Pau Gasol Traded To Lakers

Kurt —  February 1, 2008

The Memphis Commercial Appeal is reporting that Pau Gasol has been traded to the Los Angeles Lakers for Kwame Brown, Javaris Crittenton and first round picks in 2008 and 2010. If this is true, this is a huge win for the Lakers. Updates will be flowing as they come in.

UPDATE# 1: The LA Times now confirms it.

UPDATE — Pau Gasol Scouting Report.

I’m doing this on the fly and there likely will be more updates as the day goes on, but here is your first blush.

He is 7-0, 260 and has that beard made famous by Serpico.

On offense, Gasol has the kind of well-rounded game that seems to come out of Europe. He is shooting 50.4% (eFG%) overall — 55% of his shots are classified as “Jumpers” and his shooting 40% on those, very respectable for someone his size. In close his shooting percentage jumps to 66.3%. He can pass the ball well — 13.7% of his possessions used end in assist for someone else. He doesn’t turn the ball over much (just 9.4% of possessions). He moves well without the ball.

So far this season he as asked to defend opposing centers almost exclusively, according to 82games.com. Those centers are shooting just 48.5%, with a slightly above average PER of 16.8. Gasol is not a great rebounder, but he doesn’t need to be when the Lakers have Bynum and Odom on the floor.

Here’s how Henry at TrueHoop saw it this morning:

As Kurt Rambis explained the other day, a key element of the triangle is that, thanks to spacing, movement, and observation, every Laker should be eligible to receive a pass at all times.

That lets the offense quickly identify and attack weak spots in the defense, wherever they may be. And a mobile seven-footer who can turn just about any defensive mistake into a bucket would be an attractive option to mix in with Kobe Bryant, Lamar Odom, and Andrew Bynum. As the ball moves around that offense there are an infinite number of ways the Lakers might end up with a good shot.

While Andrew Bynum is out, Gasol becomes the go-to big man, who might keep the team afloat in the tough Western standings. When Bynum returns, the triangle and all the attention defenses pay to Kobe Bryant just might keep the Lakers from the Zach Randolph/Eddy Curry double post conundrum. One of them would have a makeable shot every time down the floor. A system with actual ball movement (as distinct from New York) might help the scorers actually get the ball when and where they can use it.

UPDATE #2: According to ESPN.com, Aaron McKie is part of this deal to make the salaries match, and will be bought out. Man, I need his retirement plan. Also part of the deal is Marc Gasol, the younger brother of Pau, making it the very rare trade of brothers.

UPDATE #3: I’ll be throwing up links all day, here’s the thoughts from personal favorite KD at Yahoo:

My initial thought? The Lakers are going to win a championship.

My second thought? The Lakers are going to win a championship.

Why can’t I break away from that thought? They probably won’t win a championship, but it’s an argument I’m having a tough time talking myself out of right now.

Gasol can play. He can really, really play. He’ll be perfect in the apex of Los Angeles’ Triangle Offense, hitting cutters with passes and making it easier on himself to score in the low or high post as opposing defenses try desperately to keep up with all the off-ball movement.

Gasol can’t defend much, but in a long-armed lineup with Andrew Bynum, Lamar Odom, Kobe Bryant, and Derek Fisher; this won’t matter.

Another favorite TZ (Tom Ziller) has great stuff up over at Fanhouse.

The front court lineup now in Memphis: Kwame Brown, Darko, Jason Collins. Wow that’s a lot of guys who can’t score. And poor Crittenton is now on the back of a bench of a team with too many guards. That roster is going to see a lot of shakeup.

UPDATE #4: Damn, it’s a good day to be a Lakers fan. Just enjoy this. Moments like this are what make being a fan so much fun.

Just wanted to say that.

UPDATE #5: First, John Hollinger weighs in, says this is better than any Kidd deal, and call the Lakers the favorites in the West when healthy. It’s an insider piece, so pay for it, but here are the two key graphs for me:

Yes, he’s a little soft. He’s also one of the quickest 7-footers in the league and can shoot, handle and pass. That last item is important — he’ll share the ball and play nice with Kobe, and he’ll be very effective from the high post in the triangle while Andrew Bynum takes the low block.

As for the soft part, that should be a lot less of an issue now that he’s finally surrounded by big guys who can handle the dirty work. His softness was a much bigger problem on a Memphis team laden with other softies than it will be if Andrew Bynum and Ronny Turiaf have his back

And now a quick thought from commenter James Hastings:

“When was the last time a team’s worst player was traded for another team’s best player?”


Kurt

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310 responses to Pau Gasol Traded To Lakers

  1. Wow, I am blown away by this trade. I can not begin to apologize to Mitch Kupchak for attempting the “fire Mitch Kupchak” campaign on other sites before I found this one.

    Mitch Kupchak for GM of the year!

    Do you think this trade was in the works and that is why Kobe was so calm after the 1 point loss to Detroit?

    Oh and Lamar should be a bit more consistent now, as a Laker he historically plays crappy until the trade deadline
    has passed.

    Kobe will be MVP this year, we will see how great of a player he really is starting, well today we won right!

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  2. anyone can confirm how this trade and laker’s salary cap situation will affect our chances to renew bynum and farmar contracts?

    this is the only downside i’m afraid of…although mitch could trade odom for high draft pick later on to save some salary cap space….

    anyone knows the details?
    thanks

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  3. The Dude Abides February 1, 2008 at 9:09 pm

    Chise, you forgot to mention that the Lakers were able to stink during the 2004-05 season and fall to the #10 spot in the 2005 draft, and get their center for the next 15 years. So, the Lakers were able to turn Shaq into Odom, Bynum, Gasol, and Farmar. Of course, we had to endure 2 1/2 seasons of Kwame and a few years of Brian Grant’s slowly expiring contract. But today, it all feels worth it. Shaq never would have gotten back into playing shape for those first two years if he had stayed with the Lakers.

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  4. @202: Since they drafted Bynum and Farmar, they can outbid anyone and go over the cap to re-sign them. The only impact would be salary cap related.

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  5. Sorry…I meant “luxury tax” related.

