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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/03/25/talking-lakers-with-espn/comment-page-2/#comment-601718</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 01:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ARIIIZA!!! I got a link to work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ARIIIZA!!! I got a link to work.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/03/25/talking-lakers-with-espn/comment-page-1/#comment-601663</link>
		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deeeetroit Bas-ket-ball post up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deeeetroit Bas-ket-ball post up.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>48

Friedman was using the quote from Cleamons to attack a statement made by Kevin Pelton several months ago. In fact, if you actually read the piece on the Knicks you can see that he first posted that quote in December of last year.

That&#039;s not to say that Cleamons&#039; comments on the Laker defense don&#039;t still hold some validity today, but the fact is that Friedman was not posting about that subject at all. Yet for some reason Abbott digs through the whole piece and decides to quote that part only. Interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>48</p>
<p>Friedman was using the quote from Cleamons to attack a statement made by Kevin Pelton several months ago. In fact, if you actually read the piece on the Knicks you can see that he first posted that quote in December of last year.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to say that Cleamons&#8217; comments on the Laker defense don&#8217;t still hold some validity today, but the fact is that Friedman was not posting about that subject at all. Yet for some reason Abbott digs through the whole piece and decides to quote that part only. Interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Volren</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/03/25/talking-lakers-with-espn/comment-page-1/#comment-601660</link>
		<dc:creator>Volren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally have no issues with the way the Lakers were presented in that article; God knows everyone who&#039;s watched them over the course of the season would agree that the D has hardly been consistent.

I do find it somewhat odd, however, that Henry (or whoever it was that wrote it) took that bit of insight from Jim Cleamons from an article that actually had nothing to do with the Lakers at all (Friedman was writing about the Knicks), then made a piece about the Lakers out of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally have no issues with the way the Lakers were presented in that article; God knows everyone who&#8217;s watched them over the course of the season would agree that the D has hardly been consistent.</p>
<p>I do find it somewhat odd, however, that Henry (or whoever it was that wrote it) took that bit of insight from Jim Cleamons from an article that actually had nothing to do with the Lakers at all (Friedman was writing about the Knicks), then made a piece about the Lakers out of it.</p>
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		<title>By: clutch824</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/03/25/talking-lakers-with-espn/comment-page-1/#comment-601659</link>
		<dc:creator>clutch824</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our D has been praised by experts?  Really?  They must not actually watch games.  It&#039;s funny, I found Forum Blue through truehoop a couple years ago, but have long since stopped reading it, because I grew so tired of Abbott&#039;s foolishness.  Throw him and Hollinger in a boat and sail them away...

So I&#039;m not crazy, Cleamons&#039; quote has certified my assessment of this season&#039;s D.  The only question is how many bad losses or playoff exits will it take before we quit mimicking the Suns and stop making excuses for playing bad defense?  This reg season&#039;s d has actually been worse than last year.  I could&#039;ve sworn the mission for this season was to be better on D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our D has been praised by experts?  Really?  They must not actually watch games.  It&#8217;s funny, I found Forum Blue through truehoop a couple years ago, but have long since stopped reading it, because I grew so tired of Abbott&#8217;s foolishness.  Throw him and Hollinger in a boat and sail them away&#8230;</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m not crazy, Cleamons&#8217; quote has certified my assessment of this season&#8217;s D.  The only question is how many bad losses or playoff exits will it take before we quit mimicking the Suns and stop making excuses for playing bad defense?  This reg season&#8217;s d has actually been worse than last year.  I could&#8217;ve sworn the mission for this season was to be better on D.</p>
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		<title>By: Darius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE the TrueHoop post on our defense:

