Comments on: Phil’s Freefall http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/15/phil%e2%80%99s-freefall/ A Lakers Blog. Thoughts, reflections, and the odd rant on the Los Angeles Lakers and the NBA (even the Clippers). Thu, 09 Feb 2012 09:18:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: d http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/15/phil%e2%80%99s-freefall/comment-page-2/#comment-86436 d Mon, 16 Apr 2007 19:50:06 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/15/phil%e2%80%99s-freefall/#comment-86436 I didn't know Ray Lewis played for the Sonics. Does Baltimore know about this? Seriously, Well said. Although I do feel that Mr Jackson has a a concept and a reason for what we as fans see as mistakes, bad substitutions, bad plays, etcetera. He seems to care less about winning during the regular season and treats the team like a chemistry set. It makes no sense to you or I, however, once the playoffs start, things seem to work. We'll have to see if it happens again this year. Cheers PS Yellow text on a white background is a bit hard to read. I didn’t know Ray Lewis played for the Sonics. Does Baltimore know about this?

Seriously, Well said. Although I do feel that Mr Jackson has a a concept and a reason for what we as fans see as mistakes, bad substitutions, bad plays, etcetera. He seems to care less about winning during the regular season and treats the team like a chemistry set. It makes no sense to you or I, however, once the playoffs start, things seem to work. We’ll have to see if it happens again this year. Cheers

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Yellow text on a white background is a bit hard to read.

]]> By: Paul http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/15/phil%e2%80%99s-freefall/comment-page-2/#comment-86417 Paul Mon, 16 Apr 2007 18:55:49 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/15/phil%e2%80%99s-freefall/#comment-86417 Will Phil have the guts to start Farmar in the playoffs? Starting lineup: PG: Farmar SG: Kobe SF: Luke PF: Odom C: Kwame Energy bench lineup with Kobe in PG: Kobe SG: Evans SF: Luke PF: Turiaf C: Kwame Bench Lineup with Odom in: PG: Farmar SG: Sasha/Smush SF: Evans PF: Odom C: Bynum/Turiaf Keep Smush to a minimum. Primary bench players Turiaf and Evans. Will Phil have the guts to start Farmar in the playoffs?

Starting lineup:

PG: Farmar SG: Kobe SF: Luke PF: Odom C: Kwame

Energy bench lineup with Kobe in

PG: Kobe SG: Evans SF: Luke PF: Turiaf C: Kwame

Bench Lineup with Odom in:

PG: Farmar SG: Sasha/Smush SF: Evans PF: Odom C: Bynum/Turiaf

Keep Smush to a minimum. Primary bench players Turiaf and Evans.

]]> By: DR http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/15/phil%e2%80%99s-freefall/comment-page-2/#comment-86416 DR Mon, 16 Apr 2007 18:51:22 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/15/phil%e2%80%99s-freefall/#comment-86416 I do agree that we need to make a choice between Vlade and Cook in the offseason. They are basically the same player. I do agree that we need to make a choice between Vlade and Cook in the offseason. They are basically the same player.

]]> By: matt http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/15/phil%e2%80%99s-freefall/comment-page-1/#comment-86408 matt Mon, 16 Apr 2007 18:41:00 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/15/phil%e2%80%99s-freefall/#comment-86408 It's not the whole team that's soft and lacks desire, just some individual players. But because of injuries and Phil's reluctance to play rookies, those players have gotten more minutes than we would like. Jordan, Kobe, Luke, Lamar, Mo Evans, Ronny and Mihm (when healthy) have plenty of desire and will to win. Kwame and Bynum are works in progress; the jury is still out on them. Smush, Sasha, Vlade and Cook are slow and soft and appear to lack desire. It’s not the whole team that’s soft and lacks desire, just some individual players. But because of injuries and Phil’s reluctance to play rookies, those players have gotten more minutes than we would like.

Jordan, Kobe, Luke, Lamar, Mo Evans, Ronny and Mihm (when healthy) have plenty of desire and will to win. Kwame and Bynum are works in progress; the jury is still out on them. Smush, Sasha, Vlade and Cook are slow and soft and appear to lack desire.

]]> By: azzemoto http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/15/phil%e2%80%99s-freefall/comment-page-1/#comment-86396 azzemoto Mon, 16 Apr 2007 18:24:56 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/15/phil%e2%80%99s-freefall/#comment-86396 The problem is much bigger than that. First of all, the Lakers are one of the slowest teams in the league. Especially when it comes to rotating on defense. They give up too many lay ups and open three pointers. Secondly, they do not have any consistent jump shooters. When Kobe draws the defense and kicks it out, wide open shots are missed. Third, Smoosh Parker is terrible. No foot speed on defense, three assists a game. Come on. Lastly, they are soft. They lack desire and the will to win. Put that all together and they are an average team at best. Out first round either 4-0 or 4-1. The problem is much bigger than that. First of all, the Lakers are one of the slowest teams in the league. Especially when it comes to rotating on defense. They give up too many lay ups and open three pointers. Secondly, they do not have any consistent jump shooters. When Kobe draws the defense and kicks it out, wide open shots are missed. Third, Smoosh Parker is terrible. No foot speed on defense, three assists a game. Come on. Lastly, they are soft. They lack desire and the will to win. Put that all together and they are an average team at best. Out first round either 4-0 or 4-1.