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  6. @201 That’s why everyone is saying they likely will trade odom in the offseason, they can resign Bynum and Farmar, but it will put them even more over the cap of which they will need to pay dollar for dollar in luxary tax.

    Then again, given the likelyhood of this team reaching the finals for the next couple years, they might take the hit and make up the money in the finals.

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  7. The Dude Abides February 1, 2008 at 9:22 pm

    Mike re Stern: he’s going to be really conflicted if the Lakers play the Spurs in the playoffs again. What happens if Bowen commits a dirty foul on Kobe, causing Bynum, Farmar, Duncan, and Odoka to leave their benches? How can he suspend the two Lakers and not suspend the two Spurs without it appearing obvious that his personal friendship with the Spurs ownership is causing him to make biased decisions? I suppose he could suspend Bowen an extra game, say that the two Lakers ventured 15 feet from the bench, and say that the two Spurs only got as far away from their bench as 12 feet. Then he could laugh, and force the Sonics out of Seattle for his pal Clay Bennett (former Spurs owner).

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  8. UNBELIEVABLE…..

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  9. from pau s hometown February 1, 2008 at 9:33 pm

    I m writing these lines near from where Gasol was born.
    Dont worry about that haters talking trash about Gasol s softness.I have watched him play since he was sixteen,first with his club(F.C.Barcelona) that is also the best soccer club in the world.Then with our national team,that he has succefully leade to a gold medal in World s Championship and several silver medals in Europe s Championship.And at the end with this %%$%%%%% Grizzlies.He worked hard to put a loosy team in play offs for 3 consecutive years averaging almost 20/10 every year and despite of that fact they have never treated him well (press and local fans).What they did expect? He have done too much playing all last year(remember Iverson????).Just wait a few games and you will see the real potential of Pau Gasol playing at 100%.And more good news for you all,he is also a good man who never creates troubles and always thinks in team first.Remember that sentence:
    “THIS IS THE DAY WHEN KOBE FOUND HIS PIPPEN”
    As for me I m in heaven,because i was born in 1976 and I started to love this game with Magic,Kareem and Pat more than 20 years ago.I have cryed tears of joy today(Literally)
    I expect you forgive my imperfect english,i will try to improve because i m going to be a daily visitor of this web starting today.
    GOOD LUCK PAU,my friend and…
    GO LAKERS GO¡¡¡¡¡

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  10. The only thing I worry slightly about is Gasol’s playing with the Spanish national team. He is such a loyal guy that he plays every summer. I wonder if the FO will put some limitations on that…(I’m aware Kobe will also be playing, but Gasol’s been hurt b/f in international competition).

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  11. The Lakers wouldn’t have made this trade if they didn’t think they could resign Bynum. And, personally, I don’t buy this Ric Bucher B.S. about Bynum being out for the rest of the season. As many have already pointed out, Bucher has been wrong about everything in regards to the Lakers and seems to make up his own “scoops” in order to appear like he is better connected than he actually is. I mean, honestly, if you were a Laker official who had any insight into Bynum’s condition, why would you ever talk to Ric Bucher about it?

    As for the Gasol trade:

    When healthy, the Lakers now have 3 players who demand a double team (Bryant, Gasol, Bynum)… and all 3 of them play at complimentary positions in the triangle. Despite Gasol’s many other talents, his passing could be the edge for us. Cutters like Ariza and shooters like Farmar and Sasha will benefit from this trade as much as anyone. And Kobe Bryant just went from impossible to gaurd to “Michael-Jordan-impossible-to-gaurd”. Seriously, what are defenses going to do when Gasol learns the triangle? Leave him open? Leave Bynum open? It boggles the mind.

    Mitch can throw up GM airballs for a decade, but I don’t want to hear another aspersion cast upon this wonderful man until Kobe’s jersey is hanging in the Staples Center.

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  12. carter blanchard February 1, 2008 at 9:52 pm

    I’m still giddy. I really skipped a day of work because I was too excited about a basketball trade. Shame on me.

    And that Toronto win was a lot of fun. Just some absurd Kobe plays.

    I’m not too much for conspiracy theories, but the two most storied franchises in the NBA pull off blockbuster trades that make them instant favorites in their conferences in the same year? Stern has to be stoked.

    Also, this “what to do with LO” and “is LO too expensive a 4th option” stuff cracks me up. If these are our biggest worries, we’re in terrific shape. Odom has to be the most talented 4th option I can remember ever seeing. Can anyone think of one better? Top that off with the fact that we have one of the most productive, successful benches in the league and you just can’t help but be giddy to be a Laker fan right now.

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  13. The Dude Abides February 1, 2008 at 9:52 pm

    Bienvenidos, aficianados de baloncesta espanol. Los aficianados de los Lakers saben que Pau no es suave. El hombre es un ganador, y estamos muy, muy feliz!

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  14. carter blanchard February 1, 2008 at 9:55 pm

    Sorry for the double, but the last thought I forgot to add, here’s hoping Kobe makes the decision to be Team USA Kobe and focus exclusively on distributing and defense. Outbursts like tonight are awfully fun, but I love it when he decides he’s going to focus all his energies on shutting down the opposition’s best player. With all the offensive firepower on our frontline, he might have that flexibility.

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  15. The Dude Abides February 1, 2008 at 9:56 pm

    Oops, I know I spelled aficionados wrong, but bienvenidos anyway. I’ve been to Europe a few times, and Barcelona is my favorite European city. Welcome to our new fans from Catalan, too.

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  16. from pau s hometown February 1, 2008 at 9:58 pm

    Thank you very much.211/212

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  17. The best problem we have is how to make out our lineup, espn analysts say that a lineup with bynum, gasol, and odom in the front-court is too big. Who’s gonna sit?

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  18. yay!!!!! i’m so happy right now. i couldn’t even believe it when i saw the news. now lakers are heading straight to the NBA finals. and payback with phoenix!!!! yay.

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  19. THis is the greatest trade the lakers have made in a long time!!!!! Im so excited and proud to be a Lakers fan.

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  20. holy christ. if this team stays together i sense another dynasty.

