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		<title>By: A-Town</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2008/06/09/the-dark-lord/comment-page-4/#comment-575771</link>
		<dc:creator>A-Town</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 02:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow - Mr. Bridges, that summed up exactly what I&#039;ve been thinking the past 2 weeks. I just have not been able to find the right way to articulate it. Well done.

All I can say is that i hope that something is done with it by the league. Stern &amp; Co implement new rules and by laws every year it seems, so why not add obvious off the ball ambiguous friends of the flop? 

I guess they are instituting a &quot;flopping fine&quot;, which is kind of ludicrous, seeing as it won&#039;t have too much effect on the games. 

But this off the ball squelly waggin that Thibodeau is all about is not legit. Make a move, Mr. Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8211; Mr. Bridges, that summed up exactly what I&#8217;ve been thinking the past 2 weeks. I just have not been able to find the right way to articulate it. Well done.</p>
<p>All I can say is that i hope that something is done with it by the league. Stern &amp; Co implement new rules and by laws every year it seems, so why not add obvious off the ball ambiguous friends of the flop? </p>
<p>I guess they are instituting a &#8220;flopping fine&#8221;, which is kind of ludicrous, seeing as it won&#8217;t have too much effect on the games. </p>
<p>But this off the ball squelly waggin that Thibodeau is all about is not legit. Make a move, Mr. Dave</p>
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		<title>By: A-Town</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2008/06/09/the-dark-lord/comment-page-4/#comment-575770</link>
		<dc:creator>A-Town</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 02:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really do love watching odom play, being a Laker. But I just don&#039;t know if he is that impact player - every night - type. That was Pippen, is Marion..And I honestly have a feeling like Artest would be motivated by playing in LA; alongside Kobe, Fisher, Gasol, and Bynum - they make one expectional lineup. Then Farmar, Machine, Luke, Vlade, Turiaf, and Rahim coming off the bench. Still a strong bench - this 2nd unit we currently have, but one would perhaps have to go if we wanted this deal. Draft Pick is always an option.

Or if we had to, maybe they&#039;d be crazy enough to take on Vlade - he&#039;d be balling in Sac  haha. We could also catch Shareef in that deal.

Anyways, i&#039;m just thinking outloud. The idea of Odom coming off the bench - with Ariza starting - is probably the best TEAM we&#039;re going to put together. I like it - to those who all said it earlier. This team really is going to have grown by next year, especially with Big Bynum. He&#039;s that fire that we need on the court when it&#039;s lacking. I have supreme confidence in his abilty to do what we need him to do. I wouldn&#039;t even put it past him to develop a little jumpshot game about 8-10 feet out. And we should give him a nice contract, as Kurt suggested earlier.

My only question is - Do we want another guard or do we want a big body in the draft / free agency or something? I say the latter - one that complements Turiaf; little low post game. Rebounds defends well. That would solidify our bench to the ninth degree. 

Lakers will be holding that trophy - and I&#039;m pulling for LO to be there. He definitely</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really do love watching odom play, being a Laker. But I just don&#8217;t know if he is that impact player &#8211; every night &#8211; type. That was Pippen, is Marion..And I honestly have a feeling like Artest would be motivated by playing in LA; alongside Kobe, Fisher, Gasol, and Bynum &#8211; they make one expectional lineup. Then Farmar, Machine, Luke, Vlade, Turiaf, and Rahim coming off the bench. Still a strong bench &#8211; this 2nd unit we currently have, but one would perhaps have to go if we wanted this deal. Draft Pick is always an option.</p>
<p>Or if we had to, maybe they&#8217;d be crazy enough to take on Vlade &#8211; he&#8217;d be balling in Sac  haha. We could also catch Shareef in that deal.</p>
<p>Anyways, i&#8217;m just thinking outloud. The idea of Odom coming off the bench &#8211; with Ariza starting &#8211; is probably the best TEAM we&#8217;re going to put together. I like it &#8211; to those who all said it earlier. This team really is going to have grown by next year, especially with Big Bynum. He&#8217;s that fire that we need on the court when it&#8217;s lacking. I have supreme confidence in his abilty to do what we need him to do. I wouldn&#8217;t even put it past him to develop a little jumpshot game about 8-10 feet out. And we should give him a nice contract, as Kurt suggested earlier.</p>
<p>My only question is &#8211; Do we want another guard or do we want a big body in the draft / free agency or something? I say the latter &#8211; one that complements Turiaf; little low post game. Rebounds defends well. That would solidify our bench to the ninth degree. </p>
<p>Lakers will be holding that trophy &#8211; and I&#8217;m pulling for LO to be there. He definitely</p>
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		<title>By: kev</title>
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		<dc:creator>kev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 02:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone notice that Perkins thinks he has never committed a foul in his life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone notice that Perkins thinks he has never committed a foul in his life.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laker Pauer I couldn&#039;t have said it better myself!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laker Pauer I couldn&#8217;t have said it better myself!</p>
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		<title>By: Paintitgreen</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2008/06/09/the-dark-lord/comment-page-4/#comment-573614</link>
		<dc:creator>Paintitgreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>153 - I have been a bit upset about the fact that a lot of fans on our blogs are chalking Game 3 up as a loss because of the Salvatore-Crawford-Wunderlich assignment (particularly Salvatore). The thing is, I expect something similar to Game 2. I thought there was one overwhelmingly bad stretch of officiating in the second quarter, which can be attributed to incompetence, corruption, conspiracy or home cooking. Whatever the reason, I expect one for the Lakers tonight. But if it happens, the Celtics need to show mental strength, like they did in Game 6 v. Detroit, and play through it. Hopefully (for me), they pull through and win. 

