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		<title>By: Warren Wee Lim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warren Wee Lim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kurt, would you suggest I change my name to Luke Warren Walton? :)</description>
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		<title>By: Warren Wee Lim</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2008/04/28/lakersnuggets-game-4-chat/comment-page-4/#comment-559080</link>
		<dc:creator>Warren Wee Lim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I concur that Utah is indeed physical but they do not have the &quot;enforcer&quot; type defenders that make me tremble. By all means I am not thinking little of Utah. As a matter of fact, I like them better than Houston because I believe that if we are to be champs, we should face the real competition and stop making excuses such as &quot;wait till Drew is back&quot; or &quot;the refs ate their whistles&quot;. In the end, its all about competition and this year, in the Utah series, we will see the Lakers show up or roll over. 

Utah runs the PNR to death. Something that has more to do with us rather than them. Many teams run this but the &quot;under&quot; man is not as big and as excellent as DWill. So this is a problem. We will need to address this or else Utah is going to the WCF for the second straight year.

Guys, Utah is a type A team. Otherwise, why the heck are they in these playoffs (and the WCF last year) if they aren&#039;t. However, to our delight, we are a type A+ team. Without Drew, we are a tad behind what we would like to be but as is, we are a better team and we have the home court. To say we will &quot;cruise&quot; against Utah is to be overly cocky and not optimistic. But again, as Emma inquires about, is it blind&#039;s faith? 

The answer is no. 

Game 1/4 was at the start of the season at LA. Highlights include Andrew Bynum showing up for 15/9 off the bench. Kobe scored 33-5-3-3-2 with 5 TOs on 13/19 shooting. Boozer had 23/12 while Deron had 26/5 dimes. Lakers won by 10.

Game 2/4 was at Salt Lake. Boozer and Okur are absent but Utah countered with AK47&#039;s triple double of 20-11-11-6-4. Naturally, we won&#039;t be seeing this from AK since Booze and Okur are expected to suit up. Deron was his usual monstrous self scoring 35pts on 14/24 clip. Kobe had 28-4-3 but the Lakers were outrebounded 48-34. Utah claims this by 24.

Game 3/4 was played at Staples with the Lakers winning in 3 quarters. This was Phil Jackson&#039;s milestone tying Red Auerbach&#039;s win record. Kobe totaled 31-4-7 while resting the whole of the 4th quarter. The final score lead was 14pts but the Jazz outscored the Lakers 35-17 in the 4th. The winning margin was 32 at the end of the 3rd. Trevor Ariza was in this game and we held Deron Williams to only 6pts. Hmmmmm.

Game 4/4 had plenty of meaning. Utah was white hot at home thus securing the playoff berth at 4th. But the Lakers had other plans other than extending their home win streak. Lakeshow beat this Utah team WITHOUT Drew, WITHOUT Trevor and WITHOUT Pau ON THE ROAD. Lamar Odom showcased this game with a 21-12-6 performance beside Kobe&#039;s 27-8-7. Deron tallied 26-7-12 and Boozer had 23-15 in the losing effort. 

If you ask me, the Lakers consistently beat Utah convincingly this year, all 4 games without PAU, all but one win without Trevor and Drew. Kobe gets MVP-like numbers when playing against them with an average of 30-6-5 on these 4 games, having played only 15 quarters. 