]]> By: matt http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/15/phil%e2%80%99s-freefall/comment-page-1/#comment-86388 matt Mon, 16 Apr 2007 18:03:52 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/15/phil%e2%80%99s-freefall/#comment-86388 Yeah I realize that Detroit is smarter than that, but I've also been reading reports about turmoil and bad chemistry in the Pistons' locker room. If Billups tells the team that he wants out and he's leaving one way or another, they'll take back 50 cents on the dollar rather than losing him for nothing. It's a long shot, I know, but it's not entirely out of the question. I agree that McHale would probably rather deal Garnett to Boston or even Chicago (who I think has better young players to offer than the Celtics). But don't forget that if KG says he wants out, because of his relationship with T-Wolves owner Glen Taylor he will have substantial say in where he ends up. Yeah I realize that Detroit is smarter than that, but I’ve also been reading reports about turmoil and bad chemistry in the Pistons’ locker room. If Billups tells the team that he wants out and he’s leaving one way or another, they’ll take back 50 cents on the dollar rather than losing him for nothing.

It’s a long shot, I know, but it’s not entirely out of the question.

I agree that McHale would probably rather deal Garnett to Boston or even Chicago (who I think has better young players to offer than the Celtics). But don’t forget that if KG says he wants out, because of his relationship with T-Wolves owner Glen Taylor he will have substantial say in where he ends up.

]]> By: Rob L. http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/15/phil%e2%80%99s-freefall/comment-page-1/#comment-86370 Rob L. Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:44:27 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/15/phil%e2%80%99s-freefall/#comment-86370 Ah, the playoffs. It's not exactly how anyone wanted the Lakers to enter but I think we'll all take it. I observed something that made me brush off my "disappointments": The Golden State fans who visited for the Clippers game. Those guys have had a long drought, and man were they stoked about potentially going to the playoffs. It reminded me that the playoffs are exciting and the first of several steps a team must reach to get to the championship. Sure, it probably won't happen this year. But missing the playoffs entirely would have been too depressing. Instead, we get to savor some post-season action. Let's enjoy it. Next season is a long way away. Ah, the playoffs. It’s not exactly how anyone wanted the Lakers to enter but I think we’ll all take it. I observed something that made me brush off my “disappointments”: The Golden State fans who visited for the Clippers game. Those guys have had a long drought, and man were they stoked about potentially going to the playoffs. It reminded me that the playoffs are exciting and the first of several steps a team must reach to get to the championship. Sure, it probably won’t happen this year. But missing the playoffs entirely would have been too depressing. Instead, we get to savor some post-season action. Let’s enjoy it. Next season is a long way away.

]]> By: DR http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/15/phil%e2%80%99s-freefall/comment-page-1/#comment-86365 DR Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:41:23 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/15/phil%e2%80%99s-freefall/#comment-86365 I think right now our best lineup is this: PG: Farmar SG: Kobe SF: Evans PF: Odom C: Kwame Bring Smush, Turiaf, and Luke off the bench for big minutes. Bynum and Vlade should get limited minutes based on matchups. Otherwise, Sasha and Cook should be used minimally. I think right now our best lineup is this:

PG: Farmar
SG: Kobe
SF: Evans
PF: Odom
C: Kwame

Bring Smush, Turiaf, and Luke off the bench for big minutes. Bynum and Vlade should get limited minutes based on matchups. Otherwise, Sasha and Cook should be used minimally.

]]> By: DR http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/15/phil%e2%80%99s-freefall/comment-page-1/#comment-86363 DR Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:38:37 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/15/phil%e2%80%99s-freefall/#comment-86363 I get the feeling that Dumars will do anything to keep Chauncey Billups around. The only other possibility I can see happening would be Memphis offering big bucks for his services. The Pistons don't need a package of mediocre players for a star player... they're smarter than that. I don't think that Minnesota wants to help us either. They are in the same conference, and wouldn't want their star player playing against them. I could see Kevin Mchale working out a trade with his old buddy Danny Ainge and the Celtics. Boston has the best package of young players to offer. The Lakers need to be intelligent in the offseason. Get a veteran PG to help out Farmar. Get a defensive post player that can clog up the middle. Sign an athletic SF that can also play defense. We have to be agressive... and a trade may be the only way to make a change for the better. I get the feeling that Dumars will do anything to keep Chauncey Billups around. The only other possibility I can see happening would be Memphis offering big bucks for his services. The Pistons don’t need a package of mediocre players for a star player… they’re smarter than that.

I don’t think that Minnesota wants to help us either. They are in the same conference, and wouldn’t want their star player playing against them. I could see Kevin Mchale working out a trade with his old buddy Danny Ainge and the Celtics. Boston has the best package of young players to offer.

The Lakers need to be intelligent in the offseason. Get a veteran PG to help out Farmar. Get a defensive post player that can clog up the middle. Sign an athletic SF that can also play defense. We have to be agressive… and a trade may be the only way to make a change for the better.

]]> By: Paul http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/15/phil%e2%80%99s-freefall/comment-page-1/#comment-86340 Paul Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:12:28 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/04/15/phil%e2%80%99s-freefall/#comment-86340 Smush is cancer. That's for sure. Smush is cancer. That’s for sure.

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