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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 15:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Game 3 thoughts post up</description>
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		<title>By: busterjonez</title>
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		<dc:creator>busterjonez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 15:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pau had a case of the butterfingers, he will be fine. I don&#039;t believe that the physicality was what bothered him, players sometimes just have an off night. The fact that he took zero foul shots in 40+ minutes of play is evidence of that. In my opinion, he would have been better off stepping back and hitting the 13 footer. Have him at the elbow in the triangle; the Jazz will have a difficult time doubling Pau at that position as he can hit the open man at any point on the floor.

Kobe is looking great and I believe that we would have dominated this game too, provided that Fisher hadn&#039;t picked up two quick chippy fouls in the first three minutes. Farmar does seem to be out of sorts, but Sasha was cold as ice as well.

I don&#039;t hear any of the Jazz complaining about the free throws, even though the Lakers again had a big advantage at the line (37 to 28).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pau had a case of the butterfingers, he will be fine. I don&#8217;t believe that the physicality was what bothered him, players sometimes just have an off night. The fact that he took zero foul shots in 40+ minutes of play is evidence of that. In my opinion, he would have been better off stepping back and hitting the 13 footer. Have him at the elbow in the triangle; the Jazz will have a difficult time doubling Pau at that position as he can hit the open man at any point on the floor.</p>
<p>Kobe is looking great and I believe that we would have dominated this game too, provided that Fisher hadn&#8217;t picked up two quick chippy fouls in the first three minutes. Farmar does seem to be out of sorts, but Sasha was cold as ice as well.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t hear any of the Jazz complaining about the free throws, even though the Lakers again had a big advantage at the line (37 to 28).</p>
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		<title>By: nomuskles</title>
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		<dc:creator>nomuskles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 14:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@warren wee lim: unfortunately, i&#039;m not ditching the girlfriend to write more live blogs. She&#039;s able to get us front row seats to the US Water Polo Championships. Just kidding. I don&#039;t even know if that&#039;s a real event. My gut feeling is that we will execute a little bit better on Sunday and match Utah&#039;s intensity. I think the crowd noise and the change in reffing threw the Lakers off their game a bit. Also, it might be a good game plan for Kobe to come out a little more aggressive from the start to open things up for Pau.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@warren wee lim: unfortunately, i&#8217;m not ditching the girlfriend to write more live blogs. She&#8217;s able to get us front row seats to the US Water Polo Championships. Just kidding. I don&#8217;t even know if that&#8217;s a real event. My gut feeling is that we will execute a little bit better on Sunday and match Utah&#8217;s intensity. I think the crowd noise and the change in reffing threw the Lakers off their game a bit. Also, it might be a good game plan for Kobe to come out a little more aggressive from the start to open things up for Pau.</p>
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		<title>By: namotuman</title>
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		<dc:creator>namotuman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 14:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>145,146.......succinct posts.  i agree, no need to over strategize on this one.  the lakeshow (imparticular pau and walton) just needs to emphasize sure hands to play thru the jazz&#039; reaching techniques.  once they prove they can play thru w/out whining about calls or flailing away, the refs will start looking more closely.  that&#039;s how it works in the away arenas in the playoffs.  i like the posture of this team and this loss was a blessing in disguise.  fish and kb24 and maybe lo are the only ones that know how to shift gears while going on a playoff run (in terms of tweaking &quot;style&quot; of play).  all the others have never gone past the 1st round......the leaders will show them the way.........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>145,146&#8230;&#8230;.succinct posts.  i agree, no need to over strategize on this one.  the lakeshow (imparticular pau and walton) just needs to emphasize sure hands to play thru the jazz&#8217; reaching techniques.  once they prove they can play thru w/out whining about calls or flailing away, the refs will start looking more closely.  that&#8217;s how it works in the away arenas in the playoffs.  i like the posture of this team and this loss was a blessing in disguise.  fish and kb24 and maybe lo are the only ones that know how to shift gears while going on a playoff run (in terms of tweaking &#8220;style&#8221; of play).  all the others have never gone past the 1st round&#8230;&#8230;the leaders will show them the way&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Fanalyst</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Fanalyst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 13:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with most of you in that I&#039;m stunned at how bad Farmar has been lately and Pau&#039;s picture ending up on a milk carton. Luke has been playing well, but &quot;regular season Luke&quot; was back in full effect last night. I didn&#039;t think the officiating would swing so dramatically in the other direction. I expected a balance, but wow...maybe we need neutral site playoff games so the refs don&#039;t know who to root for.

