Comments on: Winning Doesn’t Suck http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/11/05/winning-doesn%e2%80%99t-suck/ A Lakers Blog. Thoughts, reflections, and the odd rant on the Los Angeles Lakers and the NBA (even the Clippers). Thu, 09 Feb 2012 09:18:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: A-Hole Carolla http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/11/05/winning-doesn%e2%80%99t-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-309158 A-Hole Carolla Tue, 06 Nov 2007 18:44:50 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/11/05/winning-doesn%e2%80%99t-suck/#comment-309158 31. Sheesh, even I wouldn't put them that high yet. I think the Rockets should probably be at that spot right now. 31. Sheesh, even I wouldn’t put them that high yet.

I think the Rockets should probably be at that spot right now.

]]> By: Gr8dunk http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/11/05/winning-doesn%e2%80%99t-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-309114 Gr8dunk Tue, 06 Nov 2007 18:02:27 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/11/05/winning-doesn%e2%80%99t-suck/#comment-309114 Wow .. maybe we are not the only ones excited about the lakers team http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/powerRankings Lakers #4 on SI.com's Power Rankings Wow .. maybe we are not the only ones excited about the lakers team

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/powerRankings

Lakers #4 on SI.com’s Power Rankings

]]> By: Mike in the Mountain West http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/11/05/winning-doesn%e2%80%99t-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-309093 Mike in the Mountain West Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:48:16 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/11/05/winning-doesn%e2%80%99t-suck/#comment-309093 The key to tonights game is really going to be the bench. Our starters are outclassed by NO's starters but if they can keep it close hopefully our second unit can run away with it against their very weak bench. Or, as someone else pointed out, make their starters play more minutes, tire them out, and try to take it in the fourth quarter. The key to tonights game is really going to be the bench. Our starters are outclassed by NO’s starters but if they can keep it close hopefully our second unit can run away with it against their very weak bench. Or, as someone else pointed out, make their starters play more minutes, tire them out, and try to take it in the fourth quarter.

]]> By: A-Hole Carolla http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/11/05/winning-doesn%e2%80%99t-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-309088 A-Hole Carolla Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:45:17 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/11/05/winning-doesn%e2%80%99t-suck/#comment-309088 I've read a couple Lazenby books and enjoyed them a lot, and his analysis of the Scottie Pippen situation seems dead on. But his theories on recent Laker history , how just about EVERYTHING is a Phil Jackson mindgame, his conclusions that now Phil is possessing all the power... seem kinda retarded. I’ve read a couple Lazenby books and enjoyed them a lot, and his analysis of the Scottie Pippen situation seems dead on. But his theories on recent Laker history , how just about EVERYTHING is a Phil Jackson mindgame, his conclusions that now Phil is possessing all the power… seem kinda retarded.

]]> By: 81 Witness http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/11/05/winning-doesn%e2%80%99t-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-308949 81 Witness Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:12:51 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/11/05/winning-doesn%e2%80%99t-suck/#comment-308949 PGB- There are a lot of Lakers playing two man games, which is really nice. You can tell these guys are having fun on the court and are finally getting some "soul" and adhesiveness into this Laker team. Walton and Turiaf. Walton starts a drive and dishes to Turiaf or another open Laker. This is how team basketball is supposed to be played. PGB- There are a lot of Lakers playing two man games, which is really nice. You can tell these guys are having fun on the court and are finally getting some “soul” and adhesiveness into this Laker team. Walton and Turiaf. Walton starts a drive and dishes to Turiaf or another open Laker.

This is how team basketball is supposed to be played.

]]> By: Craig W. http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/11/05/winning-doesn%e2%80%99t-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-308871 Craig W. Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:08:11 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/11/05/winning-doesn%e2%80%99t-suck/#comment-308871 Sorry for the quick addition but... Another advantage for a superior 2nd unit is that other teams have to play their starters longer when playing us, if they expect to win. This forces them into botched rotations and makes their best players more tired over the course of the season. This is both physically and psychologically good at the time playoffs arrive. Sorry for the quick addition but…
Another advantage for a superior 2nd unit is that other teams have to play their starters longer when playing us, if they expect to win. This forces them into botched rotations and makes their best players more tired over the course of the season. This is both physically and psychologically good at the time playoffs arrive.

]]> By: Craig W. http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/11/05/winning-doesn%e2%80%99t-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-308865 Craig W. Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:03:59 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/11/05/winning-doesn%e2%80%99t-suck/#comment-308865 As JONESONTHENBA has said on several occasions; Jordan Farmar is a true gym rat and has the makings of Kobe Bryant focus. Therefore, some of us who have watched him at UCLA and earlier are not suprised by his dedication and improvement this year over last year. I wouldn't have predicted he would be a vet by this time, but I did believe it was possible. I too think he is perfect for running the 2nd team - he will get more minutes and he will really 'earn his bones'. That doesn't earn all-star votes, but if our 2nd team can create or extend leads it will practically force the 1st unit to work harder. How would you feel if you were a starter and lost leads that the 2nd unit continually got for you. I would not only be pis*ed off, but a little uncomfortable about my starting status. As JONESONTHENBA has said on several occasions; Jordan Farmar is a true gym rat and has the makings of Kobe Bryant focus. Therefore, some of us who have watched him at UCLA and earlier are not suprised by his dedication and improvement this year over last year. I wouldn’t have predicted he would be a vet by this time, but I did believe it was possible.