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  21. 1- It`s not such a robbery for Memphis, I can see the future around Gay, Conley, draft picks they’ll have next years and keeping Gasol wouldn’t make them get the playoffs and now they have cash to rebuild.
    2- Lakers are not gonna win this year.
    3- With Gasol Lakers will lose defense believe it or not, and he`s a little soft but on the other half of the court he’ll be great passing the ball, thats the thing i’m most excited about.
    4- And Odom will have to go next year in order to have enough money to keep Bynum…..worse defense

    And Im from Spain, i`m really happy to see Gasol with that colors, but i have some doubts….

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  22. I think everyone can stop playing armchair GM as we have the best GM in the league. There is no way we get rid of Odom, our best options are keeping him. He brings a lot to the table with this line up.

    As for Mitch, the two big mistakes he made- resigning Cook and trading basically Caron for Kwame- those have been completely erased with the additions of Ariza and Gasol, which turn out to be upgrades and better for the team.

    Mitch for Nobel Prize in Basketballology.

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  23. Cireland, I think the first option will be to make other teams adjust to our big lineup. If that doesn’t work during the course of the game, there is a multitude of adjustments the Lakers can make. If we need to make adjustments at small forward, we have Ariza, Walton (cough), Vlad, and even Kobe. The rest of the Western Conference must be really pissed at the Grizzlies.

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  24. I am a complete Lakers dork! I have never spent this much time on a forum for anything! It is great to see such excitement! This will be a day forever remembered.

    This is as big as the Celtic trade in my eyes

    If they all work together at a team and Kobe continues to be a “night to night” player as far as distributing the ball and making plays when needed or an offensive monster…..well….. We can be unbeatable. I cant wait till Andrew is back!

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  25. 1- It`s not such a robbery for Memphis, I can see the future around Gay, Conley, draft picks they’ll have next years and keeping Gasol wouldn’t make them get the playoffs and now they have cash to rebuild….theyll have to wait anyway….
    2- Lakers are not gonna win this year.
    3- With Gasol Lakers will lose defense believe it or not, and he`s a little soft but on the other half of the court he’ll be great passing the ball, thats the thing i’m most excited about.
    4- And Odom will have to go next year in order to have enough money to keep Bynum…..worse defense

    And Im from Spain, i`m really happy to see Gasol with that colors, but i have some doubts….

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  26. Showtime is back

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  27. Until Andrew gets back I suggest that Rony is the key to this team. His defense in the center is just tremendously annoying to other teams. They can’t get any rhythm. I think he may have proved something to Phil in tonight’s game and will be starting for the remainder of the road trip. When Pau joins the club he will be able to come in at PF and not have to concentrate on as much of the offense. Both players can switch of in t he high post and the Lakers will be almost impossible to defend.

    With Lamar at the 3/4 I foresee fewer passing problems, but I do worry about his leaving his man to crash the middle.

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  28. Lamar Odom is back! February 1, 2008 at 10:34 pm

    Patrick K, you are a jerk for taking pleasure in your sister’s misery. But that is funny.

    Kobe looked like he was having fun tonight. Maybe that’s his way of thanking the FO or maybe that’s his way of unofficially taking back his trade request. But Kobe did not look tired at all today. He looked rejuvenated. I haven’t seen him have so much fun this season. He dunked it like 5 times! He doesn’t do that anymore. He was just full of energy tonight. It was great to see.

    Can’t wait to see what this new team looks like when Drew and Ariza come back. And however good they may be, they’ll be even better next season.

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  29. First of all………I have never seen this site go past the 200 comment mark for one post. Amazing!

    Secondly……..Wow! What a great day……surprising trade, beautiful win! Not a bad start to Feb 2008.

    As for me…….here’s how I arrange the Lakers squad:

    Starting:
    Fisher
    Kobe
    Ariza
    Gasol
    Bynum

    Bench:
    Farmar
    Sasha
    Walton
    Lamar
    Turiaf

    Extra Bench:
    Coby Karl, Mbenga, Vlad Rad, Mihm

    Deepest, youngest, and versatile team in the league! We are set for a good championship competing run for next 4 years……wow……….what a difference one year makes.

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  30. Did anyone else see the interview with Mitch this evening? He said essentially that this trade was in no way made as a response to a delay in Andrew’s recovery, and that in fact everything appears to be on schedule, but that an opportunity just presented itself which he felt they needed to take. He was remiss to lose Crit, and hopes Brown finds success.

    I think Mitch is more of an insider than Ric.

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  31. cannot stop thinking about how this trade happened….
    it’s just a dream comes true…

    short term – long term, this trade will push lakers to the elite class…

    farmar, kobe, ariza, gasol, bynum as starters next year is pretty great

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  32. iPau ha llegado! (Pau has arrived!) February 1, 2008 at 10:51 pm

    !Hola Amigos del Lago!!!! (Hi friends from the Lake!)

    Estoy muy feliz de tomar parte en este club. Creo que vamos a ir muy lejos con este equipo. (I’m very happy to take part in this club. I think we’re gonna go far with this team)

    Espero que los fans de los lakers sean mas buenos que los de los Grizzlies. (I hope Laker fans are nicer than Grizzly fans.)

    Voy a estar escribiendo es este blog regularmente, ya que es el blog oficial de los Lakers. (I will be writing in this blog on a regular basis since it’s the official lakers blog.)

    iiiSaludos a todos mis amigos de Espana!!! Gracias por todo su apoyo. Gracias a todos los Lakers fans. !Salud! (Greetings to all my friends from Spain! Thanks for your support. Thanks to all Laker fans for your support. Cheers!)

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  33. How do you guys think the minutes will pan out because of our depth with everybody healthy. Okay Fisher, Bynum, Gasol, Odom, and Bryant as our starters. Walton is sent the the bench with Ariza, Turiaf, Farmar, Vujacic, Mihm, Radman, Karl, and possibly Mbenga. All of our bench players definately deserve minutes, but obviously some of them are going to sit more than their used too now. I think Mihm will be third stringer while Turiaf will be the backup C with some Pf time. Radman will strictly stay Pf. Farmar the backup Pg and Vujacic the backup Sg. Small foward will be tricky Ariza and Walton are both good. I really liked Ariza’s play before he got injured and Walton has been struggling. I wonder how those minutes will be split in the future.

