Comments on: What I Took Away From Christmas http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2008/12/26/what-i-took-away-from-christmas/ A Lakers Blog. Thoughts, reflections, and the odd rant on the Los Angeles Lakers and the NBA (even the Clippers). Thu, 09 Feb 2012 09:18:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Kurt http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2008/12/26/what-i-took-away-from-christmas/comment-page-2/#comment-588707 Kurt Sun, 28 Dec 2008 16:55:07 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1464#comment-588707 Warriors preview up Warriors preview up

]]> By: wondahbap http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2008/12/26/what-i-took-away-from-christmas/comment-page-2/#comment-588704 wondahbap Sun, 28 Dec 2008 14:33:10 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1464#comment-588704 WildYams, I wish all Celtic fans were like you (we Laker fans have our trolls too). You seem to actually know your stuff, instead of repeating what ever mumbo jumbo the media exaggerates. Usually good coments from you. Nice. I really hope Perk isn't hurt long. I want revenge against the C's, and without him, you guys don't stand a chance against us or Cleveland. WildYams,

I wish all Celtic fans were like you (we Laker fans have our trolls too). You seem to actually know your stuff, instead of repeating what ever mumbo jumbo the media exaggerates. Usually good coments from you. Nice.

I really hope Perk isn’t hurt long. I want revenge against the C’s, and without him, you guys don’t stand a chance against us or Cleveland.

]]> By: Day Travel http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2008/12/26/what-i-took-away-from-christmas/comment-page-2/#comment-588703 Day Travel Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:08:00 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1464#comment-588703 Thank you for you sharing information Thank you for you sharing information

]]> By: CL http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2008/12/26/what-i-took-away-from-christmas/comment-page-2/#comment-588701 CL Sun, 28 Dec 2008 11:18:57 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1464#comment-588701 I figured all of you would like this. The best starting lineup seems to include Odom although +/- isn't 100% accurate. http://www.nba.com/statistics/plusminus/plusminus_sort.jsp?pcomb=5&season=22008&split=9&team=Lakers I figured all of you would like this. The best starting lineup seems to include Odom although +/- isn’t 100% accurate.
http://www.nba.com/statistics/plusminus/plusminus_sort.jsp?pcomb=5&season=22008&split=9&team=Lakers

]]> By: socalcmh http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2008/12/26/what-i-took-away-from-christmas/comment-page-2/#comment-588700 socalcmh Sun, 28 Dec 2008 09:42:00 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1464#comment-588700 this is what i noticed, six months after and hopefully six months before. of the six finals game plus this one, this one was the best game. not because of the outcome but because it was the best played and competitive game the lakers and celtics have played since 1987. the lakers didn't blow any 20+ point leads and the celtics didn't break the game open like four of the six games this past finals. there were eight lead changes in the first quarter alone. celtics by one, lakers by six and lakers by four was the difference after the first, second and third quarters. for one day at least i thought the two teams evenly matched. as it should be. the celtics without pj brown and james posey are not the same team, still good but not as good, or as deep as last year. with bynum back and trevor healthy, the lakers are a better team than they were at the end of last year. the celtics are who they are and unless they make personnel changes are going to be the same team the rest of the way with a high ceiling but little upside. my guess is with a bunch of 30 somethings on their roster, an 82 game season plus postseason will take their toll on them. i wouldn't be surprised at all if cleveland passes them. the lakers are still a work in progress without set rotations and now especially with JF out, are again having to mix and match lineups. that is the beauty of having a deep team. their floor may not be as high as boston's but their ceiling i think higher; because they're younger, deeper and more versatile. i hope for a rematch of last year with the opposite outcome, but if i were a betting man, i'd bet on seeing kobe and lebron in june. not a bad matchup either. ~cmh this is what i noticed, six months after and hopefully six months before. of the six finals game plus this one, this one was the best game. not because of the outcome but because it was the best played and competitive game the lakers and celtics have played since 1987. the lakers didn’t blow any 20+ point leads and the celtics didn’t break the game open like four of the six games this past finals. there were eight lead changes in the first quarter alone. celtics by one, lakers by six and lakers by four was the difference after the first, second and third quarters. for one day at least i thought the two teams evenly matched. as it should be. the celtics without pj brown and james posey are not the same team, still good but not as good, or as deep as last year. with bynum back and trevor healthy, the lakers are a better team than they were at the end of last year. the celtics are who they are and unless they make personnel changes are going to be the same team the rest of the way with a high ceiling but little upside. my guess is with a bunch of 30 somethings on their roster, an 82 game season plus postseason will take their toll on them. i wouldn’t be surprised at all if cleveland passes them. the lakers are still a work in progress without set rotations and now especially with JF out, are again having to mix and match lineups. that is the beauty of having a deep team. their floor may not be as high as boston’s but their ceiling i think higher; because they’re younger, deeper and more versatile. i hope for a rematch of last year with the opposite outcome, but if i were a betting man, i’d bet on seeing kobe and lebron in june. not a bad matchup either.
~cmh