That said I don&#039;t feel this is crushing by any means, as most of you seem to agree. If they can&#039;t get it together tomorrow, 2-2 is going to suck. However, we could make like the Celtics and just win at home and take it in 7. That would be horribly weak, and I doubt it&#039;ll come to that. I always thought this one would go 6. I&#039;d like to see Fish wrap up the series in Utah on a high note. Then, it&#039;s time to beat on some Hornets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with most of you in that I&#8217;m stunned at how bad Farmar has been lately and Pau&#8217;s picture ending up on a milk carton. Luke has been playing well, but &#8220;regular season Luke&#8221; was back in full effect last night. I didn&#8217;t think the officiating would swing so dramatically in the other direction. I expected a balance, but wow&#8230;maybe we need neutral site playoff games so the refs don&#8217;t know who to root for.</p>
<p>That said I don&#8217;t feel this is crushing by any means, as most of you seem to agree. If they can&#8217;t get it together tomorrow, 2-2 is going to suck. However, we could make like the Celtics and just win at home and take it in 7. That would be horribly weak, and I doubt it&#8217;ll come to that. I always thought this one would go 6. I&#8217;d like to see Fish wrap up the series in Utah on a high note. Then, it&#8217;s time to beat on some Hornets.</p>
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		<title>By: wondahbap</title>
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		<dc:creator>wondahbap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 13:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t be too worried about that loss.  I knew going into this that Game 3 would be the Jazz&#039; best chance to get a win.  It went as I expected, although I feel that the referees even the calls out some in the 2nd Half.  What hurt was Pau let the non-calls affect him.  Instead of complaining and expecting a call, he needs to realize the situation, and know that he&#039;s in Utah, and not going to get them.  He let that neutralize him.  Everything went right for the Jazz, and the Lakers still put themselves in position to steal a win.  They just executed poorly down the stretch.  Lakers will be alright.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be too worried about that loss.  I knew going into this that Game 3 would be the Jazz&#8217; best chance to get a win.  It went as I expected, although I feel that the referees even the calls out some in the 2nd Half.  What hurt was Pau let the non-calls affect him.  Instead of complaining and expecting a call, he needs to realize the situation, and know that he&#8217;s in Utah, and not going to get them.  He let that neutralize him.  Everything went right for the Jazz, and the Lakers still put themselves in position to steal a win.  They just executed poorly down the stretch.  Lakers will be alright.</p>
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		<title>By: The Dude Abides</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dude Abides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 09:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No need to panic.  We had two guys playing many minutes who had terrible games, and we only lost by five.  No need to yank Jordan, he&#039;ll come back strong next game.  The Lake Show lost ONE game.  As for Pau, of course he&#039;s going to have trouble with a physical team.  We all knew that already, plus he&#039;s playing out of position.  He&#039;ll come back on Sunday and have a good game.  I thought the referees let the game be physical for both teams.  Boozer, Okur, DWill, and Kirilenko all played well, especially Boozer and Okur.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No need to panic.  We had two guys playing many minutes who had terrible games, and we only lost by five.  No need to yank Jordan, he&#8217;ll come back strong next game.  The Lake Show lost ONE game.  As for Pau, of course he&#8217;s going to have trouble with a physical team.  We all knew that already, plus he&#8217;s playing out of position.  He&#8217;ll come back on Sunday and have a good game.  I thought the referees let the game be physical for both teams.  Boozer, Okur, DWill, and Kirilenko all played well, especially Boozer and Okur.</p>
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		<title>By: B.J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>B.J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 08:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last paragraph of this post was surely aimed at a number of people who made comments that were maybe not blatantly prejudice, but were probably a little insensitive - myself included.

The problem is that I didn&#039;t know how to put my thoughts into the right words and it came out as if I calling all Mormons racist (wouldn&#039;t that in itself be a hypocritical comment for me to make, anyway).

At any rate, certainly no harm intended. I&#039;ve lived in Utah since I was a little kid, and while the demographics are changing, particularly in recent years, the truth is Mormons are still more than half the population of Salt Lake County. They are friends, colleagues and co-workers. Even my dentist. And you know what? They&#039;re regular people just like anyone else and certainly not deserving of any hasty generalizations (I&#039;ve met polygamists maybe once or twice - it&#039;s not like everyone here is running around with multiple wives and 50 kids. I hate that stereotype.)

