Comments on: Preview & Chat: The Phoenix Suns http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/08/preview-chat-the-phoenix-suns-3/ A Lakers Blog. Thoughts, reflections, and the odd rant on the Los Angeles Lakers and the NBA (even the Clippers). Thu, 09 Feb 2012 09:18:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: matt http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/08/preview-chat-the-phoenix-suns-3/comment-page-1/#comment-82920 matt Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:45:02 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/08/preview-chat-the-phoenix-suns-3/#comment-82920 Kupchak is a good GM, Warren. Not the best in the NBA, but not bad by any means. McHale is one of the worst GMs in the league. (Sam Cassell AND a lottery pick for Marko Jaric?!!) Getting McHale as the GM would probably be the worst move the team could make. (Well, other than getting Isaiah as the GM.) Plus as a former Celtic McHale hates the Lakers. He would probably try to sabotage the team intentionally. I like Gasol, but he's a defensive liability. I wouldn't give up Odom to get him, or Kwame. Bynum ... maybe; not sure. Kupchak is a good GM, Warren. Not the best in the NBA, but not bad by any means. McHale is one of the worst GMs in the league. (Sam Cassell AND a lottery pick for Marko Jaric?!!) Getting McHale as the GM would probably be the worst move the team could make. (Well, other than getting Isaiah as the GM.) Plus as a former Celtic McHale hates the Lakers. He would probably try to sabotage the team intentionally.

I like Gasol, but he’s a defensive liability. I wouldn’t give up Odom to get him, or Kwame. Bynum … maybe; not sure.

]]> By: warren (philippines) http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/08/preview-chat-the-phoenix-suns-3/comment-page-1/#comment-82542 warren (philippines) Tue, 10 Apr 2007 05:23:29 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/08/preview-chat-the-phoenix-suns-3/#comment-82542 Those sound like video game trades, Warren - and even those get turned down more and more in this modern-day business world. It would probably take Bynum and Odom to get Garnett, minimum. Check this, I have a franchise going with the Lake show on NBA 2K7 and I am in Lamar’s last year of his contract. I have to trade him or let him walk - I don’t have enough cash to resign the man. On a video game I can’t even afford to stockpile a dynasty around Kobe! We would have to be very lucky for a star player to take less $$$ to play alongside our current team. These are all pipe dreams that we share. In an ideal world, of course we can get a bunch of great talent around Kobe to start contending every year. But I don’t see it happening this year or next with the Lakers. I hope I am wrong - and I urge you to remind me all the way from the philippines if I am. I'm with you man. How bout a Kevin McHale for Mitch Kupchak trade then? anyway, i'm updating my trade "speculation" as you might consider : get Pau Gasol instead. He can be obtained if Andrew Bynum is in the deal and his salary is much easier to match. the mid-level exception would be the determining factor on how good they can be next year. get Mo Williams. But i guess he'd want more money than just that. As for this year, Kobe will make history in the playoffs but it simply wont be enough to win. Those sound like video game trades, Warren – and even those get turned down more and more in this modern-day business world. It would probably take Bynum and Odom to get Garnett, minimum.

Check this, I have a franchise going with the Lake show on NBA 2K7 and I am in Lamar’s last year of his contract. I have to trade him or let him walk – I don’t have enough cash to resign the man. On a video game I can’t even afford to stockpile a dynasty around Kobe!

We would have to be very lucky for a star player to take less $$$ to play alongside our current team.

These are all pipe dreams that we share. In an ideal world, of course we can get a bunch of great talent around Kobe to start contending every year. But I don’t see it happening this year or next with the Lakers. I hope I am wrong – and I urge you to remind me all the way from the philippines if I am.

I’m with you man. How bout a Kevin McHale for Mitch Kupchak trade then?

anyway, i’m updating my trade “speculation” as you might consider :

get Pau Gasol instead. He can be obtained if Andrew Bynum is in the deal and his salary is much easier to match.

the mid-level exception would be the determining factor on how good they can be next year. get Mo Williams. But i guess he’d want more money than just that.

As for this year, Kobe will make history in the playoffs but it simply wont be enough to win.

