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		<title>By: drrayeye</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2008/01/14/sonics-preview/comment-page-2/#comment-402418</link>
		<dc:creator>drrayeye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 23:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(82)Pacio,

I&#039;ve long felt that Lamar was a misfit in the Laker&#039;s system.  That doesn&#039;t make him a misfit in every system.  Steve Nash was traded twice before he found his niche in Phoenix.  Besides, he just has two years left on his contract, so he could just be an interim player for them while they transition.  

Sometimes players are traded for business reasons.  In the case of Pau, it may have something to do with expectations, team identity, and fan attitude--and his long term ciontract.  See what you think of this Memphis fan:

&quot;The team is doing a little better. I still think , let me take that back, I KNOW we need to trade PAU immediately. I admire his effort the last couple of games, but as it was stated by Jaybyrd, he could have been doing that [all along]!! 

All of his efforts now should be used as resume&#039; for other teams.  I just don&#039;t think we will ever get over the hump as long as Pau and Mike are still Griz!! 

Mike is a bust and he and Pau play a two man game to help each other stay in the league. I think that these guys have one foot in the basketball grave. We need to look at getting rid of them immediately before its a done deal. Nobody wants Pau but a couple of writers on this blog ( you guys can have him, let him be a 7ft waiter or something) He is just not cut out for real NBA basketball. It was a joke to make him an All Star. Think I&#039;m joking? Go back and look at the weakest representation of Memphis I have ever seen. 

I would take a third round draft pick for him TODAY!!!! That&#039;s how bad he needs to go. I dare anyone to give reasons for him to stay!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(82)Pacio,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve long felt that Lamar was a misfit in the Laker&#8217;s system.  That doesn&#8217;t make him a misfit in every system.  Steve Nash was traded twice before he found his niche in Phoenix.  Besides, he just has two years left on his contract, so he could just be an interim player for them while they transition.  </p>
<p>Sometimes players are traded for business reasons.  In the case of Pau, it may have something to do with expectations, team identity, and fan attitude&#8211;and his long term ciontract.  See what you think of this Memphis fan:</p>
<p>&#8220;The team is doing a little better. I still think , let me take that back, I KNOW we need to trade PAU immediately. I admire his effort the last couple of games, but as it was stated by Jaybyrd, he could have been doing that [all along]!! </p>
<p>All of his efforts now should be used as resume&#8217; for other teams.  I just don&#8217;t think we will ever get over the hump as long as Pau and Mike are still Griz!! </p>
<p>Mike is a bust and he and Pau play a two man game to help each other stay in the league. I think that these guys have one foot in the basketball grave. We need to look at getting rid of them immediately before its a done deal. Nobody wants Pau but a couple of writers on this blog ( you guys can have him, let him be a 7ft waiter or something) He is just not cut out for real NBA basketball. It was a joke to make him an All Star. Think I&#8217;m joking? Go back and look at the weakest representation of Memphis I have ever seen. </p>
<p>I would take a third round draft pick for him TODAY!!!! That&#8217;s how bad he needs to go. I dare anyone to give reasons for him to stay!!</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2008/01/14/sonics-preview/comment-page-2/#comment-402221</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With only one game in the next 6 days the Lakers will have some time to adjust  to playing without Bynum. Another issue is Kwame&#039;s conditioning. He iappears to be playing in slow motion and needs to lay of the cheeseburgers and get in shape. 

