Lakers/Jazz Game 5 Chat

Kurt —  April 27, 2009

Jazz vs. Lakers
The toughest win to get is the last one. Doesn’t matter where the game is played, what happened before, teams pick it up a notch when their season is on the line.

No Luke Walton tonight (and maybe through the first couple games of the next round), which means more minutes and a bigger game is needed from Ariza.

Kobe was on fire early last game pulling up for the midrange jumper — the Jazz never really adjusted to that. They were willing to let him beat them that way so he did. I expect some kind of adjustment to that this game, Utah can’t risk the same outcome, but whether it is the early double team or ball denial defense, that should open things up for the ball to get inside. The Jazz still don’t have an answer for everything Gasol can do. And they don’t seem to care when Odom drives to the left, although they should.

On defense the Lakers probably had their best half in the second half of game four. They were much better and smarter at doubling Boozer before he started his move, and they did a much better job being aware of the cutters when help came on D-Will, Those things need to continue.

But by this point in the series, there are not a lot of secrets. Everyone knows what is supposed to happen, it’s a matter of exaction.

I know a lot of people want to see more Andrew Bynum tonight, to see him get in a rhythm before he gets a boost in responsibility next series (either Houston or Portland). The problem is, the Jazz have tried to counter the Lakers size advantage by going small at times. Putting Bynum out there in that situation — with his knee not 100% — could lead to bad outings and confidence issues. He needs to be in when he is in a place where he can succeed. Also, closing it out tonight means more rest for him (not likely the next round starts before the weekend).

For us fans, it’s hard not to look forward a little to the next series — and if you want to win tickets to game one of the next round check out the Lakers Nation Twitter contest. But we are going to hold off on that in the formal posts.

Hopefully for just one day.


303 responses to Lakers/Jazz Game 5 Chat

  1. Reggie is obsessed with talking about Kobe as if he has multiple-personality disorder.

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  2. Reggie is obsessed with a lot of things…

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  3. WTF is this ‘Triple Ocho’ garbage? Kobe doesn’t even need a nickname, his name is unique enough.

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  4. Rondo still went pretty late.

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  5. oops. my mistake. brown was drafted before farmar.

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  6. why has sloan buried price on the bench? I refuse to believe he brings less to the table than Brevin Knight.

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  7. Reggie Miller is an embarrassment to sports broadcasting.

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  8. Is anyone hearing Marv? He sounds like he’s slowly falling asleep! That bodes well for our Lakers, they haven’t let this game get too interesting.

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  9. We’re getting a little too close for comfort. We need to clamp down a bit.

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  10. Lakers are getting a little sloppy and kinda letting the Jazz back into this.

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  11. No kidding. This is ugly.

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  12. wow. we’re losing the lead again…

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  13. substitution please..

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  14. Let’s not blow another lead up. Please.

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  15. Sheesh. Can’t the Lakers not let it get close just one game. Is that too much to ask?

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  16. The Jazz are back into this now, unbelievable.

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  17. This is the kind of play that scares me – if they really are angry about game 6 in Boston last year, like they always say, they would be more ruthless closing out games.

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  18. Lakers don’t like to humiliate teams like Denver does. We just make sure we beat them, but not too bad, not in any way that makes them look bad.

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  19. here we go again

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  20. No team is going to lay down for us if we keep building this rep of blowing leads.

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  21. Wow…and the Jazz starters aren’t even in there. This is bad.

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  22. do championship caliber teams do this?

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  23. I am going to have a heart attack.

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  24. cannot believe this is happening

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  25. Haha this is funny. Lakers messing with us.

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  26. Joit…no they don’t. If they lose this game I will be pissed!

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  27. Were playing the Jazz bench and not making any ground. As I type here comes their starters now.

    Anybody’s game…

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  28. Get ready for another round of ‘Are they tough enough?’ articles tomorrow…

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  29. Our bench just doesn’t play hard. It’s really discouraging. Bynum and Josh Powell came in and gave us nothing, so we had to bring in Gasol and Odom back off the bench while they were frigid cold.

