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	<title>Comments on: Psychology and the Celtics, Round Two</title>
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		<title>By: Revgen</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/02/06/pyschology-and-the-celtics-round-two/comment-page-2/#comment-594771</link>
		<dc:creator>Revgen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 09:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Laker team&#039;s identity is pretty simple to me. They are a collection of different individuals who work together to get a job done. Bynum is a quiet guy. So is Powell. Odom is a goofy kinda guy with a big heart but deep wounds. Luke is laid-back california guy. Farmar is a cocky yet fun SoCal kid.  Ariza is an intense personality who&#039;s game is fueled by the loss of his brother, who he wears a tattoo on his arm.

The Lakers are deep collection of individuals who are different, yet they seem to get along together off the court and enjoy each other&#039;s company. Each loss results in pain felt and shared by all, as does every win. It kinda reminds me of a church, where everybody that goes to the church are different people, but they are all seemingly united by Jesus. Winning basketball games and championships seems to be the way that these vastly different individuals seem to get along. Considering that Jackson&#039;s parents were pentalcoastal preachers, it&#039;s not surprising to me that a team was built under his direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Laker team&#8217;s identity is pretty simple to me. They are a collection of different individuals who work together to get a job done. Bynum is a quiet guy. So is Powell. Odom is a goofy kinda guy with a big heart but deep wounds. Luke is laid-back california guy. Farmar is a cocky yet fun SoCal kid.  Ariza is an intense personality who&#8217;s game is fueled by the loss of his brother, who he wears a tattoo on his arm.</p>
<p>The Lakers are deep collection of individuals who are different, yet they seem to get along together off the court and enjoy each other&#8217;s company. Each loss results in pain felt and shared by all, as does every win. It kinda reminds me of a church, where everybody that goes to the church are different people, but they are all seemingly united by Jesus. Winning basketball games and championships seems to be the way that these vastly different individuals seem to get along. Considering that Jackson&#8217;s parents were pentalcoastal preachers, it&#8217;s not surprising to me that a team was built under his direction.</p>
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		<title>By: KenW</title>
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		<dc:creator>KenW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 00:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don&#039;t really need to add anyone. This is just another plus toward a team that&#039;s proven itself against a weak Cavs and Celts team.</description>
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		<title>By: Bill Bridges</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bridges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 21:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the 1984 finals, his team was bullied, his power forward literally clotheslined. The Lakers were Intimidated and then finally beaten by the Boston Celtics, a team the Lakers had never beaten since their move out west. 

Fast forward a year. Pat Riley heard a year of talk about how his team was soft, good enough for show time but not tough enough to win. It was then. prior to the rematch that he told his team what his father had &lt;a href=&quot;http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1208/is_n2_v219/ai_16005645/pg_4&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;told him&lt;/a&gt;. &quot;Just remember what I always taught you. Somewhere, someplace, sometime, you&#039;re going to have to plant your feet, make a stand and kick some ass. And when that time comes, you do it.&quot;


It was the spirit of Lee Riley that Lamar Odom channelled on February 5th 2008.  &quot;Sometimes you&#039;ve just got to make a stand. Tonight, we made a stand.&quot; 


If history repeats itself it must do so on 24 year cycles. The finess team from Los Angeles goes into Boston and kicked sand into the bully&#039;s face. As it was in 1985, so it shall be in 2009. 


&quot;Cathartic? I don&#039;t know what cathartic means. I didn&#039;t go to college&quot; Kobe Bryant may not know what cathartic means but Lamar Odom embodied it. 

We might have witnessed the tranformation of LO. For so long he has tantalised us with a unique combination of size, speed, and skills. Always disappointing instead with inconsistency and lack of focus and fortitude. Can a moment be so cathartic for an individual? Can transformation happen in an instant?


Stephen Jay Gould amended Darwin by showing that evolution happens in an instant (geologically speaking). Puncutated Equilibrium rather than a gradual crawl. Evolution is Revolution.


What are the traits keeping LO back from greatness. Not skills. Not size. Not athleticism. But focus, determination, concentration, will. Maybe he finally got it. Finally realised he has to let go to move forward. Phil started the process by having LO come off the bench for the first time in his life. Humility shatters the illusions of the ego that prevent growth. By letting go, maybe LO now can play in the moment. Present, focused, determined.

&quot;Basketball is a humiliating sport, it can humble you right in the middle of the game,&quot; Odom said. &quot;But tonight I just left all that behind.&quot; 

Character is shaped not by success but reaction to failure. Evolution only occurs change in environmental stress favours a new variant of the species. Without stress no growth. Andrew Bynum&#039;s injury, especially due to the deja vu nature, created cruel and violent stress. But also an opportunity for growth and evolution. How this team, on this trip, reprising the character of 1985 has responded to this stress been gratifying to us all. How LO, in this game matched the passion of KG, looked the bullies in the eye and, in the end, won the game, might be the true blessing arising from the misfortune in Memphis.

