Comments on: Pacific Roundtable http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/10/26/pacific-roundtable-2/ A Lakers Blog. Thoughts, reflections, and the odd rant on the Los Angeles Lakers and the NBA (even the Clippers). Thu, 09 Feb 2012 09:18:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: John R. http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/10/26/pacific-roundtable-2/comment-page-1/#comment-22038 John R. Fri, 27 Oct 2006 21:02:47 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/10/26/pacific-roundtable-2/#comment-22038 Invent me? Impossible. The twisted sort of imagination that endeavor would require would leave the capable without the will or ability to function in civilized society. That sort of person would be committed to the highest-security mental health facilities from a very young age with No Hope for rehabilitation or release. They should not even be taught the skills necessary to read, let alone put their monstrosities in writing for fear of exposing the world to the unspeakable horror that is their psyche. That individual needs to be kept locked in Isolation without a method to communicate to even the strongest-willed psychologists, psychiatrists, physicians, researchers criminologists, and/or profiliers that the medical or forensic worlds have to offer all in the name of protecting Humanity and the Children. Invent me? Impossible. The twisted sort of imagination that endeavor would require would leave the capable without the will or ability to function in civilized society. That sort of person would be committed to the highest-security mental health facilities from a very young age with No Hope for rehabilitation or release. They should not even be taught the skills necessary to read, let alone put their monstrosities in writing for fear of exposing the world to the unspeakable horror that is their psyche. That individual needs to be kept locked in Isolation without a method to communicate to even the strongest-willed psychologists, psychiatrists, physicians, researchers criminologists, and/or profiliers that the medical or forensic worlds have to offer all in the name of protecting Humanity and the Children.

]]> By: Kurt http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/10/26/pacific-roundtable-2/comment-page-1/#comment-21989 Kurt Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:48:34 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/10/26/pacific-roundtable-2/#comment-21989 I promise I am not John R., but I think if he didn't exist I would have had to invent him. I promise I am not John R., but I think if he didn’t exist I would have had to invent him.

]]> By: Rob http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/10/26/pacific-roundtable-2/comment-page-1/#comment-21984 Rob Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:36:57 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/10/26/pacific-roundtable-2/#comment-21984 I just saw your posting times, so I have to ask. Kurt, are you secretly posting as your alter ego "John R". And Bynum looked pretty sweet for preseason. Did you see him make Nene look silly in the first half? I know, I know, it's only Nene. I just saw your posting times, so I have to ask. Kurt, are you secretly posting as your alter ego “John R”.

And Bynum looked pretty sweet for preseason. Did you see him make Nene look silly in the first half? I know, I know, it’s only Nene.

]]> By: Kurt http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/10/26/pacific-roundtable-2/comment-page-1/#comment-21852 Kurt Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:56:56 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/10/26/pacific-roundtable-2/#comment-21852 Man, I miss the Reno Room. Man, I miss the Reno Room.

]]> By: John R http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/10/26/pacific-roundtable-2/comment-page-1/#comment-21851 John R Fri, 27 Oct 2006 06:53:21 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/10/26/pacific-roundtable-2/#comment-21851 Your premise may be sound but your conclusion is not. First and foremost, will the Lakers continue with the triangle when PJ leaves? And believe he is leaving soon. If not, why build towards that? If so, no other coach has been successful with the offense so why bother? Once he leaves, what will they have built? It wreaks of desperation. Second, the Rudy T half-season wasn't a failure and last season wasn't progress. Tomjanovich's win percentage in his time at the helm (.558) extrapolates almost exactly to the Lakers' number of wins last year (.558 * 82 = 45.756). They stagnated year over year; in fact, maybe they got half a game worse. Its just that the team didn't care once they lost their head coach. Tonight's game was good news for Lakers' fans though, right? I caught the first quarter on the radio on the way home from work and after putting up 40 they must have really blown out those Nuggets. I didn't see the rest because I hit up the Reno Room for drinks and they had the World Series on. Congrats on a nice preseason win. Your premise may be sound but your conclusion is not.

First and foremost, will the Lakers continue with the triangle when PJ leaves? And believe he is leaving soon. If not, why build towards that? If so, no other coach has been successful with the offense so why bother? Once he leaves, what will they have built? It wreaks of desperation.

