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		<title>By: 81 Witness</title>
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		<dc:creator>81 Witness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evaluating the keys to success (not mentioned by Kurt):
1) Kobe and LA cannot afford to play opportunistic defense. Last time, it left Bonner and Bowen open for 3s. It might suit the Lakers best to play zone defense. Havenâ€™t seen much of it from Phil, but it will take away those wide-open looks. 

a) A nice bright spot for the Lakers yesterday. However, they did let Bowen get open, but stopped the dribble-drive. Excellent defense end of 2nd and start of the 3rd. B+ 

2) The Lakers cannot settle for 3 pointers against this team. Drive the lane and get them in foul trouble. If they switch up to a zone, put the shooters in.

a) The Lakers settled for 3s early and only the bench connected consistently. LO, stop shooting 3s. The Lakers got Bowen and Ginobli in foul trouble early.
B-.

3) Limit turnovers. Fisher and Farmar need to handle the ball. Keep it out of Kobeâ€™s and Lamarâ€™s hands. Bowen is a good defender and Ginobli + Parker + Horry will step in for a flop. If the Lakers limit dribbling and move the ball around efficiently, they will find seams and not allow players to setup for the charge. 

a) Excellent ball control and movement. Only a couple of silly passes. Very few fast break points for the Spurs and only a couple of offensive fouls by the Lakers.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evaluating the keys to success (not mentioned by Kurt):<br />
1) Kobe and LA cannot afford to play opportunistic defense. Last time, it left Bonner and Bowen open for 3s. It might suit the Lakers best to play zone defense. Havenâ€™t seen much of it from Phil, but it will take away those wide-open looks. </p>
<p>a) A nice bright spot for the Lakers yesterday. However, they did let Bowen get open, but stopped the dribble-drive. Excellent defense end of 2nd and start of the 3rd. B+ </p>
<p>2) The Lakers cannot settle for 3 pointers against this team. Drive the lane and get them in foul trouble. If they switch up to a zone, put the shooters in.</p>
<p>a) The Lakers settled for 3s early and only the bench connected consistently. LO, stop shooting 3s. The Lakers got Bowen and Ginobli in foul trouble early.<br />
B-.</p>
<p>3) Limit turnovers. Fisher and Farmar need to handle the ball. Keep it out of Kobeâ€™s and Lamarâ€™s hands. Bowen is a good defender and Ginobli + Parker + Horry will step in for a flop. If the Lakers limit dribbling and move the ball around efficiently, they will find seams and not allow players to setup for the charge. </p>
<p>a) Excellent ball control and movement. Only a couple of silly passes. Very few fast break points for the Spurs and only a couple of offensive fouls by the Lakers.<br />
A-</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The proposed trade comment has been deleted. This team is 13-8, playing well, coming together and some people can&#039;t stop wanting to pretend to be GM. I can&#039;t say don&#039;t do it, but I will say don&#039;t do it here. Until there is actual confirmed trade talk going on, that topic is dead here.

(And people get double foolish points for talking about JO as if he was the JO of two years ago and thinking he&#039;s the answer. Have you seen him this season?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The proposed trade comment has been deleted. This team is 13-8, playing well, coming together and some people can&#8217;t stop wanting to pretend to be GM. I can&#8217;t say don&#8217;t do it, but I will say don&#8217;t do it here. Until there is actual confirmed trade talk going on, that topic is dead here.</p>
<p>(And people get double foolish points for talking about JO as if he was the JO of two years ago and thinking he&#8217;s the answer. Have you seen him this season?)</p>
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		<title>By: kwame a.</title>
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		<dc:creator>kwame a.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the first season Kobe is exhibiting the leadership abilities of Jordan,Magic,Bird. He is out there willing this team to believe. Pretty remerkable if you can think back 120 days, and the firestorm that surronded the team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the first season Kobe is exhibiting the leadership abilities of Jordan,Magic,Bird. He is out there willing this team to believe. Pretty remerkable if you can think back 120 days, and the firestorm that surronded the team.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Ariza too, but that doesn&#039;t make me want to make any trades at this point, I think the team still is building chemistry, and should only improve as the season progresses.
I think Ariza will earn more minutes as the season progress, agree that it&#039;s nice to see him attack the rim and look for put backs on offensive boards, and he hits his free throws! like you said, when he becomes consistent on a mid range jumper, he&#039;s a solid player.
however, I don&#039;t think JO is an answer, seems to me that he&#039;s lost a step, and seems to be constantly injured.
I agree a back up PF, with guts and hustle would be nice...but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s JO, too expensive, too many risks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Ariza too, but that doesn&#8217;t make me want to make any trades at this point, I think the team still is building chemistry, and should only improve as the season progresses.<br />
I think Ariza will earn more minutes as the season progress, agree that it&#8217;s nice to see him attack the rim and look for put backs on offensive boards, and he hits his free throws! like you said, when he becomes consistent on a mid range jumper, he&#8217;s a solid player.<br />
however, I don&#8217;t think JO is an answer, seems to me that he&#8217;s lost a step, and seems to be constantly injured.<br />
I agree a back up PF, with guts and hustle would be nice&#8230;but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s JO, too expensive, too many risks.</p>
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		<title>By: DMo</title>
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		<dc:creator>DMo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,

