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		<title>By: robinred</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/02/05/preview-chat-the-evil-empire/comment-page-9/#comment-594344</link>
		<dc:creator>robinred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 16:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have not read the thread yet. 

I stopped by Celtics blog, and they are mostly complaining about the refs and Jeff Clark is lecturing Laker Fans who showed up on manners/banning them. 

The outcome was satisfying, but the physical/play attitude--particularly on the 5th game in 7 days--is a nice, and perhaps more important,  positive.</description>
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<p>I stopped by Celtics blog, and they are mostly complaining about the refs and Jeff Clark is lecturing Laker Fans who showed up on manners/banning them. </p>
<p>The outcome was satisfying, but the physical/play attitude&#8211;particularly on the 5th game in 7 days&#8211;is a nice, and perhaps more important,  positive.</p>
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		<title>By: Yohim</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/02/05/preview-chat-the-evil-empire/comment-page-9/#comment-594302</link>
		<dc:creator>Yohim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 13:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a game... Pau wasn&#039;t that brilliant in the regular time, but he was outstanding in the OT with that 2 crucial blocks (same he did on Christmas blocking Allen at the end)... just awesome!! and that 10-14 in FG was good too... i think Pau needs to shot more in the games... Kobe did 10-29... i think it&#039;s very significative... anyways... we won... thats the main thing!

Lakers 2009 Champions!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a game&#8230; Pau wasn&#8217;t that brilliant in the regular time, but he was outstanding in the OT with that 2 crucial blocks (same he did on Christmas blocking Allen at the end)&#8230; just awesome!! and that 10-14 in FG was good too&#8230; i think Pau needs to shot more in the games&#8230; Kobe did 10-29&#8230; i think it&#8217;s very significative&#8230; anyways&#8230; we won&#8230; thats the main thing!</p>
<p>Lakers 2009 Champions!!!</p>
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		<title>By: MdT</title>
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		<dc:creator>MdT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 10:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, that was something special again. wasnt mentioned so far, but we have the upper hand on the c´s now because we hold the tiebreaker in our hands (if the records are the same at the end of the regular season). we are tough and we can bang, no question about that anymore. light up odom and pau and bring in powell and then we cant be intimidated by those boston fatty-faces aka porkins, powe and davis.

i hope kobe takes a crap in lamars closet and pins a note saying: &quot;best regards, the crab king!&quot;, on it. just to make sure he will show the same attitude against the cavs. LO will be a hughe factor against them, he is the one who will have to bother james with his length and strength.

i am so pleased with this win and i am so proud. not to mention i am so glad i dont have to read about the lakers lacking toughness, heart and what not, ...

jiiiie-haaa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, that was something special again. wasnt mentioned so far, but we have the upper hand on the c´s now because we hold the tiebreaker in our hands (if the records are the same at the end of the regular season). we are tough and we can bang, no question about that anymore. light up odom and pau and bring in powell and then we cant be intimidated by those boston fatty-faces aka porkins, powe and davis.</p>
<p>i hope kobe takes a crap in lamars closet and pins a note saying: &#8220;best regards, the crab king!&#8221;, on it. just to make sure he will show the same attitude against the cavs. LO will be a hughe factor against them, he is the one who will have to bother james with his length and strength.</p>
<p>i am so pleased with this win and i am so proud. not to mention i am so glad i dont have to read about the lakers lacking toughness, heart and what not, &#8230;</p>
<p>jiiiie-haaa.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 09:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New post up.</description>
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		<title>By: bruinsfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>bruinsfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 07:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The talking heads will continue to pull the toughness card because that is their story line for our season.

As much as I hate on Walton, he played some good D on Pierce down the stretch.

LO is hands down the reason we won this game. It was really cool to see him get fired up and then go into attack mode. If we can find a way to get tonight&#039;s LO consistently, watch out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The talking heads will continue to pull the toughness card because that is their story line for our season.</p>
<p>As much as I hate on Walton, he played some good D on Pierce down the stretch.</p>
<p>LO is hands down the reason we won this game. It was really cool to see him get fired up and then go into attack mode. If we can find a way to get tonight&#8217;s LO consistently, watch out.</p>
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		<title>By: Darius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 07:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So much has been said, I don&#039;t have much to add.  (after re-reading my comment, this is a lie.)

On a lot of levels I agree with Reed...players get up for games and when they win those games it matters.  Whether or not those games affect the standings takes a back seat to how the players feel about themselves after.  That&#039;s why there are such things as moral victories and wins that really feel like losses...it&#039;s all in how your mind deals with the outcome.

As for this game, I&#039;m with Kwame:  Odom came up huge.  At halftime, I really wanted Odom to go into attack mode and he answered my prayers with his second half effort.  He was active on both ends and his exchange with KG just took him to another level mentally.  After that, you saw his focus narrow and he was doing (almost) everything right.  Good on him.  That&#039;s my guy.