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  34. sorry for the double quick post…but this is a great video comments by Stephen A. Jackson on ESPN
    http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/videopage?videoId=3226357&categoryId=2459788&n8pe6c=1

    it
    ‘s hilarious…although i feel for kwame…

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  35. carter blanchard February 1, 2008 at 11:04 pm

    iBienvenidos! Estoy de acuerdo que este es el blog oficial de los Lakers (aunque no es la verdad).. Somos muy simpaticos, y no podemos esperar ver Pau en Azul y Oro.

    I love the international flavor we’re getting here.

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  36. Great game tonight, and a team with 9 players beating a top eastern conference team on a back to back was overshadowed by that same winning team making an amazing trade. What a day it is to be a Lakers fan. I can’t even begin to explain how thrilling of a day it has been and how my smile has not yet left my face! You have to believe that if the Lakers are in the NBA Finals every year for the next five years that Jerry Buss won’t mind paying big salaries all that much. Us fans will give him plenty of money for tickets as long as we can continue winning.

    Also, Kupchak said the trade was in the works for 10 days, died yesterday, and they brought it back today!!! Mabe Kobe knew about the trade and thats why he wasn’t so upset with the recent losses to San Antonio, Dallas and Cleveland. He definitely knew about the potential of the trade during the game against the Cavs and looking back at it, he was probably thinking, “wat up Lebron, i’m gonna give u a win tonight cuz it really don’t matter to me. i’m gonna save my energy and still have a team with a better record cuz my GM is better than urz, na na na na na naaaa”

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  37. Does everyone know that NBA commercial where all Celtic fans around the world have “the best day ever” when they hear that they have acquired Kevin Garnet? Well… the NBA has a new commercial to make. If they don’t, then we will know that the NBA really does have it out for the Lakers and more obviously Kobe himself. Thank you for this day! We shall all remember February 01, 2008 as a great day in basketball history. It’s all in your hands now Kobe. Lead us to the promise land. Mew. I was born a Lakers fan and I have to be honest when I say that it’s been a very hard four years. Mitch… you were right, and we’re not worthy. 🙂 much love Laker nation.
    p.s. does anyone else refer to the Laker organization as “WE just lost, or WE just had a good game” and get made fun of? Story of my life.

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  38. Has anyone heard any quotes from Pau about it?

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  39. @ 223. Of course he was having fun. Kinda of like a kid on x-mas day, full of energy and joy for the gifts he received.

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  40. Those of you who already know and love Pau Gasol need to welcome him to his new NBA home in California. He may not fully realize how different it is.

    In Memphis, I’m sure he already learned how to find Kentucky Fried Chicken. Show him where he can get the best paella.

    He knows about English language newspapers in Memphis. Show him the Spanish language newspapers on the newsstands all over town in LA.

    Introduce him to our mayor–but find a stool for Mayor V to stand on first!

    Take him to San Juan Capistrano.

    Take him to the Pacific Ocean.

    The rest of us are ready to love him too.

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  41. Everyone needs to see something. I now love Stephen A Smith.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3226203

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  42. did you hear the rumor that the Suns and Heat want to trade Marion (and Diaw) for Shaq? seems the Lakers move has lit a fire under the Suns mgt butts, cause they know we got their number now.
    I really don’t think that trade will make them any better anyway.

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  43. 229, from his website:
    Pau wishes to be grateful to the Grizzlies after all these years in which “I grow up as a player, and I wish them the best for the future”. About his particular future, he says that “it’s amazing to be in a team full of history as the Lakers as, but not only because of their past, but mainly because of the present, playing along with Kobe Bryant is a privilege which is not easy for most of the players in this league and there will be lots of opportunities to be in the playoffs and do great things in this league as I always wished, wining and fighting”.

    http://www.paugasol.com/PauNews/Noticias%5CGasol,traded,Angeles,Lakers,19811,02,2008

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  44. Man can you believe a lineup of kobe, lamar, pau, bynum, and fisher at the starting five. I can’t think of another team that has dream team written all over them. This Lakers team is the 2nd youngest team in the NBA, which means they have ALOT of energy to run with teams like the suns. The only team that they have to get through is San Antonio, but that shouldn’t be a problem with the twin tower in bynum and pau.
    I am so happy to be a Lakers fan right now, I can’t stop but smile. Thanks Kupchak, you are GM of the YEAR

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  45. I have been a HC and GM at the minor league level for several years with a few banners in the gym. Not claiming to know 1/1000000th of an NBA GM or coach but heres my take:

    Bynum: Young, powerful, scores inside, finishes well, good hands, good IQ, plays D, and boards extremely well. An All-Star quality 5 for many years to come if healthy.

    Gasol: 27yo, talented, can score with his back to the basket and facing up. Has had to guard 5s far too much in Memphis. A natural Euro 4/5 that flourishes next to a big body so he can face up more, create, space the floor when necessary, and pass the ball. Not a great rebounder or banger for a 5 but stronger and more capable on the block or on the boards than 20 starting 4s in this league. His ability to give the squad another go-to guy when kobe gets his rest along with his ability to see the court, knock down open j’s, and help Drew clean up down low will really help Kobe when they’re on the court together.

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  46. Thanks!

    I went and read it in spanish and the translation is not incredibly accurate. On the part about playing with Kobe, it says in spanish it is a priviledge that very few players have… which makes much more sense.

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  47. Odom: The perfect 3/4 combo on a team with Bynum, Gasol, and Bryant. Long, quick, defends, runs the court, will D-board and push the break at 6’10 and long with the lefty dribble…. sees the court, can finish. A matchup nightmare against Dallas, San Antonio, and Phoenix…. The Lakers were one of the top scoring teams and were fairly strong on the glass before this trade… when Bynum comes back and everyone’s on the same page: Watch Out!