]]> By: Cary D http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/08/preview-chat-the-phoenix-suns-3/comment-page-1/#comment-82280 Cary D Mon, 09 Apr 2007 20:02:46 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/08/preview-chat-the-phoenix-suns-3/#comment-82280 Adam - I understand your opinion and agree Lamar's length and athleticism is crucial to our team defense, but i respectfully have to disagree with you. Listen to Tex Winter - he has said numerous times that Luke is our best team defender (this has been posted on this forum before). I'll take Tex's word anyday of the week. Luke has a great future starting for this team. Kwame a - so true on the fast break point. Those seem small, but PHX always seems to execute their fast breaks flawlessly. I think that was the difference in the game. We played them FANTASTIC in the 3rd quarter up until that point. Them we blew a few easy ones that they converted. Adam – I understand your opinion and agree Lamar’s length and athleticism is crucial to our team defense, but i respectfully have to disagree with you. Listen to Tex Winter – he has said numerous times that Luke is our best team defender (this has been posted on this forum before). I’ll take Tex’s word anyday of the week. Luke has a great future starting for this team.

Kwame a – so true on the fast break point. Those seem small, but PHX always seems to execute their fast breaks flawlessly. I think that was the difference in the game. We played them FANTASTIC in the 3rd quarter up until that point. Them we blew a few easy ones that they converted.

]]> By: Cary D http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/08/preview-chat-the-phoenix-suns-3/comment-page-1/#comment-82270 Cary D Mon, 09 Apr 2007 19:42:36 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/08/preview-chat-the-phoenix-suns-3/#comment-82270 Those sound like video game trades, Warren - and even those get turned down more and more in this modern-day business world. It would probably take Bynum and Odom to get Garnett, minimum. Check this, I have a franchise going with the Lake show on NBA 2K7 and I am in Lamar's last year of his contract. I have to trade him or let him walk - I don't have enough cash to resign the man. On a video game I can't even afford to stockpile a dynasty around Kobe! We would have to be very lucky for a star player to take less $$$ to play alongside our current team. These are all pipe dreams that we share. In an ideal world, of course we can get a bunch of great talent around Kobe to start contending every year. But I don't see it happening this year or next with the Lakers. I hope I am wrong - and I urge you to remind me all the way from the philippines if I am. Those sound like video game trades, Warren – and even those get turned down more and more in this modern-day business world. It would probably take Bynum and Odom to get Garnett, minimum.

Check this, I have a franchise going with the Lake show on NBA 2K7 and I am in Lamar’s last year of his contract. I have to trade him or let him walk – I don’t have enough cash to resign the man. On a video game I can’t even afford to stockpile a dynasty around Kobe!

We would have to be very lucky for a star player to take less $$$ to play alongside our current team.

These are all pipe dreams that we share. In an ideal world, of course we can get a bunch of great talent around Kobe to start contending every year. But I don’t see it happening this year or next with the Lakers. I hope I am wrong – and I urge you to remind me all the way from the philippines if I am.

]]> By: adam kiley http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/08/preview-chat-the-phoenix-suns-3/comment-page-1/#comment-82269 adam kiley Mon, 09 Apr 2007 19:38:31 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/08/preview-chat-the-phoenix-suns-3/#comment-82269 Luke is our best option now at sf, but in the future i'd like to see him utilized off the bench. At least that's how i feel, and at this point our best defender team or one on one is Lamar Odom. He picks up screens, he doubles well, and his man to man lately has been stellar I miss luke making that extra pass, he's really been forcing it lately, espcially yesterday 3-9 shooting. Less shot luke, and more assists. Luke is our best option now at sf, but in the future i’d like to see him utilized off the bench. At least that’s how i feel, and at this point our best defender team or one on one is Lamar Odom. He picks up screens, he doubles well, and his man to man lately has been stellar
I miss luke making that extra pass, he’s really been forcing it lately, espcially yesterday 3-9 shooting. Less shot luke, and more assists.

]]> By: matt http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/08/preview-chat-the-phoenix-suns-3/comment-page-1/#comment-82239 matt Mon, 09 Apr 2007 19:09:23 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/08/preview-chat-the-phoenix-suns-3/#comment-82239 Warren, your trade speculations aren't very realistic. Yeah, Vlade/Cook/Mihm/Sasha/Bynum for KG would be a fantastic deal for the Lakers, they would do that deal in a heartbeat. And the salaries might work under the cap, but there's NO WAY the T-Wolves would do that deal. All they would be getting back for Garnett is a prospect, two soft bigs, an injured backup center and a shooting guard who doesn't shoot well. The Bulls, for one, would certainly be happy to offer the Wolves a much better deal than that. So would the Celtics, and many other teams. The Lakers will have to put together a much better offer than that to get a deal done. Also, the $80 million deal for Bunum you refer to was NOT an offer from the Lakers. It must have been speculation by someone on the internet. As Kurt said, the team is not able to offer Bynum an extension until July '08 (after the third year of his rookie deal). Warren, your trade speculations aren’t very realistic. Yeah, Vlade/Cook/Mihm/Sasha/Bynum for KG would be a fantastic deal for the Lakers, they would do that deal in a heartbeat. And the salaries might work under the cap, but there’s NO WAY the T-Wolves would do that deal.