I also agree with Kurt.  This was a win that only comes from the mentally tough, veteran team.  I think back to the SA game that we lost on Fisher&#039;s foul earlier this season and think this is the same exact type of game only there was no foul and/or made bucket at the end.  Against the Spurs, we were down nine points in the 4th quarter and we battled back to take the lead.  Against the Celtics, we fought the entire 4th quarter and battled on every possession.  Sure, it took some Kobe heroics (that 3pointer that gave us the lead is an impossible shot..really, Pierce was right on his shooting hand).  And sure we missed some FT&#039;s and gave the ball away when we should have been more careful.  But SO WHAT.  We battled, came back, took the lead, and then in overtime made the plays.  Soft teams don&#039;t do that.  Mentally weak teams don&#039;t do that.  If any national media member, any LA Times guy, any person on these boards plays the toughness card after a game like this, I really don&#039;t know what team you&#039;re referencing.  Even if we would have lost this game, I would have been proud of the way we fought.  I will sleep easy.  Even though my fiance thinks I&#039;m crazy for yelling at the TV for 3 hours tonight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So much has been said, I don&#8217;t have much to add.  (after re-reading my comment, this is a lie.)</p>
<p>On a lot of levels I agree with Reed&#8230;players get up for games and when they win those games it matters.  Whether or not those games affect the standings takes a back seat to how the players feel about themselves after.  That&#8217;s why there are such things as moral victories and wins that really feel like losses&#8230;it&#8217;s all in how your mind deals with the outcome.</p>
<p>As for this game, I&#8217;m with Kwame:  Odom came up huge.  At halftime, I really wanted Odom to go into attack mode and he answered my prayers with his second half effort.  He was active on both ends and his exchange with KG just took him to another level mentally.  After that, you saw his focus narrow and he was doing (almost) everything right.  Good on him.  That&#8217;s my guy.</p>
<p>I also agree with Kurt.  This was a win that only comes from the mentally tough, veteran team.  I think back to the SA game that we lost on Fisher&#8217;s foul earlier this season and think this is the same exact type of game only there was no foul and/or made bucket at the end.  Against the Spurs, we were down nine points in the 4th quarter and we battled back to take the lead.  Against the Celtics, we fought the entire 4th quarter and battled on every possession.  Sure, it took some Kobe heroics (that 3pointer that gave us the lead is an impossible shot..really, Pierce was right on his shooting hand).  And sure we missed some FT&#8217;s and gave the ball away when we should have been more careful.  But SO WHAT.  We battled, came back, took the lead, and then in overtime made the plays.  Soft teams don&#8217;t do that.  Mentally weak teams don&#8217;t do that.  If any national media member, any LA Times guy, any person on these boards plays the toughness card after a game like this, I really don&#8217;t know what team you&#8217;re referencing.  Even if we would have lost this game, I would have been proud of the way we fought.  I will sleep easy.  Even though my fiance thinks I&#8217;m crazy for yelling at the TV for 3 hours tonight.</p>
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		<title>By: drrayeye</title>
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		<dc:creator>drrayeye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 07:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a great deal to say, but this is not the time.  For so many reasons this is an especially great win for the Lakers.  Let&#039;s enjoy it and think about it for awhile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a great deal to say, but this is not the time.  For so many reasons this is an especially great win for the Lakers.  Let&#8217;s enjoy it and think about it for awhile.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 07:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Ariza didn&#039;t play late simply because he was clearly off and Walton was doing the job. You go with the hot hand in big games (or the playoffs) and it was not Ariza. Just one of those nights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Ariza didn&#8217;t play late simply because he was clearly off and Walton was doing the job. You go with the hot hand in big games (or the playoffs) and it was not Ariza. Just one of those nights.</p>
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		<title>By: JR</title>
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		<dc:creator>JR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 07:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Psychology, I also think it crushed the Sun&#039;s the year before the last after the Spurs&#039; loss. It was all about perception as well, the Sun&#039;s were percieved to be the more talented team or at least as talented and it became all about the &#039;system&#039; that was being run, a kind of idealogical battle. In retrospect though does anyone else think that in reality the Spurs&#039; just had better players?

 I definitely think now that Manu, Timmy and Tony are the better three out of Shawn, Steve and Amare. I find it very sad that currently people have been dumping on Nash because of his two MVPs without remembering that that guy was the business. He made that team and whilst whether or not he should of won is debatable, its not debatable that he was at the very least a top candidate. He was amazing. Now Nash is slowing down I think we&#039;re seeing how good he made that team look, so good that we thought they were far better than they were...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Psychology, I also think it crushed the Sun&#8217;s the year before the last after the Spurs&#8217; loss. It was all about perception as well, the Sun&#8217;s were percieved to be the more talented team or at least as talented and it became all about the &#8217;system&#8217; that was being run, a kind of idealogical battle. In retrospect though does anyone else think that in reality the Spurs&#8217; just had better players?</p>
<p> I definitely think now that Manu, Timmy and Tony are the better three out of Shawn, Steve and Amare. I find it very sad that currently people have been dumping on Nash because of his two MVPs without remembering that that guy was the business. He made that team and whilst whether or not he should of won is debatable, its not debatable that he was at the very least a top candidate. He was amazing. Now Nash is slowing down I think we&#8217;re seeing how good he made that team look, so good that we thought they were far better than they were&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: magic</title>
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		<dc:creator>magic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 06:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reed - spot on. Totally agree.

Multiple things factor into every game. Skill, talent, physical fitness/athleticism and psychology.

This game will go a long way to helping us in the Finals if we face the Lepers. The sweep also gives us home court advantage in a tie.

Great win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reed &#8211; spot on. Totally agree.</p>
<p>Multiple things factor into every game. Skill, talent, physical fitness/athleticism and psychology.</p>
<p>This game will go a long way to helping us in the Finals if we face the Lepers. The sweep also gives us home court advantage in a tie.</p>
<p>Great win.</p>
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