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		<title>By: Warren Wee Lim</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/12/30/game-preview-chat-the-boston-celtics/comment-page-2/#comment-385209</link>
		<dc:creator>Warren Wee Lim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 03:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr Ray, this is why I always say Lamar Odom has positive trade value around the league. The irony of the matter is, both targets at PF that the Lakers have could use Lamar the Goods being their man leading the break - Memphis and Indiana.

The new school of thought in coaching is: If your team does not have a legit star, you run. This is the part where old misfit Nellie becomes a renowned coach and dare I say the father of small ball. He has made something out of Matt Barnes and Monta Ellis, heck he has even made Al Harrington center.

In this thought, Memphis, lacking superstar complex from perennial lack of wins, resorts to the run and gun to put fans on the seats. This is an effective way to make the games more exciting and fun to watch regardless of outcome. They have also made a star out of this scheme and his name is Rudy Gay. 

With Gay&#039;s emergence, Memphis may feel that trading Pau Gasol for better fits may be justified already by the salary commitment and the search for better fits. The only thing that concerns me with a possible deal would be taking one or two of their bad contracts along with the classic PF we covet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Ray, this is why I always say Lamar Odom has positive trade value around the league. The irony of the matter is, both targets at PF that the Lakers have could use Lamar the Goods being their man leading the break &#8211; Memphis and Indiana.</p>
<p>The new school of thought in coaching is: If your team does not have a legit star, you run. This is the part where old misfit Nellie becomes a renowned coach and dare I say the father of small ball. He has made something out of Matt Barnes and Monta Ellis, heck he has even made Al Harrington center.</p>
<p>In this thought, Memphis, lacking superstar complex from perennial lack of wins, resorts to the run and gun to put fans on the seats. This is an effective way to make the games more exciting and fun to watch regardless of outcome. They have also made a star out of this scheme and his name is Rudy Gay. </p>
<p>With Gay&#8217;s emergence, Memphis may feel that trading Pau Gasol for better fits may be justified already by the salary commitment and the search for better fits. The only thing that concerns me with a possible deal would be taking one or two of their bad contracts along with the classic PF we covet.</p>
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		<title>By: drrayeye</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/12/30/game-preview-chat-the-boston-celtics/comment-page-2/#comment-384810</link>
		<dc:creator>drrayeye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 21:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(76) Kurt,

According to blogs in Memphis, there are standing offers from the Bobcats and Atlanta for Gasol.  There was an unacceptable offer from Chicago last year which hasn&#039;t appreciably changed.  Chicago does not have the pieces to fit Gasol&#039;s price tag.  Even if Chicago gave up Deng, it would overlap with Gay--the Memphis start over centerpiece.  Memphis would do the deal in a heartbeat if Chicago had Chandler to trade.

Right now, it&#039;s the proverbial rock and hard place. 

In Memphis, the first step would be to make a statement of what type of team they intend to build, then a plan, and then steps to execute that plan.  It would clearly be multiyear.

It appears that they would like a Phoenix style 8 player rotation team--with a few wrinkles added.   They&#039;d like a &quot;star&quot; to draw attendance. 

The old plan was to build around Gasol and Miller.  The current plan is around Conley, Guy, and Gasol.  Fans at Memphis have more and more channeled their unhappiness at Gasol.  Both Gasol and Miller have relatively costly long term contracts from the old plan.  

As the Lakers have found with Kwame and Lamar, it is hard to trade players with expensive contracts--and the Laker contracts are relatively short term.

Be careful about limiting assumptions about what Memphis might do given the complexity of their problems.

Both Gasol and Odom are misfits in their current situations who might do better somewhere else. 

