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		<title>By: MannyP13</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2008/12/22/my-message-to-lakers-fans/comment-page-2/#comment-588199</link>
		<dc:creator>MannyP13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>17ismore - a &quot;lie&quot; implies intentional of false facts.  A &quot;liar&quot; is someone who lies.  To &quot;mischaracterize&quot; is to take a fact and interpret it mistankenly (i.e. accidentally) interpret it in a different manner.   So far example, your last comment is a &quot;lie&quot; and therefore, you are a &quot;liar&quot;.

Kurt is a pretty stand up guy.  He runs a fair and balanced forum.  That&#039;s why you don&#039;t see non-stop Celtics bashing or B.S. trade stories here.  What he did before was merely offer his opinion based on some stats.  You are free to agree or disagree, but arguing that he is intentionally fabricating facts is just plain wrong - or a plain &quot;lie.&quot;  

Also, this is a LAKER fan-site-  Perhaps you should consider visiting a Celtic fan site if all you are looking for are Celtic accolades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>17ismore &#8211; a &#8220;lie&#8221; implies intentional of false facts.  A &#8220;liar&#8221; is someone who lies.  To &#8220;mischaracterize&#8221; is to take a fact and interpret it mistankenly (i.e. accidentally) interpret it in a different manner.   So far example, your last comment is a &#8220;lie&#8221; and therefore, you are a &#8220;liar&#8221;.</p>
<p>Kurt is a pretty stand up guy.  He runs a fair and balanced forum.  That&#8217;s why you don&#8217;t see non-stop Celtics bashing or B.S. trade stories here.  What he did before was merely offer his opinion based on some stats.  You are free to agree or disagree, but arguing that he is intentionally fabricating facts is just plain wrong &#8211; or a plain &#8220;lie.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Also, this is a LAKER fan-site-  Perhaps you should consider visiting a Celtic fan site if all you are looking for are Celtic accolades.</p>
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		<title>By: 17ismore</title>
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		<dc:creator>17ismore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I apologize for my mischaracterization.</description>
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		<title>By: 17ismore</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2008/12/22/my-message-to-lakers-fans/comment-page-2/#comment-588196</link>
		<dc:creator>17ismore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it’s not wise to call the site moderator a liar. 

What if he presents misleading information to bolster his argument? &quot;Liar&quot; is a pretty mundane word on the scale of insults. But you know what, I should have said your point was a &quot;lie&quot; not that you&#039;re a &quot;liar&quot; because being a liar suggests a continued pattern of telling lies. That&#039;s probably inaccurate, since you are a moderator and seem to have a pretty balanced perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it’s not wise to call the site moderator a liar. </p>
<p>What if he presents misleading information to bolster his argument? &#8220;Liar&#8221; is a pretty mundane word on the scale of insults. But you know what, I should have said your point was a &#8220;lie&#8221; not that you&#8217;re a &#8220;liar&#8221; because being a liar suggests a continued pattern of telling lies. That&#8217;s probably inaccurate, since you are a moderator and seem to have a pretty balanced perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: The Adviser</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2008/12/22/my-message-to-lakers-fans/comment-page-2/#comment-588156</link>
		<dc:creator>The Adviser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 10:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take a look at this for the whole playing-minutes-thingy: http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=24314
Have fun, friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a look at this for the whole playing-minutes-thingy: <a href="http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=24314" rel="nofollow">http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=24314</a><br />
Have fun, friends.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2008/12/22/my-message-to-lakers-fans/comment-page-2/#comment-588152</link>
		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 08:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simply, I took the minutes the Celtics big three are playing now and their season averages for last year. If that is an inaccurate picture, so be it, but that&#039;s how I got the number, which I picked up after the LA Times lead NBA writer had it in a column.

