Comments on: Ugh. http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/10/ugh/ A Lakers Blog. Thoughts, reflections, and the odd rant on the Los Angeles Lakers and the NBA (even the Clippers). Thu, 09 Feb 2012 04:46:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: matt http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/10/ugh/comment-page-1/#comment-86310 matt Mon, 16 Apr 2007 16:04:20 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/10/ugh/#comment-86310 James -- you say we need a point guard, so we should trade for Rashard Lewis or Gerald Green? How does that help? Rashard puts up good numbers on a bad team. Green has no clue how to play basketball. Odom is one of our best defenders. Either of those moves would be horrible for us. If you feel a need to trade Odom, at least trade him for Chauncey Billups. That's a move that would help. James — you say we need a point guard, so we should trade for Rashard Lewis or Gerald Green? How does that help?

Rashard puts up good numbers on a bad team. Green has no clue how to play basketball. Odom is one of our best defenders. Either of those moves would be horrible for us.

If you feel a need to trade Odom, at least trade him for Chauncey Billups. That’s a move that would help.

]]> By: James http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/10/ugh/comment-page-1/#comment-85334 James Sat, 14 Apr 2007 19:02:26 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/10/ugh/#comment-85334 Green* We all make mistakes Mr.Buss Green* We all make mistakes Mr.Buss

]]> By: James http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/10/ugh/comment-page-1/#comment-85333 James Sat, 14 Apr 2007 19:01:29 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/10/ugh/#comment-85333 The Lakers need a better point guard, plain and simple. Smush Parker can score, but cant pass, rebound, control tempo or be consistent. Lamar Odom isnt what we asked for, he passes and rebounds but dissapears when Kobe needs a number 2. Maybe its time to make a bid on say.....Rashard Lewis? But we dont have the cash, so maybe trading him for Gerald Lewis after Boston gets Durant is good. The team is young, has a good big combo that can grow and the best player in the league. Plus.....Jordan Farmar is far more a PG than Smush The Lakers need a better point guard, plain and simple. Smush Parker can score, but cant pass, rebound, control tempo or be consistent. Lamar Odom isnt what we asked for, he passes and rebounds but dissapears when Kobe needs a number 2. Maybe its time to make a bid on say…..Rashard Lewis? But we dont have the cash, so maybe trading him for Gerald Lewis after Boston gets Durant is good. The team is young, has a good big combo that can grow and the best player in the league. Plus…..Jordan Farmar is far more a PG than Smush

]]> By: matt http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/10/ugh/comment-page-1/#comment-84417 matt Fri, 13 Apr 2007 03:49:06 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/10/ugh/#comment-84417 Warren, I don't know where you're getting your salary info on Bynum. His salary next year is $2,172,000. He won't be a BYC player until 09-10 at the earliest. Warren, I don’t know where you’re getting your salary info on Bynum. His salary next year is $2,172,000. He won’t be a BYC player until 09-10 at the earliest.

]]> By: JONESONTHENBA http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/10/ugh/comment-page-1/#comment-84179 JONESONTHENBA Thu, 12 Apr 2007 19:26:49 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/10/ugh/#comment-84179 Lakers playing the Clippers tonight, and no sign of John R. I'm still waiting for an apology for your salary cap error, John. Lakers playing the Clippers tonight, and no sign of John R. I’m still waiting for an apology for your salary cap error, John.

]]> By: Exick http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/10/ugh/comment-page-1/#comment-84014 Exick Thu, 12 Apr 2007 14:15:58 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/10/ugh/#comment-84014 Hey Warren, where did Kwame go? Hey Warren, where did Kwame go?

]]> By: warren (philippines) http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/10/ugh/comment-page-1/#comment-83831 warren (philippines) Thu, 12 Apr 2007 07:39:04 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/10/ugh/#comment-83831 PG - FARMAR / SMUSHER / SHAMMOND W. SG - KOBE / VUJACIC / MCKIE SF - WALTON / EVANS PF - ODOM / COOK / RADMANOVIC C - BYNUM / TURIAF On the contrary, Bynum should start but his minutes shall be limited to around 20. Turiaf will come in for him and play 28. McKie and Williams are merely depth contingencies, Farmar should start and Smusher should back-up. To heck with his ego. PG – FARMAR / SMUSHER / SHAMMOND W.
SG – KOBE / VUJACIC / MCKIE
SF – WALTON / EVANS
PF – ODOM / COOK / RADMANOVIC
C – BYNUM / TURIAF

On the contrary, Bynum should start but his minutes shall be limited to around 20. Turiaf will come in for him and play 28.

