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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2008/10/03/fast-break-thoughts-37/comment-page-1/#comment-580964</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 11:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Kurt, the ownership is a mess (although I think Ashley is better than Shepard) and will continue to cause Newcastle problems until it&#039;s solved. Newcastle have no hopes of winning anything meaningful until changes are made. On the bright side the club is for sale so there&#039;s a good chance of new leadership and hopefully it&#039;s good leadership.

Short term the more worrying situation is relegation ...  Right now Newcastle are every team&#039;s favourite squad to play. Many teams feel they&#039;re easy pickings .... and Joe Kinnear is someone who can light a fire under his troops and get some fighting spirit back into the camp, which should give them a shot of avoiding the drop. He&#039;s a good hire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Kurt, the ownership is a mess (although I think Ashley is better than Shepard) and will continue to cause Newcastle problems until it&#8217;s solved. Newcastle have no hopes of winning anything meaningful until changes are made. On the bright side the club is for sale so there&#8217;s a good chance of new leadership and hopefully it&#8217;s good leadership.</p>
<p>Short term the more worrying situation is relegation &#8230;  Right now Newcastle are every team&#8217;s favourite squad to play. Many teams feel they&#8217;re easy pickings &#8230;. and Joe Kinnear is someone who can light a fire under his troops and get some fighting spirit back into the camp, which should give them a shot of avoiding the drop. He&#8217;s a good hire.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 03:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>29. I believe that organizations win from the top down. Without good ownership, no franchise in any sport will win consistently. Ownership is the first thing Newcastle has to straighten out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>29. I believe that organizations win from the top down. Without good ownership, no franchise in any sport will win consistently. Ownership is the first thing Newcastle has to straighten out.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 00:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe Kinnear will do a job for Newcastle. He&#039;ll fill the squad with a bit of badly needed pride and passion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Kinnear will do a job for Newcastle. He&#8217;ll fill the squad with a bit of badly needed pride and passion.</p>
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		<title>By: RT</title>
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		<dc:creator>RT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a Newcastle fan too, and the constant turmoil is enough to make me ponder forswearing the club.  It&#039;ll be a miracle if the team doesn&#039;t get relegated this season.  

I&#039;m also a Michigan alum, so this sports season has already been rough, and promises to be rougher, with the Ducks&#039; owner maybe heading to jail over stock backdating and the Kings being typically abysmal.  

At least the Dodgers are still in it, and the Lakers are going to be entertaining, or this would be a miserable sports year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a Newcastle fan too, and the constant turmoil is enough to make me ponder forswearing the club.  It&#8217;ll be a miracle if the team doesn&#8217;t get relegated this season.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also a Michigan alum, so this sports season has already been rough, and promises to be rougher, with the Ducks&#8217; owner maybe heading to jail over stock backdating and the Kings being typically abysmal.  </p>
<p>At least the Dodgers are still in it, and the Lakers are going to be entertaining, or this would be a miserable sports year.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 19:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Busterjonez,
Phil is prob trying to keep Bynum focused on what&#039;s important to the team,whereas Bynum may be thinking he has to get big numbers to justify a max-type contract. 
All young Centers who want to be great want to get touches. And 20/10 is the new Gold Standard for big men. Plus he has to feel it&#039;s not that much of a stretch as he should get 3-4 garbage baskets a game-offensive rebounds,loose balls,passes deflected he gathers in,etc. That means he only needs 5-6 baskets on a dozen or so possesions out of 75-80 in a game. He prob realizes when he,Kobe and Gasol are on the court he&#039;s pretty far down on the pecking order. But he wants to move up when one of them is not on the court.
Phil wants to manage his expectations-and that of his advisors,friends,agent-and to let him know that he&#039;ll still get pd if he does everything else.
The Lakers will try and lock him up early because they don&#039;t want the people Bynum listens to outside the team tell him all season he has to put up big numbers to get the big contract.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Busterjonez,<br />
Phil is prob trying to keep Bynum focused on what&#8217;s important to the team,whereas Bynum may be thinking he has to get big numbers to justify a max-type contract.<br />
All young Centers who want to be great want to get touches. And 20/10 is the new Gold Standard for big men. Plus he has to feel it&#8217;s not that much of a stretch as he should get 3-4 garbage baskets a game-offensive rebounds,loose balls,passes deflected he gathers in,etc. That means he only needs 5-6 baskets on a dozen or so possesions out of 75-80 in a game. He prob realizes when he,Kobe and Gasol are on the court he&#8217;s pretty far down on the pecking order. But he wants to move up when one of them is not on the court.<br />
Phil wants to manage his expectations-and that of his advisors,friends,agent-and to let him know that he&#8217;ll still get pd if he does everything else.<br />
The Lakers will try and lock him up early because they don&#8217;t want the people Bynum listens to outside the team tell him all season he has to put up big numbers to get the big contract.</p>
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		<title>By: busterjonez</title>
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		<dc:creator>busterjonez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 17:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember that Phil rarely tips his hand when talking about players. He&#039;ll say things to needle players and motivate them, sure, but never strategery.

