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	<title>Comments on: The Curious Career of Glen Rice</title>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/01/15/the-curious-career-of-glen-rice/comment-page-1/#comment-591054</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last night I was watching the Cavs Bulls game, and Lebron had a tough outing.  When he missed the jumper at the end of regulation the guys on espn said that for his carrer he is 2-23, or something like that, in the last 5 seconds of games.  I was curious if anyone knew or knows of a way to find out what kobes stats would be for the last 5 seconds of games. Just for kicks and giggles</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last night I was watching the Cavs Bulls game, and Lebron had a tough outing.  When he missed the jumper at the end of regulation the guys on espn said that for his carrer he is 2-23, or something like that, in the last 5 seconds of games.  I was curious if anyone knew or knows of a way to find out what kobes stats would be for the last 5 seconds of games. Just for kicks and giggles</p>
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		<title>By: tickytack</title>
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		<dc:creator>tickytack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article. 

Personal story. My friend who is a die hard Laker fan framed a Campbell, Jones and Rice jersey in his Laker room with the title &quot;Worst Laker Trade Of All Time&quot;.  We thought for sure we had blown our opportunity for a championship. Glen Rice was a bad fit for the triangle and he became our whipping boy. Deplorable defense, never in the right spot and couldn&#039;t make a shot when we needed one.  Then became a distraction during the Championship. Probably our most hated Laker player. 
P.S, - Vlad is our current whipping boy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. </p>
<p>Personal story. My friend who is a die hard Laker fan framed a Campbell, Jones and Rice jersey in his Laker room with the title &#8220;Worst Laker Trade Of All Time&#8221;.  We thought for sure we had blown our opportunity for a championship. Glen Rice was a bad fit for the triangle and he became our whipping boy. Deplorable defense, never in the right spot and couldn&#8217;t make a shot when we needed one.  Then became a distraction during the Championship. Probably our most hated Laker player.<br />
P.S, &#8211; Vlad is our current whipping boy</p>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for going off topic, but one of Kurt&#039;s favorites, Kelly Dwyer, talks Lakers/Spurs game.

http://tinyurl.com/7vfpk6

I think he&#039;s a little too forgiving of Bynum only getting 3 boards, but maybe that&#039;s because Kelly didn&#039;t remember Bynum only got 1 the night before and averaging under 4 rebounds a game over the last 4 games.

Hopefully the coaches will talk to him about being more active on the boards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for going off topic, but one of Kurt&#8217;s favorites, Kelly Dwyer, talks Lakers/Spurs game.</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/7vfpk6" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/7vfpk6</a></p>
<p>I think he&#8217;s a little too forgiving of Bynum only getting 3 boards, but maybe that&#8217;s because Kelly didn&#8217;t remember Bynum only got 1 the night before and averaging under 4 rebounds a game over the last 4 games.</p>
<p>Hopefully the coaches will talk to him about being more active on the boards.</p>
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		<title>By: MannyP13</title>
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		<dc:creator>MannyP13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that part of Glenn&#039;s problems, sadly, was that he had a very opinionated and strong minded wife.  I say &quot;sadly&quot; because I believe that a lot of his problems were not due to his comments, rather to the comments of his wife and our sports media tends to dislike sports figures who are married to outspoken women or women who outshine their husbands.  Frankly, the sports media seems to be happy with guys that are married to the &quot;strong, silent type&quot; of women who lurk in the shadows of their husbands and don&#039;t ever speak out.  Ironacally, the &quot;strong silent type&quot; tend to be the weakest type of women as these are the type of women that will put up with a cheating husband - exactly the oppossite of what that &quot;strong silent type&quot; stereotype.

I think both Glenn Rice and Doug Christie were two guys that have been a victim of this - but Glenn got it worse because his wife was a bit of a hot head and had a tendency to say politically incorrect things (see the Latrell comment above).   I think this hurt Glenn in the end because the sports media portrayed him as a man that was being manipulated  by his &quot;bitchy&quot; wife - in other words, it made him look &quot;weak&quot; willed and gave his complaints the appearance of being &quot;irrational&quot; - when in fact they may have been valid all along.

