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		<title>By: A-Hole Carolla</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/11/20/game-preview-chat-the-indiana-pacers/comment-page-2/#comment-329377</link>
		<dc:creator>A-Hole Carolla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>70.  Bird&#039;s probably smart enough to not come down the lane with that weak stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>70.  Bird&#8217;s probably smart enough to not come down the lane with that weak stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: drrayeye</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/11/20/game-preview-chat-the-indiana-pacers/comment-page-2/#comment-328890</link>
		<dc:creator>drrayeye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s welcome Trevor Ariza home!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s welcome Trevor Ariza home!</p>
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		<title>By: Rob L.</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/11/20/game-preview-chat-the-indiana-pacers/comment-page-2/#comment-328748</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I ran the numbers.  Even given the pace of this game, which was a blistering 99.51, the Lakers did a poorer job than I imagined.  The Lakers TMOR% was a paltry 12.50.  That&#039;s pretty hideous.

The Pacers TMOR% was 29.03.  That&#039;s bad, but not the worst the Lakers have allowed.  In the second Rockets game Houston had 34.48%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I ran the numbers.  Even given the pace of this game, which was a blistering 99.51, the Lakers did a poorer job than I imagined.  The Lakers TMOR% was a paltry 12.50.  That&#8217;s pretty hideous.</p>
<p>The Pacers TMOR% was 29.03.  That&#8217;s bad, but not the worst the Lakers have allowed.  In the second Rockets game Houston had 34.48%.</p>
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		<title>By: anoni</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/11/20/game-preview-chat-the-indiana-pacers/comment-page-2/#comment-328746</link>
		<dc:creator>anoni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have the feeling Bird will ring up the Lakers asking for only Bynum and fillers. 

The young guy showed up tonight. He showed he was worth more than the Pacers valued him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the feeling Bird will ring up the Lakers asking for only Bynum and fillers. </p>
<p>The young guy showed up tonight. He showed he was worth more than the Pacers valued him.</p>
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		<title>By: The Dude Abides</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/11/20/game-preview-chat-the-indiana-pacers/comment-page-2/#comment-328737</link>
		<dc:creator>The Dude Abides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 04:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m the guy who asked everyone commenting on the game to use SPOILER to start the post, since I and probably some others were watching on tape delay.  Everyone was so considerate that I&#039;m almost embarrassed.   Kudos on that, and some great comments too.  I absolutely loved Andrew blocking three of JO&#039;s shots tonight, including two on one possession.   Let&#039;s compare their stats, since some moronic sportswriters still believe that the Lakers should trade him and Lamar for JO:

Bynum 17pts 10rebs 4blk 100% FG 83%FT
O&#039;Neal  14pts 3 rebs  0blk  31%FG 67%FT

Salaries:
Bynum ~$2.5m-3m not sure exactly
O&#039;Neal ~$19m

Age:
Bynum 20 yrs
O&#039;Neal 29 yrs

I don&#039;t know, what do you guys think?  If I&#039;m Isiah or McHale and I have Andrew and LO on my team, I make that trade.  Mitch may not be a  Buford or a Colangelo, but he&#039;s about five levels above Isiah and McHale in competence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m the guy who asked everyone commenting on the game to use SPOILER to start the post, since I and probably some others were watching on tape delay.  Everyone was so considerate that I&#8217;m almost embarrassed.   Kudos on that, and some great comments too.  I absolutely loved Andrew blocking three of JO&#8217;s shots tonight, including two on one possession.   Let&#8217;s compare their stats, since some moronic sportswriters still believe that the Lakers should trade him and Lamar for JO:</p>
<p>Bynum 17pts 10rebs 4blk 100% FG 83%FT<br />
O&#8217;Neal  14pts 3 rebs  0blk  31%FG 67%FT</p>
<p>Salaries:<br />
Bynum ~$2.5m-3m not sure exactly<br />
O&#8217;Neal ~$19m</p>
<p>Age:<br />
Bynum 20 yrs<br />
O&#8217;Neal 29 yrs</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know, what do you guys think?  If I&#8217;m Isiah or McHale and I have Andrew and LO on my team, I make that trade.  Mitch may not be a  Buford or a Colangelo, but he&#8217;s about five levels above Isiah and McHale in competence.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 04:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Mo can claim he was traded for T-Mac.

