Comments on: The Draft and The Police http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/06/25/the-draft-and-the-police/ A Lakers Blog. Thoughts, reflections, and the odd rant on the Los Angeles Lakers and the NBA (even the Clippers). Fri, 30 Jul 2010 22:02:42 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Drew Boy http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/06/25/the-draft-and-the-police/comment-page-2/#comment-139181 Drew Boy Wed, 27 Jun 2007 21:11:30 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/06/25/the-draft-and-the-police/#comment-139181 skigi, I guess Ainge is holding pat with the #5 pick. To be honest, that's smart. Every year an All-Star goes on the trading block at the deadline. When it happens Boston has Theo Ratliff's expiring and a ton of young talent. They're a prime candidate to acquire said All-Star. All that being said, when the offseason first started, I thought the best thing the Lakers could have done was basically stand pat. Kwame would become more valuable as he contract got closer to expiring, and I'm assuming Bynum gets in better shape and a few of his questions are answered making him more valuable. But alas, that ain't happening. I wonder if Minnesota would be willing to part with the #7 pick if this whole thing goes down. They would still have #3 and #11, and we could offer Bynum and Sasha for Trent Hassell and the #7. I think at #7 we could get a player that could contribute more than Bynum and Hassell is a good wing defender. I just hope we don't trade for JO. I can feel it coming and it scares me to death. skigi,

I guess Ainge is holding pat with the #5 pick. To be honest, that’s smart. Every year an All-Star goes on the trading block at the deadline. When it happens Boston has Theo Ratliff’s expiring and a ton of young talent. They’re a prime candidate to acquire said All-Star.

All that being said, when the offseason first started, I thought the best thing the Lakers could have done was basically stand pat. Kwame would become more valuable as he contract got closer to expiring, and I’m assuming Bynum gets in better shape and a few of his questions are answered making him more valuable. But alas, that ain’t happening.

I wonder if Minnesota would be willing to part with the #7 pick if this whole thing goes down. They would still have #3 and #11, and we could offer Bynum and Sasha for Trent Hassell and the #7.

I think at #7 we could get a player that could contribute more than Bynum and Hassell is a good wing defender.

I just hope we don’t trade for JO. I can feel it coming and it scares me to death.

]]> By: robinred http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/06/25/the-draft-and-the-police/comment-page-2/#comment-139130 robinred Wed, 27 Jun 2007 20:01:28 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/06/25/the-draft-and-the-police/#comment-139130 Atlanta would move the Nos. 3 and 11 picks in Thursday's draft, as well as Zaza Pachulia and Anthony Johnson, to Minnesota Atlanta would move the Nos. 3 and 11 picks in Thursday’s draft, as well as Zaza Pachulia and Anthony Johnson, to Minnesota

]]> By: robinred http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/06/25/the-draft-and-the-police/comment-page-2/#comment-139128 robinred Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:56:43 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/06/25/the-draft-and-the-police/#comment-139128 Timberwolves talking three-way Garnett deal By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports June 27, 2007 NEW YORK – Minnesota Timberwolves forward Kevin Garnett is close to going to the Phoenix Suns in a monumental three-way trade that would send Phoenix forward Amare Stoudemire to the Atlanta Hawks, league sources said Wednesday. Atlanta would move the Nos. 3 and 11 picks. Timberwolves talking three-way Garnett deal

By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports
June 27, 2007

NEW YORK – Minnesota Timberwolves forward Kevin Garnett is close to going to the Phoenix Suns in a monumental three-way trade that would send Phoenix forward Amare Stoudemire to the Atlanta Hawks, league sources said Wednesday.

Atlanta would move the Nos. 3 and 11 picks.

]]> By: drrayeye http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/06/25/the-draft-and-the-police/comment-page-2/#comment-139085 drrayeye Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:53:56 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/06/25/the-draft-and-the-police/#comment-139085 Maybe after all the wheelers and dealers have whelt and delt, we will be back at square one for a KG trade--and it probably will be very simple--as long as KG controls the game. I still think that any Garnett deal this year goes through LA, but if Garnett waits and opts out, it may be Phoenix. to KG, in a paraphrase of Alice Cooper: With the Lakers, you could take the lead; You got the desire; we've got the need They lie right at you; you know you hate that game; with the T-Wolves or the Celtics you've got more loser pain We got Laker need We got Kobe need And Phil Jackson need None of us need to bleed Maybe after all the wheelers and dealers have whelt and delt, we will be back at square one for a KG trade–and it probably will be very simple–as long as KG controls the game.

I still think that any Garnett deal this year goes through LA, but if Garnett waits and opts out, it may be Phoenix.

to KG, in a paraphrase of Alice Cooper:

With the Lakers, you could take the lead;
You got the desire; we’ve got the need
They lie right at you; you know you hate that game;
with the T-Wolves or the Celtics
you’ve got more loser pain

We got Laker need
We got Kobe need
And Phil Jackson need

None of us need to bleed

]]> By: skigi http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/06/25/the-draft-and-the-police/comment-page-2/#comment-139080 skigi Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:41:57 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/06/25/the-draft-and-the-police/#comment-139080 Drew Boy, First of all, you can chime in whenever you want, I post my opinions so others can give me their opinions and we can discuss. You are right I agree with you, Jefferson probably isn't worth anything besides KG, the kid is pretty underrated. So I'm a little confused now... in the proposed BOS/PHX/ MIN trade... would Boston be giving up Jefferson? If not, if they're just giving up #5 and fillers to get Marion, that is where I think we can outbid the Suns and offer Odom and Bynum to them (assuming they were going to keep Jefferson. I would personally rather have a nucleus of Pierce, Jefferson, Odom, Bynum than a nucleus of Pierce, Jefferson, Marion (for probably only one year) Drew Boy,
First of all, you can chime in whenever you want, I post my opinions so others can give me their opinions and we can discuss.