I mentioned this a while back, but after reading Jim Cleamons&#039; comments it popped back in my head- the Lakers play a defensive scheme that is equivalent to paint by numbers.  The coaches are telling players exactly where they need to be in help situations rather than letting them figure those things out for themselves.  It&#039;s the reason why we double the post against players who may not be strong scoring threats.  It&#039;s why we shift into our SSZ when the ball handler is in a position to be a penetrator.  It&#039;s why we extend into traps on the wing when the player with the ball is in a position to hurt us with the ball.  These are all situations where the coaches think we are vulnerable and want us to be in better positions as helpers.  Ultimately we&#039;re trying to compensate for the fact that our players are not instinctive enough to play the defensive scenario well enough for the result to be something successful.  So, like paint by numbers, the staff has laid out what they (the players) should do on any given possession beforehand so all they do is fill in the part of the picture with the proper color.  Understand though, that while this scheme is meant to limit our weaknesses, it&#039;s also meant to play to our strengths- length and quickness.  We have players that *should* be able to show help on the strong side while still recovering to the weakside to contest shooters.  We have players that can trap on the strong side while still recovering to the paint to rebound when the players are rotating to the opposite side of the court.  I agree with Coach Cleamons though, we need to bring that effort to rotate on defense in the manner that the scheme requires.  Because if we don&#039;t we will be in trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE the TrueHoop post on our defense:</p>
<p>I mentioned this a while back, but after reading Jim Cleamons&#8217; comments it popped back in my head- the Lakers play a defensive scheme that is equivalent to paint by numbers.  The coaches are telling players exactly where they need to be in help situations rather than letting them figure those things out for themselves.  It&#8217;s the reason why we double the post against players who may not be strong scoring threats.  It&#8217;s why we shift into our SSZ when the ball handler is in a position to be a penetrator.  It&#8217;s why we extend into traps on the wing when the player with the ball is in a position to hurt us with the ball.  These are all situations where the coaches think we are vulnerable and want us to be in better positions as helpers.  Ultimately we&#8217;re trying to compensate for the fact that our players are not instinctive enough to play the defensive scenario well enough for the result to be something successful.  So, like paint by numbers, the staff has laid out what they (the players) should do on any given possession beforehand so all they do is fill in the part of the picture with the proper color.  Understand though, that while this scheme is meant to limit our weaknesses, it&#8217;s also meant to play to our strengths- length and quickness.  We have players that *should* be able to show help on the strong side while still recovering to the weakside to contest shooters.  We have players that can trap on the strong side while still recovering to the paint to rebound when the players are rotating to the opposite side of the court.  I agree with Coach Cleamons though, we need to bring that effort to rotate on defense in the manner that the scheme requires.  Because if we don&#8217;t we will be in trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Lake Show are sitting pretty. My only concern is sustainability. Where will we be in two years? I don&#039;t trust Bynum&#039;s health. In the current economic state drafting well is as important as ever.

You can bet that there will be a lot of eyeballs on this year’s Nike Hoop Summit. Top US high school seniors vs the Top high school seniors from the rest of the world. Guys like Dirk, Tony Parker and Derek Rose played in it before they got drafted.

Yahoo Sports is doing a live webcast of the game on April 11th. Hopefully I will be watching the next great Laker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Lake Show are sitting pretty. My only concern is sustainability. Where will we be in two years? I don&#8217;t trust Bynum&#8217;s health. In the current economic state drafting well is as important as ever.</p>
<p>You can bet that there will be a lot of eyeballs on this year’s Nike Hoop Summit. Top US high school seniors vs the Top high school seniors from the rest of the world. Guys like Dirk, Tony Parker and Derek Rose played in it before they got drafted.</p>
<p>Yahoo Sports is doing a live webcast of the game on April 11th. Hopefully I will be watching the next great Laker.</p>
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		<title>By: Travis Y.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Travis Y.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here&#039;s the link.

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-38-364/How-the-Lakers-Play-Defense.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here&#8217;s the link.</p>
<p><a href="http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-38-364/How-the-Lakers-Play-Defense.html" rel="nofollow">http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-38-364/How-the-Lakers-Play-Defense.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Travis Y.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Travis Y.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting piece in truehoop talking about our defense. 

Coach Cleamons talks about the lack of defensive intensity night in and night out and how that is characteristic in champion teams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting piece in truehoop talking about our defense. </p>
<p>Coach Cleamons talks about the lack of defensive intensity night in and night out and how that is characteristic in champion teams.</p>
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		<title>By: E-ROC</title>
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		<dc:creator>E-ROC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MannyP13 -  Michael Jordan isn&#039;t that bad. Kwame Brown and Adam Morrison didn&#039;t meet expectations that come with being drafted at their respective positions. That ain&#039;t the be-all and end-all. He has traded for Raja Bell, Boris Diaw, Jason Richardson signed Cartier Martin and Dontell Jefferson from the D-League, drafted Jared Dudley, DJ Augustin, Jermareo Davidson, Alexis Ajinca,  and Kyle Weaver. I think he&#039;s fairing pretty well with the Bobcats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MannyP13 &#8211;  Michael Jordan isn&#8217;t that bad. Kwame Brown and Adam Morrison didn&#8217;t meet expectations that come with being drafted at their respective positions. That ain&#8217;t the be-all and end-all. He has traded for Raja Bell, Boris Diaw, Jason Richardson signed Cartier Martin and Dontell Jefferson from the D-League, drafted Jared Dudley, DJ Augustin, Jermareo Davidson, Alexis Ajinca,  and Kyle Weaver. I think he&#8217;s fairing pretty well with the Bobcats.</p>
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