Comments on: The Lakers Defense and Other Thoughts http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/01/12/the-lakers-defense-and-other-thoughts/ A Lakers Blog. Thoughts, reflections, and the odd rant on the Los Angeles Lakers and the NBA (even the Clippers). Thu, 09 Feb 2012 10:28:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: P. Ami http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/01/12/the-lakers-defense-and-other-thoughts/comment-page-2/#comment-590678 P. Ami Wed, 14 Jan 2009 01:55:17 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1481#comment-590678 Craig W., I'm guessing the news organization you are talking about currently employs a talking head that used to read the news on SportsCenter? Stephen, We've had some pretty good teams the last decade and then being one of the two premier organizations in the league over its history, I don't remember thinking that Chick was clueless about the opposing team. Okay, I remember him calling Horry Worthy during a fastbreak once but I pray my mind works as well at that age as his did. That said, its not even the homerism that bothers me. Okay, the homerism bothers me, but the phenomenon I was speaking to was just the general incompetence of those who are telling the story of a sports event. They honestly do not understand matchups, strategies, the long term goals of a team or the capabilities of the players they are being paid to tell us about. They are selling a shtick, not knowledge. One of the refreshing things coming from the NBA TV games on Tuesday (otherwise known as Lakers night) is that even as the silliness of Webber and GP interacting can entertain, you'll actually hear one or the other mention some defensive strategy and the other (usually Payton) scrunch up his face and mention quickly how the matchups indicate that the box and 1 isn't a good idea. You actually see these guys consider the real life strengths and weaknesses of their arguments. Again, the strength of this site is in the actual analysis. Craig W.,

I’m guessing the news organization you are talking about currently employs a talking head that used to read the news on SportsCenter?

Stephen,

We’ve had some pretty good teams the last decade and then being one of the two premier organizations in the league over its history, I don’t remember thinking that Chick was clueless about the opposing team. Okay, I remember him calling Horry Worthy during a fastbreak once but I pray my mind works as well at that age as his did. That said, its not even the homerism that bothers me. Okay, the homerism bothers me, but the phenomenon I was speaking to was just the general incompetence of those who are telling the story of a sports event. They honestly do not understand matchups, strategies, the long term goals of a team or the capabilities of the players they are being paid to tell us about. They are selling a shtick, not knowledge. One of the refreshing things coming from the NBA TV games on Tuesday (otherwise known as Lakers night) is that even as the silliness of Webber and GP interacting can entertain, you’ll actually hear one or the other mention some defensive strategy and the other (usually Payton) scrunch up his face and mention quickly how the matchups indicate that the box and 1 isn’t a good idea. You actually see these guys consider the real life strengths and weaknesses of their arguments. Again, the strength of this site is in the actual analysis.

]]> By: ROY http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/01/12/the-lakers-defense-and-other-thoughts/comment-page-2/#comment-590670 ROY Wed, 14 Jan 2009 01:14:19 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1481#comment-590670 GET breakfast at bouchon. Chicken and waffles is mindblowing, the steak and eggs is pretty damn good too GET breakfast at bouchon. Chicken and waffles is mindblowing, the steak and eggs is pretty damn good too

]]> By: Kurt http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/01/12/the-lakers-defense-and-other-thoughts/comment-page-2/#comment-590638 Kurt Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:39:37 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1481#comment-590638 51. Funny, I just finally got my wife one because she asked for it. 51. Funny, I just finally got my wife one because she asked for it.

]]> By: Kurt http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/01/12/the-lakers-defense-and-other-thoughts/comment-page-2/#comment-590637 Kurt Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:39:03 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1481#comment-590637 Rockets preview up Rockets preview up

]]> By: wondahbap http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/01/12/the-lakers-defense-and-other-thoughts/comment-page-2/#comment-590634 wondahbap Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:40:57 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1481#comment-590634 Kurt, I FINALLY ordered an FB & G shirt. Can't wait to get it... Kurt,

