Comments on: Bynum = the future? http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/08/07/bynum-the-future/ A Lakers Blog. Thoughts, reflections, and the odd rant on the Los Angeles Lakers and the NBA (even the Clippers). Thu, 09 Feb 2012 06:38:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Chris http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/08/07/bynum-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-378731 Chris Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:26:46 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/08/07/bynum-the-future/#comment-378731 "It helped a lot when he (<a href="http://www.kobebryantlive.com" rel="nofollow">Kobe Bryant</a>) found out he (<a href="http://www.andrewbynum.org" rel="nofollow">Andrew Bynum</a> ) really worked this summer," Coach Phil Jackson said Tuesday. "But I think there's also proof in the pudding. He (Kobe Bryant) saw him come out this preseason and play hard and be in condition to play with the guys instead of being trailing all the time with stamina problems “It helped a lot when he (Kobe Bryant) found out he (Andrew Bynum ) really worked this summer,” Coach Phil Jackson said Tuesday. “But I think there’s also proof in the pudding. He (Kobe Bryant) saw him come out this preseason and play hard and be in condition to play with the guys instead of being trailing all the time with stamina problems

]]> By: Chris http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/08/07/bynum-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-378730 Chris Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:23:56 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/08/07/bynum-the-future/#comment-378730 Andrew Bynum is finally showing his true colors of purple and gold! Andrew Bynum is finally showing his true colors of purple and gold!

]]> By: John (Vancouver) http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/08/07/bynum-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-10596 John (Vancouver) Thu, 10 Aug 2006 07:02:41 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/08/07/bynum-the-future/#comment-10596 I live in Vancouver, Canada. I lived in Baltimore, Maryland before that. I can pretty much say that the vast majority of sports fans, no matter what their teams may do, no matter how many championships their teams win, they will always be negative. The Canucks have had one of the best, most talented teams in hockey for the past 5 years but fans don't appreciate that; they DESTROY goaltenders and rip into the hearts of the star players. Baltimore football had about a 5 year grace period until we won the Super Bowl, and now if we don't shutout the other team every game the season is a disappointment; the Orioles.. well, let's not get started on them. The blame for this goes on the shoulders of the fans and the sports media, whose job it is to make you feel like your team should win every game and if they don't the season is a wash. That's why people like Platzchie, Paige, Bayless, Mariotti, etc. piss me off so much; they get paid to continue this cycle of sports hatred. Fans, however, like to be negative. They like to blame things and take out their anger, lower their expectations because they don't want to feel that hurt and disappointment. Being a sports fan - a true sports fan - is being with a team through everything and remaining positive about your situation. The situations where there is absolutely no hope are few and far in between, and those cities (Hello Hawks fans!) deserve every second to bitch and complain about the way their teams are handled. Being a fan is finding the optimistic points of view about your team and cheering them on, standing by their side through thick and thin - just like a relationship. Sure you can quit on your team and go find a new one, but then other sports fans will see you as someone who jumps around on trends. You can whine and moan about the team you are with, but eventually people will just get tired of listening to you (that is unless all of your friends are that type of whiner). This is why I love FB&G - the majority of the usual posters are intelligent, thoughtful, and above all - POSITIVE. Not homers with the blinders on, but people who love the team they cheer for and want to shed light on the positive aspects of the team. I live in Vancouver, Canada. I lived in Baltimore, Maryland before that. I can pretty much say that the vast majority of sports fans, no matter what their teams may do, no matter how many championships their teams win, they will always be negative. The Canucks have had one of the best, most talented teams in hockey for the past 5 years but fans don’t appreciate that; they DESTROY goaltenders and rip into the hearts of the star players. Baltimore football had about a 5 year grace period until we won the Super Bowl, and now if we don’t shutout the other team every game the season is a disappointment; the Orioles.. well, let’s not get started on them.

The blame for this goes on the shoulders of the fans and the sports media, whose job it is to make you feel like your team should win every game and if they don’t the season is a wash. That’s why people like Platzchie, Paige, Bayless, Mariotti, etc. piss me off so much; they get paid to continue this cycle of sports hatred. Fans, however, like to be negative. They like to blame things and take out their anger, lower their expectations because they don’t want to feel that hurt and disappointment.

Being a sports fan – a true sports fan – is being with a team through everything and remaining positive about your situation. The situations where there is absolutely no hope are few and far in between, and those cities (Hello Hawks fans!) deserve every second to bitch and complain about the way their teams are handled. Being a fan is finding the optimistic points of view about your team and cheering them on, standing by their side through thick and thin – just like a relationship. Sure you can quit on your team and go find a new one, but then other sports fans will see you as someone who jumps around on trends. You can whine and moan about the team you are with, but eventually people will just get tired of listening to you (that is unless all of your friends are that type of whiner).

This is why I love FB&G – the majority of the usual posters are intelligent, thoughtful, and above all – POSITIVE. Not homers with the blinders on, but people who love the team they cheer for and want to shed light on the positive aspects of the team.

]]> By: LakeMan http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/08/07/bynum-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-10562 LakeMan Thu, 10 Aug 2006 02:48:00 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/08/07/bynum-the-future/#comment-10562 Roland, Lazenby it's not about looking at the reality or the clear picture i do infact know this Management has been making bad decisions in the last few years i don't have faith in them at all if the Lakers feel bad about it then let them prove me wrong or in a better way "PROVE US WRONG". I'm a dieHARD Laker fan but i am through hoping for this management to do the right thing. Roland, Lazenby it’s not about looking at the reality or the clear picture i do infact know this Management has been making bad decisions in the last few years i don’t have faith in them at all if the Lakers feel bad about it then let them prove me wrong or in a better way “PROVE US WRONG”.