That we know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(76) Kurt,</p>
<p>According to blogs in Memphis, there are standing offers from the Bobcats and Atlanta for Gasol.  There was an unacceptable offer from Chicago last year which hasn&#8217;t appreciably changed.  Chicago does not have the pieces to fit Gasol&#8217;s price tag.  Even if Chicago gave up Deng, it would overlap with Gay&#8211;the Memphis start over centerpiece.  Memphis would do the deal in a heartbeat if Chicago had Chandler to trade.</p>
<p>Right now, it&#8217;s the proverbial rock and hard place. </p>
<p>In Memphis, the first step would be to make a statement of what type of team they intend to build, then a plan, and then steps to execute that plan.  It would clearly be multiyear.</p>
<p>It appears that they would like a Phoenix style 8 player rotation team&#8211;with a few wrinkles added.   They&#8217;d like a &#8220;star&#8221; to draw attendance. </p>
<p>The old plan was to build around Gasol and Miller.  The current plan is around Conley, Guy, and Gasol.  Fans at Memphis have more and more channeled their unhappiness at Gasol.  Both Gasol and Miller have relatively costly long term contracts from the old plan.  </p>
<p>As the Lakers have found with Kwame and Lamar, it is hard to trade players with expensive contracts&#8211;and the Laker contracts are relatively short term.</p>
<p>Be careful about limiting assumptions about what Memphis might do given the complexity of their problems.</p>
<p>Both Gasol and Odom are misfits in their current situations who might do better somewhere else. </p>
<p>That we know.</p>
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		<title>By: JONESONTHENBA</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/12/30/game-preview-chat-the-boston-celtics/comment-page-2/#comment-384705</link>
		<dc:creator>JONESONTHENBA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lamar is a good fit for this team. He&#039;s never going to be a 20ppg scorer, but you&#039;re going to be hard pressed to find a guy that brings more than he brings on a nightly basis by trading him.  Everyone played very poorly against the Celts, yet everyone is just jumping on Lamar. Why? Relax folks...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lamar is a good fit for this team. He&#8217;s never going to be a 20ppg scorer, but you&#8217;re going to be hard pressed to find a guy that brings more than he brings on a nightly basis by trading him.  Everyone played very poorly against the Celts, yet everyone is just jumping on Lamar. Why? Relax folks&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: thriller</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/12/30/game-preview-chat-the-boston-celtics/comment-page-2/#comment-384702</link>
		<dc:creator>thriller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 18:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone catch the play where KG goes 1 on 1 with Bynum and:

1. makes a move to the basket from the left block
2.  Andrew gets a hand on the ball, partially blocking it
3.  While midair, KG manages to recover and hold onto the blocked shot and somehow put it in the hoop.

WTF was that!  I was with about 20 other people and everyone&#039;s jaws hit the floor in disbelief.  That man is a beast!

I, however, have a newfound hatred for the celtics.  I&#039;ve found myself liking em in recent years because they were young and scrappy, PP is a local dude, and they have some really good looking uniforms.  But now, it&#039;s ON!  Ray Allen is a punk and Paul Pierce gets no more love from Los Angeles !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone catch the play where KG goes 1 on 1 with Bynum and:</p>
<p>1. makes a move to the basket from the left block<br />
2.  Andrew gets a hand on the ball, partially blocking it<br />
3.  While midair, KG manages to recover and hold onto the blocked shot and somehow put it in the hoop.</p>
<p>WTF was that!  I was with about 20 other people and everyone&#8217;s jaws hit the floor in disbelief.  That man is a beast!</p>
<p>I, however, have a newfound hatred for the celtics.  I&#8217;ve found myself liking em in recent years because they were young and scrappy, PP is a local dude, and they have some really good looking uniforms.  But now, it&#8217;s ON!  Ray Allen is a punk and Paul Pierce gets no more love from Los Angeles !</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/12/30/game-preview-chat-the-boston-celtics/comment-page-2/#comment-384683</link>
		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 17:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, if I&#039;m Memphis and going to blow up my team and start to rebuild around youth, do I want Odom? No, I want to talk to Chicago again and get some of their young athletes. Odom is a lateral move for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, if I&#8217;m Memphis and going to blow up my team and start to rebuild around youth, do I want Odom? No, I want to talk to Chicago again and get some of their young athletes. Odom is a lateral move for them.</p>
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		<title>By: drrayeye</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2007/12/30/game-preview-chat-the-boston-celtics/comment-page-2/#comment-384678</link>
		<dc:creator>drrayeye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 17:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are the fates of Lamar Odom and Pau Gasol intertwined?  One player whose salary is almost identical to Lamar&#039;s is Pau Gasol, whose brother was drafted by the Lakers.  