Anyway, a little bit more on topic, those of you who were talking about Pau being maybe a &quot;glorified role player,&quot; I disagree. I certainly think he is an all-star caliber player. He&#039;s just not a superstar. He was good enough to be the man for awhile for the Grizzlies, but they could never win even a single playoff game. However, playing alongside Kobe is perfect for him. He doesn&#039;t HAVE to be the man. The Lakers have that already. He just needs to take advantage when opposing teams are over-playing Kobe.

Quite frankly, I&#039;m afraid that Pau might play much better in game 4. Okur&#039;s D is underrated, as is his overall toughness inside. I think it played a role tonight, but if Pau can adjust, I&#039;m afraid the Lakers might be able to steal a win from my Jazz. That the same time, if Boozer plays with some actual confidence again in game 4, the Jazz will be hard to beat. This will be the most important game of the series for both teams and will be a tough, hard-fought match.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last paragraph of this post was surely aimed at a number of people who made comments that were maybe not blatantly prejudice, but were probably a little insensitive &#8211; myself included.</p>
<p>The problem is that I didn&#8217;t know how to put my thoughts into the right words and it came out as if I calling all Mormons racist (wouldn&#8217;t that in itself be a hypocritical comment for me to make, anyway).</p>
<p>At any rate, certainly no harm intended. I&#8217;ve lived in Utah since I was a little kid, and while the demographics are changing, particularly in recent years, the truth is Mormons are still more than half the population of Salt Lake County. They are friends, colleagues and co-workers. Even my dentist. And you know what? They&#8217;re regular people just like anyone else and certainly not deserving of any hasty generalizations (I&#8217;ve met polygamists maybe once or twice &#8211; it&#8217;s not like everyone here is running around with multiple wives and 50 kids. I hate that stereotype.)</p>
<p>Anyway, a little bit more on topic, those of you who were talking about Pau being maybe a &#8220;glorified role player,&#8221; I disagree. I certainly think he is an all-star caliber player. He&#8217;s just not a superstar. He was good enough to be the man for awhile for the Grizzlies, but they could never win even a single playoff game. However, playing alongside Kobe is perfect for him. He doesn&#8217;t HAVE to be the man. The Lakers have that already. He just needs to take advantage when opposing teams are over-playing Kobe.</p>
<p>Quite frankly, I&#8217;m afraid that Pau might play much better in game 4. Okur&#8217;s D is underrated, as is his overall toughness inside. I think it played a role tonight, but if Pau can adjust, I&#8217;m afraid the Lakers might be able to steal a win from my Jazz. That the same time, if Boozer plays with some actual confidence again in game 4, the Jazz will be hard to beat. This will be the most important game of the series for both teams and will be a tough, hard-fought match.</p>
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		<title>By: pb</title>
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		<dc:creator>pb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 07:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although the Lakers could have played better, I really think this is the game UTAH won, not one the Lakers lost. They made shots (3 by Boozer and 1 by Okur) down the stretch, and we made mistakes (poor shot selections - Kobe&#039;s 3 down by 7 and turnovers by Luke and Kobe). We missed numerous layups and open shots, but that&#039;s what happens on the road. I thought other than Kobe and Fisher, the rest of the Lakers played scared and/or bothered by the Utah crowd. We knew that Boozer was going to step up, and he had a MONSTER game. Could he duplicate it? Perhaps, but I don&#039;t think Pau and LO will have bad games together like they did in game 3.

Losing game 3 by 5 with a chance to win in the closing minutes isn&#039;t the worst thing in the world. Of course, we want the Lakers to go undefeated, but this isn&#039;t Shaq-Kobe team or the Showtime Lakers. They are still young and finding about what they are capable of. I think they&#039;ll respond better in game 4.