The interesting fact is Jordan Farmar&#039;s strong play against this team. He is averaging 15ppg against the Jazz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I concur that Utah is indeed physical but they do not have the &#8220;enforcer&#8221; type defenders that make me tremble. By all means I am not thinking little of Utah. As a matter of fact, I like them better than Houston because I believe that if we are to be champs, we should face the real competition and stop making excuses such as &#8220;wait till Drew is back&#8221; or &#8220;the refs ate their whistles&#8221;. In the end, its all about competition and this year, in the Utah series, we will see the Lakers show up or roll over. </p>
<p>Utah runs the PNR to death. Something that has more to do with us rather than them. Many teams run this but the &#8220;under&#8221; man is not as big and as excellent as DWill. So this is a problem. We will need to address this or else Utah is going to the WCF for the second straight year.</p>
<p>Guys, Utah is a type A team. Otherwise, why the heck are they in these playoffs (and the WCF last year) if they aren&#8217;t. However, to our delight, we are a type A+ team. Without Drew, we are a tad behind what we would like to be but as is, we are a better team and we have the home court. To say we will &#8220;cruise&#8221; against Utah is to be overly cocky and not optimistic. But again, as Emma inquires about, is it blind&#8217;s faith? </p>
<p>The answer is no. </p>
<p>Game 1/4 was at the start of the season at LA. Highlights include Andrew Bynum showing up for 15/9 off the bench. Kobe scored 33-5-3-3-2 with 5 TOs on 13/19 shooting. Boozer had 23/12 while Deron had 26/5 dimes. Lakers won by 10.</p>
<p>Game 2/4 was at Salt Lake. Boozer and Okur are absent but Utah countered with AK47&#8242;s triple double of 20-11-11-6-4. Naturally, we won&#8217;t be seeing this from AK since Booze and Okur are expected to suit up. Deron was his usual monstrous self scoring 35pts on 14/24 clip. Kobe had 28-4-3 but the Lakers were outrebounded 48-34. Utah claims this by 24.</p>
<p>Game 3/4 was played at Staples with the Lakers winning in 3 quarters. This was Phil Jackson&#8217;s milestone tying Red Auerbach&#8217;s win record. Kobe totaled 31-4-7 while resting the whole of the 4th quarter. The final score lead was 14pts but the Jazz outscored the Lakers 35-17 in the 4th. The winning margin was 32 at the end of the 3rd. Trevor Ariza was in this game and we held Deron Williams to only 6pts. Hmmmmm.</p>
<p>Game 4/4 had plenty of meaning. Utah was white hot at home thus securing the playoff berth at 4th. But the Lakers had other plans other than extending their home win streak. Lakeshow beat this Utah team WITHOUT Drew, WITHOUT Trevor and WITHOUT Pau ON THE ROAD. Lamar Odom showcased this game with a 21-12-6 performance beside Kobe&#8217;s 27-8-7. Deron tallied 26-7-12 and Boozer had 23-15 in the losing effort. </p>
<p>If you ask me, the Lakers consistently beat Utah convincingly this year, all 4 games without PAU, all but one win without Trevor and Drew. Kobe gets MVP-like numbers when playing against them with an average of 30-6-5 on these 4 games, having played only 15 quarters. </p>
<p>The interesting fact is Jordan Farmar&#8217;s strong play against this team. He is averaging 15ppg against the Jazz.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New post up, where we can continue the Utah discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New post up, where we can continue the Utah discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: pb</title>
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		<dc:creator>pb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think UTA is a legitimate concern for the Lakers as they are definitely capable of beating the Lakers in 7 game series. However, the Lakers are the better team because they have more talent overall and have the best player in the game, both offensively and defensively. I truly think the series will be dictated by how we play, not how UTA plays. If we play good defense and patiently excute on offense, we WILL beat UTA. Nothing UTA does can pose a problem that we can&#039;t solve. We have answer for all their attacks. It&#039;s just a matter of having the right game plan. However, UTA cannot say the same thing. They have no answer for KB24. No one does right now, except for SA or BOS defense (though BOS was torched by Joe Johnson last night - which I think was more of a fluke). Kobe can be stopped if the defense keys on him, but with our supporting cast of Pau, LO, and Fish, we can hurt them if they focus on only Kobe. What I&#039;m trying to say is that while we need to be cautious, our team just need to focus on doing things they do well and not worry about what UTA will be doing. We will dictate the matchups and we will win the series in 5 or 6 games.