Anyway, at the end it looks like Glenn&#039;s problems were really because he did not fit Phil&#039;s system well and, frankly, because Phil did not want to change his system to suit Glenn&#039;s talents.  There is no question that that was a waste of his talent, but the Lakers made a strategic move to suit the offense around their two superstars (Kobe/Shaq).  In the end, chosing Phil as a coach sealed Glenn&#039;s fate - much as chosing DAntoni for NY sealed Marbury&#039;s and Curry&#039;s fate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that part of Glenn&#8217;s problems, sadly, was that he had a very opinionated and strong minded wife.  I say &#8220;sadly&#8221; because I believe that a lot of his problems were not due to his comments, rather to the comments of his wife and our sports media tends to dislike sports figures who are married to outspoken women or women who outshine their husbands.  Frankly, the sports media seems to be happy with guys that are married to the &#8220;strong, silent type&#8221; of women who lurk in the shadows of their husbands and don&#8217;t ever speak out.  Ironacally, the &#8220;strong silent type&#8221; tend to be the weakest type of women as these are the type of women that will put up with a cheating husband &#8211; exactly the oppossite of what that &#8220;strong silent type&#8221; stereotype.</p>
<p>I think both Glenn Rice and Doug Christie were two guys that have been a victim of this &#8211; but Glenn got it worse because his wife was a bit of a hot head and had a tendency to say politically incorrect things (see the Latrell comment above).   I think this hurt Glenn in the end because the sports media portrayed him as a man that was being manipulated  by his &#8220;bitchy&#8221; wife &#8211; in other words, it made him look &#8220;weak&#8221; willed and gave his complaints the appearance of being &#8220;irrational&#8221; &#8211; when in fact they may have been valid all along.</p>
<p>Anyway, at the end it looks like Glenn&#8217;s problems were really because he did not fit Phil&#8217;s system well and, frankly, because Phil did not want to change his system to suit Glenn&#8217;s talents.  There is no question that that was a waste of his talent, but the Lakers made a strategic move to suit the offense around their two superstars (Kobe/Shaq).  In the end, chosing Phil as a coach sealed Glenn&#8217;s fate &#8211; much as chosing DAntoni for NY sealed Marbury&#8217;s and Curry&#8217;s fate.</p>
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		<title>By: wondahbap</title>
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		<dc:creator>wondahbap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh...the LakeShow years.  Our &quot;underdog&quot; status years.  I loved Nicky V.  That boy had ice in his veins.  Remember that last second 3 to finish the Celtics?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh&#8230;the LakeShow years.  Our &#8220;underdog&#8221; status years.  I loved Nicky V.  That boy had ice in his veins.  Remember that last second 3 to finish the Celtics?</p>
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		<title>By: JR</title>
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		<dc:creator>JR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we needed to get rid of Eddie Jordan for Kobes development. There just wasn&#039;t enough room for the both of them in the offence. At the time Shaq was rightly taking the bulk of our shots, and Kobe needed shots to develop. With Eddie there he wasn&#039;t going to get enough shots, simple as that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we needed to get rid of Eddie Jordan for Kobes development. There just wasn&#8217;t enough room for the both of them in the offence. At the time Shaq was rightly taking the bulk of our shots, and Kobe needed shots to develop. With Eddie there he wasn&#8217;t going to get enough shots, simple as that.</p>
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		<title>By: drrayeye</title>
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		<dc:creator>drrayeye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott,

Thank you so much for the saga of Glen Rice.  It&#039;s impossible to forget that beautiful shot.

I personally bought in to that &quot;third option&quot; idea, and wish Phil would have found ways to integrate him into the Lakers system--partly for strategy, and partly for the sheer beauty that he brought to the game.

You&#039;ve done a great job of laying out some of the organizational complexities that lay just below the surface and eventually did Glen in, giving more context to the loss of Jerry West, and ultimately the guy currently referred to as the &quot;Big Cactus.&quot;

It also makes me appreciate the apparent lack of drama both on the team and in the organization this year.  Of course, that won&#039;t last forever.

To realize that, listen in to the roller coaster discussions on Celtics Blogs these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott,</p>
<p>Thank you so much for the saga of Glen Rice.  It&#8217;s impossible to forget that beautiful shot.</p>
<p>I personally bought in to that &#8220;third option&#8221; idea, and wish Phil would have found ways to integrate him into the Lakers system&#8211;partly for strategy, and partly for the sheer beauty that he brought to the game.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve done a great job of laying out some of the organizational complexities that lay just below the surface and eventually did Glen in, giving more context to the loss of Jerry West, and ultimately the guy currently referred to as the &#8220;Big Cactus.&#8221;</p>
<p>It also makes me appreciate the apparent lack of drama both on the team and in the organization this year.  Of course, that won&#8217;t last forever.</p>
<p>To realize that, listen in to the roller coaster discussions on Celtics Blogs these days.</p>
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		<title>By: sT</title>
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		<dc:creator>sT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 07:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gatinho, liked your post very much with all of the links, FB&amp;G does not lose a step when Kurt is gone due to the great bench players he has around here who can come up with posts like yours.  Like someone said earlier, these posts on single players at certian times in Laker history are just wonderful and make this blog great.  Rice, was here so short of a time I never really associate him all that much with the Lakers, but he was a great player indeed.

‘Until you transcend the ego, you do nothing but add to the insanity of the world’ – John Randolph Price

Bring on the Magic...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gatinho, liked your post very much with all of the links, FB&amp;G does not lose a step when Kurt is gone due to the great bench players he has around here who can come up with posts like yours.  Like someone said earlier, these posts on single players at certian times in Laker history are just wonderful and make this blog great.  Rice, was here so short of a time I never really associate him all that much with the Lakers, but he was a great player indeed.</p>
<p>‘Until you transcend the ego, you do nothing but add to the insanity of the world’ – John Randolph Price</p>
<p>Bring on the Magic&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 07:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two shallow reasons why I ilked Glen Rice&quot;

1. Being around 10 years old at that time, I found amusement in hearing the tandem of Curry Rice in Charlotte.

2. Glen Rice was the cover boy for Nba In The Zone 98 for the Playstation.

Being the cover boy, they usually just showed clips of his great shooting. Also he has a pretty high three point  shooting rating that made it cool to use him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two shallow reasons why I ilked Glen Rice&#8221;</p>
<p>1. Being around 10 years old at that time, I found amusement in hearing the tandem of Curry Rice in Charlotte.</p>
<p>2. Glen Rice was the cover boy for Nba In The Zone 98 for the Playstation.</p>
<p>Being the cover boy, they usually just showed clips of his great shooting. Also he has a pretty high three point  shooting rating that made it cool to use him.</p>
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		<title>By: cinz</title>
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		<dc:creator>cinz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 06:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops i meant the bulls!**</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops i meant the bulls!**</p>
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