You are right I agree with you, Jefferson probably isn’t worth anything besides KG, the kid is pretty underrated.

So I’m a little confused now… in the proposed BOS/PHX/ MIN trade… would Boston be giving up Jefferson? If not, if they’re just giving up #5 and fillers to get Marion, that is where I think we can outbid the Suns and offer Odom and Bynum to them (assuming they were going to keep Jefferson.

I would personally rather have a nucleus of Pierce, Jefferson, Odom, Bynum than a nucleus of Pierce, Jefferson, Marion (for probably only one year)

]]> By: Drew Boy http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/06/25/the-draft-and-the-police/comment-page-2/#comment-139077 Drew Boy Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:36:09 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/06/25/the-draft-and-the-police/#comment-139077 skigi, Not to chime in, but an answer to your question in 69), absolutely NO. I think Jefferson is as close to untouchable as it gets in Boston (probably more so than Pierce). I think what Boston wants to do is add another quality/All-Star type veteran to the Pierce-Jefferson duo. They are willing to give up the #5 to do that. And like JONES said, they would include both for KG, but KG only. skigi,

Not to chime in, but an answer to your question in 69), absolutely NO. I think Jefferson is as close to untouchable as it gets in Boston (probably more so than Pierce). I think what Boston wants to do is add another quality/All-Star type veteran to the Pierce-Jefferson duo. They are willing to give up the #5 to do that. And like JONES said, they would include both for KG, but KG only.

]]> By: skigi http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/06/25/the-draft-and-the-police/comment-page-2/#comment-139070 skigi Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:24:27 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/06/25/the-draft-and-the-police/#comment-139070 I see your point Jones and I agree. I wouldn't trade Jefferson and the #5 for JO either. But my point is... if we exclude JO from this proposed trade (and seemingly every proposed trade involving the Lakers), would Boston trade Jefferson and #5 for Odom and Bynum? I see your point Jones and I agree. I wouldn’t trade Jefferson and the #5 for JO either.

But my point is… if we exclude JO from this proposed trade (and seemingly every proposed trade involving the Lakers), would Boston trade Jefferson and #5 for Odom and Bynum?

]]> By: JONESONTHENBA http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/06/25/the-draft-and-the-police/comment-page-2/#comment-139063 JONESONTHENBA Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:11:56 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/06/25/the-draft-and-the-police/#comment-139063 65) Boston does want JO, but not for Al Jefferson and the number 5. Anytime Boston is involved, that is what Minn is looking to get from the deal. If they just took the number 5, Gerald Green, Cap filler and the Lakers number 19, that deal would have already been done. Boston only wants to move Jefferson and the number 5 for KG. That is the same issue that would hold up a potential PHX/Min/Boston deal. They will not give up the number 5 and Al Jefferson just to get Marion. Plus Marion has indicated that he doesn't want to stay in Boston. So the key to whether KG ends up in either PHX or LA seems to be two things: 1) Atlanta's willingness to participate in a three or four way deal. 2)PHX's willingness to trade Amare. If PHX is willing to move Amare the Lakers have no chance. But if they are not, it still seems like the Lakers have the next best chance to get something done. 65) Boston does want JO, but not for Al Jefferson and the number 5. Anytime Boston is involved, that is what Minn is looking to get from the deal. If they just took the number 5, Gerald Green, Cap filler and the Lakers number 19, that deal would have already been done. Boston only wants to move Jefferson and the number 5 for KG. That is the same issue that would hold up a potential PHX/Min/Boston deal. They will not give up the number 5 and Al Jefferson just to get Marion. Plus Marion has indicated that he doesn’t want to stay in Boston. So the key to whether KG ends up in either PHX or LA seems to be two things: 1) Atlanta’s willingness to participate in a three or four way deal. 2)PHX’s willingness to trade Amare. If PHX is willing to move Amare the Lakers have no chance. But if they are not, it still seems like the Lakers have the next best chance to get something done.

]]> By: Drew Boy http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/06/25/the-draft-and-the-police/comment-page-2/#comment-139052 Drew Boy Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:59:55 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/06/25/the-draft-and-the-police/#comment-139052 Oh, and if we trade Lamar, Bynum, and #19 for JO (or worse yet, include Kwame and take back Troy Murphy) I think I might shoot myself in the face. I just don't see it as an upgrade on the court or for the franchise moving forward. Oh, and if we trade Lamar, Bynum, and #19 for JO (or worse yet, include Kwame and take back Troy Murphy) I think I might shoot myself in the face.

I just don’t see it as an upgrade on the court or for the franchise moving forward.

]]> By: Drew Boy http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/06/25/the-draft-and-the-police/comment-page-2/#comment-139051 Drew Boy Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:58:40 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/06/25/the-draft-and-the-police/#comment-139051 JONES, I think Phoenix would trade Amare to Atlanta if they can do one of two things, move into the top 10 of the draft or get rid of Marcus Banks or Boris Diaw to shed some salary. Diaw, #24 and #29 to Charlotte for the #8 works and that would free up cap space to bring in KG and avoid the luxury tax. KG to LA ain't going to happen. We just don't have the pieces or the creativity to make it happen. JONES,

I think Phoenix would trade Amare to Atlanta if they can do one of two things, move into the top 10 of the draft or get rid of Marcus Banks or Boris Diaw to shed some salary.

Diaw, #24 and #29 to Charlotte for the #8 works and that would free up cap space to bring in KG and avoid the luxury tax.

KG to LA ain’t going to happen. We just don’t have the pieces or the creativity to make it happen.

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