We sensed the change even during the game. Any other game, you would despair at seeing LO at the line with one free throw to tie and two the win. But for the first time since he became a Laker, somehow I knew he would sink both. And he did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the 1984 finals, his team was bullied, his power forward literally clotheslined. The Lakers were Intimidated and then finally beaten by the Boston Celtics, a team the Lakers had never beaten since their move out west. </p>
<p>Fast forward a year. Pat Riley heard a year of talk about how his team was soft, good enough for show time but not tough enough to win. It was then. prior to the rematch that he told his team what his father had <a href="http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1208/is_n2_v219/ai_16005645/pg_4" rel="nofollow">told him</a>. &#8220;Just remember what I always taught you. Somewhere, someplace, sometime, you&#8217;re going to have to plant your feet, make a stand and kick some ass. And when that time comes, you do it.&#8221;</p>
<p>It was the spirit of Lee Riley that Lamar Odom channelled on February 5th 2008.  &#8220;Sometimes you&#8217;ve just got to make a stand. Tonight, we made a stand.&#8221; </p>
<p>If history repeats itself it must do so on 24 year cycles. The finess team from Los Angeles goes into Boston and kicked sand into the bully&#8217;s face. As it was in 1985, so it shall be in 2009. </p>
<p>&#8220;Cathartic? I don&#8217;t know what cathartic means. I didn&#8217;t go to college&#8221; Kobe Bryant may not know what cathartic means but Lamar Odom embodied it. </p>
<p>We might have witnessed the tranformation of LO. For so long he has tantalised us with a unique combination of size, speed, and skills. Always disappointing instead with inconsistency and lack of focus and fortitude. Can a moment be so cathartic for an individual? Can transformation happen in an instant?</p>
<p>Stephen Jay Gould amended Darwin by showing that evolution happens in an instant (geologically speaking). Puncutated Equilibrium rather than a gradual crawl. Evolution is Revolution.</p>
<p>What are the traits keeping LO back from greatness. Not skills. Not size. Not athleticism. But focus, determination, concentration, will. Maybe he finally got it. Finally realised he has to let go to move forward. Phil started the process by having LO come off the bench for the first time in his life. Humility shatters the illusions of the ego that prevent growth. By letting go, maybe LO now can play in the moment. Present, focused, determined.</p>
<p>&#8220;Basketball is a humiliating sport, it can humble you right in the middle of the game,&#8221; Odom said. &#8220;But tonight I just left all that behind.&#8221; </p>
<p>Character is shaped not by success but reaction to failure. Evolution only occurs change in environmental stress favours a new variant of the species. Without stress no growth. Andrew Bynum&#8217;s injury, especially due to the deja vu nature, created cruel and violent stress. But also an opportunity for growth and evolution. How this team, on this trip, reprising the character of 1985 has responded to this stress been gratifying to us all. How LO, in this game matched the passion of KG, looked the bullies in the eye and, in the end, won the game, might be the true blessing arising from the misfortune in Memphis.</p>
<p>We sensed the change even during the game. Any other game, you would despair at seeing LO at the line with one free throw to tie and two the win. But for the first time since he became a Laker, somehow I knew he would sink both. And he did.</p>
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		<title>By: gaston</title>
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		<dc:creator>gaston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 21:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the salary dump idea but here is a little more of my 2 cents on why it may not just be a salary dump.

First cent = Morrison as a project.  Morrison may be less talented compared to Vlad now, but Morrison&#039;s ceiling is a little higher since you haven&#039;t seen everything from him yet -- a very intriguing project.  After 7+ years we all should know what Vlad brings -- treys, no defense, no rebounding.  Morrison may be a better shooting version of Luke (I make that comparison more because of their athletic talents...or lake thereof.)

Second cent = trade asset in the off-season.  In the current economic situation that the NBA is in and you&#039;ll notice that Morrison&#039;s contract, depending on which site you reference it&#039;s either a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rotoworld.com/content/clubhouse_contracts.aspx?sport=NBA&amp;majteam=LAK&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;team option or for 2009/2010&lt;/a&gt; (which is as good as an expiring contract) or &lt;a href=&quot;http://hoopshype.com/salaries/charlotte.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;2010/2011&lt;/a&gt;, is a more attractive asset to have this offseason -- possibly in acquiring a third point to complement Fish and supplant Jordan as our spark plug off the bench while Jordan gets promoted to the starting lineup -- would be the natural progression, no?  Or we could just get both Brown&#039;s and Morrison&#039;s contract off our books and resign both Trevor and Lamar to deserving contract extensions.