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  30. wow, can they just give us the satisfaction of at least a guaranteed W here. i mean, isn’t it too hard to see what kyle korver is there for enough to leave him open? sheesh.

    i agree, teams are gonna keep creeping back if we play this way. anyhow, maybe we’ll all forget this after 4 days of rest. that is.. if we get this game. GO LAKERS! staples crowd, go help out!

    kobe, we need you…again.

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  31. its a mental thing now… i believe most of the lakers with the exception of kobe and fisher have this fear of losing leads and it shows.

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  32. Bynum doesn’t seem to care or try very hard when he was out there. If he wants pt he needs to play for it, not just expect it.

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  33. Maybe if they can get some rebounds we can get into this thing.

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  34. I don’t know if this is indicative of our championship chances necessarily. The Celtics struggled through two rounds last year and our Lakers did through three rounds in 2000.

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  35. Didn’t think there was a foul there on Price. What do you guys think?

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  36. I didn’t see a foul either.

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  37. stop, it’s LO time!

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  38. really rebounding like girls

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  39. @emh: well… considering its a trademark of this laker team the WHOLE season… i would say it has some bearing on their championship qualities. i hope i’m wrong.

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  40. Man, I’m afraid for Jerry Sloan’s health. He’s screaming and jumping on the sidelines. Not good for a man his age.

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  41. that looseball sequence made me laugh…at our inability to get boards and the jazz’ inability to get the ball.

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  42. The Jazz are playing like a desperate team, the Lakers are playing like a team trying not to lose.

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  43. My entire family (my mom, uncle, aunt, and myself) literally laughed for the past 2 minutes. This has been too hilarious. Can’t even be scripted?

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  44. Sloan had a legit gripe. Price got annihilated.

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  45. Oh boy. Make your free throws.

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  46. Yuck. Bad way to close the game.

    Well, at least the crowd gets tacos.

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  47. Should be an interesting post game press conference with Sloan.

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  48. the lakers look tired… they desperately want this game to be over.

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  49. Who says the West does not have great playoff games.

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  50. Um, so… if you can’t make your free throws now, then when will you?

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  51. I agree with Kurt, the Jazz are really giving it everything they have. The Lakers are just trying to get out of here without anyone getting hurt. You can tell because everyone is tentative when going after loose balls and rebounds. Frankly, it’s disgusting to see Bynum and Powell get outrebounded by Millsap and half of Okur.

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  52. I can hear Charles already, “the Lakers lack that killer instinct of championship teams…blah blah”.

    Ugh, Lakers turned an enjoyable game into another typical mental lapse.

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  53. Looking at the Jazz, you start to realize just how tough a GM’s job is. Connor has done a phenomenal job. It’s just so hard to find star complementary pieces.

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  54. Look – they were bound to have a run in them at some point, it just happened to coincide with our bench being in. We just got a bit lazy on both sides of the ball and turned it over, didn’t box out, and let Millsap and Price get some confidence. By the time our starters got in, they were a bit rusty and needed some time to feel the game back out again.

    The NBA is a league of runs. what did we expect, Utah to just let us lose by 20?

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  55. Gotta love Sloan standing up the refs for his team.

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  56. after seeing that graphic about the lakers potential 2nd round opponent… we should all be rooting for the rockets on their next game.

    i remember a few months ago saying that if the lakers played portland in the playoffs it would go 7 and someone was laughing at me… uh… i think their regular season performance in portland proves my point.

    please lakers… make your damn freethrows! even fisher is missing… wtf?

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  57. Oh man… we want tacos!

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  58. Oh man, Odom with the ultimate F-You dunk

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  59. Lamar Odom is the one NBA player I want to chill with more than any other.

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  60. It must be the tacos. Utah trying to deny the fans tacos over the “Utah sucks” chants.

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  61. on a lighter note, did anyone catch what Sloan said to Javie to get tossed? It looked to me like “you’re a f***ing failure!”

    wow, Price talking some crap huh? check out the scoreboard…

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  62. The Trailblazers are a very good team, but I don’t fear them anymore than any other team still left in the Western Conference.

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  63. Snoop, I will say that in my limited time getting to hang out in the Lakers locker room, your instincts are correct. When the cameras are on, Odom is a cliche machine, but when the tape recorders are off and he’s not on the record, he is very funny, very fun guy to hang with.

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  64. I wonder if Phil will seek out Sloan in the back to say goodbye, since he was ejected.