SA is a whole another matter though....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think UTA is a legitimate concern for the Lakers as they are definitely capable of beating the Lakers in 7 game series. However, the Lakers are the better team because they have more talent overall and have the best player in the game, both offensively and defensively. I truly think the series will be dictated by how we play, not how UTA plays. If we play good defense and patiently excute on offense, we WILL beat UTA. Nothing UTA does can pose a problem that we can&#8217;t solve. We have answer for all their attacks. It&#8217;s just a matter of having the right game plan. However, UTA cannot say the same thing. They have no answer for KB24. No one does right now, except for SA or BOS defense (though BOS was torched by Joe Johnson last night &#8211; which I think was more of a fluke). Kobe can be stopped if the defense keys on him, but with our supporting cast of Pau, LO, and Fish, we can hurt them if they focus on only Kobe. What I&#8217;m trying to say is that while we need to be cautious, our team just need to focus on doing things they do well and not worry about what UTA will be doing. We will dictate the matchups and we will win the series in 5 or 6 games.</p>
<p>SA is a whole another matter though&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Tung</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Tung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jack (132): Houston?  Houston won &lt;em&gt;in Utah&lt;/em&gt;, without Yao, and were within a T-Mac assist to Okur away from getting a chance to win Game 4.  Houston at least plays some D.  Houston at least has some camaraderie and didn&#039;t fold like stale chocolate when they went down 2-0.  I&#039;m not sure Houston is even the second weakest team, because I agree with you about Dallas.  I think that trade for Kidd was a poor idea, born of a desire to do something for the sake of doing something.  I put Houston and Dallas together around second-weakest, both ahead of (behind?) Denver.

Denver is a very talented collection of players (how about J.R. Smith, huh?), but either Karl can&#039;t coach, or his players can&#039;t listen, and no, those two aren&#039;t the same thing.  The result is a weak playoff team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jack (132): Houston?  Houston won <em>in Utah</em>, without Yao, and were within a T-Mac assist to Okur away from getting a chance to win Game 4.  Houston at least plays some D.  Houston at least has some camaraderie and didn&#8217;t fold like stale chocolate when they went down 2-0.  I&#8217;m not sure Houston is even the second weakest team, because I agree with you about Dallas.  I think that trade for Kidd was a poor idea, born of a desire to do something for the sake of doing something.  I put Houston and Dallas together around second-weakest, both ahead of (behind?) Denver.</p>
<p>Denver is a very talented collection of players (how about J.R. Smith, huh?), but either Karl can&#8217;t coach, or his players can&#8217;t listen, and no, those two aren&#8217;t the same thing.  The result is a weak playoff team.</p>
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		<title>By: Gatinho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gatinho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sager: &quot;Kobe seems to be trying to get everyone involved tonight. Is that the game plan?&quot;

Jackson: &quot;That&#039;s always the game plan.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sager: &#8220;Kobe seems to be trying to get everyone involved tonight. Is that the game plan?&#8221;</p>
<p>Jackson: &#8220;That&#8217;s always the game plan.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Darius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand how anyone can not be concerned about Utah.  Because of the way we handled Denver?  Denver did not play a team game.  They did not play any defense.  They played with little to no discipline the entire series (save game 4).  So I hope no one is basing how we&#039;ll do against Utah off how *well* we played against a team whos style of play was right in our wheelhouse...

What we need to understand about Utah is 3 fold.  They may not be a strong defensive team, but they are a physical team.  They lead the league in fouls every year.  The Lakers are going to have to play through that physicality and get used to not getting every call, especially when we play in Utah.  Refs get intimidated by that crowd.  Phil knows this too, he mentions it every year we go to Utah.  Utah is also extremely talented on offense.  They have a diverse attack with a lot of weapons that can hurt you.  Williams, Boozer, Okur, AK47, Korver, Millsap, Harpring, Brewer....all these guys can get Utah buckets and do it in diverse enough ways that our defense will be tested.  Utah is a disciplined team on offense and the run motion sets...so while we got used to playing pretty good defense against Denver&#039;s Iso sets, we will have a significantly more difficult challenge putting the clamps on Utah&#039;s attack.  Also, have we really improved our P&amp;R defense?  We will find out this series.  The P&amp;R is the staple of the Utah offense and they can score off it in a variety of ways.  Williams can shoot the J or drive the hole.  Boozer can roll on a dive cut, pop out and shoot the midrange J, or slip the screen and either dive hard or stop short for a lane jumper.  Basically, we are going to have our hands full.