McKie and Williams are merely depth contingencies, Farmar should start and Smusher should back-up. To heck with his ego.

]]> By: Karl http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/10/ugh/comment-page-1/#comment-83799 Karl Thu, 12 Apr 2007 06:03:43 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/10/ugh/#comment-83799 (36) Farmar is signed on for two years, not one. (36) Farmar is signed on for two years, not one.

]]> By: DrRayEye http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/10/ugh/comment-page-1/#comment-83794 DrRayEye Thu, 12 Apr 2007 05:33:04 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/10/ugh/#comment-83794 Nate (30), You've made some great points about starters and energy guys. I'm with you. Phil's logic seems to be somewhat quirky and convoluted. Let's talk about starters: Bynum was thought not to have enough stamina and zero experience, so Phil didn't play him hardly at all last year and this year had him booked for 10-15 minutes. Injuries forced Phil to play Andrew--and Bynum had some really amazing games--but by now it is clear that the Lakers initial assessment was not too far off. So why is Andrew starting and getting heavy minutes? Let's talk about energy guys. Ronnie played for 4 years at Gonzaga and has played international ball. He was a starter who could both defend and score. His performance has been the best of all big guys. He has been able to play starter minutes. He's not 19 years old. Everyone in LA loves him. His teammates love him. So why is Ronnie an "energy guy"? Is Phil saying that anyone who plays inspired defense and brings it every night becomes a sub? hmm Then there is the Smusher . . .I've read your posts, Nate. I'm a smushaphobe. Do I need to say more? There are those who post in FB&G that expect Smush to get a big contract as a free agent from another team. There are those who expect him to get a new contract with the Lakers. Somebody (11) was even talking about using Smush as a part of a sign and trade to the Celtics. There are a lot of Smushaholics out there. If we take an objective view of his performance this year, we must all conclude that the Smusher wears down as the game goes on. If one played him for fewer than twenty minutes a game, that probably wouldn't happen. Phil, you're plugging in the wrong guy off the bench: the Smusher is your ENERGY GUY!!! Nate (30),

You’ve made some great points about starters and energy guys. I’m with you. Phil’s logic seems to be somewhat quirky and convoluted.

Let’s talk about starters:

Bynum was thought not to have enough stamina and zero experience, so Phil didn’t play him hardly at all last year and this year had him booked for 10-15 minutes.

Injuries forced Phil to play Andrew–and Bynum had some really amazing games–but by now it is clear that the Lakers initial assessment was not too far off.

So why is Andrew starting and getting heavy minutes?

Let’s talk about energy guys.

Ronnie played for 4 years at Gonzaga and has played international ball. He was a starter who could both defend and score.

His performance has been the best of all big guys. He has been able to play starter minutes. He’s not 19 years old. Everyone in LA loves him. His teammates love him.

So why is Ronnie an “energy guy”? Is Phil saying that anyone who plays inspired defense and brings it every night becomes a sub? hmm

Then there is the Smusher . . .I’ve read your posts, Nate. I’m a smushaphobe. Do I need to say more?

There are those who post in FB&G that expect Smush to get a big contract as a free agent from another team. There are those who expect him to get a new contract with the Lakers. Somebody (11) was even talking about using Smush as a part of a sign and trade to the Celtics. There are a lot of Smushaholics out there.

If we take an objective view of his performance this year, we must all conclude that the Smusher wears down as the game goes on. If one played him for fewer than twenty minutes a game, that probably wouldn’t happen.

Phil, you’re plugging in the wrong guy off the bench:

the Smusher is your ENERGY GUY!!!

]]> By: warren (philippines) http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/10/ugh/comment-page-1/#comment-83793 warren (philippines) Thu, 12 Apr 2007 05:32:04 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/10/ugh/#comment-83793 My take on the Boston trade is this: AL JEFFERSON DELONTE WEST FOR ANDREW BYNUM SASHA VUJACIC sorry, this is the best we can do. My take on the Boston trade is this:

AL JEFFERSON
DELONTE WEST

FOR

ANDREW BYNUM
SASHA VUJACIC

sorry, this is the best we can do.

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