either force Nash to jump shoot (he has a ridiculously sweet stroke) or have him penetrate (he is ridiculously good at getting to the rim, or once the defense collapses dishing to the perimeter). Given his recent back pains I am actually leaning towards making him exert more energy, but I am far from an expert on the matter.</p>
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		<title>By: John (Vancouver)</title>
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		<dc:creator>John (Vancouver)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 04:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys, it&#039;s a pointless circular argument with JohnR.  We know he&#039;s a hater, he&#039;ll always be a hater.  Like Mr. West says &quot;they marry hater bitches and have hater kids.&quot;  Let&#039;s leave JohnR and his &quot;going for the ball&quot; fouls and &quot;everyone loves Kobe&quot; rhetoric for the choir.

This game is a must win for the Lakers.  I&#039;m not sure this young team can go in an win a Game 7 on the road.   We knew that the Suns were going to come back with their best shot and the Lakers took it - we just have to hope that we still aren&#039;t thinking about the cut on our eye now and are looking at giving Nash and company the knockout blow.

Something I wanted to comment on that Kurt didn&#039;t cover.

Nash basically owned our bigs that game.  Out of about 6 times Nash switched and got Kwame or Cook, I saw Cook play him well once (far off the ball, enough room to back up and trap him and force the ball out of his hands.)    Kwame just got beat a few times by Nash badly playing way too close to him.  If it&#039;s up to me, I want Nash taking those jumpers rather than a guarenteed layup.  That&#039;s the biggest thing I saw from last game that really was different on our defensive end.  We shut that down and rebound better and it&#039;s a much closer ballgame.  

When I heard about what Bell did I didn&#039;t think too much of it until I actually saw it.  It&#039;s part of the reason I&#039;m telling you guys to ignore John R.  Anyone who looks at that - as the girl who was over when I was re-watching it - wondered if you were allowed to &quot;tackle&quot; in basketball now.  Pretty astute observation.  That was just ridiculous and doesn&#039;t belong in the game.  Basketball is still a contact sport - with people like Manu flinging their bodies everywhere and people moving so fast, people are bound to bang.  I don&#039;t remember someone trying to do that to Karl Malone though, and you knew every game you were getting the forearm shimmey from him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, it&#8217;s a pointless circular argument with JohnR.  We know he&#8217;s a hater, he&#8217;ll always be a hater.  Like Mr. West says &#8220;they marry hater bitches and have hater kids.&#8221;  Let&#8217;s leave JohnR and his &#8220;going for the ball&#8221; fouls and &#8220;everyone loves Kobe&#8221; rhetoric for the choir.</p>
<p>This game is a must win for the Lakers.  I&#8217;m not sure this young team can go in an win a Game 7 on the road.   We knew that the Suns were going to come back with their best shot and the Lakers took it &#8211; we just have to hope that we still aren&#8217;t thinking about the cut on our eye now and are looking at giving Nash and company the knockout blow.</p>
<p>Something I wanted to comment on that Kurt didn&#8217;t cover.</p>
<p>Nash basically owned our bigs that game.  Out of about 6 times Nash switched and got Kwame or Cook, I saw Cook play him well once (far off the ball, enough room to back up and trap him and force the ball out of his hands.)    Kwame just got beat a few times by Nash badly playing way too close to him.  If it&#8217;s up to me, I want Nash taking those jumpers rather than a guarenteed layup.  That&#8217;s the biggest thing I saw from last game that really was different on our defensive end.  We shut that down and rebound better and it&#8217;s a much closer ballgame.  </p>
<p>When I heard about what Bell did I didn&#8217;t think too much of it until I actually saw it.  It&#8217;s part of the reason I&#8217;m telling you guys to ignore John R.  Anyone who looks at that &#8211; as the girl who was over when I was re-watching it &#8211; wondered if you were allowed to &#8220;tackle&#8221; in basketball now.  Pretty astute observation.  That was just ridiculous and doesn&#8217;t belong in the game.  Basketball is still a contact sport &#8211; with people like Manu flinging their bodies everywhere and people moving so fast, people are bound to bang.  I don&#8217;t remember someone trying to do that to Karl Malone though, and you knew every game you were getting the forearm shimmey from him.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 04:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>raja bell was paid off by the league to make that flagrant foul and get himself suspended for game 6.

hey, i&#039;ve even been embarrassed by a laker fix or two in the past... in either 2001 or 2002 at home against the kings in the playoffs, the calls  were ridiculous.   

this, not so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>raja bell was paid off by the league to make that flagrant foul and get himself suspended for game 6.</p>
<p>hey, i&#8217;ve even been embarrassed by a laker fix or two in the past&#8230; in either 2001 or 2002 at home against the kings in the playoffs, the calls  were ridiculous.   </p>
<p>this, not so much.</p>
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		<title>By: Goo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 03:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boo fucking hoo, are you going to tell me Sam Cassell doesn&#039;t complain, flop, throw elbows or anything like that ever? And i&#039;m sure it was the Clippers noble and upstanding nature that forced them to withdraw their contract offer to Kobe when he was a Free Agent, and had nothing to do with Kobe not wanting to join their shithole of a franchise..

Perhaps Raja Bell needs to get his eyes checked for mistaking Kobe&#039;s head for the ball, maybe if he&#039;s worried about taking elbows he can leave physical defense to the big boys like Bruce Bowen, like my dad always said, if the kitchen is hot you should go away, my dad never really had a good grasp on the intracacies of the english language...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boo fucking hoo, are you going to tell me Sam Cassell doesn&#8217;t complain, flop, throw elbows or anything like that ever? And i&#8217;m sure it was the Clippers noble and upstanding nature that forced them to withdraw their contract offer to Kobe when he was a Free Agent, and had nothing to do with Kobe not wanting to join their shithole of a franchise..</p>
<p>Perhaps Raja Bell needs to get his eyes checked for mistaking Kobe&#8217;s head for the ball, maybe if he&#8217;s worried about taking elbows he can leave physical defense to the big boys like Bruce Bowen, like my dad always said, if the kitchen is hot you should go away, my dad never really had a good grasp on the intracacies of the english language&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 01:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John R:

If your goal is to goad and annoy, mission accomplished, apparently.  If you instead wish to provide passionate but reasonable opposing views, and possibly actually be taken seriously, you do yourself (not to mention us) a disservice; your credibility is utterly destroyed by your comments about the Bell foul:

&quot;Bell reached for the ball HARD, and Kobe decided to try to drive through him anyway creating a violent collision.&quot;

Take off, for one second, you Kobe-hating-tinted glasses and watch the play.  Put on whatever corrective eyewear you might normally wear.  Kobe was a step past Bell when Bell threw out his arm and wrapped it  around Kobe&#039;s neck.  Watch the play.  There is never, at any time, a play for the ball.   I&#039;m all for dissenting views, but come on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John R:</p>
<p>If your goal is to goad and annoy, mission accomplished, apparently.  If you instead wish to provide passionate but reasonable opposing views, and possibly actually be taken seriously, you do yourself (not to mention us) a disservice; your credibility is utterly destroyed by your comments about the Bell foul:</p>
<p>&#8220;Bell reached for the ball HARD, and Kobe decided to try to drive through him anyway creating a violent collision.&#8221;</p>
<p>Take off, for one second, you Kobe-hating-tinted glasses and watch the play.  Put on whatever corrective eyewear you might normally wear.  Kobe was a step past Bell when Bell threw out his arm and wrapped it  around Kobe&#8217;s neck.  Watch the play.  There is never, at any time, a play for the ball.   I&#8217;m all for dissenting views, but come on.</p>
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