Lakers/Nuggets Game 4 Chat

Kurt —  May 25, 2009

LAKERS
We can talk about the heroic efforts of Kobe Bryant or the steals of Trevor Ariza or the spotty point guard play or a hundred other things, but this series still comes down to one thing:

Can the Lakers control the paint?

In the second half of game three the Lakers did that — most importantly they kept Melo out of the lane, he had no baskets in the paint or anywhere else in the second half. Part of that was better defense inside by the Lakers, and part of that was that Denver fell in love with the jumper, especially the three, but couldn’t hit it. That will not happen again, be sure that they will attack the rim in game four. The Lakers defense needs to be ready, Bynum and Gasol needs some blocks without fouls.

At the other end of the floor, for all the Kobe amazing shots, it’s about getting points in the paint. Denver has basically taken a page out of the Celtics defensive schemes against the Lakers, and the Lakers need to counter that by getting the ball inside to Gasol/Bynum or a posted up Kobe, then making the smart pass out of the double, moving the ball and moving without the ball. Then hitting the shot when they get the look.

In the first half of game three, Denver got points inside by sending cutters that exposed the Lakers strong side zone defense — flooding the zone them hitting someone cutting off the weak side — and you can bet they will go back to that tonight. The Lakers defenders on the weak side need to be aware and be ready to cut those off. Denver can’t get that many layups if the Lakers expect to win.

One other reason the Nuggets got out on top to start the game was they took advantage of transition opportunities, both off turnovers and misses. They are running on everything they can, and on misses they are getting a lot of offense out of secondary break plays (drag screens, guys running to the three point line, etc.). The Lakers have to play much better transition defense, and be more aware of who is running and get to their man..

One final thing I think the Lakers will see more of tonight is Linas Kleiza. The guy is +16 for the series and the Nuggets are -21 for the series when he sits. He was a game changer in Denver’s win, and Karl is going to go with what is working.

What I hope to see in game four is more transition basketball from the Lakers. Game three saw more breaks and opportunities than the first two games, the Lakers good advantage of that, and they need to build on that.

The other thing the Lakers did well last game was get the ball to Kobe running him off screens coming off the high post. The Nuggets will counter this in an effort to continue playing ball-denial for Kobe. This is going to open other things up on give and goes and other counters — the Lakers players (Fisher for one) need to make the Nuggets pay when they do this. If Denver wants to take Kobe out of the game then their needs to be a cost.

We can expect another close game. Denver will come out playing with more desperation and energy than they did last game — they cannot afford to go down 3-1. Will the Lakers play loose like a team with nothing to lose after getting a win in game three? Which team will do better fighting through the exhaustion of last game? Will Denver or the Lakers execute best down the stretch?

This is going to be a fun one to watch.

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A few more haikus from after the last game.

Turrible

Melo sad for loss
Lakers in the driver’s seat
NBA relieved

Bill Bridges

Rip by Ariza
Kobe cuts out George Karl’s heart
Bloody, eats it raw


Kurt

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657 responses to Lakers/Nuggets Game 4 Chat

  1. Please play Mbenga and Powell for a few minutes to muscle these guys!

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  2. umm, where are the stops?

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  3. You can’t stop JR Smith, you can only hope to contain him.

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  4. we must get this under 10 by the half and keep driving to the basket

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  5. Off topic, Off game.

    Just realized how lucky Shaq was having a reliable sidekick at just about every stop in his NBA Career…

    … and how Kobe must have felt post-Shaq.

    First you get Lamar and hope he’s it. Nope. Then you get Bynum. Nope. Then you get Gasol… and urgh, he’s again so tantalizingly close but just as shaky as the other two.

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  6. Melo 0-9 and we’re still losing by 10.

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  7. that’s what so crazy Scot. We need to really step it up!

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  8. Don’t know about plyaing Powell. If he’d learn to keep the ball high when he’s about to dunk it, it would be a different story..

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  9. Is it just me or has Jeff Van Gundy become extremely annoying. I thought when he first started out announcing that he wasn’t too bad. But now he just runs and mouth and says nothing relevant at all.

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  10. anybody in chicago? watch the game at a bar?

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  11. Mr. Bryant has been making a concerted effort tonight to take it to the rack and there’s been some kind of Andrew Bynum sighting in Denver (at least so far) and that’s what’s kept us in the game. In order to close this gap we need those guys to keep that up, and everybody to get some stops while looking for good shots inside (I’m looking at you Pau)…

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  12. how good is he?

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  13. Mico, why would I like my team even when they are doing bad?