Last year, the Memphis Grizzlies had a very bad start, fired their coach, and almost traded Pau Gasol to Chicago.  I&#039;ve been following them ever since.  They have a new coach, new style, and some new players this year.  They were hoping to make the playoffs.  Where do they stand?

This year is almost a repeat of last year:  the Grizz are 8-22.  Management has projected a 50 game observational period, but events may be forcing their hand.  Here&#039;s a short excerpt from a Grizz blog, 3 shades of Blue, on the topic, Business vs. Basketball:

&quot;Is Pau the problem? This is his 7th season in Memphis and he has been the best player every single season. However, as has been noted before, he is better suited to being the #2 option on a consistent playoff contender. Grizzlies fans long ago soured on him being the man who would lead them to the Promised Land -- have they now given up on him being suited up in Beale Street Blue altogether? If that is truly the case and the emergence of Rudy Gay, as well as the potential of Michael Conley are no longer enough to persuade fans to come out to games or that Pau can be a vital part of future success, then he must be moved....and soon. From a business perspective, if something is obviously negatively affecting attendance, then that issue should be dealt with ASAP. Last year, it resulted in the firing of Mike Fratello -- this year it could be the trade of Pau. As Geoff Calkins noted and Gary Parrish recently told me, trading Pau could be the &quot;shake-up move&quot; that puts the team on the right path to title contention.&quot;

Isn&#039;t this the way that some of us are talking about Lamar and an NBA championship?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are the fates of Lamar Odom and Pau Gasol intertwined?  One player whose salary is almost identical to Lamar&#8217;s is Pau Gasol, whose brother was drafted by the Lakers.  </p>
<p>Last year, the Memphis Grizzlies had a very bad start, fired their coach, and almost traded Pau Gasol to Chicago.  I&#8217;ve been following them ever since.  They have a new coach, new style, and some new players this year.  They were hoping to make the playoffs.  Where do they stand?</p>
<p>This year is almost a repeat of last year:  the Grizz are 8-22.  Management has projected a 50 game observational period, but events may be forcing their hand.  Here&#8217;s a short excerpt from a Grizz blog, 3 shades of Blue, on the topic, Business vs. Basketball:</p>
<p>&#8220;Is Pau the problem? This is his 7th season in Memphis and he has been the best player every single season. However, as has been noted before, he is better suited to being the #2 option on a consistent playoff contender. Grizzlies fans long ago soured on him being the man who would lead them to the Promised Land &#8212; have they now given up on him being suited up in Beale Street Blue altogether? If that is truly the case and the emergence of Rudy Gay, as well as the potential of Michael Conley are no longer enough to persuade fans to come out to games or that Pau can be a vital part of future success, then he must be moved&#8230;.and soon. From a business perspective, if something is obviously negatively affecting attendance, then that issue should be dealt with ASAP. Last year, it resulted in the firing of Mike Fratello &#8212; this year it could be the trade of Pau. As Geoff Calkins noted and Gary Parrish recently told me, trading Pau could be the &#8220;shake-up move&#8221; that puts the team on the right path to title contention.&#8221;</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t this the way that some of us are talking about Lamar and an NBA championship?</p>
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		<title>By: harold</title>
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		<dc:creator>harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 11:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lamar is, still our second best player IMHO.  It&#039;s just that our standards for him are pretty darn hard to meet.  Bynum is still limited in both offense and defense, and saying he&#039;s our #2 option is absurd at this point.  Sure he had a few good games when the opponents aren&#039;t focusing on him, but it&#039;s not always &#039;the team not looking for him&#039; that causes his lack of touches.  That&#039;s something Shaq is allowed to say, not Bynum.