Two things I hope to see in game 4. 1) Pau making moves toward baseline. Pau is trying to get his teammates involved more by passing out of the post. However, he needs to ESTABLISH his post presence first. He needs to make move towards baseline with hookshots from either side or face up and take short jumpers instead of making moves toward middle. 2) Although LO doesn&#039;t like to have plays run for him, when Milsap is guarding him, they should post him up on the right side (facing the basket), not the left side. From there, he can go to the middle with the jump hook or go drop step baseline move (making layups with his right hand). When our bigs are involved, the 3 point shooters, Fisher and Sasha, can have more time to launch their shots. I thought that the UTAH fowards were closing out to our 3pt shooters too quickly because they were not too concerned about LO too much. We need to see Pau to Lamar diving that we saw against dENVER more. Lamar&#039;s aggressiveness will make Pau and Kobe&#039;s offense more effective.

Farmar, that&#039;s a whole another story. His confidence is shot. He should go back to shooting 18-20 footers instead of 3 pointers, for now. He really needs to get his groove back. He should focus on defense and try to not do too much on offense. We don&#039;t need him to hit 3s. A transition layup and a couple of mid range jumpers would be nice.

All in all, I think the Lakers can hold their heads up high. They didn&#039;t play too terribly. UTAH just played better. If the Lakers play better on Sunday, they have very good shot at winning. It won&#039;t be easy, but it&#039;s not impossible. There&#039;s no way Boozer&#039;s going for 30/20 again on Sunday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although the Lakers could have played better, I really think this is the game UTAH won, not one the Lakers lost. They made shots (3 by Boozer and 1 by Okur) down the stretch, and we made mistakes (poor shot selections &#8211; Kobe&#8217;s 3 down by 7 and turnovers by Luke and Kobe). We missed numerous layups and open shots, but that&#8217;s what happens on the road. I thought other than Kobe and Fisher, the rest of the Lakers played scared and/or bothered by the Utah crowd. We knew that Boozer was going to step up, and he had a MONSTER game. Could he duplicate it? Perhaps, but I don&#8217;t think Pau and LO will have bad games together like they did in game 3.</p>
<p>Losing game 3 by 5 with a chance to win in the closing minutes isn&#8217;t the worst thing in the world. Of course, we want the Lakers to go undefeated, but this isn&#8217;t Shaq-Kobe team or the Showtime Lakers. They are still young and finding about what they are capable of. I think they&#8217;ll respond better in game 4.</p>
<p>Two things I hope to see in game 4. 1) Pau making moves toward baseline. Pau is trying to get his teammates involved more by passing out of the post. However, he needs to ESTABLISH his post presence first. He needs to make move towards baseline with hookshots from either side or face up and take short jumpers instead of making moves toward middle. 2) Although LO doesn&#8217;t like to have plays run for him, when Milsap is guarding him, they should post him up on the right side (facing the basket), not the left side. From there, he can go to the middle with the jump hook or go drop step baseline move (making layups with his right hand). When our bigs are involved, the 3 point shooters, Fisher and Sasha, can have more time to launch their shots. I thought that the UTAH fowards were closing out to our 3pt shooters too quickly because they were not too concerned about LO too much. We need to see Pau to Lamar diving that we saw against dENVER more. Lamar&#8217;s aggressiveness will make Pau and Kobe&#8217;s offense more effective.</p>
<p>Farmar, that&#8217;s a whole another story. His confidence is shot. He should go back to shooting 18-20 footers instead of 3 pointers, for now. He really needs to get his groove back. He should focus on defense and try to not do too much on offense. We don&#8217;t need him to hit 3s. A transition layup and a couple of mid range jumpers would be nice.</p>
<p>All in all, I think the Lakers can hold their heads up high. They didn&#8217;t play too terribly. UTAH just played better. If the Lakers play better on Sunday, they have very good shot at winning. It won&#8217;t be easy, but it&#8217;s not impossible. There&#8217;s no way Boozer&#8217;s going for 30/20 again on Sunday.</p>
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		<title>By: lakerfan101</title>
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		<dc:creator>lakerfan101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 07:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, Warren Wee Lim  we can just blame you because you did not post 1st.   LOL...

Anyway, just looking at that old &quot;+/-&quot; stat the Lakers were mostly in the negative and the Jazz were of course in the positive, I am starting to believe in that new stat that and it&#039;s relevence in games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, Warren Wee Lim  we can just blame you because you did not post 1st.   LOL&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyway, just looking at that old &#8220;+/-&#8221; stat the Lakers were mostly in the negative and the Jazz were of course in the positive, I am starting to believe in that new stat that and it&#8217;s relevence in games.</p>
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