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	<title>Comments on: Preview and Chat: The Dallas Mavericks</title>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2008/03/02/preview-and-chat-the-dallas-mavericks-5/comment-page-3/#comment-487007</link>
		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note: new post up on last night&#039;s contest.</description>
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		<title>By: Craig W.</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2008/03/02/preview-and-chat-the-dallas-mavericks-5/comment-page-3/#comment-487004</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing about the Lakers is that they are a young team. When the going gets rough inside they tend to just go to the 3pt line and hang out. Lamar isn&#039;t young, but he also tends to do this on offense when it is really rough inside. I think this is one of the main reasons Phil likes to play Luke more minutes than we fans would prefer - he does get inside and mix it up, even when it is rough. 

We look at Bynum and Ariza as people who will add our own toughness. I suspect Phil is trying to get the other players to toughen up down low so that Kobe isn&#039;t the only one driving the lane. Kobe will be injured if he is the only one doing this. I also feel Phil should let Turiaf have more minutes for this very reason.

All that being said, we are a pretty good team right now - without Bynum and Ariza - and I think we have to think now, rather than when Andrew comes back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing about the Lakers is that they are a young team. When the going gets rough inside they tend to just go to the 3pt line and hang out. Lamar isn&#8217;t young, but he also tends to do this on offense when it is really rough inside. I think this is one of the main reasons Phil likes to play Luke more minutes than we fans would prefer &#8211; he does get inside and mix it up, even when it is rough. </p>
<p>We look at Bynum and Ariza as people who will add our own toughness. I suspect Phil is trying to get the other players to toughen up down low so that Kobe isn&#8217;t the only one driving the lane. Kobe will be injured if he is the only one doing this. I also feel Phil should let Turiaf have more minutes for this very reason.</p>
<p>All that being said, we are a pretty good team right now &#8211; without Bynum and Ariza &#8211; and I think we have to think now, rather than when Andrew comes back.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean P.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, I meant 105. &amp; 107.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, I meant 105. &amp; 107.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean P.</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2008/03/02/preview-and-chat-the-dallas-mavericks-5/comment-page-3/#comment-486995</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>106. &amp; 107.- 

I don&#039;t think the problem was with Pau showing poorly (even is he shows poorly, his length is still going to bother most pgs), it was by having Pau show against Jason Kidd in the first place. The guy is not going to score a high % coming off of a pick (whether he takes the jumper, puts up a runner, or drives for a contested layup- he&#039;s only dangerous while shooting after receiving a pass flat footed and going straight up for a jumper, thus the .365 3fg% this year), but he will beat you every time with a pass if you show against him.

If you noticed later in the game when we stopped showing and in fact stopped sending bodies at him every time he got past his man (e.g., those strange plays we he and Sasha were doing circles around each other), he was no longer effective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>106. &amp; 107.- </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the problem was with Pau showing poorly (even is he shows poorly, his length is still going to bother most pgs), it was by having Pau show against Jason Kidd in the first place. The guy is not going to score a high % coming off of a pick (whether he takes the jumper, puts up a runner, or drives for a contested layup- he&#8217;s only dangerous while shooting after receiving a pass flat footed and going straight up for a jumper, thus the .365 3fg% this year), but he will beat you every time with a pass if you show against him.</p>
<p>If you noticed later in the game when we stopped showing and in fact stopped sending bodies at him every time he got past his man (e.g., those strange plays we he and Sasha were doing circles around each other), he was no longer effective.</p>
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		<title>By: WildYams</title>
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		<dc:creator>WildYams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think these last two Laker games have really shown how much the team relies on 3-pt shooting to be effective.  Without any of their key guys being able to hit from the outside, it allows opposing defenses to key too much on Pau and Odom inside.  5-27 on Friday and 5-23 yesterday is no threat at all for opposing teams and isn&#039;t going to keep them honest.  Odd that Fisher, Farmar and Sasha all are slumping at the same time, but at least they all appear to be trying to shoot their way out of it.  When they hit their shots it forces teams to honor them, thus opening up the inside game and the screen-roll plays with Kobe and Pau.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think these last two Laker games have really shown how much the team relies on 3-pt shooting to be effective.  Without any of their key guys being able to hit from the outside, it allows opposing defenses to key too much on Pau and Odom inside.  5-27 on Friday and 5-23 yesterday is no threat at all for opposing teams and isn&#8217;t going to keep them honest.  Odd that Fisher, Farmar and Sasha all are slumping at the same time, but at least they all appear to be trying to shoot their way out of it.  When they hit their shots it forces teams to honor them, thus opening up the inside game and the screen-roll plays with Kobe and Pau.</p>
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		<title>By: Darius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Calling out Reed?  Pretty funny stuff...