I can&#039;t see why Bynum would not be a focal part of the offense. Who can guard him, especially when Kobe and Pau are on the floor too? No double team for Bynum means an incredible scoring opportunity. Phil always looks for mismatches, right? Bynum is now bigger than 90% of NBA centers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember that Phil rarely tips his hand when talking about players. He&#8217;ll say things to needle players and motivate them, sure, but never strategery.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t see why Bynum would not be a focal part of the offense. Who can guard him, especially when Kobe and Pau are on the floor too? No double team for Bynum means an incredible scoring opportunity. Phil always looks for mismatches, right? Bynum is now bigger than 90% of NBA centers.</p>
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		<title>By: ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 14:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some good news on Mihm who says he has no pain in his ankles or feet and is in shape for the first time in 3 years.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-sp-lakers5-2008oct05,0,5214326.story?track=rss


Lakers center Chris Mihm is back healthy
Andrew D. Bernstein / Getty Images

After three surgeries in three years, Lakers center Chris Mihm says he&#039;s playing above the rym again.
After three surgeries and countless frustrating moments because of right ankle problems, he says he’s fit and ‘playing above the rim again.’</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some good news on Mihm who says he has no pain in his ankles or feet and is in shape for the first time in 3 years.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-sp-lakers5-2008oct05,0,5214326.story?track=rss" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-sp-lakers5-2008oct05,0,5214326.story?track=rss</a></p>
<p>Lakers center Chris Mihm is back healthy<br />
Andrew D. Bernstein / Getty Images</p>
<p>After three surgeries in three years, Lakers center Chris Mihm says he&#8217;s playing above the rym again.<br />
After three surgeries and countless frustrating moments because of right ankle problems, he says he’s fit and ‘playing above the rim again.’</p>
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		<title>By: Mamula</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mamula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 22:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats Kurt, I love this forum, and try to access it as often as I can and read everyone&#039;s contributions.

I agree that LO is a serious issue, but he is definitely NOT A PROBLEM! Lakers do not really have problems, other than deciding who is going to be utilized and how... Most teams would sell big chunk of their tickets for free to have the players of Lakers qualities.

LO is an issue because he represents a decision that needs to be addressed and made soon. His contract expires and Lakers must decide if it is strategically correct to keep him. Notice I used word strategically, as Lakers will be facing severe financial limitations and burdens with Bynum and Kobe (max territory), Pau (almost Max) and Farmar and Ariza (their value is yet to be determined) potentially carrying a big chunk of the payroll and limiting Lakers chances to pursue free agents and avoid luxury bills.

LO is not a problem because, the Lakers are definitely better by having him. Many people have pointed to Lamar&#039;s skills/weaknesses and I think that when a player like Lamar is the biggest concern for your team (as compared to lack of frontcourt/backcourt depth, lack of shooting, and other problems), things must be really going for you. There are 3 things Lakers can do with LO:

1) Let Lamar play out the season and let him walk for free after it: This option is justifiable and makes sense only from financial considerations. In terms of talent, Lamar is certainly too skilled to be lost for nothing. In that sense (financial vs. talent considerations) Lakers have the luxury of half a season to make a decision, which brings me to

2) Trade Lamar at the mid-season transfer window in a package with a bad contract (Luke? RadMan?) in exchange for any combination of defensive 3-point specialist small forward ( a la Bowen), future draft picks, young talent and expiring contracts and/or hard rebounding energy power forward with good defensive instincts and basketball IQ. In this case, the decision is between financial considerations (more tax burdens from incoming contracts) vs. personnel issues (integrating new pieces into the system during half season and also giving away Lamar to a potential opponent, this issue has been raised already). This scenario has a life-span of 6 months and is pretty much a Yes/No question. Considering Lamar&#039;s personality, relationship with the team, depth of the team and positive balance of his cost-benefit analysis, LO should be given at least a full year of trial period to be extended (or not) in the summer&#039;09, which logically leads to

3) Adjust Lamar to the power game of Andrew, finesse game of Pau and everything of Kobe and use this season as a preparation for settling LO in a comfortable role where he can feel good and be as productive as he can be. Then, next summer, re-sign Lamar and have the most unguardable league in the league with potentially 4 All-star caliber (caliber being the key word) players. 

So those are the three options. Lakers do not have to choose just yet. They have everything going for them: Happy Kobe, emerging Bynum, flourishing Pau, ultra-reliable Fish, growing youngsters, accumulation of grit and experience, developing inside/outside game opportunities, tempting half court/transition offense, and credible belief that defense will be much better with Pau and/or Pau manning the middle. I think this is the happiest days in the Lakerland since Karl Malone and Gary Payton brought high hopes of four-peating with Shaq and Kobe. I can not say which options from the above 3 the Lakers will opt for, but I have full faith in this organization&#039;s and its managements ability to decide what&#039;s right for the cause of taking advantage of all the leverages available to convert Lakers into one of the dominating teams (dynasties???) for years to come.

