Comments on: Game two and other thoughts. http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/10/12/game-two-and-other-thoughts/ A Lakers Blog. Thoughts, reflections, and the odd rant on the Los Angeles Lakers and the NBA (even the Clippers). Thu, 09 Feb 2012 09:18:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Craig W. http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/10/12/game-two-and-other-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-271834 Craig W. Mon, 15 Oct 2007 07:20:37 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/10/12/game-two-and-other-thoughts/#comment-271834 San Antonio not only can run with Ginobolli and Parker, but they defend with Bowen, Duncan and (fill in the blank). That is what separates them from the Phoenix's and Golden State's. I don't agree with our copying the fast break basketball entirely. I think what this team needs is balance. Also, that is the zen way. We need something for Kobe, Farmar, and Crit, but we also need some players to focus on defense. I too agree that Phil may be playing some mind games to keep all the players interested and motivated to continue to play defense, but I think our young players are now experienced enough with the triangle that they can integrate it with a fast break and defensive focus. Remember Farmar has real bball smarts and has a year's experience under his belt and Crit has 4yrs from his high school days. San Antonio not only can run with Ginobolli and Parker, but they defend with Bowen, Duncan and (fill in the blank). That is what separates them from the Phoenix’s and Golden State’s. I don’t agree with our copying the fast break basketball entirely. I think what this team needs is balance. Also, that is the zen way.

We need something for Kobe, Farmar, and Crit, but we also need some players to focus on defense.

I too agree that Phil may be playing some mind games to keep all the players interested and motivated to continue to play defense, but I think our young players are now experienced enough with the triangle that they can integrate it with a fast break and defensive focus. Remember Farmar has real bball smarts and has a year’s experience under his belt and Crit has 4yrs from his high school days.

]]> By: Daniel http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/10/12/game-two-and-other-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-271561 Daniel Mon, 15 Oct 2007 04:18:36 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/10/12/game-two-and-other-thoughts/#comment-271561 Golden State is definitely not the best team to try and learn a defensive strategy against. They are excellent at forcing teams to play their pace and style of game. However, lets look back two years when the Lakers took the Suns to 7 games. That series was all about keeping the Suns under 100 points. In case you don't remember, victories came from the games that we contained their scoring runs. The teams that are succeeding are not those that just score, but those that score on runs. San Antonio, Dallas and Phoenix are all capable of going 5, 6, or even 7 plays down court in a row with at least two points each trip. The Lakers struggle against teams like this because they are unable to score as often. They can put together nice plays and have an overall solid performance, but they will only be able to score at best maybe 3 consecutive trips down court. Golden State is definitely not the best team to try and learn a defensive strategy against. They are excellent at forcing teams to play their pace and style of game. However, lets look back two years when the Lakers took the Suns to 7 games. That series was all about keeping the Suns under 100 points. In case you don’t remember, victories came from the games that we contained their scoring runs. The teams that are succeeding are not those that just score, but those that score on runs. San Antonio, Dallas and Phoenix are all capable of going 5, 6, or even 7 plays down court in a row with at least two points each trip. The Lakers struggle against teams like this because they are unable to score as often. They can put together nice plays and have an overall solid performance, but they will only be able to score at best maybe 3 consecutive trips down court.

]]> By: Goo http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/10/12/game-two-and-other-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-271495 Goo Mon, 15 Oct 2007 03:16:16 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/10/12/game-two-and-other-thoughts/#comment-271495 IE is working fine now... IE is working fine now…

]]> By: Stephen http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/10/12/game-two-and-other-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-271487 Stephen Mon, 15 Oct 2007 03:08:59 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/10/12/game-two-and-other-thoughts/#comment-271487 Kurt, Site looks fine. In fact,for me,it's first time I haven't had to scroll down to see articles. Re the pace issue,it may be Phil trying to fix several problems. 1)Too many 3pt shots. By running,the team is going to basket instead of settling for 3pt shots. 2)Rewarding players for playing good defense. By letting players run instead of settling into offense it lets hustle players get involved in scoring. 3)Keeps players head in the game instead of them standing around watching Kobe and losing focus. 4)Learning Triangle takes time. W/so many young players who are having enough on their plate learning to play in NBA,Phil wants something basic for them to use while learning intricacies of Triangle. (Also makes for easier transition in case any new players come in via trade). And it's a return to Phil's roots. His beloved Knicks ran and his Bulls had a devastating fast break. Kurt,
Site looks fine. In fact,for me,it’s first time I haven’t had to scroll down to see articles.

Re the pace issue,it may be Phil trying to fix several problems.
1)Too many 3pt shots. By running,the team is going to basket instead of settling for 3pt shots.
2)Rewarding players for playing good defense. By letting players run instead of settling into offense it lets hustle players get involved in scoring.
3)Keeps players head in the game instead of them standing around watching Kobe and losing focus.
4)Learning Triangle takes time. W/so many young players who are having enough on their plate learning to play in NBA,Phil wants something basic for them to use while learning intricacies of Triangle. (Also makes for easier transition in case any new players come in via trade).
And it’s a return to Phil’s roots. His beloved Knicks ran and his Bulls had a devastating fast break.

]]> By: Warren Wee Lim http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/10/12/game-two-and-other-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-271472 Warren Wee Lim Mon, 15 Oct 2007 02:56:24 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/10/12/game-two-and-other-thoughts/#comment-271472 I agree Craig, its basically the most organized "disorganized-basketball" in all the world. I think 3-pointers will be a key this year. Radman is finding his stroke and Fish is here. These 2 are easily starters for other teams too. Why not start both and have 2 3-pt threats aside from Kobe? Odom and Radman can co-exist as both Forwards and not specify as SF or PF. I am excited to see Lamar put the ball on the floor. However, a certain degree of pessimism holds me back. Bynum has gotten better, but the frame of mind might be too fragile. Kwame is, well, you know how I feel about him. I can never stop talking about Kwame (but I must credit his interior D, no question) without talking about a possible trade. Then sign him the MLE next year? :) These being said, are we not better off with a legit post scoring threat? JO once more tickles my mind... that Dunleavy guy can be a tall PG too, or another 3-threat forward. I agree Craig, its basically the most organized “disorganized-basketball” in all the world.