Have we tradtionally beaten teams that try to outscore us?  Indeed we have.  But this series is going to be much more difficult than the one we just played.  We are going to be facing a team that matches up with us well and has a deep enough bench where we probably won&#039;t have a decided advantage at any one position besides Kobe&#039;s.  Utah is not a team that we can take lightly, look past, or think is going to be any sort of easy out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand how anyone can not be concerned about Utah.  Because of the way we handled Denver?  Denver did not play a team game.  They did not play any defense.  They played with little to no discipline the entire series (save game 4).  So I hope no one is basing how we&#8217;ll do against Utah off how *well* we played against a team whos style of play was right in our wheelhouse&#8230;</p>
<p>What we need to understand about Utah is 3 fold.  They may not be a strong defensive team, but they are a physical team.  They lead the league in fouls every year.  The Lakers are going to have to play through that physicality and get used to not getting every call, especially when we play in Utah.  Refs get intimidated by that crowd.  Phil knows this too, he mentions it every year we go to Utah.  Utah is also extremely talented on offense.  They have a diverse attack with a lot of weapons that can hurt you.  Williams, Boozer, Okur, AK47, Korver, Millsap, Harpring, Brewer&#8230;.all these guys can get Utah buckets and do it in diverse enough ways that our defense will be tested.  Utah is a disciplined team on offense and the run motion sets&#8230;so while we got used to playing pretty good defense against Denver&#8217;s Iso sets, we will have a significantly more difficult challenge putting the clamps on Utah&#8217;s attack.  Also, have we really improved our P&amp;R defense?  We will find out this series.  The P&amp;R is the staple of the Utah offense and they can score off it in a variety of ways.  Williams can shoot the J or drive the hole.  Boozer can roll on a dive cut, pop out and shoot the midrange J, or slip the screen and either dive hard or stop short for a lane jumper.  Basically, we are going to have our hands full.</p>
<p>Have we tradtionally beaten teams that try to outscore us?  Indeed we have.  But this series is going to be much more difficult than the one we just played.  We are going to be facing a team that matches up with us well and has a deep enough bench where we probably won&#8217;t have a decided advantage at any one position besides Kobe&#8217;s.  Utah is not a team that we can take lightly, look past, or think is going to be any sort of easy out.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack, I suggest you watch the Utah game tonight and see if you still think their physicality is a myth. Paul Bunyan is a myth, Utah&#039;s style of play is not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack, I suggest you watch the Utah game tonight and see if you still think their physicality is a myth. Paul Bunyan is a myth, Utah&#8217;s style of play is not.</p>
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		<title>By: Gatinho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gatinho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least the Lakers got to sniff some road play off basketball last night. Phil did a good job of putting the young guys out there either without LO or KB. 

I see Utah trying a similar defensive strategy with AK47 as KMart on Kobe. Using his length and size to keep Kobe out of the paint, allowing Boozer to stick to Pau and muscle him out of the offense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least the Lakers got to sniff some road play off basketball last night. Phil did a good job of putting the young guys out there either without LO or KB. </p>
<p>I see Utah trying a similar defensive strategy with AK47 as KMart on Kobe. Using his length and size to keep Kobe out of the paint, allowing Boozer to stick to Pau and muscle him out of the offense.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian P.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also about the horrible research jobs by sports analyst these days.  The comment about Denver being the first team ever to be swept with a 50 win season is just another example. 

As noted by True Hoops Portland also got sweeped by the Lakers in 2000-01 by the Lakers.  

Also the most glaring reason people should have known was Pau Gasol had been swept every year, and he led his Memphis team to 50 wins in 03-04. 

You see this fake stats thrown out way to often these days and it is upsetting.  When average fans have more NBA knowledge than people getting paid to have better knowledge something is wrong.

Anyways, I am done ranting. 

Go Lakers! 

Lakers beat Utah in 7 tough games. (One blowout by each team)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also about the horrible research jobs by sports analyst these days.  The comment about Denver being the first team ever to be swept with a 50 win season is just another example. </p>
<p>As noted by True Hoops Portland also got sweeped by the Lakers in 2000-01 by the Lakers.  </p>
<p>Also the most glaring reason people should have known was Pau Gasol had been swept every year, and he led his Memphis team to 50 wins in 03-04. </p>
<p>You see this fake stats thrown out way to often these days and it is upsetting.  When average fans have more NBA knowledge than people getting paid to have better knowledge something is wrong.</p>
<p>Anyways, I am done ranting. </p>
<p>Go Lakers! </p>
<p>Lakers beat Utah in 7 tough games. (One blowout by each team)</p>
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