I’m a dieHARD Laker fan but i am through hoping for this management to do the right thing.

]]> By: Roland Lazenby http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/08/07/bynum-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-10553 Roland Lazenby Thu, 10 Aug 2006 01:42:19 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/08/07/bynum-the-future/#comment-10553 Boy, what the world needs now is love, so I'm all for the civility on these websites. Perhaps the thing I've done a poor job of conveying in my articles in Tex's humility. He criticizes and coaches, but experience has made him oh so aware that all of this personnel stuff is much about art and luck and little about science. Still, he knows that you must call them as you see them. When he said Phil is not a dreamer, that's the ultimate compliment. Basketball, indeed all sports management, is not a business for dreamers. Only realists survive. In my interviews with Jerry West about personnel, he would always tell me, you can watch what they do on the floor. You can document their skills and talents. You can't read their hearts. You can document talent and skill. Greatness is another issue. My goal is preparing the article was to help the fans have a realistic view of the team. I'm not proposing one trade or another. Tex certainly isn't. It is fair to say the Lakers face some tough choices. Throw everything at the here and now, or plan wisely for the future and hope for the best. If you try to do both of those things, you'll likely fail at both. I didn't write the article to attack the Lakers or seed disillusion. Just to report the opinions and the efforts of the Lakers coaches as they try to find a balanced perspective on the upcoming season. Roland Lazenby author of The Show Boy, what the world needs now is love, so I’m all for the civility on these websites. Perhaps the thing I’ve done a poor job of conveying in my articles in Tex’s humility. He criticizes and coaches, but experience has made him oh so aware that all of this personnel stuff is much about art and luck and little about science. Still, he knows that you must call them as you see them.
When he said Phil is not a dreamer, that’s the ultimate compliment. Basketball, indeed all sports management, is not a business for dreamers. Only realists survive.
In my interviews with Jerry West about personnel, he would always tell me, you can watch what they do on the floor. You can document their skills and talents. You can’t read their hearts. You can document talent and skill. Greatness is another issue.
My goal is preparing the article was to help the fans have a realistic view of the team. I’m not proposing one trade or another. Tex certainly isn’t.
It is fair to say the Lakers face some tough choices. Throw everything at the here and now, or plan wisely for the future and hope for the best. If you try to do both of those things, you’ll likely fail at both.
I didn’t write the article to attack the Lakers or seed disillusion. Just to report the opinions and the efforts of the Lakers coaches as they try to find a balanced perspective on the upcoming season.

Roland Lazenby
author of The Show

]]> By: Kurt http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/08/07/bynum-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-10543 Kurt Thu, 10 Aug 2006 00:17:46 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/08/07/bynum-the-future/#comment-10543 I'm happy for Shaq that he has matured enough to realize he cannot carry a team anymore and must defer to the better player. If he had done that in LA rather than demanding the offense and attention run through him he might still be winning titles here (same with Payton). I’m happy for Shaq that he has matured enough to realize he cannot carry a team anymore and must defer to the better player. If he had done that in LA rather than demanding the offense and attention run through him he might still be winning titles here (same with Payton).

]]> By: LakeMan http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/08/07/bynum-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-10520 LakeMan Wed, 09 Aug 2006 21:46:11 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/08/07/bynum-the-future/#comment-10520 I can't wait until The Diesel Shaq gets his 6-7th ring while Kobe still has his 3 rings with Shaq-less. you know why? because i know this Organization doesn't have what it takes... even Shaq quoted saying Buss doesn't give a damn about winning hes RIGHT ON.. Shaq is revailing what this crappy Organization really is right now enjoy the mediocre years Kobe cause sadly thats what you're facing in the next few years. I can’t wait until The Diesel Shaq gets his 6-7th ring while Kobe still has his 3 rings with Shaq-less. you know why? because i know this Organization doesn’t have what it takes… even Shaq quoted saying Buss doesn’t give a damn about winning hes RIGHT ON.. Shaq is revailing what this crappy Organization really is right now enjoy the mediocre years Kobe cause sadly thats what you’re facing in the next few years.

]]> By: Kurt http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/08/07/bynum-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-10490 Kurt Wed, 09 Aug 2006 17:55:46 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/08/07/bynum-the-future/#comment-10490 Amen Rob. Amen Rob.

]]> By: Rob http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/08/07/bynum-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-10486 Rob Wed, 09 Aug 2006 17:39:09 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/08/07/bynum-the-future/#comment-10486 I'm not calling for people to be artificially positive. Many people have made critical comments here. I take no issue as long as they are respectful in tone and well written. And that's not respectful to the Lakers, that's respectful to the readers of this site. Objectivity, truth and civility would be me preferred currency. I’m not calling for people to be artificially positive. Many people have made critical comments here. I take no issue as long as they are respectful in tone and well written. And that’s not respectful to the Lakers, that’s respectful to the readers of this site.

Objectivity, truth and civility would be me preferred currency.

]]> By: John R http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/08/07/bynum-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-10483 John R Wed, 09 Aug 2006 17:26:18 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/08/07/bynum-the-future/#comment-10483 Yeah, don't question Kupchak, whatever you do. =) And whats with the calls for artificial positivity and loyalty? Aren't objectivity and truth the preferred currency? Or does that start to fade as we enter the fifth and final year of the Sports Guys' 5 year rule? Did the Lakers complete that trade for Garnett yet? Yeah, don’t question Kupchak, whatever you do. =)

And whats with the calls for artificial positivity and loyalty? Aren’t objectivity and truth the preferred currency? Or does that start to fade as we enter the fifth and final year of the Sports Guys’ 5 year rule?

Did the Lakers complete that trade for Garnett yet?

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