    With Kobe, the rest of the back court and the depth with some shooters (radman, vujucic) and defense and heart (Ariza, Turiaf) this looks like a title contender on paper with everyone healthy. Go LakeShow

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  48. This trade suggests Farmar is the future at the 1 and the guy is proving it. Fisher is a gritty winner that is the veteran pressence and clutch performer this teams needs to get the ring. The odd man out isn’t Odom; when Bynum and Ariza are back it’s going to cut into Luke. Odom will in essence be the longer, quicker, higher scoring, better defending version of Walton in the triangle at the 3 and Ariza is the defender needed behind him in my opinion. The best HC in the game will let that work itself out in practice i’m sure. Go Lakers!

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  49. Wow, giddiness all around.

    I can’t get quite that excited as to say we will win it all or start a dynasty. But this is a big day that changes our entire perspective.

    Alas, it’s one step at a time in my books. At least now everyone will start thinking championship. Imagine Phil Jackson’s team preparation when he thinks they are playing for a championship as compared to being a contender. He is a legend at starting training camp off as the beginning of a championship journey. Will be quite a different training camp for him this coming year as opposed to the turmoil and hip surgeries he has dealt with lately.

    It’s all in the mindframe, and this team finally has gotten rid of all the bad eggs that blew some chances for us over the past couple of years. Not many weaknesses on this still very young team.

    Let’s get Pau in the mix and get everyone back and see where this year goes. But i will say it’s next year that really piques my interest.

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  50. Graeme Flanagan February 2, 2008 at 1:04 am

    This news took a little while to reach me here in Australia, but as a Laker fan since 1980 I am absolutely delighted. I think the Lakers were looking pretty good anyway, but this surely makes them a very serious contender, both in 2008 and for several years to come. Andrew Bynum will just get better and Kobe is … Kobe. That’s a pretty impressive trio to build a team around.

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  51. Chris H — The Suns sending Marion/Diaw to Miami for Shaq would be best-case scenario … for us. And the rest of the West. No way Steve Kerr is that stupid. (And no way Sarver would want to take on Shaq’s contract.)

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  52. If this trade did nothing else it sure energized the troops. Man was everyone fresh for a back-to-back game, with 9 players, in sub-zero weather.

    What a blow-out 4th qtr.

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  53. 229. This also has been the most hits this site has ever gotten in a day, besting the days when Kobe vented this summer (#2) and when Bynum went down (#3) by more than 40%.

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  54. damn.damn..go lakers go..!!
    i know..the lakers will be the champion this time..

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  55. I think we should all send Mitch an apology card. So much trash has been talked on him. Now, it all comes together.

    Today rates as one of my top ten days as a sports fan.

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  56. NA-NA NA NA….NA-NA NA NA…hey hey…good bye…kwame is gone no one will miss layups again but i will miss Javaris kinda….ITS A BANNER YEAR IN LAKER LAND!!!!!! GO LAKERS!!

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  57. I JUMPED UP 24 time when i heard news!!!!
    I CAN SEE IT NOW LAKERS V SUNS IN WESTERN FINALS AND LAKERS SWEEP!!!! GO TO THE FINALS VS CELTICS JUST LIKE THE OLD DAYS AND LAKERS WIN THE CHAMPIONSHIP IN 6 GAMES!!!

    GO LAKERS!!!

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  58. Man We should have been playing the Celtics at the end of the year and well see what happens! the lakers are now at least a second round playoff team AT LEAST! its up to them to go further up the playoffs! lakers now have lots of talent and might cost them lots of money! so what thats for Jerry Buss to worry about =D!

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  59. long-time reader, first-time poster, just wanted to chime in on the celebrations! I can’t wait to face SA, PHX, Dallas, and Boston with this amazing new lineup of ours. Holy moly, Kupchak for GM of the YEAR!

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  60. Mitch!!!! GREAT JOB ABD VISON!!!! I CAN SMELL A CHAMPIOSHIP IN LAKERLAND ALREADY!!!!! GO LAKERS GO!!!! FO LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  61. This is amazing!! And the best part, instead of giving up Lamar or Andrew, we gave up Kwame Brown. That in itself gives Mitch Executive of the Year. Now we have a big man to play center until Bynum comes back. And when Andrew gets back we have a starting lineup of D Fish, Kobe, Lamar, Pau, and Bynum. What I would like to see is Luke Walton starting and Lamar coming off the bench as a versatile small/power forward. That way he could sub for any of the three frontline starters. ANYONE AGREE??

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  62. carter blanchard February 2, 2008 at 5:59 am

    254) Do refreshes count towards that? Cuz if so I feel like I’m probably responsible for about half of those hits.

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  63. WOW I cant believe Mitch Kupchak pulled that off. Amazing! Although I will sorely miss J-Critt. He will still no doubt in my mind be better than Farmar. At least now he will get more playing time in Memphis and be able to exhibit his talent. AS for Kwame. Thank God he is gone. He will be out of the league after this year GUARANTEED.

    I still think Jerry West had something to do with this trade. If it was indirectly or directly. I beleive he wanted to help the Lakers out after Kevin Mchale and Danny Ainge did their collusion trade for the Celtics.
    [edited]
    In the words of the great Ice Cube “Today Was a Good Day!”

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  64. My birthday is tomorrow. I’m getting wasted tonight. It was payday yesterday. I’ve a house free of parents, a lot of alcohol, five days off work. This trade just makes it all 10x better.

    Good god, it’s a fine day to be a Laker fan, the TV Ratings for Sunday’s game will be through the roof.

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  65. definitely a good day for lakers fans and for the game… the spanish is the ring who failed to get finally another ring… go kobe MVP!!!

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  66. GOOO LAKERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  67. Fisher/Farmar
    Bryant/Sasha
    Odom/Ariza/Vlad/Luke
    Gasol/Turiaf/
    Bynum/Mihm

    leftover- mbenga & karl

    do we really need jason kidd ?

    might be the best 12 man rotation in the league, most of the bench could start for many teams in the league

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  68. Lamar Odom is back! February 2, 2008 at 12:20 pm

    Hey Lakerfan (comment #264), Watch your language. There’s no room for that kind of immaturity in this forum (the first sentence on your third paragraph). And trust me, this comes from the guy posting as Lamar Odom. I know a thing or two about immaturity, and what you just said was without class. Let’s keep it clean and not homophobic.

