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		<title>By: DrRayEye</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/02/22/notes-on-a-defensive-collapse/comment-page-1/#comment-50833</link>
		<dc:creator>DrRayEye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 22:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>29  I thought we agreed that Smush was the obvious symptom, not the cause.  None of it is really Smush&#039;s fault.  In happier earlier preseason times, Smush played extremely well in tandem with Farmar.  He&#039;s just not a point guard or a starting player.  He may not even be able to make most teams.  After all, until the Lakers, the Smusher never lasted a season with anyone else.  Why is he getting almost as many minutes as Kobe or Lamar?  If he&#039;s that good, pay him what he&#039;s worth.  If he&#039;s not, what&#039;s going on?

One can evaluate one&#039;s potential for defense as an individual only up to a point.  Everyone critiqued 
Chris Webber as a defensive liability, but he&#039;s doing well in the Piston team concept.  If the Lakers were to play and reward true team defense, many presumed individual infermities would disappear through team defense strategies.  Teaming and minutes played would change.

Even though marred by Smush&#039;s play, the Lakers played as a unit earlier in the season.  A few times they even played lockdown defense.  Whatever it was they were doing, they were winning.  if it ain&#039;t broke--don&#039;t fix it.

Right now, it&#039;s broke--and the way to start fixing it is to do something different with the Smusher.  That leads to tinkering with the playing times/teaming of the remaining healthy players.  We need to somehow rediscover the magic of chemistry that we had at the beginning of the season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>29  I thought we agreed that Smush was the obvious symptom, not the cause.  None of it is really Smush&#8217;s fault.  In happier earlier preseason times, Smush played extremely well in tandem with Farmar.  He&#8217;s just not a point guard or a starting player.  He may not even be able to make most teams.  After all, until the Lakers, the Smusher never lasted a season with anyone else.  Why is he getting almost as many minutes as Kobe or Lamar?  If he&#8217;s that good, pay him what he&#8217;s worth.  If he&#8217;s not, what&#8217;s going on?</p>
<p>One can evaluate one&#8217;s potential for defense as an individual only up to a point.  Everyone critiqued<br />
Chris Webber as a defensive liability, but he&#8217;s doing well in the Piston team concept.  If the Lakers were to play and reward true team defense, many presumed individual infermities would disappear through team defense strategies.  Teaming and minutes played would change.</p>
<p>Even though marred by Smush&#8217;s play, the Lakers played as a unit earlier in the season.  A few times they even played lockdown defense.  Whatever it was they were doing, they were winning.  if it ain&#8217;t broke&#8211;don&#8217;t fix it.</p>
<p>Right now, it&#8217;s broke&#8211;and the way to start fixing it is to do something different with the Smusher.  That leads to tinkering with the playing times/teaming of the remaining healthy players.  We need to somehow rediscover the magic of chemistry that we had at the beginning of the season.</p>
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		<title>By: skigi</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/02/22/notes-on-a-defensive-collapse/comment-page-1/#comment-50782</link>
		<dc:creator>skigi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 19:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good call Kwame. #24 and #7 have been just as bad on defense as anybody on the team. Its not just Smush&#039;s fault.  But lets just not panic too much right now. I know things are really ugly right now but they can&#039;t get any worse than this.  We&#039;re only a 5-6 game winning streak away from being a &quot;contender&quot; again in the view of all the reporters and fans.  True Laker fans remain strong through the bad times as well as the good. 