I agree with you and Laker Pauer (and probably others), it really sucks that we have to defend the last win, you have to respond to comments about the Barry call and past championships, and we all expect officials to make up for any bad calls against the Lakers in Game 2 by making bad calls against the Celtics tonight. We all want the same thing - consistency, and for the NBA to stop treating us like we&#039;ll only watch if the series/game is kept close. We want to see the two best teams play. And that doesn&#039;t happen nearly enough in any NBA series. Whether it evens out or not, it sucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>153 &#8211; I have been a bit upset about the fact that a lot of fans on our blogs are chalking Game 3 up as a loss because of the Salvatore-Crawford-Wunderlich assignment (particularly Salvatore). The thing is, I expect something similar to Game 2. I thought there was one overwhelmingly bad stretch of officiating in the second quarter, which can be attributed to incompetence, corruption, conspiracy or home cooking. Whatever the reason, I expect one for the Lakers tonight. But if it happens, the Celtics need to show mental strength, like they did in Game 6 v. Detroit, and play through it. Hopefully (for me), they pull through and win. </p>
<p>I agree with you and Laker Pauer (and probably others), it really sucks that we have to defend the last win, you have to respond to comments about the Barry call and past championships, and we all expect officials to make up for any bad calls against the Lakers in Game 2 by making bad calls against the Celtics tonight. We all want the same thing &#8211; consistency, and for the NBA to stop treating us like we&#8217;ll only watch if the series/game is kept close. We want to see the two best teams play. And that doesn&#8217;t happen nearly enough in any NBA series. Whether it evens out or not, it sucks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Merlino</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2008/06/09/the-dark-lord/comment-page-4/#comment-573609</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Merlino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has to be pretty darn unnerving when all the pundits pick your team to roll through the opponent and then BAM, you find out that these guys are for real.  Next thing you know you are down two and making excuses out of whole cloth.  Your about to play your first home game and the gnawing anxiety that if we lose this one, something surely has to be out of whack in the cosmos must be at play here.  Don&#039;t for one minute attribute the sucess of the other team to hard work and desire.  Yep it must be cheating.  First the officials and now the coaching.  Pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has to be pretty darn unnerving when all the pundits pick your team to roll through the opponent and then BAM, you find out that these guys are for real.  Next thing you know you are down two and making excuses out of whole cloth.  Your about to play your first home game and the gnawing anxiety that if we lose this one, something surely has to be out of whack in the cosmos must be at play here.  Don&#8217;t for one minute attribute the sucess of the other team to hard work and desire.  Yep it must be cheating.  First the officials and now the coaching.  Pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Laker Pauer</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2008/06/09/the-dark-lord/comment-page-4/#comment-573586</link>
		<dc:creator>Laker Pauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>4 or 5? you&#039;re kidding- http://youtube.com/watch?v=IUtf6-avo2c

The Celtics are playing great and I won&#039;t take that away from them, but the last game was a joke. I&#039;m freely willing to admit that the Lakers have been given games as well. LA/SAC game 6 in 2002 is a perfect example. 