We&#039;ve seen enough of Pau to know what his strenghts/weaknesses are.  Steve Nash could have a 7 steal game....does that make him a great defender?  Numbers don&#039;t tell the entire story.

And I agree with Reed on Pau&#039;s screen/roll D.  He needs to show and recover to his man....sometimes he does one or the other, but rarely both effectively on the same play.  Bynum and Ronnie have been strong at this all year, but Pau is leaving a lot to be desired in this area.  I also think Pau has hit a wall in the past few games.  He has still been pretty effective, but banging agains Pryzbilla (twice) and Dampier seemed to bother him some.  They have the size to lay off him to deny his penetration and the length to still challenge his jumper, while also having the strength to body him when he drives the lane.  Pau&#039;s numbers were still good, but he looked a little off his game against these guys.  But hey, you can&#039;t shoot 60% forever (unless you dunk everything like Bynum).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calling out Reed?  Pretty funny stuff&#8230;</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve seen enough of Pau to know what his strenghts/weaknesses are.  Steve Nash could have a 7 steal game&#8230;.does that make him a great defender?  Numbers don&#8217;t tell the entire story.</p>
<p>And I agree with Reed on Pau&#8217;s screen/roll D.  He needs to show and recover to his man&#8230;.sometimes he does one or the other, but rarely both effectively on the same play.  Bynum and Ronnie have been strong at this all year, but Pau is leaving a lot to be desired in this area.  I also think Pau has hit a wall in the past few games.  He has still been pretty effective, but banging agains Pryzbilla (twice) and Dampier seemed to bother him some.  They have the size to lay off him to deny his penetration and the length to still challenge his jumper, while also having the strength to body him when he drives the lane.  Pau&#8217;s numbers were still good, but he looked a little off his game against these guys.  But hey, you can&#8217;t shoot 60% forever (unless you dunk everything like Bynum).</p>
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		<title>By: Kaifa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaifa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 17:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with Troy. Also, has anybody else had the same perception that Kobe has been quite lazy fighting over screens the last few games? Obviously he&#039;s already shouldering a huge load and expending a lot of energy on offense and often times guarding the opponents&#039; best wing. 

But especially against the Blazers and to a lesser degree against the Mavs, Kobe neither quickly fought over a screen to get back to his man nor tried to switch but kind of trailed the play and made the rest of the Lakers&#039; defense rotate all over the place. I didn&#039;t pay much attention to this early in the season but since they don&#039;t have an imposing shot blocker right now to funnel penetrating guards to, this has seemed a noteworthy weakness to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with Troy. Also, has anybody else had the same perception that Kobe has been quite lazy fighting over screens the last few games? Obviously he&#8217;s already shouldering a huge load and expending a lot of energy on offense and often times guarding the opponents&#8217; best wing. </p>
<p>But especially against the Blazers and to a lesser degree against the Mavs, Kobe neither quickly fought over a screen to get back to his man nor tried to switch but kind of trailed the play and made the rest of the Lakers&#8217; defense rotate all over the place. I didn&#8217;t pay much attention to this early in the season but since they don&#8217;t have an imposing shot blocker right now to funnel penetrating guards to, this has seemed a noteworthy weakness to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Reed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 17:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hiding? The numbers speak for themselves. By any decent sample size (time with LA, season, career), he&#039;s a below average rebounder for someone of his size/skill. One game doesn&#039;t alter that. I&#039;m not worried about it as he does well enough and Bynum and Odom will have his back. He provides the creative triangle scoring that they can&#039;t, so it&#039;s a great fit. 