When you say kwame/Odom for J.O., I hope you don&#039;t mean both of them. (BTW there is no issue in Bird &quot;going&quot; for that. He&#039;d jump at it the way J.O is playing).  I&#039;d trade Brown and filler, but given how J.O. looks this season, he&#039;s not worthy of any deal involving Odom.. He&#039;s down a block and 3 defensive boards from the last two seasons and his mobility has become a real issue. Part of it is the running system he&#039;s in, but the Lakers are a faster offense this season too. And I&#039;m not even sure the 2007 J.O. is that much better than Kwame on defense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>When you say kwame/Odom for J.O., I hope you don&#8217;t mean both of them. (BTW there is no issue in Bird &#8220;going&#8221; for that. He&#8217;d jump at it the way J.O is playing).  I&#8217;d trade Brown and filler, but given how J.O. looks this season, he&#8217;s not worthy of any deal involving Odom.. He&#8217;s down a block and 3 defensive boards from the last two seasons and his mobility has become a real issue. Part of it is the running system he&#8217;s in, but the Lakers are a faster offense this season too. And I&#8217;m not even sure the 2007 J.O. is that much better than Kwame on defense.</p>
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		<title>By: DMo</title>
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		<dc:creator>DMo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lamar is falling prey to some bad habits that seem easily corrected (which is what makes them so frustrating to watch night after night): the well-documented early, gaurded jumpers; the lack of post-play; the infrequent use of his natural advantages over shorter, right handed players. The team is still playing well, but that has a lot more to do with the improvement of our youngsters than the veterans who shouldd be carrying us (Kobe, of course, excepted). I&#039;m happy with where the team is at, however I can&#039;t help feeling that they could be a couple steps further ahead if Odom and Walton could simply give us a reasonable approximation of what they gave us last season. 

On a more positive note, Trevor Ariza could be a real impact player for us.  He really knows how to stay with his guy and rotate on the perimiter, and I think it may be rubbing off on some of the other players. I love to see a young guy finding his niche on a team. There are key junctions in a game when he is the only small forward I want to see on the floor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lamar is falling prey to some bad habits that seem easily corrected (which is what makes them so frustrating to watch night after night): the well-documented early, gaurded jumpers; the lack of post-play; the infrequent use of his natural advantages over shorter, right handed players. The team is still playing well, but that has a lot more to do with the improvement of our youngsters than the veterans who shouldd be carrying us (Kobe, of course, excepted). I&#8217;m happy with where the team is at, however I can&#8217;t help feeling that they could be a couple steps further ahead if Odom and Walton could simply give us a reasonable approximation of what they gave us last season. </p>
<p>On a more positive note, Trevor Ariza could be a real impact player for us.  He really knows how to stay with his guy and rotate on the perimiter, and I think it may be rubbing off on some of the other players. I love to see a young guy finding his niche on a team. There are key junctions in a game when he is the only small forward I want to see on the floor.</p>
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		<title>By: nomuskles</title>
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		<dc:creator>nomuskles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went to the game last night. It&#039;s REALLY different watching at Staples vs. watching on television. First of all, those time outs take FOREVER! We need to do something about this. When play by play announcers say that a time out is called to try and stop the momentum of the other team, they aren&#039;t joking. The effect is magnified at Staples where so many people just go to be seen, they aren&#039;t gonna be up cheering with all their heart. Timeouts KILL the energy at Staples. There was only one time in the game when the crowd actually got loud and that was only cuz the scoreboard told them to. I would love to have LA fans be as loud/passionate as golden state fans, or sacramento fans a few years ago.

