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	<title>Comments on: Golden State Warriors: Chat and Preview</title>
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		<title>By: kelly</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2008/03/23/golden-state-warriors-chat-and-preview/comment-page-1/#comment-529538</link>
		<dc:creator>kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lakers need to become a smarter team on both ends of the floor.  On the offensive end, run the offense and stop taking so many quick shots. On the defensive end, stop double teaming when it&#039;s not necessary and collapsing in the paint. Just stick with your man

On both Jackson 3 point shots the D was solid on Ellis and Baron Davis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lakers need to become a smarter team on both ends of the floor.  On the offensive end, run the offense and stop taking so many quick shots. On the defensive end, stop double teaming when it&#8217;s not necessary and collapsing in the paint. Just stick with your man</p>
<p>On both Jackson 3 point shots the D was solid on Ellis and Baron Davis.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, a new preview for tonight is up.

And count me in with Daruis â€” this is Phil&#039;s MO. The best way to beat the Warriors is pounding them inside and the two Lakers who can do that are in street clothes. He is limited in options but doing a lot with what he has to keep winning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, a new preview for tonight is up.</p>
<p>And count me in with Daruis â€” this is Phil&#8217;s MO. The best way to beat the Warriors is pounding them inside and the two Lakers who can do that are in street clothes. He is limited in options but doing a lot with what he has to keep winning.</p>
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		<title>By: chris h</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris h</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks Darius, couldn&#039;t agree more.
there used to be one guy who always was a constant for the frustration, and he&#039;s gone now, (kwame) at least for this season.
I also have a hard time with the posters who claim the sky is falling during one bad game.
remember folks, it&#039;s an 82 game season, and what really matters is what we have at the end, in the second season, the playoffs.
and PJ knows this better than anybody.
someone up there was worried about a first round match up with the Warriors...why???
bring them on!
don&#039;t forget folks, we played last night without 2 starters, big men in the middle which will dramatically change the shape of that series, I&#039;d say PJ and staff would come up with a way to take advantage of our size to demolish those guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks Darius, couldn&#8217;t agree more.<br />
there used to be one guy who always was a constant for the frustration, and he&#8217;s gone now, (kwame) at least for this season.<br />
I also have a hard time with the posters who claim the sky is falling during one bad game.<br />
remember folks, it&#8217;s an 82 game season, and what really matters is what we have at the end, in the second season, the playoffs.<br />
and PJ knows this better than anybody.<br />
someone up there was worried about a first round match up with the Warriors&#8230;why???<br />
bring them on!<br />
don&#8217;t forget folks, we played last night without 2 starters, big men in the middle which will dramatically change the shape of that series, I&#8217;d say PJ and staff would come up with a way to take advantage of our size to demolish those guys.</p>
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		<title>By: Darius</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2008/03/23/golden-state-warriors-chat-and-preview/comment-page-1/#comment-529414</link>
		<dc:creator>Darius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand the frustration with Phil...
He&#039;s been the same coach since he&#039;s been in the league, and he&#039;s been quite successful with it.  Would I have wanted another player besides Luke in the game?  Sure.  But RadMan was having a game where he&#039;s passing up open jumpers and dropping rebounds out of bounds.  Sasha was missing wide open jumpers from everywhere, but was still eager to shoot contested jumpers on the exchange/handoff from the extended elbow.  So, it&#039;s not like Phil had a lot of options with our depleted depth and ineffective players.  

Also, I didn&#039;t see a zone on that last JackO 3.  Fisher just did not respect Jackson&#039;s range and sagged a little too much.  KD pointed out over at the Yahoo blog, that JackO shoots a flat footed jumper and does not need his legs to get off late game jumpers when he&#039;s tired, and Fish needed to recognize that as well as Jackson&#039;s range, as well as the fact that Jackson had already hit FIVE(!) 3&#039;s.  I saw that as a classic defensive lapse where we were too anxious to help (which is ironic considering that Phil had just ripped into them for that same thing on the play before) and we got burned.  All of Kobe&#039;s heroics won&#039;t be enough if you have mental lapses in key situations on defense.