Anyways, great trade for the Lakers...GINORMOUS props to Mitch for another masterful move!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the salary dump idea but here is a little more of my 2 cents on why it may not just be a salary dump.</p>
<p>First cent = Morrison as a project.  Morrison may be less talented compared to Vlad now, but Morrison&#8217;s ceiling is a little higher since you haven&#8217;t seen everything from him yet &#8212; a very intriguing project.  After 7+ years we all should know what Vlad brings &#8212; treys, no defense, no rebounding.  Morrison may be a better shooting version of Luke (I make that comparison more because of their athletic talents&#8230;or lake thereof.)</p>
<p>Second cent = trade asset in the off-season.  In the current economic situation that the NBA is in and you&#8217;ll notice that Morrison&#8217;s contract, depending on which site you reference it&#8217;s either a <a href="http://www.rotoworld.com/content/clubhouse_contracts.aspx?sport=NBA&amp;majteam=LAK" rel="nofollow">team option or for 2009/2010</a> (which is as good as an expiring contract) or <a href="http://hoopshype.com/salaries/charlotte.htm" rel="nofollow">2010/2011</a>, is a more attractive asset to have this offseason &#8212; possibly in acquiring a third point to complement Fish and supplant Jordan as our spark plug off the bench while Jordan gets promoted to the starting lineup &#8212; would be the natural progression, no?  Or we could just get both Brown&#8217;s and Morrison&#8217;s contract off our books and resign both Trevor and Lamar to deserving contract extensions.</p>
<p>Anyways, great trade for the Lakers&#8230;GINORMOUS props to Mitch for another masterful move!</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 21:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New Radman trade post up. 

I&#039;ll be updating this as the day goes on.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;ll be updating this as the day goes on.</p>
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		<title>By: specialM</title>
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		<dc:creator>specialM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 21:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>will - the salary dump is a major part. but also, realize that phil was not going to play vlad in any critical game. i think powell&#039;s performance in the last few weeks sealed the deal -- we can compete just fine without vlad&#039;s long range game. we might as well pick up someone who MIGHT learn to play regularly in the defensive system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>will &#8211; the salary dump is a major part. but also, realize that phil was not going to play vlad in any critical game. i think powell&#8217;s performance in the last few weeks sealed the deal &#8212; we can compete just fine without vlad&#8217;s long range game. we might as well pick up someone who MIGHT learn to play regularly in the defensive system.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 21:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember, every $ saves is 2$, because the Lakers are over the luxury tax level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember, every $ saves is 2$, because the Lakers are over the luxury tax level.</p>
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		<title>By: DB</title>
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		<dc:creator>DB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 21:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another great trade by Mitch. 

I think that first and foremost this was a move made to clear up salary space to re-sign Ariza and possibly Odom after this season. But, that said, since we&#039;re talking about psychological factors of late, I like the fact that both Morrison and Brown came from well-coached winning programs in college. Vlade has all the talent in the world, but in the end you just never know what you&#039;ll get from him game to game. That&#039;s been the story of his career, and it isn&#039;t going to change. He&#039;s especially not suited to come off the bench. 

Has anyone watched Brown enough to know whether he&#039;s capable of defending quick point guards?  I suspect he and Morrison will ride the pine the rest of the season unless we have injuries, but you never know. I&#039;m curious about Morrison in the triangle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great trade by Mitch. </p>
<p>I think that first and foremost this was a move made to clear up salary space to re-sign Ariza and possibly Odom after this season. But, that said, since we&#8217;re talking about psychological factors of late, I like the fact that both Morrison and Brown came from well-coached winning programs in college. Vlade has all the talent in the world, but in the end you just never know what you&#8217;ll get from him game to game. That&#8217;s been the story of his career, and it isn&#8217;t going to change. He&#8217;s especially not suited to come off the bench. </p>
<p>Has anyone watched Brown enough to know whether he&#8217;s capable of defending quick point guards?  I suspect he and Morrison will ride the pine the rest of the season unless we have injuries, but you never know. I&#8217;m curious about Morrison in the triangle.</p>
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		<title>By: jwl</title>
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		<dc:creator>jwl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 21:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree on it being a salary dump.  The Lakers would save about $2 million with shannon brown&#039;s expiring contract and morrison&#039;s lesser contract.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree on it being a salary dump.  The Lakers would save about $2 million with shannon brown&#8217;s expiring contract and morrison&#8217;s lesser contract.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 21:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somebody explain the Morrison/Brown-Radman deal. Salary dump? We lose in terms of talent. Morrison shot well in college but has been an abomination in the pros; Radman is an elite shooter and makes Morrison&#039;s defense look artesque (coinage mine). As with Kwame, he&#039;s hard not to like as a person, but as a player, doubts multiply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somebody explain the Morrison/Brown-Radman deal. Salary dump? We lose in terms of talent. Morrison shot well in college but has been an abomination in the pros; Radman is an elite shooter and makes Morrison&#8217;s defense look artesque (coinage mine). As with Kwame, he&#8217;s hard not to like as a person, but as a player, doubts multiply.</p>
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