The music selection at Staples Center is terrible. Safe, innocuous and totally crap.

The half court short in between the 3rd and 4th quarters by the fan looking to win some cash was awful. It looked like a hooked golf shot. It was way left. I felt bad for the guy. He got a substantial boo.

@64. Lamar got into an argument in the fourth quarter, when the game was pretty much sewn up. Kobe kept pushing him back towards half court so that he wouldn&#039;t get a technical. I&#039;m not sure why he was so angered.

Re: Bynum&#039;s ejection. That was really confusing from the nosebleed seats. He and Oberto were tangled up but not looking at each other right at halfcourt. Also, Bynum had already knocked ginobili to the floor earlier in the game. And then all of a sudden there was a technical. Which I could understand. Although I echo the sentiments of wondering why it wasn&#039;t a double T. Maybe Bynum started it. And then I have no idea why Bynum was so upset or what he said. Because it was actually a different official not near Andrew who gave the second one. He was standing right next to ginobili and I thought maybe Ginobili got a T for something. Bynum didn&#039;t even seem like he was doing much to earn the second one. But after he got the second T is when he really exploded. Multiple Lakers held him back. I forgot to look at Phil&#039;s reaction but it didn&#039;t seem to phase him. This was the first point the crowd kind of got into it. A lot of boos when Finley was shooting the free throws, although, he made the second one and quieted the crowd down again. 

In person, it seemed like the reffing was fairly consistent in letting physical contact near the basket go. Lots of times players would go to the basket and seem to get their arms hit and no whistle would sound. Ginobili and Luke were the most frequent victims of this pattern.

I don&#039;t know if they showed it on TV, but I was a little bit amazed that Craig Sager got an interview with Phil Jackson during a time out or between a quarter. You&#039;d think he was busy drawing up plays or thinking about adjustments.

Who was this Darius Washington character? He was no Tony Parker but quite passable as an NBA player.

Lakers did a good job clamping down on Ginobili but were fortunate to have the Spurs miss A LOT of open looks. They had to scramble a lot on defense. A healthy Spurs team would have killed the Lakers with all those open shots.

Sasha and Kobe kept leaving Bruce Bowen open for threes. I think that hurt them a lot, especially when they were just sagging off, not actually giving rotation help.

I agree with the sentiments that Kobe took a lot of ill-advised shots. In person you can tell how difficult/low-percentage a lot of his fadeaways are. Many of them came up short. I also agree that the Lakers were shooting jump shots without looking inside first. Our players aren&#039;t jump-shooters. Much more successful around the basket.