And as soon as everybody gets over the dissapointment of not getting Kidd... we will realize that it was a trade better left undone. Kidd would lock us up financially for the next two years and his production would be decreasing by the day. We&#039;re much better off stickin to the gameplan this season and going after KG in the summer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good call Kwame. #24 and #7 have been just as bad on defense as anybody on the team. Its not just Smush&#8217;s fault.  But lets just not panic too much right now. I know things are really ugly right now but they can&#8217;t get any worse than this.  We&#8217;re only a 5-6 game winning streak away from being a &#8220;contender&#8221; again in the view of all the reporters and fans.  True Laker fans remain strong through the bad times as well as the good. </p>
<p>And as soon as everybody gets over the dissapointment of not getting Kidd&#8230; we will realize that it was a trade better left undone. Kidd would lock us up financially for the next two years and his production would be decreasing by the day. We&#8217;re much better off stickin to the gameplan this season and going after KG in the summer</p>
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		<title>By: kwame a.</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/02/22/notes-on-a-defensive-collapse/comment-page-1/#comment-50701</link>
		<dc:creator>kwame a.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t wanna burst the bubble of Smush-bashing, but the team has about 10 major problems, pg defense just being one of them. Our biggest problem is that we dont score from the post at all on offense, no easy baskets, no rotations on defense, injuries, confusing rotations, please, let&#039;s be honest and stop trying to scapegoat one player, one player doesnt make you lose 12 of 16, that&#039;s a team effort. Lastly, there is one player vying with Smush and Oook for worst defender on the team, and his number is 24, so let&#039;s call a spade a spade if we&#039;re going to go that route</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t wanna burst the bubble of Smush-bashing, but the team has about 10 major problems, pg defense just being one of them. Our biggest problem is that we dont score from the post at all on offense, no easy baskets, no rotations on defense, injuries, confusing rotations, please, let&#8217;s be honest and stop trying to scapegoat one player, one player doesnt make you lose 12 of 16, that&#8217;s a team effort. Lastly, there is one player vying with Smush and Oook for worst defender on the team, and his number is 24, so let&#8217;s call a spade a spade if we&#8217;re going to go that route</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 15:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smush always get beat, putting the bigs in foul trouble. Jackson doesn&#039;t like zones. However, let&#039;s consider. The quickest point guards in the league aren&#039;t necessarily the best spot up shooters, and the shooters aren&#039;t so quick that Smush couldn&#039;t learn to move his feet and stay in front of them. Solution, play zone against teams with quick point guards and dare them to shoot; play man against the teams with shooting point guards. With the rare guy that has the shot and the speed, put Smush in his Smushcalade and have him drive in LA traffic during the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smush always get beat, putting the bigs in foul trouble. Jackson doesn&#8217;t like zones. However, let&#8217;s consider. The quickest point guards in the league aren&#8217;t necessarily the best spot up shooters, and the shooters aren&#8217;t so quick that Smush couldn&#8217;t learn to move his feet and stay in front of them. Solution, play zone against teams with quick point guards and dare them to shoot; play man against the teams with shooting point guards. With the rare guy that has the shot and the speed, put Smush in his Smushcalade and have him drive in LA traffic during the game.</p>
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		<title>By: DrRayEye</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrRayEye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Lakers have managed to avoid Chris Webber and Jason Kidd in favor of &quot;love the ones you&#039;re with.&quot;  

That means three promising kids (Turiaff, Bynum, and Farmar), four big cripples (Brown, Mihm, Walton, and Radman), two rehabs (Odom and Kobe), and some role players.  

The coaches seemingly are managing this ragtag crew as if the cripples were momentarily gone, distorting rotations that had not ever been fully established in the best of times.  

Bynum has been getting serious playing time because the coaches have little choice; Turiaff has been getting only grudging playing time even though the coaches have little choice.  Farmar has not been even that lucky.

Despite having his moments, Sasha has fared no better than Jordan,   McKie and Anderson seem to have gotten lost altogether.

Though far from a toughened veteran, the Smusher has been getting nearly as much PT as Kobe or Lamar.  After all, Smush is the only starter that has been healthy all season.  Cookie no longer has to throw his jersey at Phil to get his attention.  Evans has gotten some extended backup time--but still far less than the Smusher.  

If the ragtag Lakers we will have for the remainder of the season are to resemble themselves from earlier healthier times (rather than the Celtics they are about to face), those minutes need some serious tweaking.  