What I&#039;m really worried about with Pau is the pick and roll defense. Dampier abused him on it yesterday. Aldridge did in the two Portland games. Pau looks pretty solid man to man, but get him out on the perimeter defending screen plays and things get ugly fast. He neither shows well enough to take out the guard or rotates well enough to take away the big&#039;s roll. Just a disaster waiting to happen against the Spurs, Jazz, or Suns -- teams with really great pick and roll combos. Hopefully he figures this out before the playoffs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hiding? The numbers speak for themselves. By any decent sample size (time with LA, season, career), he&#8217;s a below average rebounder for someone of his size/skill. One game doesn&#8217;t alter that. I&#8217;m not worried about it as he does well enough and Bynum and Odom will have his back. He provides the creative triangle scoring that they can&#8217;t, so it&#8217;s a great fit. </p>
<p>What I&#8217;m really worried about with Pau is the pick and roll defense. Dampier abused him on it yesterday. Aldridge did in the two Portland games. Pau looks pretty solid man to man, but get him out on the perimeter defending screen plays and things get ugly fast. He neither shows well enough to take out the guard or rotates well enough to take away the big&#8217;s roll. Just a disaster waiting to happen against the Spurs, Jazz, or Suns &#8212; teams with really great pick and roll combos. Hopefully he figures this out before the playoffs.</p>
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		<title>By: Troy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For all the people calling out Reed (kidding or not) about Pau&#039;s rebounding, did you watch the game? If you actually did, you will notice that Pau had 4-5 rebounds off of free throws alone. Even Van Gundy was talking about it. He said that free throw rebounds are too easy and that players on the same team will fight over them all the time because they are so easy and pad your stats. He also had 3-4 rebounds where everyone was getting back on defense and didn&#039;t attempt to rebound. I paid more attention due to Reed&#039;s analysis and you will notice that his statement is true more often than not.  Pau has still played great for us and I&#039;m glad Phil tried to go to him late in the game to see how he would react. Can he score when the game is on the line against a tough opponent? I thought he did well, especially the two clutch free throws at the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all the people calling out Reed (kidding or not) about Pau&#8217;s rebounding, did you watch the game? If you actually did, you will notice that Pau had 4-5 rebounds off of free throws alone. Even Van Gundy was talking about it. He said that free throw rebounds are too easy and that players on the same team will fight over them all the time because they are so easy and pad your stats. He also had 3-4 rebounds where everyone was getting back on defense and didn&#8217;t attempt to rebound. I paid more attention due to Reed&#8217;s analysis and you will notice that his statement is true more often than not.  Pau has still played great for us and I&#8217;m glad Phil tried to go to him late in the game to see how he would react. Can he score when the game is on the line against a tough opponent? I thought he did well, especially the two clutch free throws at the end.</p>
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		<title>By: ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think people need to be complaining about the refs. They were not that bad. They let them play rough, but that made it feel like a playoff game.  The only problem I had was that Dampier was setting illegal screens all game long (especially in the first quarter, but he did it a few time in the 3rd and 4th as well) and they never called the foul. Also they should have called at least one technical on Dampier for the hard fouls on Kobe where he was not going for the ball; at the very least when he hip checked Kobe on the fast break, thats how people get hurt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think people need to be complaining about the refs. They were not that bad. They let them play rough, but that made it feel like a playoff game.  The only problem I had was that Dampier was setting illegal screens all game long (especially in the first quarter, but he did it a few time in the 3rd and 4th as well) and they never called the foul. Also they should have called at least one technical on Dampier for the hard fouls on Kobe where he was not going for the ball; at the very least when he hip checked Kobe on the fast break, thats how people get hurt.</p>
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