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  69. damn think about how much boston gave up for garnett most of their future for a older player in garnett & we gave up the worst player on the team for the best player on the other, I think this might’ve been the best deal in the last 10 yrs. paul has won championships in europe and won the mvp. The fans in europe are much worst than the road games here

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  70. IMAGINE THIS LINEUP

    IF YOU WANT TO REALLY LONG & ATHLETIC IN THE STARTING FIVE ODOM CAN BE MAGIC BU KOBE & ARIZA CAN GUARD THE SMALLER GUARDS SINCE THE TRIANGLE OFFENSE DOESN’T NEED A TRUE PG. WITH THIS LINEUP THEIR ALL UNDER THE AGE OF 30 SINCE WE LOADED AT THE SMALL FORWARD SPOT, THERE IS NO STARTING FIVE BIGGER THAN THAT, YOU KNOW HOW MANY TEAMS WILL HAVE MATCH UP PROBLEMS & MISMATCHES

    PG-ODOM 6’10”
    SG-KOBE 6′ 7″
    C-DREW STILL HAD YEAR LEFT TO GROW 7′ 1″+
    PF-GASOL 7′ 0″
    SF-ARIZA 6’8″

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  71. i think this might be the best line-up considering a healthy roster.

    fisher/farmar/vujacic
    kobe/vujacic/luke
    odom/luke/vlad
    pau/turiaf/odom
    bynum/pau/mihm

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  72. Damn the options are endless if teams go small we’ll destroy them on the boards, and if they try to go big odom and pau have enough quickness/range to shoot them out of the stadium. If we could get this team locked up contract wise we’d make the last L.A.L. dynasty look like a fluke.

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  73. Was talking to a friend who is a casual Laker/NBA fan and he didn’t understand the levity of this trade. He asked what does it mean that the Laker got Pau Gasol. My response was,

    “Do some deep knee bends and get ready to jump on the bandwagon.”

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  74. PG – Fisher
    SG – Bryant
    SF – Odom
    PF _ Gasol
    C – Bynum

    Key Bench – Vujacic(The Machine), Farmar, Ariza, Turiaf

    um… are you kidding me??? haha

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  75. Booyah!!! World Domination. Mwahahahaha!

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  76. Lamar Odom is back! February 2, 2008 at 1:50 pm

    #270-THat’s right. Boston is a great team, but their bench is not as deep as the Laker bench because of their off-season moves and lack of development. The Lakers, on the other hand, have developed some great players (Turiaf, Farmar, and Bynum) and now the Machine is turning it on and Radmanovic can hit the J, though inconsistently. THe only thing we need now, I believe, is a defensive specialist.

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  77. Lakers is bizzack! February 2, 2008 at 5:01 pm

    LMAO! at SD Laker Fan’s comment #22.
    I feel exactly the same way.

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  78. Lakers Bringing Fear To The NBA February 2, 2008 at 8:07 pm

    Amazing trade because we didnt give up anything. Sure we lose some muscle in terms of Kwame, but Pau is a good shot blocker anyways. This team just got better….championship caliber better. Cant wait till Bynum gets back. At the meantime, great job by Mitch K. especially since their at a long roadtrip. This puts excitement to every laker fan…including me!!!

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  79. ash_n_tha_cooks February 2, 2008 at 8:12 pm

    When i first saw the headline yesterday that we got Gasol my initial reaction was hell yeah!!!! then i thought, but wait who did we get rid of, i was thinkn either lamar, bynum, ronny or sasha would be part of the deal, but then to see none of them were dealt and we pretty much just got rid of kwame and javaris and we get gasol??????????? Kuptchak you done stopped, hopefully, all future kobe-trade-talk. hats off to you, i’ll drink a beer to that and cant wait to see andrew healthy and see our new dynasty make heads roll!!!!!!

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  80. Lakers Bringing Fear To The NBA February 2, 2008 at 8:14 pm

    Oh and i dont wanna sound negative, but the lakers need to win now. You never know what happens next year since Kobe will be a free agent after next season. Im just hoping he resigns with LA and become a Laker for life. As for this season, it all comes down to chemistry when Bynum gets back. Wow, what a frontline! Cant say enough about it.

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  81. Thank you lord, for taking away kwame brown. Brown was always embarrassing our proud organization. Perpare yourself, we DO have the best starting 5 in the NBA, we do have the deepest team in the NBA. We DO have the best team in the NBA!!! Sorry Boston, you thought this was your year, but weee’re baaaack!!
    This puts the lakers and celtics in the finals just like old times. I just cant stop smiling. Garnett made the biggest mistake by goin to boston. Only a shmucj dwoul go to Boston over LA. Thank you Mitch for not trading bynum. Happiness is being a laker fan.

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  82. I had to check the calendar to make sure this wasn’t an April Fool’s joke. I think if the Lakers traded Kwame for a case of Gatorade they still would have gotten the better of the deal…

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  83. THINGS I’M THANKFUL FOR:
    I’m thankful that Mitch Kupchak wouldn’t trade Andrew Bynum for Jason Kidd.
    I’m thankful that Mitch wouldn’t trade Bynum AND Lamar Odom for Jermaine O’Neal.
    I’m thankful that the Pacers thought that O’Neal was worth more than Bynum, Kwame and filler.
    I’m thankful that Kobe vetoed all the trade proposals with Chicago that included Luol Deng.

    But most of all, I am so very, VERY thankful that Kevin McHale didn’t want Lamar Odom, Andrew Bynum, Kwame Brown and the no. 19 pick (Javaris Crittenton) for Kevin Garnett. Thanks Kevin McHale, you’re the best! We love you.

    People have been joking that if the Celtics win the title they should give McHale a ring. Well, if the Lakers win a title in the next three years, they should give McHale a ring too.