I think the team can still score plenty of points, but it needs to shore up the interior defense and rebound better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With only one game in the next 6 days the Lakers will have some time to adjust  to playing without Bynum. Another issue is Kwame&#8217;s conditioning. He iappears to be playing in slow motion and needs to lay of the cheeseburgers and get in shape. </p>
<p>I think the team can still score plenty of points, but it needs to shore up the interior defense and rebound better.</p>
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		<title>By: Pacio</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2008/01/14/sonics-preview/comment-page-2/#comment-402090</link>
		<dc:creator>Pacio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>81. Didn&#039;t see too much of the first half, but in the second they played very much like the lakers of old, getting destroyed by that future hall of fame pick n&#039; roll combination of ridnour and collison. they&#039;d finally been figuring out how defend the high pick in roll with andrew, but lamar/kwame and fish were getting killed by it every time down last night for a long stretch of the game.
70. drrayeye- i know i&#039;m a new guy here and i&#039;ve been reading your posts for some time, and frankly i did feel kind of stupid to be trying to lay down the law. and i do believe you that memphis wants to ship out gasol and start over. but really, who wants lamar right now? judging by the comments here his own fan base doesn&#039;t think too much of him. i like lamar as a number 3-4 option.  of course, much of it has to do with the system he plays in. put the ball regularly in his hands in a looser system and maybe he becomes that semi-all-star again. but nba gms are a spineless bunch that never make trades on maybes and projections. besides what makes sense for individual trade partners, gasol and deng have much much more trade value than lamar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>81. Didn&#8217;t see too much of the first half, but in the second they played very much like the lakers of old, getting destroyed by that future hall of fame pick n&#8217; roll combination of ridnour and collison. they&#8217;d finally been figuring out how defend the high pick in roll with andrew, but lamar/kwame and fish were getting killed by it every time down last night for a long stretch of the game.<br />
70. drrayeye- i know i&#8217;m a new guy here and i&#8217;ve been reading your posts for some time, and frankly i did feel kind of stupid to be trying to lay down the law. and i do believe you that memphis wants to ship out gasol and start over. but really, who wants lamar right now? judging by the comments here his own fan base doesn&#8217;t think too much of him. i like lamar as a number 3-4 option.  of course, much of it has to do with the system he plays in. put the ball regularly in his hands in a looser system and maybe he becomes that semi-all-star again. but nba gms are a spineless bunch that never make trades on maybes and projections. besides what makes sense for individual trade partners, gasol and deng have much much more trade value than lamar.</p>
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		<title>By: ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t see the game last night but I want to know what was wrong with the Lakers defense? Did they just take a night off because it was the Sonics?  I hope they pick up their defense against PHX.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t see the game last night but I want to know what was wrong with the Lakers defense? Did they just take a night off because it was the Sonics?  I hope they pick up their defense against PHX.</p>
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		<title>By: 1331</title>
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		<dc:creator>1331</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love it when people talk positively about this situation.

I am sure PJ deserves 12mio a year.
He will find an answer to this problem.

I also agree that we might not be ready for a new game plan today, since we just lose bynum yesterday and on a back2back game.

so finger crossed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love it when people talk positively about this situation.</p>
<p>I am sure PJ deserves 12mio a year.<br />
He will find an answer to this problem.</p>
<p>I also agree that we might not be ready for a new game plan today, since we just lose bynum yesterday and on a back2back game.</p>
<p>so finger crossed.</p>
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		<title>By: Goo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>76, that kind of reminds me of the year Derek Fisher was hurt after breaking his foot (2003?) when he came back in time for the stretch run looking more chiseled than Michelangelo&#039;s David and shooting something like 50% from 3 in the playoffs...perhaps Bynum can add a 20 footer to his arsenal? :-O</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>76, that kind of reminds me of the year Derek Fisher was hurt after breaking his foot (2003?) when he came back in time for the stretch run looking more chiseled than Michelangelo&#8217;s David and shooting something like 50% from 3 in the playoffs&#8230;perhaps Bynum can add a 20 footer to his arsenal? :-O</p>
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		<title>By: MacBSlick</title>
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		<dc:creator>MacBSlick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thought Id post this from Kevin Dings Blog. Good read.

â€œLamar just had an awful nightâ€
January 15th, 2008 Â· Post a Comment Â· posted by kding
Lamar Odom was getting dressed in the KeyArena visiting locker room afterward, smiled and hollered over to Luke Walton a few doors down: â€œFeels great to win a ballgame like that, doesnâ€™t it?â€ Odom had shot 3 for 15 from the field; Walton had shot 1 for 6.

Kobe Bryant bailed everyone and the shaky defense and rebounding out, though, to get the Lakers the victory. Bryant stepped up his game in a need situation for his team after news of Andrew Bynumâ€™s extended absence, playing through illness. Odom couldnâ€™t do the same (he was so tired and ineffective in overtime that Phil Jackson benched Odom for Ronny Turiaf and brought Odom back only after Turiaf fouled out), and thatâ€™s why he remains where he remains in the NBA pecking order as a non-star.

Odom was acquired to Bryantâ€™s No. 2, but the team has run smoother with Bynum showing more tenacity in that role. Bynumâ€™s injury opens the door of opportunity yet again for Odom to give the Lakers more. And Jackson said he will need Odom to do more, especially by dominating in rebounding, but Odom will have more scoring chances, for sure.

Is he fully aware of the situation?

On Monday night, the first quarter ended with Bryant driving into a collapsing Seattle defense, getting stopped and kicking the ball out to Odom, who was caught watching and maybe even admiring as Bryant operated. This has happened all too frequently in their three-plus seasons together. Odom caught the pass in a non-threat position, faked a pass and then passed too late for Jordan Farmar to get off a shot before time expired.

Odom had a far worse moment late in overtime when he forced a 3-point shot that left Farmar wincing and turning away on the bench before the ball even caromed off the rim. (It was yet the latest example of Farmarâ€™s wonderful feel for right and wrong on the court, and I think youâ€™ll see Farmar have some really huge efforts for the Lakers while Bynum is out, but thatâ€™s another story.) Odom had passed up a 3-pointer on the previous possession to set up Derek Fisherâ€™s 3-point attempt, and Fisher had missed, so this time Odom just fired away despite clearly not being sure he should.