Lamar&#039;s game didn&#039;t seem as bad in person as many previous comments have complained about. He was getting a lot of rebounds, playing active defense. Basically having a pretty typical Lamar game. The only knocks I had were the missed dunk early in the game and the ugly three balls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to the game last night. It&#8217;s REALLY different watching at Staples vs. watching on television. First of all, those time outs take FOREVER! We need to do something about this. When play by play announcers say that a time out is called to try and stop the momentum of the other team, they aren&#8217;t joking. The effect is magnified at Staples where so many people just go to be seen, they aren&#8217;t gonna be up cheering with all their heart. Timeouts KILL the energy at Staples. There was only one time in the game when the crowd actually got loud and that was only cuz the scoreboard told them to. I would love to have LA fans be as loud/passionate as golden state fans, or sacramento fans a few years ago.</p>
<p>The music selection at Staples Center is terrible. Safe, innocuous and totally crap.</p>
<p>The half court short in between the 3rd and 4th quarters by the fan looking to win some cash was awful. It looked like a hooked golf shot. It was way left. I felt bad for the guy. He got a substantial boo.</p>
<p>@64. Lamar got into an argument in the fourth quarter, when the game was pretty much sewn up. Kobe kept pushing him back towards half court so that he wouldn&#8217;t get a technical. I&#8217;m not sure why he was so angered.</p>
<p>Re: Bynum&#8217;s ejection. That was really confusing from the nosebleed seats. He and Oberto were tangled up but not looking at each other right at halfcourt. Also, Bynum had already knocked ginobili to the floor earlier in the game. And then all of a sudden there was a technical. Which I could understand. Although I echo the sentiments of wondering why it wasn&#8217;t a double T. Maybe Bynum started it. And then I have no idea why Bynum was so upset or what he said. Because it was actually a different official not near Andrew who gave the second one. He was standing right next to ginobili and I thought maybe Ginobili got a T for something. Bynum didn&#8217;t even seem like he was doing much to earn the second one. But after he got the second T is when he really exploded. Multiple Lakers held him back. I forgot to look at Phil&#8217;s reaction but it didn&#8217;t seem to phase him. This was the first point the crowd kind of got into it. A lot of boos when Finley was shooting the free throws, although, he made the second one and quieted the crowd down again. </p>
<p>In person, it seemed like the reffing was fairly consistent in letting physical contact near the basket go. Lots of times players would go to the basket and seem to get their arms hit and no whistle would sound. Ginobili and Luke were the most frequent victims of this pattern.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if they showed it on TV, but I was a little bit amazed that Craig Sager got an interview with Phil Jackson during a time out or between a quarter. You&#8217;d think he was busy drawing up plays or thinking about adjustments.</p>
<p>Who was this Darius Washington character? He was no Tony Parker but quite passable as an NBA player.</p>
<p>Lakers did a good job clamping down on Ginobili but were fortunate to have the Spurs miss A LOT of open looks. They had to scramble a lot on defense. A healthy Spurs team would have killed the Lakers with all those open shots.</p>
<p>Sasha and Kobe kept leaving Bruce Bowen open for threes. I think that hurt them a lot, especially when they were just sagging off, not actually giving rotation help.</p>
<p>I agree with the sentiments that Kobe took a lot of ill-advised shots. In person you can tell how difficult/low-percentage a lot of his fadeaways are. Many of them came up short. I also agree that the Lakers were shooting jump shots without looking inside first. Our players aren&#8217;t jump-shooters. Much more successful around the basket.</p>
<p>Lamar&#8217;s game didn&#8217;t seem as bad in person as many previous comments have complained about. He was getting a lot of rebounds, playing active defense. Basically having a pretty typical Lamar game. The only knocks I had were the missed dunk early in the game and the ugly three balls.</p>
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		<title>By: ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this quote form Kobe

&quot;Not much to say. He lost his cool for a second, he got tossed,&quot; Bryant said. &quot;Andrew should be proud - first ejection, national TV, he went out in a blaze of glory.&quot;

http://www.nba.com/games/20071214/LALGSW/preview.html?nav=scoreboardhome</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this quote form Kobe</p>
<p>&#8220;Not much to say. He lost his cool for a second, he got tossed,&#8221; Bryant said. &#8220;Andrew should be proud &#8211; first ejection, national TV, he went out in a blaze of glory.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nba.com/games/20071214/LALGSW/preview.html?nav=scoreboardhome" rel="nofollow">http://www.nba.com/games/20071214/LALGSW/preview.html?nav=scoreboardhome</a></p>
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		<title>By: A-Hole Carolla</title>
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		<dc:creator>A-Hole Carolla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d still consider this a good game for us.  We played well enough to win, not all that great throughout but still were able to put the clamps on at the end.  With the long break since the team played last there had to be some rust.  The Spurs are championship stock and made an expected strong stand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d still consider this a good game for us.  We played well enough to win, not all that great throughout but still were able to put the clamps on at the end.  With the long break since the team played last there had to be some rust.  The Spurs are championship stock and made an expected strong stand.</p>
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		<title>By: kwame a.</title>
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		<dc:creator>kwame a.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>71- Craig, 100% agree with you. When Lamar had a big second half (13 pts) he was on the block, taking advantage of Ginobli (6&#039;5). Also, Lamar is an inconsistent shooter, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s mental, I think it&#039;s mechanical. When Lamar is squared up AND steps into his shot (as opposed to his infamous pull up, fadeaway mid-range shot) he is a good shooter. I guess that is mental too, because he can&#039;t discipline himself to square up and step into his shot everytime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>71- Craig, 100% agree with you. When Lamar had a big second half (13 pts) he was on the block, taking advantage of Ginobli (6&#8217;5). Also, Lamar is an inconsistent shooter, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s mental, I think it&#8217;s mechanical. When Lamar is squared up AND steps into his shot (as opposed to his infamous pull up, fadeaway mid-range shot) he is a good shooter. I guess that is mental too, because he can&#8217;t discipline himself to square up and step into his shot everytime.</p>
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