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  84. It was like Christmas morning the friday afternoon on my way home and getting a call from my friend
    “Whas up?”
    “Pau Gasol is on the lakers”
    “What the hell? Are you high?”
    I was in such disbelief that I almost ran a red that very minute. My next question obviously was
    ” Well who did we lose?”
    The first thought that jumped into my head was Odom, the next was Crittenton.
    “Kwame Brown and JC”
    “So we didn’t lose anyone?!?!?!?!”
    “Well, we did lose Kwame”
    “Like I said, we didn’t lose anyone?!!!?”
    At that moment I was so excited I hit 110 mph down Edinger (I know, it was stupid but I’m kind of a speed freek). My only other reaction other then excitement was sorrow for the young Crittenton. But that is easily over looked when Lakers win a championship. Kobe putting on another ring makes me feel like I’m putting one on also, I’ve been a loyal fan missing only 18 games in the past 2 seasons.
    Insight:
    Once I got home I immediatly truned on ESPN and waited through 27 of Super Bowl BS ( we all know the pats are going to win, no matter how close the giants came to beating them during the regular season) and finally was blessed by the faces of Bill Walton, Magic, and Seven A. Smith. That, and upon hours of more research and talking to friends I finally let it all settle down in my veins. I finally came to the conclusions of the future of the lakers.
    If everything works out:
    They are going to be contenders for years with the Twin Towers, MVP, and Grand Master Coach. The difference between this team and the team of of Shaq, Malone, payton, Kobe are that the latter team were all old and near retirement. This team is a bunch of talented individuals just entering their prime. That gives them several years to gel of they dont get it right away.
    If things don’t gel:
    Though the chances are slim to none, as Gasol would fit perfectly into the triangle, if the Lakers find a way to mess this up, they will be stuck for years to come. They have no future as they lost 2 first round draft picks, crittenton, and stuck with the worst salary cap. We’ll I lied, they could always trade Gasol and/or do something with Lamar’s expiring contract. However, you would have to be very cynical if you beieve this is the future of the purple and gold franchise.

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  85. WHOA WHOA WHOA!!! When I heard the news my eyes almost popped out! At first I was like, who did WE trade away??? I was just saying PLEASE NOT BYNUM! But Gasol… for Kwame??? I was like this sounds like a joke. No way we got Gasol for Kwame, but it eventually became more true, so I couldn’t help but think, this is the best trade the grizzlies could think of??? lol. I know they got future picks and such, but I really feel like the Lakers didn’t give up anything. What Laker fan hadn’t become tired of fumbling, turnover prone Kwame Brown? I was so happy, both in part to having acquiring Pau, but also because of “finally” giving up Kwame.

    Well I think this trade is awesome, the grizzlies can have Kwame if they want, Gasol is an excellent player, and with Kobe, Odom, Bynum (the list goes on) teams had better watch out for the Lakers!!!

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  86. Chicky Baby RIP February 4, 2008 at 2:57 am

    …SHOWTIME III…

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  87. Everything depends on Kobe’s ego.
    (Todo depende del ego de Kobe).
    [edited]

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  88. This is freaking huge!!! Hope I can still get some decent odds, when I bet the Lakeshow to win it all this year. What were the Grizzlies thinking? Kwame for Gasol?!?!?!?OMFG, YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  89. soulbossanova09 February 4, 2008 at 2:22 pm

    YESSSSSS!

    This is Lakers, and Kobe’s and Bynum’s destiny. Kobe was the first to say that he tipped his hat off to Kupchak and the “Buss”. And Mamba also said “now we got all the pieces, it’s time to walk the walk”.

    There you go Kobe! You got your head straight and you always did kid. I know your reading this forum like everyone else because its “Your” Forum after all… let’s not be modest”. But all the pre-season stuff and “complaining” (they called it) and wanted to be traded is because you just wanted a big man that could be there to help Phil and you run the Triangle. And everyone even your haters [which really love and admire you] want to see you retire in Purple in Gold. … Deep in your heart you always did and Now By God you WILL!

    But when you saw “The Big Fella’s” improvement as the season went on and he started you had high hopes and felt that “we have a chance with this youngin’ doing what he’s doing” and “me “the best in the world” AND eventually the best ever” { Again let’s not be Modest} you were like we can go to the Western Conference Finals at least this year.

    But now I can see it. .. The Lakers ARE the team to beat now not the Celtics. . hahahahahaha. Now with Pau here at the Four when Drew is back Its Finals time Kobe!! You know this man!…{Smokey accent from Friday}. . You know this… Its time to solidify the Claim to the THRONE that we all, even haters are giving you. I can see it in 3-4 more years Lakers will have more Chips than the Celt’s so. . haha. LET’S GO KOBE!

    Trust me I am a Varsity and JV coach and I study that offense everyday. And out of anyone in this world more or less, I can tell ya Pau fits right in!

    This is the Line up RIGHT NOW:

    Fish/Farmar
    Mamba/Karl
    Vlad/Luke
    L.O./Turiaf
    Pau/Mbenga

    When Big Fella Returns:

    Fish/Farmar/Sasha
    Mamba/Sasha/Ariza
    L.O./Ariza/Vlad/Luke
    Pau/Turiaf/L.O.
    Drew/Pau/Mbenga/Mihm/L.O.

    Go Lakers. … GO FOR Destiny!!!

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  90. I am just glad we don’t have to deal with stinking Kwame Brown…… & getting a Allstar big man is seriuosly outrageous…. An Spanish Hero for a Zero, can’t beat that…..

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  91. I am just glad we don’t have to deal with stinking Kwame Brown…… & getting a Allstar big man is seriuosly outrageous…. An Spanish Hero for a Zero, can’t beat that…..

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  92. everything is great now.. i bleed purple and gold– i love the lakers. but i still worry kobe will opt out of his conract at the end of next season. then what?? sasha taking over the 2.. we’ll be screwed then.

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  93. Why in the world would you think kobe would opt out of his contract now… hes gotta be happier than a pig in **** with the way things are going this year.

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  94. awesome line up for Lakers !!

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  95. Thanks god..kk..k I was so sorry for kwame
    when he got boo from the staple. So now I can’t wait till this road trip is over and gasol comes to staple to get cheer!!!!

    buy the way… what is mark gasol doing??
    and where is that chinese guy from draft??
    I never heard anything from those two..
    are they in D-leage ro sth??