And, for the Celtics fan who is going to ask what happened to his comment, it&#039;s not wise to call the site moderator a liar. You can make your point and be civil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simply, I took the minutes the Celtics big three are playing now and their season averages for last year. If that is an inaccurate picture, so be it, but that&#8217;s how I got the number, which I picked up after the LA Times lead NBA writer had it in a column.</p>
<p>And, for the Celtics fan who is going to ask what happened to his comment, it&#8217;s not wise to call the site moderator a liar. You can make your point and be civil.</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 04:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JR, you are spot on with your analysis of the minutes for the C&#039;s big 3.  Also not only was Ray coming off his double ankle surgery last year and looking much fresher this year, Pierce was also coming off his big injury from the season prior as well and lost roughly 10 pounds or so going into this year as well looking much fresher.  To help compensate for the loss of Posey you have 5 youngsters who have improved their play Perkins, Rondo, T Allen, BBD, and Powe.  Especially Rondo who has had a triple double recently and could be a borderline all star this year in his own right.  Fisher will have his hands full with him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JR, you are spot on with your analysis of the minutes for the C&#8217;s big 3.  Also not only was Ray coming off his double ankle surgery last year and looking much fresher this year, Pierce was also coming off his big injury from the season prior as well and lost roughly 10 pounds or so going into this year as well looking much fresher.  To help compensate for the loss of Posey you have 5 youngsters who have improved their play Perkins, Rondo, T Allen, BBD, and Powe.  Especially Rondo who has had a triple double recently and could be a borderline all star this year in his own right.  Fisher will have his hands full with him.</p>
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		<title>By: JR</title>
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		<dc:creator>JR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 02:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Celtics Big-3 are playing WAY less minutes this year than they were at this point last year. Last year&#039;s minutes per game are very misleading, as they take into account the last couple of months when Doc was giving the starters a ton of rest. Last year, up to this point, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen were probably playing about 38-39 minutes a game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Celtics Big-3 are playing WAY less minutes this year than they were at this point last year. Last year&#8217;s minutes per game are very misleading, as they take into account the last couple of months when Doc was giving the starters a ton of rest. Last year, up to this point, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen were probably playing about 38-39 minutes a game.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 23:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s December. You don&#039;t need to flip the switch, you could grow into something over three months and be playing great in March. That is more what I picture than some lightbulb going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s December. You don&#8217;t need to flip the switch, you could grow into something over three months and be playing great in March. That is more what I picture than some lightbulb going on.</p>
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		<title>By: harold</title>
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		<dc:creator>harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 23:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just happen to believe that, just like shooting, dribbling and any other &#039;skills&#039;, a mindset is something that needs to be practiced as well.

The way we&#039;re playing, nothing guarantees that we&#039;ll suddenly flip a switch and play &#039;serious 48 minute ball&#039; come May or June.

Other than the Detroit game, no real blowout losses yet, but no real gut-wrenching, character building wins either...  which is quite disconcerting since it still probably means that our players don&#039;t believe they have to play much harder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just happen to believe that, just like shooting, dribbling and any other &#8216;skills&#8217;, a mindset is something that needs to be practiced as well.</p>
<p>The way we&#8217;re playing, nothing guarantees that we&#8217;ll suddenly flip a switch and play &#8216;serious 48 minute ball&#8217; come May or June.</p>
<p>Other than the Detroit game, no real blowout losses yet, but no real gut-wrenching, character building wins either&#8230;  which is quite disconcerting since it still probably means that our players don&#8217;t believe they have to play much harder.</p>
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		<title>By: wondahbap</title>
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		<dc:creator>wondahbap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 23:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel,  

You beat me to it.  

Chobe,

re: &quot;However, seems like the rest of teams in the NBA are trying to figure themselves out too, it’s a strange year. Once Cleveland’s shooters go cold, it’s over for them.&quot;

You can say the same for every team;  if something goes cold or wrong......etc.  My point is LBJ and Cleveland now have a history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel,  </p>
<p>You beat me to it.  </p>
<p>Chobe,</p>
<p>re: &#8220;However, seems like the rest of teams in the NBA are trying to figure themselves out too, it’s a strange year. Once Cleveland’s shooters go cold, it’s over for them.&#8221;</p>
<p>You can say the same for every team;  if something goes cold or wrong&#8230;&#8230;etc.  My point is LBJ and Cleveland now have a history.</p>
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