]]> By: Texas Rob http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2008/12/26/what-i-took-away-from-christmas/comment-page-2/#comment-588698 Texas Rob Sun, 28 Dec 2008 07:32:55 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1464#comment-588698 84 . You hit it right on the head...now If we only had the Lukmar Odomton option... 84 . You hit it right on the head…now If we only had the Lukmar Odomton option…

]]> By: Joel R http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2008/12/26/what-i-took-away-from-christmas/comment-page-2/#comment-588697 Joel R Sun, 28 Dec 2008 07:30:53 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1464#comment-588697 Include me in the camp that doesn't feel we need to trade big-for-small (and in the case of a theoretical Mihm-for-Lue swap, big for VERY small), and we certainly don't need to do it right this instant. Tiny sample size, etc., etc., but so far having Sasha and LO bring the ball up and initiate the offense and having Ariza (or Kobe) cover opposing point guards has produced some nice results. On a team this deep, the last thing we need is another fringe member of the rotation fighting for minutes ... I don't really think we'd feel the loss of Mihm all that much, but I also don't see us getting an impact player in return so I'd just as soon stand pat. Include me in the camp that doesn’t feel we need to trade big-for-small (and in the case of a theoretical Mihm-for-Lue swap, big for VERY small), and we certainly don’t need to do it right this instant.

Tiny sample size, etc., etc., but so far having Sasha and LO bring the ball up and initiate the offense and having Ariza (or Kobe) cover opposing point guards has produced some nice results.

On a team this deep, the last thing we need is another fringe member of the rotation fighting for minutes … I don’t really think we’d feel the loss of Mihm all that much, but I also don’t see us getting an impact player in return so I’d just as soon stand pat.

]]> By: Craig W. http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2008/12/26/what-i-took-away-from-christmas/comment-page-2/#comment-588696 Craig W. Sun, 28 Dec 2008 07:11:47 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1464#comment-588696 WildYams, LO is clearly a better talent than is Luke, but he is also less dependable in helping run the team. If you need dominance, put in LO. If you need consistency and no mistakes, put in Luke. At the end of games Phil usually wants consistency and no mistakes - hence Luke. WildYams,
LO is clearly a better talent than is Luke, but he is also less dependable in helping run the team. If you need dominance, put in LO. If you need consistency and no mistakes, put in Luke. At the end of games Phil usually wants consistency and no mistakes – hence Luke.

]]> By: exhelodrvr http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2008/12/26/what-i-took-away-from-christmas/comment-page-2/#comment-588692 exhelodrvr Sun, 28 Dec 2008 04:05:22 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1464#comment-588692 79) "and Odom can facilitate just like Luke can" He's not nearly as good at Luke at that. he is a better defender and rebounder, but he also tends to have brain farts. I think it would depend on the situation. Ariza'a availability would play into it, too. 79) “and Odom can facilitate just like Luke can”
He’s not nearly as good at Luke at that. he is a better defender and rebounder, but he also tends to have brain farts. I think it would depend on the situation. Ariza’a availability would play into it, too.

]]> By: anonymous http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2008/12/26/what-i-took-away-from-christmas/comment-page-2/#comment-588688 anonymous Sun, 28 Dec 2008 02:17:08 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1464#comment-588688 true but if im watching the end of the game im hoping odom doesnt take the ball away from kobe and pau. in luke we know he isnt taking the shot cuz hes trying to pass it all the time. and we know walton isnt handling the ball too much because he realizes its kobe time true but if im watching the end of the game im hoping odom doesnt take the ball away from kobe and pau. in luke we know he isnt taking the shot cuz hes trying to pass it all the time. and we know walton isnt handling the ball too much because he realizes its kobe time

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