    Tomorrow will be a historical day for millenium lakers
    Fisher Bryant Radmanovic Odom Gasol…….
    believe or not it’s happening….

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  96. Couldn’t have scriped this any better…stuff that only Hollywood and the Lakers are made off.

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  97. I think the starting lineup this tuesday should be:
    C- Gasol
    PF-Turiaf
    SF-Odom
    SG-Bryant
    PG-Fisher
    Anyone else agree?

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  98. If anyone does not see that this solidifies the lakers as the championship favorite your blinded.

    While Bynum is recovering we should stick Pau at the 5 and Ronny at the 4 for his defense. Let lamar play 3 and the normal guards at the 1 and 2. I think the key to this puzzle is definatly Turiaf bringing the energy and defense while specialist Ariza is recovering, as well as Bynum.

    Now that the lakers are 9-11 men deep, the title run should be relativly easy.

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  99. Congratulations, Mitch Kupchak!
    for the past years, you’ve done the greatest of the greatest player deals of all-time..

    Containing Kobe and giving-up Shaq was a very good decision.. (considering that Shaq is getting rusty)

    Another one is that acquiring Pau Gasol from the Memphis Grizzlies..

    i have so many things to say about the Lakers’ future but to sum it all up,
    i have this quote,

    “The Blue and Gold will reign once again, a new dynasty in the making..”

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  100. whoo.. this is really fun..
    im a SUPER fan of LAKERS here in the philippines and when i heared the news that pau is traded to LAKERS!
    there is only one word to describe it all..

    CHAMPIONSHIP!

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  101. i cannot wait for the game.. i cant even sleep.. 😉

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  102. It was time for the team, to have a new player like Pau.
    I mean, a scorer, rebounder, a very complete player, beside Kobe

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  103. Can’t wait for us to gel. It’s only the matter of time until we win it all. The Suns are probably crying now and Marion will want out before being humiliated by the Lakers at next meeting. I do feel sorry for Nash and Hill, they are great players but Amare and Shawn are such … lol good luck trying to match up against the Lakers. Short armed 6-10 Amare against very long 7-0 A.B, long 6-7 Shawn against long 7-0 Pau and 6-8 Diaw or Hill agaisnt long 6-10 L.O. lol they might say they’re gonna run us out but how they’re gonna run without getting rebounds lol. Gonna run without the ball? Plus Kobe and Fisher in the back court. That is one scary line up there, It’ll be a failure if we don’t win championship for any year to come. We’re capable of winning it all considering the Spurs is getting a little old and slow but don’t count them out yet. The Mavs is getting lost. The Suns was never in the equation. Celts are awesome but they’re not deep enough to run the whole season. I do like them, very passionate team. The Pistons might be the only team that can match up with us in the front court and back court. Again our bench is way better compared to theirs so It’s still in our favor to win it all. What do you guys think.

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  104. man this a great time to be a laker

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  105. Great week for me, new born baby and second but not less important, my Lakers have improved to a title contender with a great deal. Needless to say that Kwame had that one coming is almost like he hates playing basketball, total apathy, like VC in Jersey, it is just painfull to watch, but Gasol in the other hand, great all around player, reliable, forget about the softness, you can trust him to the task. I heard someone regreting about Javaris, i will mourn his lose but to be fair it was for a greater cause, i’ve been a Laker for 25 years and i’m only 31 i’ve seen a lot and i don’t think that every problem will solve just by getting Gasol, hell, i don’t even think the championship is at reach, not just yet, not at this point, we have to see development, injuries and performances, let’s just have faith in them and embrace any effort by our team, we can afford speculations, who knows? i might just forget my fears tonight. Greetings from Mazatlan Mexico fromg the biggest Lakers Fan (at least in Mazatlan), godspeed boys.

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  106. soulbossanova09 February 5, 2008 at 2:46 pm

    No #293 He will not opt out of his contract after 2008-09. Why? Like #294 said “he should be happier than a pig in **** the way things are going”. And Happier than Michael Jackson at a daycare center.

    But yes #298 that does seem like a reasonable um… lineup but I have the feeling Odom will stay at the four and Vlad will get the other foward position. I have a feeling that the Lakers will punish with points today. And to do this Vlad needs to play that “3” and L.O. needs to be the swingman he is at that “4”.

    The Lakers will try everything in the best of their abilities, Kobe’s and Pau’s to Punish the Nets [NOTHING Personal]. But they want to make a statement tonight with this debut. And if they do live up to the expections without Bynum? THEN {WITH} Drew in three weeksor so, The Lakers will be simply amazing… Watch and see.

    I am the same “crazy” one that all of my colleagues and some 600 friends which most said I was crazy for going for the Giants. But look what happened. Kobe, I know, I know that you were going with the Pat’s but. …. Hey the Giants and Eli wanted it more. That D-Line wanted it more.

    And in the same token you always wanted it more and proved that your whole career so far. ..And in this second half, you will show ’em.
    They are all just believers that parade around as senics. And they know that they should follow their realistic selves as well as that are rooted in terse and belligerent idealism.

    SEE YOU IN THE 2008 NBA Finals Kobe!

    R. Sainvil

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  107. #296, Marc Gasol is Spanhish Professional League MVP, averaging almost same points and more rebounds, than his brother… Showing unbelivable improvement from last year to date…
    Greetings from Spain! Go Lakers Go!

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  108. Though I am a die hard Lakers fan… the SUNs are not rolling over and playing dead yet! Looks like Shaq is heading back west if all goes well with his physical on Wed. I’m sure the Diesel will be motivated enough with an attempt to put an end to the P & G dream with Nash by his side.

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  109. what’s gonna happen to walton, ariza, and radmanovic when odom moves back to 3? theyre gonna have to get rid of some of them if the lakers plan to keep gasol in the long run. phil jackson likes walton, and radmanovic sometimes gets lost. maybe he’s the one to go. ariza has a player option for next season and i wonder if he’ll bolt if there aren’t enough minutes after odom. GO LAKERS!

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