I FINALLY ordered an FB & G shirt. Can’t wait to get it…

]]> By: Joe http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/01/12/the-lakers-defense-and-other-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-590632 Joe Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:36:46 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1481#comment-590632 #40, Outscoring the opponent implies all offense and no defense. Thats what the Lakers did to Indiana the other night, not one lick of defense at all yet they still won. Its what the Suns used to do under Mike Ant. In technical terms, yes, you always try to outscore your opponent, but what it implies when it is used is using scoring as the primary tool to beat the opponent. Teams like Boston and Cleveland, and the Spurs arent as focused on "outscoring" their opponent, but rather shutting them down defensievly, that is their number 1 concern. #40, Outscoring the opponent implies all offense and no defense. Thats what the Lakers did to Indiana the other night, not one lick of defense at all yet they still won. Its what the Suns used to do under Mike Ant. In technical terms, yes, you always try to outscore your opponent, but what it implies when it is used is using scoring as the primary tool to beat the opponent. Teams like Boston and Cleveland, and the Spurs arent as focused on “outscoring” their opponent, but rather shutting them down defensievly, that is their number 1 concern.

]]> By: wondahbap http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/01/12/the-lakers-defense-and-other-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-590630 wondahbap Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:20:30 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1481#comment-590630 P. Ami, Yes. There is too much lazy reporting and unfortunately, as I previously commented on another thread, some analysts feel the need to sell the team to their fans or make excuses on why their team is losing. Best (worst) examples are NO and Boston. Then, perception becomes reality, and the fans believe what they're told. P. Ami,

Yes. There is too much lazy reporting and unfortunately, as I previously commented on another thread, some analysts feel the need to sell the team to their fans or make excuses on why their team is losing. Best (worst) examples are NO and Boston.

Then, perception becomes reality, and the fans believe what they’re told.

]]> By: Kevin Pelton http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/01/12/the-lakers-defense-and-other-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-590629 Kevin Pelton Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:02:58 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1481#comment-590629 Especially in college hoops, the three is the great equalizer, and nobody in the country is shooting it better than Cal right now. You can't leave Robertson, Randle or Christopher, so that opens up lanes for them to get to the lane off the bounce. I was really impressed with Kamp against UW. He didn't score at all, but held his own with Brockman in the paint and freed up the perimeter players to do the scoring. I don't know that Cal is good enough defensively to make real big noise, but they're the third-best team in the Pac-10 right now and can beat anybody in the conference on a given night. Especially in college hoops, the three is the great equalizer, and nobody in the country is shooting it better than Cal right now. You can’t leave Robertson, Randle or Christopher, so that opens up lanes for them to get to the lane off the bounce.

I was really impressed with Kamp against UW. He didn’t score at all, but held his own with Brockman in the paint and freed up the perimeter players to do the scoring.

I don’t know that Cal is good enough defensively to make real big noise, but they’re the third-best team in the Pac-10 right now and can beat anybody in the conference on a given night.

]]> By: MannyP13 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/01/12/the-lakers-defense-and-other-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-590627 MannyP13 Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:45:23 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1481#comment-590627 The next 4 games will provide an insight as to how mentally tough this team is. With Farmar, Walton, Odom and Sasha injured the whole team will need to contribute to get past some tough oponents. I'm not saying that we need to win all 4 (or 2 of 4 or whatever) games to prove that we are tought, but what I am saying is that the attitude the team displays will be key. I'd rather see the team fight and lose than play like crap and win with a lucky shot. The former builds character (important for the playoffs) the latter reinforces bad habits. The next 4 games will provide an insight as to how mentally tough this team is. With Farmar, Walton, Odom and Sasha injured the whole team will need to contribute to get past some tough oponents.

I’m not saying that we need to win all 4 (or 2 of 4 or whatever) games to prove that we are tought, but what I am saying is that the attitude the team displays will be key. I’d rather see the team fight and lose than play like crap and win with a lucky shot. The former builds character (important for the playoffs) the latter reinforces bad habits.

]]> By: chris h http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/01/12/the-lakers-defense-and-other-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-590624 chris h Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:09:55 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1481#comment-590624 it's another f-ing tuesday night, so i'm screwed as an nba broadband customer. i'm going to email them and give them a piece of my mind! arrgh it’s another f-ing tuesday night, so i’m screwed as an nba broadband customer. i’m going to email them and give them a piece of my mind!
arrgh

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