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		<title>By: bj</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2008/11/17/experimenting-with-the-offense/comment-page-1/#comment-584478</link>
		<dc:creator>bj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 01:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice triangle offense</description>
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		<title>By: wondahbap</title>
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		<dc:creator>wondahbap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>POSITION.  Misspelled it twice. haha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>POSITION.  Misspelled it twice. haha</p>
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		<title>By: wondahbap</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2008/11/17/experimenting-with-the-offense/comment-page-1/#comment-583934</link>
		<dc:creator>wondahbap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with most of the assesments on Fish and Radman, but I also think Pau and Bynum are holding the ball too long trying to establish posistion.  Especially when they haven&#039;t established &quot;good&quot; postition.  The other players have been stuck watching instead of cutting, mostly when Bynum is getting doubled.  That&#039;s a perfect opportunity to pass to a cutter, and Bynum is forcing it a bit.  He needs to get deeper and not settle for what the defender allows him, stop relying on length, and be more aware when he does have the ball.  He seems to be rushing.  I know it&#039;s early, and he starts slow, but once quick decisions are made, then he will get the ball in much better situations once the ball is reposted or swung around and defensive rotations allow for an easy pass to him or Pau.  The inside out game has to be improved for the offense to work right.  

That being said, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s time to worry.  They all had a bad game, and that&#039;s the only way they should lose this year.  Great games from the opposing team, (like those awesome shots Prince and Wallace) and our guys playing like crap.  It won&#039;t happen too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with most of the assesments on Fish and Radman, but I also think Pau and Bynum are holding the ball too long trying to establish posistion.  Especially when they haven&#8217;t established &#8220;good&#8221; postition.  The other players have been stuck watching instead of cutting, mostly when Bynum is getting doubled.  That&#8217;s a perfect opportunity to pass to a cutter, and Bynum is forcing it a bit.  He needs to get deeper and not settle for what the defender allows him, stop relying on length, and be more aware when he does have the ball.  He seems to be rushing.  I know it&#8217;s early, and he starts slow, but once quick decisions are made, then he will get the ball in much better situations once the ball is reposted or swung around and defensive rotations allow for an easy pass to him or Pau.  The inside out game has to be improved for the offense to work right.  </p>
<p>That being said, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s time to worry.  They all had a bad game, and that&#8217;s the only way they should lose this year.  Great games from the opposing team, (like those awesome shots Prince and Wallace) and our guys playing like crap.  It won&#8217;t happen too much.</p>
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		<title>By: Renato Afonso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renato Afonso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill,

The two-man game on the weak side of the Triangle is actually the 2nd option of the triangle, when they are set like that (1st one being getting the ball to the guy who comes from the corner and curls for an open middle range jumper). What the Lakers are indeed lacking is having the guy at top of the key (hmmm, let&#039;s call it Kobe) get the ball from the high post player and actually making a dribble backwards and waiting for the cuts from the other side. This offsets the entire defense as they tend to start doing more lateral movement...

So, although Vald&#039;s length is important for defensive purposes , having Luke in the starting lineup and playing the top of the guy, could give us the ball rotation we need.

Still, I like winning the games with defense and having the 2nd unit really carve the difference... it&#039;s more reliable. I want to see how we behave against Cleveland and Boston before hitting the &quot;uh-oh, something&#039;s not right&quot; button.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>The two-man game on the weak side of the Triangle is actually the 2nd option of the triangle, when they are set like that (1st one being getting the ball to the guy who comes from the corner and curls for an open middle range jumper). What the Lakers are indeed lacking is having the guy at top of the key (hmmm, let&#8217;s call it Kobe) get the ball from the high post player and actually making a dribble backwards and waiting for the cuts from the other side. This offsets the entire defense as they tend to start doing more lateral movement&#8230;</p>
<p>So, although Vald&#8217;s length is important for defensive purposes , having Luke in the starting lineup and playing the top of the guy, could give us the ball rotation we need.</p>
<p>Still, I like winning the games with defense and having the 2nd unit really carve the difference&#8230; it&#8217;s more reliable. I want to see how we behave against Cleveland and Boston before hitting the &#8220;uh-oh, something&#8217;s not right&#8221; button.</p>
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		<title>By: harold</title>
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		<dc:creator>harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 08:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly I think trade comments should only be allowed (if ever) during the off-season.  It diminishes the love for your team if you keep wishing for players from other teams.  You gotta have joy in watching players grow and seeing that magical moment where they defy statistics and get involved in a key play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly I think trade comments should only be allowed (if ever) during the off-season.  It diminishes the love for your team if you keep wishing for players from other teams.  You gotta have joy in watching players grow and seeing that magical moment where they defy statistics and get involved in a key play.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 07:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, new post up from Gatinho on the passing of Pete Newell.</description>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 07:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys, I took a night off to do something important (watch the new season of Top Chef, for one) so I was a little late to the party, but now I have deleted the trade comment (as well as a couple direct responses to said comment, which were fine but lost all context without the first post). We do not have trade speculation on this site, sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, I took a night off to do something important (watch the new season of Top Chef, for one) so I was a little late to the party, but now I have deleted the trade comment (as well as a couple direct responses to said comment, which were fine but lost all context without the first post). We do not have trade speculation on this site, sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: drrayeye</title>
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		<dc:creator>drrayeye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 05:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love all of the analyses being presented, but I don&#039;t see any compelling argument for any change in the lineup.  That just feels very premature to me.

Phil can, and does, stagger the substitution of the bench squad to accomplish most of Bill&#039;s objectives already.  For example, Trevor clearly owns the 3 position without being a starter.  Lamar can substitute in at the 4, with Pau moving to the 5.  Bynum can substitute in to the bench squad and get some special passes from Farmar.

I believe that many of the problems facing the starting five will disappear as the team finds ways to get Bynum the ball inside more consistently in the right place.  As long as the defense can keep their focus, the Lakers will be OK.  7-1 was no fluke.

Let&#039;s watch Andrew continue to develop his game inside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love all of the analyses being presented, but I don&#8217;t see any compelling argument for any change in the lineup.  That just feels very premature to me.</p>
<p>Phil can, and does, stagger the substitution of the bench squad to accomplish most of Bill&#8217;s objectives already.  For example, Trevor clearly owns the 3 position without being a starter.  Lamar can substitute in at the 4, with Pau moving to the 5.  Bynum can substitute in to the bench squad and get some special passes from Farmar.</p>
<p>I believe that many of the problems facing the starting five will disappear as the team finds ways to get Bynum the ball inside more consistently in the right place.  As long as the defense can keep their focus, the Lakers will be OK.  7-1 was no fluke.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s watch Andrew continue to develop his game inside.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 04:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, exhelodrvr ... my question was essentially rhetorical:  I get what Bill Bridges was saying, I just don&#039;t happen to agree.  I think blowing out inferior competition is a useful way to measure what makes a quality team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, exhelodrvr &#8230; my question was essentially rhetorical:  I get what Bill Bridges was saying, I just don&#8217;t happen to agree.  I think blowing out inferior competition is a useful way to measure what makes a quality team.</p>
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		<title>By: exhelodrvr</title>
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		<dc:creator>exhelodrvr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 04:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel,

His point is that those games weren&#039;t good tests of what this team is capable of and aren&#039;t good reference points for the strengths and weaknesses of this team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel,</p>
<p>His point is that those games weren&#8217;t good tests of what this team is capable of and aren&#8217;t good reference points for the strengths and weaknesses of this team.</p>
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