I too think he is perfect for running the 2nd team – he will get more minutes and he will really ‘earn his bones’. That doesn’t earn all-star votes, but if our 2nd team can create or extend leads it will practically force the 1st unit to work harder. How would you feel if you were a starter and lost leads that the 2nd unit continually got for you. I would not only be pis*ed off, but a little uncomfortable about my starting status.

]]> By: Warren Wee Lim http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/11/05/winning-doesn%e2%80%99t-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-308337 Warren Wee Lim Tue, 06 Nov 2007 08:35:38 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/11/05/winning-doesn%e2%80%99t-suck/#comment-308337 Bynum's averages so far are at 11ppg, 8.7rpg, 2.3apg. These are decent numbers which, if you excluded the opener vs. Houston, his averages are 14.5ppg, 11rpg, 2.5apg. I'd like to see him maintain the scoring aspect and up the rebounding and block shots. It means he is "working hard" as Kobe likes it, it means he is playing D. As for that wall, there will be no wall this year as long as he is not stretched to play more than 25mpg. The most pleasant surprise for me is Jordan Farmar. The young kid has shown maturity like no other player -a PG at that. Just as I said, if Farmar can keep the second unit together for long stretches of time, we can give Kobe plenty of rest for the playoffs. If Farmar could be a Tony Parker-like player this year, we will justify Marc Stein for ranking us #10 in the power rankings. From a meager #20 to a credible #10. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/powerranking?season=2008&week=1 Bynum’s averages so far are at 11ppg, 8.7rpg, 2.3apg. These are decent numbers which, if you excluded the opener vs. Houston, his averages are 14.5ppg, 11rpg, 2.5apg.

I’d like to see him maintain the scoring aspect and up the rebounding and block shots. It means he is “working hard” as Kobe likes it, it means he is playing D. As for that wall, there will be no wall this year as long as he is not stretched to play more than 25mpg.

The most pleasant surprise for me is Jordan Farmar. The young kid has shown maturity like no other player -a PG at that. Just as I said, if Farmar can keep the second unit together for long stretches of time, we can give Kobe plenty of rest for the playoffs. If Farmar could be a Tony Parker-like player this year, we will justify Marc Stein for ranking us #10 in the power rankings. From a meager #20 to a credible #10.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/powerranking?season=2008&week=1

]]> By: Lamar Odom http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/11/05/winning-doesn%e2%80%99t-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-308194 Lamar Odom Tue, 06 Nov 2007 07:01:20 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/11/05/winning-doesn%e2%80%99t-suck/#comment-308194 tomorrow is the first test this young laker team will face this season. it's the hornets, and though they are 3-0 their reputation will rule the lakers minds; that is, "easy win". Last season the lakers slacked off against teams they should have beaten. Let's see what happens this time around. I actually think of this as Bynum's 2nd year in the league. He hardly played as a rookie, so I consider last season his first true season. ya'll may disagree, and I don't care. that's how i see it. tomorrow is the first test this young laker team will face this season. it’s the hornets, and though they are 3-0 their reputation will rule the lakers minds; that is, “easy win”. Last season the lakers slacked off against teams they should have beaten. Let’s see what happens this time around.

I actually think of this as Bynum’s 2nd year in the league. He hardly played as a rookie, so I consider last season his first true season. ya’ll may disagree, and I don’t care. that’s how i see it.

]]> By: Craig W. http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/11/05/winning-doesn%e2%80%99t-suck/comment-page-1/#comment-308063 Craig W. Tue, 06 Nov 2007 05:27:08 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/11/05/winning-doesn%e2%80%99t-suck/#comment-308063 We are using the cautionary tale of how Bynum hit the wall last year in evaluating what he is doing this year. It is two entirely different situations - at least up to this point. Last year we had all those injuries and Andrew had to play far, far more minutes than Phil has planned for him. He was 19yrs old and a young 19 at that. It would have been very unusual if he hadn't hit that wall. However, it resulted in his beginning a summer conditioning program and working out extra hard - as well as turning 20. Now he is tougher and his minutes this year should decrease from last year. I do not expect him to hit any wall this year. We are using the cautionary tale of how Bynum hit the wall last year in evaluating what he is doing this year. It is two entirely different situations – at least up to this point.

Last year we had all those injuries and Andrew had to play far, far more minutes than Phil has planned for him. He was 19yrs old and a young 19 at that. It would have been very unusual if he hadn’t hit that wall. However, it resulted in his beginning a summer conditioning program and working out extra hard – as well as turning 20. Now he is tougher and his minutes this year should decrease from last year. I do not expect him to hit any wall this year.

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