McGrady was traded for Francis,Cato and Mobley.
Mobley became Christie,who was waived.
Cato and a First became Darko who was released.
Francis became Penny&#039;s expiring contract and Ariza.
And Ariza  became Mo Evans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Mo can claim he was traded for T-Mac.</p>
<p>McGrady was traded for Francis,Cato and Mobley.<br />
Mobley became Christie,who was waived.<br />
Cato and a First became Darko who was released.<br />
Francis became Penny&#8217;s expiring contract and Ariza.<br />
And Ariza  became Mo Evans.</p>
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		<title>By: A-Hole Carolla</title>
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		<dc:creator>A-Hole Carolla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 04:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>65.  Yeah, this&#039;ll be the deal that keeps Mitch employed.

Were Evans&#039;s defensive numbers good?  I know he had some injuries, maybe that slowed him.  I liked having another good perimeter defender outside of Kobe.

Oh well, the money makes great sense, and it&#039;s probably wise to get someone who can D up small forwards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>65.  Yeah, this&#8217;ll be the deal that keeps Mitch employed.</p>
<p>Were Evans&#8217;s defensive numbers good?  I know he had some injuries, maybe that slowed him.  I liked having another good perimeter defender outside of Kobe.</p>
<p>Oh well, the money makes great sense, and it&#8217;s probably wise to get someone who can D up small forwards.</p>
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		<title>By: hertagnism</title>
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		<dc:creator>hertagnism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 04:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well just finished the game on KCAL. Although the Lakers got rid of Brian Cook, I think the trade had an impact on the team as they weren&#039;t playing as well as they have shown these previous games. The 2nd chance points almost killed the Lakers if it weren&#039;t for the hot shooting. 

Uh, Jordan Farmar? Dude&#039;s got game. Hope the FO doesn&#039;t let him go. 

LO needs to be more assertive. Kobe is Kobe. 

Overall, a well played game. Bad 1st half but made up for it the 2nd half. Up next are the Bucks. Hope the Lakers won&#039;t succumb to last year&#039;s tendencies and play down to the competition. They need tomorrow&#039;s win to build some momentum for Boston.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well just finished the game on KCAL. Although the Lakers got rid of Brian Cook, I think the trade had an impact on the team as they weren&#8217;t playing as well as they have shown these previous games. The 2nd chance points almost killed the Lakers if it weren&#8217;t for the hot shooting. </p>
<p>Uh, Jordan Farmar? Dude&#8217;s got game. Hope the FO doesn&#8217;t let him go. </p>
<p>LO needs to be more assertive. Kobe is Kobe. </p>
<p>Overall, a well played game. Bad 1st half but made up for it the 2nd half. Up next are the Bucks. Hope the Lakers won&#8217;t succumb to last year&#8217;s tendencies and play down to the competition. They need tomorrow&#8217;s win to build some momentum for Boston.</p>
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		<title>By: 81 Witness</title>
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		<dc:creator>81 Witness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 03:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Ariza trade might help Mitch salvage his job. Saves on the luxury tax and gets the Lakers another athletic body. I don&#039;t think the Lakers need to get C Webb or PJ right now with the way they are playing.

I believe the Lakers are saving up for a stud FA next season to keep Kobe in LA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Ariza trade might help Mitch salvage his job. Saves on the luxury tax and gets the Lakers another athletic body. I don&#8217;t think the Lakers need to get C Webb or PJ right now with the way they are playing.</p>
<p>I believe the Lakers are saving up for a stud FA next season to keep Kobe in LA.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 03:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SPOILER:  54.  I&#039;ll take a look deeper into OR%, but 21 boards at half when they were mostly defensive rebounds does correspond to what I was saying.  Or to put it another way, the Lakers&#039; defensive rebounds are tied to the Pacers offensive rebounds.  Add those two numbers and you&#039;ll (EDIT:  usually) have the number of Pacer misses.  The fact that the Pacers had a fairly gaudy number of total offensive rebounds is partly due to so many misses.  This all ties in to the pace of the game, which should be fairly high.

I&#039;m going to eat some dinner now, but I&#039;ll actually figure what the game OR% was for the Pacers and see how badly the Lakers did on that end of the boards.  I&#039;ll post it later.  Maybe I&#039;m figuring it wrong in my head on the fly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SPOILER:  54.  I&#8217;ll take a look deeper into OR%, but 21 boards at half when they were mostly defensive rebounds does correspond to what I was saying.  Or to put it another way, the Lakers&#8217; defensive rebounds are tied to the Pacers offensive rebounds.  Add those two numbers and you&#8217;ll (EDIT:  usually) have the number of Pacer misses.  The fact that the Pacers had a fairly gaudy number of total offensive rebounds is partly due to so many misses.  This all ties in to the pace of the game, which should be fairly high.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to eat some dinner now, but I&#8217;ll actually figure what the game OR% was for the Pacers and see how badly the Lakers did on that end of the boards.  I&#8217;ll post it later.  Maybe I&#8217;m figuring it wrong in my head on the fly.</p>
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