Bynum&#039;s production mostly comes after he gets into position, which basically means that he can&#039;t create on his own.  Against a good defensive team that can quickly double him, he&#039;ll just accumulate fouls and TOs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lamar is, still our second best player IMHO.  It&#8217;s just that our standards for him are pretty darn hard to meet.  Bynum is still limited in both offense and defense, and saying he&#8217;s our #2 option is absurd at this point.  Sure he had a few good games when the opponents aren&#8217;t focusing on him, but it&#8217;s not always &#8216;the team not looking for him&#8217; that causes his lack of touches.  That&#8217;s something Shaq is allowed to say, not Bynum.</p>
<p>Bynum&#8217;s production mostly comes after he gets into position, which basically means that he can&#8217;t create on his own.  Against a good defensive team that can quickly double him, he&#8217;ll just accumulate fouls and TOs.</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 09:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the biggest problem with lamar is that he isn&#039;t one hundred percent healthy.  surgeries take time to fully recover from.  he also has an injury on his non shooting hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the biggest problem with lamar is that he isn&#8217;t one hundred percent healthy.  surgeries take time to fully recover from.  he also has an injury on his non shooting hand.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 07:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t stand having Lamar Odom as the #2 option on this team. I truly believe that in order of importance and significance to the current Lakers team, he is at best #5. We all know Kobe is #1 on the team. Andrew Bynum has now made it clear that he is #2 and that he demands respect from his opponents. Derek Fisher is #3 to me because his veteran presence and knowledge of the game has proven to be a huge asset to this team. Unfortunately, at #4, I already am forced to put Trevor Ariza ahead of Lamar. We know that night in and night out Ariza will hustle on every play, he will have a few easy dunks, he will have some great cuts and open lay-ups, and he will even get a few offensive rebounds and steals, not to mention that he will play tough defense. Kwame and Farmar may even be more important to this current team than Lamar based on the fact that they are always reliable to come out and hold the fort down while Bynum and Fisher take their break. I don&#039;t remember the last time I heard that Lamar was a key role player. It&#039;s time for a trade.

Check out the latest post on www.laballtalk.com about the upcoming year and the seemingly unavoidable Lamar Odom trade coming up soon... hopefully!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t stand having Lamar Odom as the #2 option on this team. I truly believe that in order of importance and significance to the current Lakers team, he is at best #5. We all know Kobe is #1 on the team. Andrew Bynum has now made it clear that he is #2 and that he demands respect from his opponents. Derek Fisher is #3 to me because his veteran presence and knowledge of the game has proven to be a huge asset to this team. Unfortunately, at #4, I already am forced to put Trevor Ariza ahead of Lamar. We know that night in and night out Ariza will hustle on every play, he will have a few easy dunks, he will have some great cuts and open lay-ups, and he will even get a few offensive rebounds and steals, not to mention that he will play tough defense. Kwame and Farmar may even be more important to this current team than Lamar based on the fact that they are always reliable to come out and hold the fort down while Bynum and Fisher take their break. I don&#8217;t remember the last time I heard that Lamar was a key role player. It&#8217;s time for a trade.</p>
<p>Check out the latest post on <a href="http://www.laballtalk.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.laballtalk.com</a> about the upcoming year and the seemingly unavoidable Lamar Odom trade coming up soon&#8230; hopefully!</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 07:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone keeps saying Odom does not step up in the big games, but he has been maybe the best Laker the last two years in the playoffs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone keeps saying Odom does not step up in the big games, but he has been maybe the best Laker the last two years in the playoffs.</p>
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