Comments on: The Downward Spiral http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/05/30/the-downward-spiral/ A Lakers Blog. Thoughts, reflections, and the odd rant on the Los Angeles Lakers and the NBA (even the Clippers). Thu, 09 Feb 2012 07:41:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: JONESONTHENBA http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/05/30/the-downward-spiral/comment-page-2/#comment-117659 JONESONTHENBA Thu, 31 May 2007 01:44:11 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/05/30/the-downward-spiral/#comment-117659 The insider is Vick the Brick... The insider is Vick the Brick…

]]> By: CTDeLude http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/05/30/the-downward-spiral/comment-page-2/#comment-117626 CTDeLude Thu, 31 May 2007 00:59:03 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/05/30/the-downward-spiral/#comment-117626 HEH... Got to admit I laughed at that John R. HEH…

Got to admit I laughed at that John R.

]]> By: John R. http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/05/30/the-downward-spiral/comment-page-2/#comment-117541 John R. Wed, 30 May 2007 23:54:17 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/05/30/the-downward-spiral/#comment-117541 Maybe this all goes back to the cake incident. WHERE WAS KOBE THEN? WAS THE INSIDER THE SECOND CAKER? Maybe this all goes back to the cake incident.

WHERE WAS KOBE THEN? WAS THE INSIDER THE SECOND CAKER?

]]> By: Cary D http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/05/30/the-downward-spiral/comment-page-2/#comment-117539 Cary D Wed, 30 May 2007 23:53:06 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/05/30/the-downward-spiral/#comment-117539 Yo Anthony -- I've been commenting quite a while on this blog and watching the Lakers all my life, well before Kobe -- calling my comment a dumb statement is a little too much, man. Your viewpoint is that of a Kobe fan first, Lakers fan second, not the other way around. I agree, the Lakers front-office is run pretty terribly, and Kobe is venting this as the main attraction for the team. He has a right to do so. The point I'm making is that if this was the first time I've heard Kobe go off, i'd give him the entire benefit of the doubt. But, he has a history of stirring the pot that, to me, transcends his role as a player. He has a very 'woe is me' attitude when dealing with other people around him. It's very fatiguing, even now as i AGREE with him 100% about the ineptitude of the front office. This is a soap opera, and Kobe is the star, make no mistake about it. HE should have got on the phone with Magic, Dr. Buss, Mitch, and others and let them know he was going to do this before talking to all his friends in the media. He always let's the media do his negotiating. I find it unprofessional. I am coming at this with Kobe being my favorite player in the NBA, hands-down. Sometimes, I just have to look in the mirror to see what's going on and not be on such an "unconditional love" viewpoint. That said, he is a smart guy that might just be playing his best hand yet. If so, we as Lakers fan should get what we want in the end. I just don't want to see my favorite player leave my favorite team based solely on sour grapes. If that happens, how can i not blame everyone, including KB24? Yo Anthony — I’ve been commenting quite a while on this blog and watching the Lakers all my life, well before Kobe — calling my comment a dumb statement is a little too much, man.

Your viewpoint is that of a Kobe fan first, Lakers fan second, not the other way around.

I agree, the Lakers front-office is run pretty terribly, and Kobe is venting this as the main attraction for the team. He has a right to do so.

The point I’m making is that if this was the first time I’ve heard Kobe go off, i’d give him the entire benefit of the doubt. But, he has a history of stirring the pot that, to me, transcends his role as a player. He has a very ‘woe is me’ attitude when dealing with other people around him. It’s very fatiguing, even now as i AGREE with him 100% about the ineptitude of the front office. This is a soap opera, and Kobe is the star, make no mistake about it. HE should have got on the phone with Magic, Dr. Buss, Mitch, and others and let them know he was going to do this before talking to all his friends in the media. He always let’s the media do his negotiating. I find it unprofessional.

I am coming at this with Kobe being my favorite player in the NBA, hands-down. Sometimes, I just have to look in the mirror to see what’s going on and not be on such an “unconditional love” viewpoint.

That said, he is a smart guy that might just be playing his best hand yet. If so, we as Lakers fan should get what we want in the end. I just don’t want to see my favorite player leave my favorite team based solely on sour grapes. If that happens, how can i not blame everyone, including KB24?