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  65. its all about matchups… how the blazers do against other teams is irrelevant to when it comes to the lakers against the blazers. maybe you shouldn’t fear them and you’re correct on that part, but the lakers need to respect the blazers and what they’ve done to them this season.

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  66. Peanut Butter Spread April 27, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    wow. the bench totally sucked the joy out of that “blowout” win.

    I can forgive them missing so many shots, but come on! Box out! Rebound! Energy! A 22 point lead does not mean snooze time, Drew.

    I can not forgive though, lazy rebounding, no energy.

    The starters played superbly but the garbage time bench really sucked.

    I give credit to the Utah Bench for being so spirited.

    Still, I blame Phil for the 2-16 run. I don’t care if you’re up by 22.

    DON’T REST THE STARTERS!!! YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN GAME SIX LAST SERIES. PLAY THE STARTERS. KILL ANY HOPES. NONE OF THIS GARBAGE TIME THING.

    THERE IS NO GARBAGE TIME IN THE PLAYOFFS!

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  67. Kobe’s interview: calling out the second unit. Love it.

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  68. joits,

    At this point the possibility we’re facing Portland is very slim. Houston is a much better matchup for us, and we’ve talked extensively about their problems against us, namely generating offense. Kobe has also taken the “Moneyball” article from the New York Times to heart and wants to torch Artest and Battier.

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  69. What was the croud chanting? Some kinda of “music”…
    What was that?

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  70. I was impressed with the way Price fought to the end.

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  71. It was great to see the players giving respect to Hot Rod.

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  72. It’s just cause you know Lamar has that chronic, son! Ha kidding.

    What the he’ll does price think he’s doing? Hello you’ve been riding the bench all series and your team is being eliminated. Shut up and miss your free throws already.

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  73. Felipe, an old song from the 70’s.

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  74. I am not disrespecting the Blazers. I just think some Lakers fans have an unnatural fear of them. We struggle at the Rose Garden during the regular season but that is not true during the playoffs. We have played very competitively up there for the last decade during the postseason. Besides, the Blazers blew us out once up there this season and then won a close game against us towards the end of the season. We blew them out twice at Staples. It’s hardly as competitive as people think.

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  75. houston will make an interesting matchup. oh but how interesting would it get should mcgrady remained healthy and determined to win something.

    kobe on tmac
    lo on artest (and artest and the whole wing on kobe)

    bynum on yao
    bench on bench

    though we got pau and i don’t think scola cancels them out

    speed of the young brooks vs. the veteran fizz of fisher

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  76. Can you elaborate a little more?
    I don’t think I know that chant

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  77. I think that the second unit lacking a leader is really hurting them, because too often they don’t go 100% and start looking for themselves offensively.

    Also, I think Phil should activate Mbenga and use him in some of Bynum’s minutes. Not that DJ is going to give us much of anything, but Drew needs to realize that if he’s not going to play hard he’s not going to be playing at all.

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  78. Next series, I think we need Bynum to start and Lamar go to back to being the 6th man. Especially with Luke out, Lamar needs to be the veteran, steadying presence who can facilitate the offense and take on more of the scoring burden if necessary. Bynum is nowhere close to that point yet, which could be why our bench got owned by theirs this game.

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  79. I totally agree with Bruinsfan. What is up with Bynum and his mentally?

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  80. Bynum is playing like he did back in December–lazy and listless. Something needs to snap in his head so he plays like he was playing in January. Of course, he’s still recovering from his injury, but I don’t think his energy and hustle is where it should be.

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  81. Peanut Butter Spread April 27, 2009 at 10:31 pm

    I’m not happy with the 22 point lead dwindling, but at the same time, I feel this game’s lead dwindling wasn’t the same as before.

    It was our bench (+ Kobe) vs. their bench (+ Korver/Okur/Millsap?)

    Our bench was trying to get Drew to get an offensive groove and I think that’s what took the bench out of sorts. Plus on top of their lackadaisical effort, Utah was fighting to stop elimination.

    And on cue … Charles is talking about our lack of killer instinct.

    I’ll say this and I’ll repeat this:

    Our starters have killer instinct. Especially in this game.

    But our bench doesn’t.