Odom finished with six points in 45:33 of play when his team scored 123 points. Rather hard to do. Afterward, Jackson said: â€œLamar just had an awful night.

(Mac)We need Lamar and Luke to step up thier play or its going to be a looonnnggg 8 weeks. These guys need some of Kobes fire (desire to win). Thats all I got to say</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought Id post this from Kevin Dings Blog. Good read.</p>
<p>â€œLamar just had an awful nightâ€<br />
January 15th, 2008 Â· Post a Comment Â· posted by kding<br />
Lamar Odom was getting dressed in the KeyArena visiting locker room afterward, smiled and hollered over to Luke Walton a few doors down: â€œFeels great to win a ballgame like that, doesnâ€™t it?â€ Odom had shot 3 for 15 from the field; Walton had shot 1 for 6.</p>
<p>Kobe Bryant bailed everyone and the shaky defense and rebounding out, though, to get the Lakers the victory. Bryant stepped up his game in a need situation for his team after news of Andrew Bynumâ€™s extended absence, playing through illness. Odom couldnâ€™t do the same (he was so tired and ineffective in overtime that Phil Jackson benched Odom for Ronny Turiaf and brought Odom back only after Turiaf fouled out), and thatâ€™s why he remains where he remains in the NBA pecking order as a non-star.</p>
<p>Odom was acquired to Bryantâ€™s No. 2, but the team has run smoother with Bynum showing more tenacity in that role. Bynumâ€™s injury opens the door of opportunity yet again for Odom to give the Lakers more. And Jackson said he will need Odom to do more, especially by dominating in rebounding, but Odom will have more scoring chances, for sure.</p>
<p>Is he fully aware of the situation?</p>
<p>On Monday night, the first quarter ended with Bryant driving into a collapsing Seattle defense, getting stopped and kicking the ball out to Odom, who was caught watching and maybe even admiring as Bryant operated. This has happened all too frequently in their three-plus seasons together. Odom caught the pass in a non-threat position, faked a pass and then passed too late for Jordan Farmar to get off a shot before time expired.</p>
<p>Odom had a far worse moment late in overtime when he forced a 3-point shot that left Farmar wincing and turning away on the bench before the ball even caromed off the rim. (It was yet the latest example of Farmarâ€™s wonderful feel for right and wrong on the court, and I think youâ€™ll see Farmar have some really huge efforts for the Lakers while Bynum is out, but thatâ€™s another story.) Odom had passed up a 3-pointer on the previous possession to set up Derek Fisherâ€™s 3-point attempt, and Fisher had missed, so this time Odom just fired away despite clearly not being sure he should.</p>
<p>Odom finished with six points in 45:33 of play when his team scored 123 points. Rather hard to do. Afterward, Jackson said: â€œLamar just had an awful night.</p>
<p>(Mac)We need Lamar and Luke to step up thier play or its going to be a looonnnggg 8 weeks. These guys need some of Kobes fire (desire to win). Thats all I got to say</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris Webber would be a great contributor to the team at this team. With all that veteran experience he can only make the team stronger. He would also be the only post scoring player that the Lakers would have that is truly capable of posting up back to the basket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris Webber would be a great contributor to the team at this team. With all that veteran experience he can only make the team stronger. He would also be the only post scoring player that the Lakers would have that is truly capable of posting up back to the basket.</p>
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		<title>By: samu</title>
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		<dc:creator>samu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>someone tell drew to start lifting since he finally got some sparetime now, in 8 weeks he could return a-al-DHoward and do some damage to rims around the league.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>someone tell drew to start lifting since he finally got some sparetime now, in 8 weeks he could return a-al-DHoward and do some damage to rims around the league.</p>
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		<title>By: pgblooded</title>
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		<dc:creator>pgblooded</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Dude that Abides -  I would like to thank you as well for the insights on Drew&#039;s injuries.  It greatly benefit my views regarding Drew&#039;s immediate return.   I have to be honest, I&#039;d rather have him return the soonest possible time so he will not lose his rythym.  

Should they decide to let Drew heal via the full route, I hope he can at least practice other offensive moves that will benefit his game once he returns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Dude that Abides &#8211;  I would like to thank you as well for the insights on Drew&#8217;s injuries.  It greatly benefit my views regarding Drew&#8217;s immediate return.   I have to be honest, I&#8217;d rather have him return the soonest possible time so he will not lose his rythym.  </p>
<p>Should they decide to let Drew heal via the full route, I hope he can at least practice other offensive moves that will benefit his game once he returns.</p>
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