]]> By: Rhys http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/05/30/the-downward-spiral/comment-page-2/#comment-117533 Rhys Wed, 30 May 2007 23:45:29 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/05/30/the-downward-spiral/#comment-117533 I love Kobe I really do, but in all of this we have no reaction at all from any of his teammates. Are they not being contacted by the media or are they not bothering to say anything in fear of being axed for offending Kobe like said insider? Kobe is in my eyes top5 all time but right now he's just being a dick and not thinking of all the other players on the team and the effects of his comments on them. I love Kobe I really do, but in all of this we have no reaction at all from any of his teammates. Are they not being contacted by the media or are they not bothering to say anything in fear of being axed for offending Kobe like said insider?

Kobe is in my eyes top5 all time but right now he’s just being a dick and not thinking of all the other players on the team and the effects of his comments on them.

]]> By: A-Hole Carolla http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/05/30/the-downward-spiral/comment-page-2/#comment-117530 A-Hole Carolla Wed, 30 May 2007 23:41:11 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/05/30/the-downward-spiral/#comment-117530 It has been dismaying seeing the general consensus about the Lakers. Geezaloo, they were completely decimated by injuries this year. They played a segment of this season practically without an entire frontline. 3 of our 5 starters were effed up in the playoffs. This is good though. Kobe's tantrum puts pressure on everybody to improve. Keep Kobe. Find a couple more pieces this summer. Keep the nucleus together that has learned through all this. Focus almost entirely on freaking defense for training camp. Yes, whoever said it, we aren't that far away from being as good as Utah. It has been dismaying seeing the general consensus about the Lakers. Geezaloo, they were completely decimated by injuries this year. They played a segment of this season practically without an entire frontline. 3 of our 5 starters were effed up in the playoffs.

This is good though. Kobe’s tantrum puts pressure on everybody to improve.

Keep Kobe. Find a couple more pieces this summer. Keep the nucleus together that has learned through all this. Focus almost entirely on freaking defense for training camp.

Yes, whoever said it, we aren’t that far away from being as good as Utah.

]]> By: KD http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/05/30/the-downward-spiral/comment-page-2/#comment-117515 KD Wed, 30 May 2007 23:23:16 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/05/30/the-downward-spiral/#comment-117515 Nate, Henry Abbott asked me the same thing a few days ago. People started calling me "KD" in high school, and I think the only reason they did it is because certain guys feel a little skeeved out calling another guy "Kelly." Then I started ending my emails with it in 1997, and it was all over after that. Now I know how Kareem felt when Karim Abdul-Jabbar came along. I'm in trouble. Nate, Henry Abbott asked me the same thing a few days ago. People started calling me “KD” in high school, and I think the only reason they did it is because certain guys feel a little skeeved out calling another guy “Kelly.” Then I started ending my emails with it in 1997, and it was all over after that.

Now I know how Kareem felt when Karim Abdul-Jabbar came along. I’m in trouble.

]]> By: Kurt http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/05/30/the-downward-spiral/comment-page-2/#comment-117510 Kurt Wed, 30 May 2007 23:17:12 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/05/30/the-downward-spiral/#comment-117510 57. Agreed. 57. Agreed.

]]> By: JONESONTHENBA http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/05/30/the-downward-spiral/comment-page-2/#comment-117509 JONESONTHENBA Wed, 30 May 2007 23:16:35 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/05/30/the-downward-spiral/#comment-117509 KD, Obviously great minds think in similar ways: http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/05/30/kobe-bryant-media-relations-genius/ And what are you going to do now that Kevin Durant is around? It won't be long before everyone in the league is calling him KD... KD,

Obviously great minds think in similar ways:

http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/05/30/kobe-bryant-media-relations-genius/

And what are you going to do now that Kevin Durant is around? It won’t be long before everyone in the league is calling him KD…

]]> By: KD http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/05/30/the-downward-spiral/comment-page-2/#comment-117505 KD Wed, 30 May 2007 23:11:55 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/05/30/the-downward-spiral/#comment-117505 I know, I'm just saying that this "insider" tripe is all a (smart, and needed) ploy on Kobe Bean's end. He's not upset with the "insider," he's upset with the starting center, and last year's starting point guard, and the team's cap situation, and the inability to add a star or semi-star without losing LO. The faux-consternation about the "Laker insider" is just a convenient smokescreen in place to draw attention to more important, more pressing concerns. I know, I’m just saying that this “insider” tripe is all a (smart, and needed) ploy on Kobe Bean’s end. He’s not upset with the “insider,” he’s upset with the starting center, and last year’s starting point guard, and the team’s cap situation, and the inability to add a star or semi-star without losing LO.

The faux-consternation about the “Laker insider” is just a convenient smokescreen in place to draw attention to more important, more pressing concerns.

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