I agree lack of regular season shifts our attention and fantasies into &quot;what if&quot; and alike situations, and that is a good thing, after all that is why this is a Blog and why Kurt has gotten the appreciation that he was long due for.

I think we are really over obsesssing with LO though. I would love to and personally request that we have articles/topics about some other players (i.e Derek Fisher, Jordan Farmar and others) so that we can properly gear up for this season, which will soon be knocking on the door.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats Kurt, I love this forum, and try to access it as often as I can and read everyone&#8217;s contributions.</p>
<p>I agree that LO is a serious issue, but he is definitely NOT A PROBLEM! Lakers do not really have problems, other than deciding who is going to be utilized and how&#8230; Most teams would sell big chunk of their tickets for free to have the players of Lakers qualities.</p>
<p>LO is an issue because he represents a decision that needs to be addressed and made soon. His contract expires and Lakers must decide if it is strategically correct to keep him. Notice I used word strategically, as Lakers will be facing severe financial limitations and burdens with Bynum and Kobe (max territory), Pau (almost Max) and Farmar and Ariza (their value is yet to be determined) potentially carrying a big chunk of the payroll and limiting Lakers chances to pursue free agents and avoid luxury bills.</p>
<p>LO is not a problem because, the Lakers are definitely better by having him. Many people have pointed to Lamar&#8217;s skills/weaknesses and I think that when a player like Lamar is the biggest concern for your team (as compared to lack of frontcourt/backcourt depth, lack of shooting, and other problems), things must be really going for you. There are 3 things Lakers can do with LO:</p>
<p>1) Let Lamar play out the season and let him walk for free after it: This option is justifiable and makes sense only from financial considerations. In terms of talent, Lamar is certainly too skilled to be lost for nothing. In that sense (financial vs. talent considerations) Lakers have the luxury of half a season to make a decision, which brings me to</p>
<p>2) Trade Lamar at the mid-season transfer window in a package with a bad contract (Luke? RadMan?) in exchange for any combination of defensive 3-point specialist small forward ( a la Bowen), future draft picks, young talent and expiring contracts and/or hard rebounding energy power forward with good defensive instincts and basketball IQ. In this case, the decision is between financial considerations (more tax burdens from incoming contracts) vs. personnel issues (integrating new pieces into the system during half season and also giving away Lamar to a potential opponent, this issue has been raised already). This scenario has a life-span of 6 months and is pretty much a Yes/No question. Considering Lamar&#8217;s personality, relationship with the team, depth of the team and positive balance of his cost-benefit analysis, LO should be given at least a full year of trial period to be extended (or not) in the summer&#8217;09, which logically leads to</p>
<p>3) Adjust Lamar to the power game of Andrew, finesse game of Pau and everything of Kobe and use this season as a preparation for settling LO in a comfortable role where he can feel good and be as productive as he can be. Then, next summer, re-sign Lamar and have the most unguardable league in the league with potentially 4 All-star caliber (caliber being the key word) players. </p>
<p>So those are the three options. Lakers do not have to choose just yet. They have everything going for them: Happy Kobe, emerging Bynum, flourishing Pau, ultra-reliable Fish, growing youngsters, accumulation of grit and experience, developing inside/outside game opportunities, tempting half court/transition offense, and credible belief that defense will be much better with Pau and/or Pau manning the middle. I think this is the happiest days in the Lakerland since Karl Malone and Gary Payton brought high hopes of four-peating with Shaq and Kobe. I can not say which options from the above 3 the Lakers will opt for, but I have full faith in this organization&#8217;s and its managements ability to decide what&#8217;s right for the cause of taking advantage of all the leverages available to convert Lakers into one of the dominating teams (dynasties???) for years to come.</p>
<p>I agree lack of regular season shifts our attention and fantasies into &#8220;what if&#8221; and alike situations, and that is a good thing, after all that is why this is a Blog and why Kurt has gotten the appreciation that he was long due for.</p>
<p>I think we are really over obsesssing with LO though. I would love to and personally request that we have articles/topics about some other players (i.e Derek Fisher, Jordan Farmar and others) so that we can properly gear up for this season, which will soon be knocking on the door.</p>
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		<title>By: harold</title>
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		<dc:creator>harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 21:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>congrats!  also, nothing more pleasing to me than to see the dodgers too, since CHP is there (although in very limited form).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>congrats!  also, nothing more pleasing to me than to see the dodgers too, since CHP is there (although in very limited form).</p>
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		<title>By: busterjonez</title>
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		<dc:creator>busterjonez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 16:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations on the well-deserved accolades Kurt. Even though you try to defuse credit, you are the one that provides the support structure for the community.</description>
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