Second, the Rudy T half-season wasn’t a failure and last season wasn’t progress. Tomjanovich’s win percentage in his time at the helm (.558) extrapolates almost exactly to the Lakers’ number of wins last year (.558 * 82 = 45.756). They stagnated year over year; in fact, maybe they got half a game worse. Its just that the team didn’t care once they lost their head coach.

Tonight’s game was good news for Lakers’ fans though, right? I caught the first quarter on the radio on the way home from work and after putting up 40 they must have really blown out those Nuggets. I didn’t see the rest because I hit up the Reno Room for drinks and they had the World Series on. Congrats on a nice preseason win.

]]> By: anonymous http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/10/26/pacific-roundtable-2/comment-page-1/#comment-21779 anonymous Fri, 27 Oct 2006 00:04:22 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/10/26/pacific-roundtable-2/#comment-21779 The very last line of this post strikes me as the most important. I think a lot of teams tend to just rush things and give up before their game plan ever gets into motion. I remember before the Suns got Nash they were still basically prepping the same system by getting Marion and Amare (though it was less effective due to injury, and Stephon Marbury). Still, they kept at it and got quick, sharp-shooting guys like Joe Johnson, Q-Rich, Barbosa, etc. That was a game plan. Compare that to other teams like the Hawks or 76ers. No idea what is going on there. One team has all wing players and no PG/Center, the other had a solid core of developing players one year that were gaining a personality. Now, they have no team identity and a bunch of guys no one will trade for. This is why I think the Lakers will have a good amount of success this season (assuming they every get off the IR list). That first year with Rudy T. following the Shaq trade was chaos. We had done poorly in acquiring FA talent and our drafted players were not built for that system. However, this is the 2nd year that we've committed to developing a good, Triangle-based team. It mirrors the successful Triangle teams of the past in that we're trying to build a core of solid role-players and a couple of good offensive options (Kobe, hopefully Lamar from last Spring, and the developing post offense of Bynum). If all goes well, I think this group will really become something special in the years to come, regardless of where we place this year in the division or conference. We've got a plan, and we're sticking with it. Hopefully the top brass have the patience to stick with it and see how far it goes. The very last line of this post strikes me as the most important. I think a lot of teams tend to just rush things and give up before their game plan ever gets into motion. I remember before the Suns got Nash they were still basically prepping the same system by getting Marion and Amare (though it was less effective due to injury, and Stephon Marbury). Still, they kept at it and got quick, sharp-shooting guys like Joe Johnson, Q-Rich, Barbosa, etc. That was a game plan. Compare that to other teams like the Hawks or 76ers. No idea what is going on there. One team has all wing players and no PG/Center, the other had a solid core of developing players one year that were gaining a personality. Now, they have no team identity and a bunch of guys no one will trade for.

This is why I think the Lakers will have a good amount of success this season (assuming they every get off the IR list). That first year with Rudy T. following the Shaq trade was chaos. We had done poorly in acquiring FA talent and our drafted players were not built for that system. However, this is the 2nd year that we’ve committed to developing a good, Triangle-based team. It mirrors the successful Triangle teams of the past in that we’re trying to build a core of solid role-players and a couple of good offensive options (Kobe, hopefully Lamar from last Spring, and the developing post offense of Bynum). If all goes well, I think this group will really become something special in the years to come, regardless of where we place this year in the division or conference. We’ve got a plan, and we’re sticking with it. Hopefully the top brass have the patience to stick with it and see how far it goes.

]]> By: ian http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/10/26/pacific-roundtable-2/comment-page-1/#comment-21768 ian Thu, 26 Oct 2006 23:29:14 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2006/10/26/pacific-roundtable-2/#comment-21768 Way to get onto ESPN.com Kurt. Congrats. I think you should have set up this discussion so that each blogger only talked about the other teams. Afterall we can go to each individual bloggers site to see their take on the home team. I mean is it a surprise that each of you sees the upside in your own team? Way to get onto ESPN.com Kurt. Congrats.

I think you should have set up this discussion so that each blogger only talked about the other teams. Afterall we can go to each individual bloggers site to see their take on the home team. I mean is it a surprise that each of you sees the upside in your own team?

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