That kind of crap hurts the game for everyone. It sucks that C&#039;s fans have to come in here and defend their victory. It shouldn&#039;t be up for debate. Unfortunately, it is and you have the refs to blame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4 or 5? you&#8217;re kidding- <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=IUtf6-avo2c" rel="nofollow">http://youtube.com/watch?v=IUtf6-avo2c</a></p>
<p>The Celtics are playing great and I won&#8217;t take that away from them, but the last game was a joke. I&#8217;m freely willing to admit that the Lakers have been given games as well. LA/SAC game 6 in 2002 is a perfect example. </p>
<p>That kind of crap hurts the game for everyone. It sucks that C&#8217;s fans have to come in here and defend their victory. It shouldn&#8217;t be up for debate. Unfortunately, it is and you have the refs to blame.</p>
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		<title>By: whalleywhat</title>
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		<dc:creator>whalleywhat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can always rely on Laker fans to be watching a different game than you are. I saw maybe 4 or 5 problematic calls the whole game, which is par for the course in an NBA game, although that 2nd one on Kobe early is probably what set the paranoid gears turning in your heads. Anyways, I just wanted to congratulate you on finding a way to whine about the missed call on Derek Fisher in a post whining about the missed calls on Celtics. You&#039;ve clearly learned from the Spin Master, Phil Jackson. Funny that the Celtics have run this same defense all season and all post-season, and his vision has been the first to grasp its &quot;illusory&quot; nature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can always rely on Laker fans to be watching a different game than you are. I saw maybe 4 or 5 problematic calls the whole game, which is par for the course in an NBA game, although that 2nd one on Kobe early is probably what set the paranoid gears turning in your heads. Anyways, I just wanted to congratulate you on finding a way to whine about the missed call on Derek Fisher in a post whining about the missed calls on Celtics. You&#8217;ve clearly learned from the Spin Master, Phil Jackson. Funny that the Celtics have run this same defense all season and all post-season, and his vision has been the first to grasp its &#8220;illusory&#8221; nature.</p>
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		<title>By: DTC</title>
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		<dc:creator>DTC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is one Laker fan who will admit what he was thinking during the Lakers-Jazz game so many people are citing:

&quot;Wow, they are really calling every little slap and bump by Jazz players, if Sloan goes haywire on the refs soon, I wouldn&#039;t blame him. As a Laker fan I&#039;ll take those free throws, but it makes me feel a little guilty inside knowing many of those fouls were incredibly weak&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is one Laker fan who will admit what he was thinking during the Lakers-Jazz game so many people are citing:</p>
<p>&#8220;Wow, they are really calling every little slap and bump by Jazz players, if Sloan goes haywire on the refs soon, I wouldn&#8217;t blame him. As a Laker fan I&#8217;ll take those free throws, but it makes me feel a little guilty inside knowing many of those fouls were incredibly weak&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Laker Pauer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laker Pauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The difference Mark Z, is that, while I agree that it was an awful call in game 5, it was one call. The entire last game was bogus. I include the Laker comeback in that too. The Lakers got a bunch of BS calls late in the game. I think the officiating needs to get better and hopefully all the attention this game got will force something of an overhaul. They need to implement something to keep the game honest and indisputable. There&#039;s a poll on nbc.com that has 57% of people thinking the NBA is rigged. That&#039;s a huge problem for the sport in general regardless of whether it is true or not. 

I think game 2 is even more damaging because of the enormous stage it is on. This is for all the marbles and the officiating needs to be accurate here. Donaghy was a huge deal and things like this just feed the fire. Even the Celtics and Lakers making it to the finals is a pretty suspicious turn of events for people on the outside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference Mark Z, is that, while I agree that it was an awful call in game 5, it was one call. The entire last game was bogus. I include the Laker comeback in that too. The Lakers got a bunch of BS calls late in the game. I think the officiating needs to get better and hopefully all the attention this game got will force something of an overhaul. They need to implement something to keep the game honest and indisputable. There&#8217;s a poll on nbc.com that has 57% of people thinking the NBA is rigged. That&#8217;s a huge problem for the sport in general regardless of whether it is true or not. </p>
<p>I think game 2 is even more damaging because of the enormous stage it is on. This is for all the marbles and the officiating needs to be accurate here. Donaghy was a huge deal and things like this just feed the fire. Even the Celtics and Lakers making it to the finals is a pretty suspicious turn of events for people on the outside.</p>
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