And one other thing on Luke...Do we really need a whipping boy?  I tire of us always having to have a guy to pick on and being the guy we blame for losses.  As I mentioned above, there were several players that made bad plays/mistakes/mental errors that led to missed oppurtunities or let the Warriors capitalize and get points.  I saw so many that had nothing to do with Luke, but his name pops up in the comments of every game chat, win or lose.  I&#039;m not saying people can&#039;t have an opinion.   But Luke is not our only player that deserves to get called out, much less every game.  It was the same with Lamar earlier this year, and it got to the point where Kurt had to put up a &quot;Lamar is what he is&quot; post.  I mean even when these guys play(ed) well, they still get backhanded compliments and &quot;unlike usual&quot; comments about them having good games.  Sorry for the rant, I just feel like all these players bring stuff to the table to help us win.  And every player (including Kobe) do things during a game that contribute to losses.  I feel like every player deserves our support, unless they continually commit egregious errors that consistently lead us to losses.  Luke is not that guy.  We don&#039;t have one guy on our roster like that.  Sorry again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand the frustration with Phil&#8230;<br />
He&#8217;s been the same coach since he&#8217;s been in the league, and he&#8217;s been quite successful with it.  Would I have wanted another player besides Luke in the game?  Sure.  But RadMan was having a game where he&#8217;s passing up open jumpers and dropping rebounds out of bounds.  Sasha was missing wide open jumpers from everywhere, but was still eager to shoot contested jumpers on the exchange/handoff from the extended elbow.  So, it&#8217;s not like Phil had a lot of options with our depleted depth and ineffective players.  </p>
<p>Also, I didn&#8217;t see a zone on that last JackO 3.  Fisher just did not respect Jackson&#8217;s range and sagged a little too much.  KD pointed out over at the Yahoo blog, that JackO shoots a flat footed jumper and does not need his legs to get off late game jumpers when he&#8217;s tired, and Fish needed to recognize that as well as Jackson&#8217;s range, as well as the fact that Jackson had already hit FIVE(!) 3&#8242;s.  I saw that as a classic defensive lapse where we were too anxious to help (which is ironic considering that Phil had just ripped into them for that same thing on the play before) and we got burned.  All of Kobe&#8217;s heroics won&#8217;t be enough if you have mental lapses in key situations on defense.</p>
<p>And one other thing on Luke&#8230;Do we really need a whipping boy?  I tire of us always having to have a guy to pick on and being the guy we blame for losses.  As I mentioned above, there were several players that made bad plays/mistakes/mental errors that led to missed oppurtunities or let the Warriors capitalize and get points.  I saw so many that had nothing to do with Luke, but his name pops up in the comments of every game chat, win or lose.  I&#8217;m not saying people can&#8217;t have an opinion.   But Luke is not our only player that deserves to get called out, much less every game.  It was the same with Lamar earlier this year, and it got to the point where Kurt had to put up a &#8220;Lamar is what he is&#8221; post.  I mean even when these guys play(ed) well, they still get backhanded compliments and &#8220;unlike usual&#8221; comments about them having good games.  Sorry for the rant, I just feel like all these players bring stuff to the table to help us win.  And every player (including Kobe) do things during a game that contribute to losses.  I feel like every player deserves our support, unless they continually commit egregious errors that consistently lead us to losses.  Luke is not that guy.  We don&#8217;t have one guy on our roster like that.  Sorry again.</p>
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		<title>By: Jed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>32.  Actually, I hear Warren is quite fond of Victoria&#039;s Secret.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>32.  Actually, I hear Warren is quite fond of Victoria&#8217;s Secret.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 15:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Between this game and the recent Houston game, we seem to be in the habit of giving big leads to the other team to start a game.  The only way we made these two games competitive is that neither could hit water from a boat in the 3rd quarter.  I must have looked up shocked at a Warrior missed layup a half dozen times in the third quarter.  