Depending on the Smusher to stabilize the starters and close out games is a move of Disneyesque proportions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Lakers have managed to avoid Chris Webber and Jason Kidd in favor of &#8220;love the ones you&#8217;re with.&#8221;  </p>
<p>That means three promising kids (Turiaff, Bynum, and Farmar), four big cripples (Brown, Mihm, Walton, and Radman), two rehabs (Odom and Kobe), and some role players.  </p>
<p>The coaches seemingly are managing this ragtag crew as if the cripples were momentarily gone, distorting rotations that had not ever been fully established in the best of times.  </p>
<p>Bynum has been getting serious playing time because the coaches have little choice; Turiaff has been getting only grudging playing time even though the coaches have little choice.  Farmar has not been even that lucky.</p>
<p>Despite having his moments, Sasha has fared no better than Jordan,   McKie and Anderson seem to have gotten lost altogether.</p>
<p>Though far from a toughened veteran, the Smusher has been getting nearly as much PT as Kobe or Lamar.  After all, Smush is the only starter that has been healthy all season.  Cookie no longer has to throw his jersey at Phil to get his attention.  Evans has gotten some extended backup time&#8211;but still far less than the Smusher.  </p>
<p>If the ragtag Lakers we will have for the remainder of the season are to resemble themselves from earlier healthier times (rather than the Celtics they are about to face), those minutes need some serious tweaking.  </p>
<p>Depending on the Smusher to stabilize the starters and close out games is a move of Disneyesque proportions.</p>
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		<title>By: kwame a.</title>
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		<dc:creator>kwame a.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 07:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patience may  be smart but it sure does suck when your teams on a 6 game losing streak, your team is depending on average nba sf luke walton and sometimes average nba c kwame brown to magically resuce a team that has not once this season exhibited the ability to stop a deadman. Add that to the fact that no team wins with all the youth we have, and the fact that any team trying to win makes deals to add talent, savvy, or both, at the deadline and you see how this whole patience thing actually is not too promising to fans who feel kobe needs to win now, the fans paying all that money deserve to see a contending team, not a counterfit, overachieving lot, they deserve a team that blends the young talent this team possesss with the amazing talents of kobe and phil. if that means trading odom, so what, if that means trading bynum, so what, nobody on this team is untouchable outside kobe, whatever young players get left are the ones we go with. However that is now all for the offseason, as far as the rest of this season, well, looks like we can do like ed norton, pose as an illusionist and get knocked out early in the playoffs, woo hoo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patience may  be smart but it sure does suck when your teams on a 6 game losing streak, your team is depending on average nba sf luke walton and sometimes average nba c kwame brown to magically resuce a team that has not once this season exhibited the ability to stop a deadman. Add that to the fact that no team wins with all the youth we have, and the fact that any team trying to win makes deals to add talent, savvy, or both, at the deadline and you see how this whole patience thing actually is not too promising to fans who feel kobe needs to win now, the fans paying all that money deserve to see a contending team, not a counterfit, overachieving lot, they deserve a team that blends the young talent this team possesss with the amazing talents of kobe and phil. if that means trading odom, so what, if that means trading bynum, so what, nobody on this team is untouchable outside kobe, whatever young players get left are the ones we go with. However that is now all for the offseason, as far as the rest of this season, well, looks like we can do like ed norton, pose as an illusionist and get knocked out early in the playoffs, woo hoo!</p>
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		<title>By: DY</title>
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		<dc:creator>DY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 04:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For better of for worse, Bynum now has validation that the Lakers probably rejected JKidd for him.  That must be a huge motivational lift for him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For better of for worse, Bynum now has validation that the Lakers probably rejected JKidd for him.  That must be a huge motivational lift for him.</p>
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		<title>By: JONESONTHENBA</title>
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		<dc:creator>JONESONTHENBA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 03:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bibby has an option to opt out but has stated that he won&#039;t because he is not going to command the type of money he&#039;s making in the last two years of his deal ($13 mil per)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bibby has an option to opt out but has stated that he won&#8217;t because he is not going to command the type of money he&#8217;s making in the last two years of his deal ($13 mil per)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Goo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 02:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bibby, Billups, Mo Williams are unrestricted..Pavlovic, Pietrus, Jasikevicus are restricted FA&#039;s

Trust me, you don&#039;t want to know anyone beyond that..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bibby, Billups, Mo Williams are unrestricted..Pavlovic, Pietrus, Jasikevicus are restricted FA&#8217;s</p>
<p>Trust me, you don&#8217;t want to know anyone beyond that..</p>
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		<title>By: DY</title>
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		<dc:creator>DY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 01:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kudos to the Lakers for patience.  The PLAN is in place...and hopefully, there will be some point guard help this somewhere available via the mid exception?

BTW, what point guards are out there in free agency, real options? Steve Blake?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos to the Lakers for patience.  The PLAN is in place&#8230;and hopefully, there will be some point guard help this somewhere available via the mid exception?</p>
<p>BTW, what point guards are out there in free agency, real options? Steve Blake?</p>
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