All they would be getting back for Garnett is a prospect, two soft bigs, an injured backup center and a shooting guard who doesn’t shoot well.

The Bulls, for one, would certainly be happy to offer the Wolves a much better deal than that. So would the Celtics, and many other teams. The Lakers will have to put together a much better offer than that to get a deal done.

Also, the $80 million deal for Bunum you refer to was NOT an offer from the Lakers. It must have been speculation by someone on the internet. As Kurt said, the team is not able to offer Bynum an extension until July ’08 (after the third year of his rookie deal).

]]> By: kwame a. http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/08/preview-chat-the-phoenix-suns-3/comment-page-1/#comment-82215 kwame a. Mon, 09 Apr 2007 18:10:37 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/08/preview-chat-the-phoenix-suns-3/#comment-82215 We aren't good at fastbreaks, we had three we messed up on last nite alone, one with Kobe in the middle, one with Lamar, one with Smush, all plays most teams get an easy dunk out of. We had a missed shot, a turnover and a turnover for a dunk on the other end. Little things or big things, take your pick right now We aren’t good at fastbreaks, we had three we messed up on last nite alone, one with Kobe in the middle, one with Lamar, one with Smush, all plays most teams get an easy dunk out of. We had a missed shot, a turnover and a turnover for a dunk on the other end. Little things or big things, take your pick right now

]]> By: Red 5 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/08/preview-chat-the-phoenix-suns-3/comment-page-1/#comment-82214 Red 5 Mon, 09 Apr 2007 18:05:57 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/08/preview-chat-the-phoenix-suns-3/#comment-82214 A side note for it is Monday-- Is it just me, or does Raja Bell look very much like der animated Wienerschnitzel? - 5 - A side note for it is Monday–

Is it just me,
or does Raja Bell look very much like
der animated Wienerschnitzel?

- 5 -

]]> By: JONESONTHENBA http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/08/preview-chat-the-phoenix-suns-3/comment-page-1/#comment-82212 JONESONTHENBA Mon, 09 Apr 2007 17:52:19 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/08/preview-chat-the-phoenix-suns-3/#comment-82212 Cary I feel the same about Raja, and said as much yesterday on the fanhouse: http://nba.aolsportsblog.com/2007/04/08/why-i-respect-raja-bell Cary I feel the same about Raja, and said as much yesterday on the fanhouse:

http://nba.aolsportsblog.com/2007/04/08/why-i-respect-raja-bell

]]> By: Cary D http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/08/preview-chat-the-phoenix-suns-3/comment-page-1/#comment-82206 Cary D Mon, 09 Apr 2007 17:04:06 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/08/preview-chat-the-phoenix-suns-3/#comment-82206 I think the play that killed us was the fast break with Lamar and Kobe that was stolen by Raja Bell. It was quickly converted into a bucket and we never scratched the surface after that. We killed ourselves many other ways in that game, but that was a momentum killer at the worst possible time. As much as Raja Bell drives me nuts, he works his tail off and earns his role in the NBA. AND NO, I DO NOT WANT JAMAL MAGLOIRE!!!!! really, what is that all about? have you seen him play recently?? He, Radman, and Cookie are about the most passive big men in the game. Let's not add another loafer in the paint for all to expose. He's not garbage persay, but he is far from a solution. I think the play that killed us was the fast break with Lamar and Kobe that was stolen by Raja Bell. It was quickly converted into a bucket and we never scratched the surface after that.

We killed ourselves many other ways in that game, but that was a momentum killer at the worst possible time.

As much as Raja Bell drives me nuts, he works his tail off and earns his role in the NBA.

AND NO, I DO NOT WANT JAMAL MAGLOIRE!!!!! really, what is that all about? have you seen him play recently?? He, Radman, and Cookie are about the most passive big men in the game. Let’s not add another loafer in the paint for all to expose. He’s not garbage persay, but he is far from a solution.

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