I think 3-pointers will be a key this year. Radman is finding his stroke and Fish is here. These 2 are easily starters for other teams too. Why not start both and have 2 3-pt threats aside from Kobe? Odom and Radman can co-exist as both Forwards and not specify as SF or PF.

I am excited to see Lamar put the ball on the floor. However, a certain degree of pessimism holds me back. Bynum has gotten better, but the frame of mind might be too fragile. Kwame is, well, you know how I feel about him. I can never stop talking about Kwame (but I must credit his interior D, no question) without talking about a possible trade. Then sign him the MLE next year? :)

These being said, are we not better off with a legit post scoring threat? JO once more tickles my mind… that Dunleavy guy can be a tall PG too, or another 3-threat forward.

]]> By: Craig W. http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/10/12/game-two-and-other-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-271463 Craig W. Mon, 15 Oct 2007 02:48:44 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/10/12/game-two-and-other-thoughts/#comment-271463 Travis Y., Yes, Golden State runs screen and rolls. However, their preferred offense is a scramble and their steal oriented defense is designed to get 1-on-1 or 1-on-0 offensive situations. When you are learning anything you have to think and Golden State is not going to give you time to think about anything. That is the basis for my saying they are possibly the worst team to start off your defensive practice against. Travis Y.,
Yes, Golden State runs screen and rolls. However, their preferred offense is a scramble and their steal oriented defense is designed to get 1-on-1 or 1-on-0 offensive situations. When you are learning anything you have to think and Golden State is not going to give you time to think about anything. That is the basis for my saying they are possibly the worst team to start off your defensive practice against.

]]> By: Kurt http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/10/12/game-two-and-other-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-271445 Kurt Mon, 15 Oct 2007 02:39:02 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/10/12/game-two-and-other-thoughts/#comment-271445 26. Preseason is the time to be out of synch trying new things. That said, it is a myth the Lakers were a slow-it down team last year, they were 8th in the league in possessions (pace) per game. I think trying to push that a little more is a good thing, especially if you have guys like Odom and Kobe who can finish (and a Radman or Fisher spotting up in transition for a three). If it gets us just a couple more easy baskets a game I'll take it. It's just going to take a while to get used to. 26. Preseason is the time to be out of synch trying new things.

That said, it is a myth the Lakers were a slow-it down team last year, they were 8th in the league in possessions (pace) per game. I think trying to push that a little more is a good thing, especially if you have guys like Odom and Kobe who can finish (and a Radman or Fisher spotting up in transition for a three). If it gets us just a couple more easy baskets a game I’ll take it. It’s just going to take a while to get used to.

]]> By: Kurt http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/10/12/game-two-and-other-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-271436 Kurt Mon, 15 Oct 2007 02:30:25 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/10/12/game-two-and-other-thoughts/#comment-271436 Hey, my tech guy just said this site loaded fine in Internet Explorer, but I know it's not right in my test. Is it still off for you? Can you email me screen shots (email link is at the top of the righthand sidebar)? Hey, my tech guy just said this site loaded fine in Internet Explorer, but I know it’s not right in my test. Is it still off for you? Can you email me screen shots (email link is at the top of the righthand sidebar)?

]]> By: Warren Wee Lim http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/10/12/game-two-and-other-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-271431 Warren Wee Lim Mon, 15 Oct 2007 02:28:04 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/10/12/game-two-and-other-thoughts/#comment-271431 Phil's possible extension is pretty much is in tune with Kobe's years... as a Laker. On Brian Cook: I think the Lakers should actively trade him. For cap relief the most. Offer him to GSW or something or some team having that trade exception. Paying the tax is bad enough, paying it because of Brian Cook's extension is beyond terrible! Phil’s possible extension is pretty much is in tune with Kobe’s years… as a Laker.

On Brian Cook: I think the Lakers should actively trade him. For cap relief the most. Offer him to GSW or something or some team having that trade exception. Paying the tax is bad enough, paying it because of Brian Cook’s extension is beyond terrible!

]]> By: Gr8dunk http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/10/12/game-two-and-other-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-271215 Gr8dunk Sun, 14 Oct 2007 23:49:51 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/10/12/game-two-and-other-thoughts/#comment-271215 Zen Master likely to sign extension Jackson, 62, is believed to be leaning toward signing a two-year extension for about $20million. His current three-year, $30million deal expires after this season. ''He has pretty much agreed he would coach if he feels he can do it physically,'' owner Jerry Buss said. Jackson has had both hips replaced over the last two years. ''He feels a lot better,'' assistant Tex Winter said. ''He's much more animated this year than he was last year. He really came into the season last year not feeling very well. He is enjoying it now. He seems back to his old self.'' http://www.suntimes.com/sports/jackson/602327,CST-SPT-jax14a.article Zen Master likely to sign extension

Jackson, 62, is believed to be leaning toward signing a two-year extension for about $20million. His current three-year, $30million deal expires after this season. ”He has pretty much agreed he would coach if he feels he can do it physically,” owner Jerry Buss said. Jackson has had both hips replaced over the last two years. ”He feels a lot better,” assistant Tex Winter said. ”He’s much more animated this year than he was last year. He really came into the season last year not feeling very well. He is enjoying it now. He seems back to his old self.”

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/jackson/602327,CST-SPT-jax14a.article

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