The funny part?  Had we won, Kobe would have been raving about the team&#039;s defense, as he has in all of his recent post-game interviews.  Which Kurt has rightly pointed out that we win in spite of of defense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Between this game and the recent Houston game, we seem to be in the habit of giving big leads to the other team to start a game.  The only way we made these two games competitive is that neither could hit water from a boat in the 3rd quarter.  I must have looked up shocked at a Warrior missed layup a half dozen times in the third quarter.  </p>
<p>The funny part?  Had we won, Kobe would have been raving about the team&#8217;s defense, as he has in all of his recent post-game interviews.  Which Kurt has rightly pointed out that we win in spite of of defense.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris248NYC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris248NYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mean, I guess you are.

Sigh. Nothing to see here. Move on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean, I guess you are.</p>
<p>Sigh. Nothing to see here. Move on.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris248NYC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris248NYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Warren, I guess you&#039;re not in the whole brevity thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Warren, I guess you&#8217;re not in the whole brevity thing.</p>
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		<title>By: nomuskles</title>
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		<dc:creator>nomuskles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#039;t real mad at the end of that one. Lakers fought hard to come back. Lamar was really active tonight and I think he deserves a lot of props. blocks, rebounds, and timely jumpers. Hopefully we can pick up the win tonight in Oakland!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t real mad at the end of that one. Lakers fought hard to come back. Lamar was really active tonight and I think he deserves a lot of props. blocks, rebounds, and timely jumpers. Hopefully we can pick up the win tonight in Oakland!</p>
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		<title>By: Renato Afonso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renato Afonso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 11:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys, PJ coaching, as always, left a lot to be desired... as CTDeLude stated. Awesome game-planning, terrible in-game decisions.

But to me, what bothers me the most, isn&#039;t Luke being in for Ronny (which could have something to do with FT, I hope)... it&#039;s the fact that Stephen Jackson had enough time to shoot the second 3-pointer that worries me.

First of all, the Lakers are down by one and the Warriors have the ball with 30 seconds to go on the clock. You cannot go zone or diamond-one or whatever there. You must go man-to-man and you cover the three point shot. It&#039;s better to concede a 2 pointer than a 3 pointer.

Now, here&#039;s what kills me. Each NBA team plays 82 regular season games, so you know each player&#039;s weaknesses and strenghts. What you should do is, get your best on-ball defender on Baron Davis and force him to the left side of the court (since he&#039;s right-handed) while keeping a big body inside (Ronny). You let him go as far as the baseline and invite him to shoot. If he shoots, since he&#039;s right handed, you have more probability to successfully contest it, as his shooting arm is closer to you. If he drives to the hoop, you trap him with the big body and some help from the weakside.

What you DON&#039;T do is give help from the strong side. What you DON&#039;T do is give help from the weak side if your man is in the center of the court waiting to shoot a three.

But maybe, we should&#039;ve played defense from the start of the game, and not be in this position at the end...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, PJ coaching, as always, left a lot to be desired&#8230; as CTDeLude stated. Awesome game-planning, terrible in-game decisions.</p>
<p>But to me, what bothers me the most, isn&#8217;t Luke being in for Ronny (which could have something to do with FT, I hope)&#8230; it&#8217;s the fact that Stephen Jackson had enough time to shoot the second 3-pointer that worries me.</p>
<p>First of all, the Lakers are down by one and the Warriors have the ball with 30 seconds to go on the clock. You cannot go zone or diamond-one or whatever there. You must go man-to-man and you cover the three point shot. It&#8217;s better to concede a 2 pointer than a 3 pointer.</p>
<p>Now, here&#8217;s what kills me. Each NBA team plays 82 regular season games, so you know each player&#8217;s weaknesses and strenghts. What you should do is, get your best on-ball defender on Baron Davis and force him to the left side of the court (since he&#8217;s right-handed) while keeping a big body inside (Ronny). You let him go as far as the baseline and invite him to shoot. If he shoots, since he&#8217;s right handed, you have more probability to successfully contest it, as his shooting arm is closer to you. If he drives to the hoop, you trap him with the big body and some help from the weakside.</p>
<p>What you DON&#8217;T do is give help from the strong side. What you DON&#8217;T do is give help from the weak side if your man is in the center of the court waiting to shoot a three.</p>
<p>But maybe, we should&#8217;ve played defense from the start of the game, and not be in this position at the end&#8230;</p>
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