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  82. Most likely he’s still adjusting to the brace and getting his timing back. Probably an injury thing.

    But I do agree it seems like a bit more of a focus issue. It’s probably just off-timing, but if it’s a mental issue then that’s concerning. We’ll find out and see if he’s improving with more games.

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  83. Peanut Butter Spread April 27, 2009 at 10:33 pm

    270, Felipe –

    If it’s not “We want Tacos”

    or

    “Utah Sucks”

    then it was

    “Nah nah nah, hey hey hey, good bye.”

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  84. Yeah, I guess it was that third one.
    I like that.

    Thanks.

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  85. the rockets are notorious for blowing playoff series leads so until i see the rockets win that 4th game… i’m not counting the blazers out. they are better of course now that tmac is out of the picture…

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  86. Peanut Butter Spread April 27, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    Ariza’s girlfriend/wife is Japanese?!

    oooh … Dwayne Wade has back spasms. I remember how painful it was for Kobe last year … especially during the playoffs.

    does Zaza Pachulia look thinner compared to last year?

    I’m rooting for the Hornest, but at this point it’s pretty hopeless…

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  87. That’s a funny picture.

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  88. hornets are done. we’re meeting up denver in the western conf finals.

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  89. In one the LA Times articles, Bynum commented about not getting minutes and how that bothers him. Though tonight he wasn’t playing like he wanted those minutes. I’m disappointed in him. I hope he grows up by the next series and realizes that he needs to earn those minutes, because we’ll need him.

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  90. Peanut Butter Spread April 27, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    I disagree with Charles.

    I don’t think the Hornets “quit.”

    I think they were just bogged down with injuries.

    Over relied on Chris Paul.

    And like all the offensive problems they’ve been having over the years, they just have no offense. Everything is run through CP3. If CP3 is out of it, the rest of the team falls with him. Why?! Because everyone just stands around, there is no player movement, they just kinda watch.

    (almost reminds me when our offense gets stagnant)

    But yeah, that was really the Hornets problem. And that the Nuggets kinda sensed the Hornet’s injuries piling on to their tiredness and took advantage of playing rough. I mean, it was ugly what they did to CP3 out there.

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  91. Peanut Butter Spread April 27, 2009 at 10:54 pm

    *oops. I meant that the Hornets are having the same offensive problems they have been having all this year (not over the years).

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  92. Peanut Butter Spread April 27, 2009 at 11:07 pm

    Also,

    SHOUT OUT TO THE DUCKS!

    For also winning their series.

    Who saw that coming?!

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  93. Forgive my internet ineptness, but does anyone know where I can download a torrent of the game (or maybe even G1 + G2)?

    I’m stuck in Australia and only get access to a handful of games a week.

    Apart from Game 4 I have barely seen a Laker game in the past few months…

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  94. Request assistance please:

    I’m sure everyone here but me knows the answer to this, so I apologize: Sloan was kicked out but Fish only shot one T– did Sloan have another T earlier in the game that I don’t remember, or can a coach be kicked out of a game somehow without earning two technical fouls?

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  95. I use sportbit.org. Let me know if you need an invite.

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  96. This is another comment about us fans normal inability to have any sense of history or context when talking about players.

    I am referring to Bynum…
    1) He is returning from a long term injury and needs time to get his timing back.
    2) This particular matchup is really not to his advantage. He was going to have to guard either Boozer (very powerful and quicker around the basket) or Milsap (even shorter and also quicker).
    These guys don’t come straight at Andrew and they are constantly going under him. With his lack of conditioning and his rustyness, this is exactly the type of player that his going to get him into foul trouble.

    If we play Houston I expect Bynum to be much more effective against Yao.

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  97. Thanks so much!

    I’ve never been there before so I’m assuming I do require an invite?

    can I email you?

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  98. I’m not sure about the site’s current policy — they have open registration from time to time, but not always. If you find that you need an invitation, e-mail me at ewk0709(at)hotmail(dot)com.

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  99. The Mamba clearly dealt Utah a fatal blow tonight. His 4-pointer over Kirilenko was ridiculous. Lamar was the key to the series. Utah had no answer for him and he picked apart the Jazz defense. Now let’s hope we can get Bynum back into the groove.

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