    Because I am a fan.
    Because I respect the game.
    Because they play better than me, therefore I don’t have the right to diss them or even put a stick in their foot.
    I can only state the obvious, I can only give the given, but I can’t say things to them like I play better than them.

    Because that’s the work of a coach and the team leader.

    So why would why I still love my team even when they are doing bad?
    The answer is there.

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  14. Kobe. Thank you.

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  15. Since when can you reach around a players back and grab his arm? I always thought that was a foul not a jump ball.

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  16. I’m pleased with Fish’s play so far tonight. It’s not the 3 that he hit, but the lack of boneheaded plays that I’m liking.

    1 FG from our bench? Wasn’t this group once revered as the best in the league? This is really, really embarrassing. Although tonight Phil’s Powell/Sasha lineup was a bit suspect.

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  17. ” Never underestimate the hops of a point guard” – Mark Jackson

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  18. that was a ridiculous call – martin fouled fisher clearly! kobe is single-handedly keeping us IN the game – but i don’t know how many times he can WIN the game for us

    we need help

    god – can miss anymore free throws?

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  19. Guys, could we drive and pump fake, KMART is a paratrooper he will jump for anything. LO, you can not just take it to him without a pump. Come on, Man.

    Fish, contributing in other ways, yeah, Fish!!

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  20. Pau. Thank you.

    Now, this is eerily like the other games where one team dashes out in the first and coughs up the lead in the 2nd.

    We know how this story ended before. Let’s hope for another familiar ending.

    And melo is like 0/10 now.

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  21. Box out!! Get the rebound!!! Come on.

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  22. Birdman, I hate basketball and don’t respect the game. I’m pretty sure that I’m better than even Kobe Bryant and therefore can diss him at will. I probably should even be coaching instead of Phil. Now am I allowed to make commentary when I don’t think the Lakers are playing well?

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  23. Kobe made that shot a lot more difficult than he needed to.

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  24. our defense is soooo pathetic it’s not even funny – it makes me want to cry

    it is called SELF-DESTRUCTION, we get close then decide “let’s give them back a couple easy points”

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  25. Denver 10 offensive boards. Inexcusable.

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  26. How much did Karl pay these refs? The lakers are getting whored.

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  27. Watching gamecast.

    Why are we giving up so many dunks?

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  28. Birdman,
    Where you an d I disagree is that I can love my team while disapproving of what they do and how they play. I can dislike the way they refuse to defend the paint, or drive into the paint on the other end and I can want to strangle them for not playing up too their full potential. I still love them, just not what they do.

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  29. Ryan – Agreed. That was an easy J off two dribbles or jab step J and he overcomplicated it.

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  30. We put them in the penalty with about 4 points left, but got absolutely nothing from it.

    Sick.

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  31. can they please stop “singing” about birdmann – it’s disgusting – to be praising a guy who was suspended for two years – can’t they pick anyone else to harp on who doesn’t have a rap sheet?

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  32. 204) Can he do any worse than what’s going on out there right now?

    Pau and Kobe are gassed, the only difference is Kobe is a stone-cold killer, so he brings it no matter what.

    Where are the rest of these guys that did not play the whole 2008 summer?

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  33. Bad call there. Should have been a charge.

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  34. seems like every charge/blocking ”iffy” call is going to the nuggz

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  35. It’s different giving the commentary and make a constructive criticism.
    Different than saying things like “Oh, he looks like a 10-year old like there” without even thinking what you just said.

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  36. no one in the league including lebron makes more difficult shots thank kobe

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  37. At least we’re still in single digits.

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  38. Can we get a moving screen call on Andersen?

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  39. could be a lot worse, but again too many minutes for pau and kobe

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  40. 21 minutes of play for Kobe.
    20 minutes of play for Pau.

    Our bench better come out with some real, real fire.

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  41. down by 7

    no biggie.

    nuggets havent even made one turnover

    we should be happy were down by 7.

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  42. 7 points is really doable. Tighten up on defense a little and keep the pressure up inside. The one thing we know about the Nuggets is that for all the hot starts, they will falter down the stretch. As long as we’re in a position to pounce when that happens, we’re in good shape.

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  43. Mimsy,
    I think we’re in the same page.
    Maybe I’ve been misquoted. I’m not good at constructing the right words.
    But we’re in the same page.

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  44. Denver bench is outscoring our bench 20-3. Wow.

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  45. what exactly did anderson get suspended for? if he was just addicted to drug and cleaned himself up, that’s ok with me. if it was drunk driving or something like that, that’s a different matter.

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  46. Kobe and Pau 29pts 50%FGM 11reb 6assist 3blocks

    Rest of the team 16pts 28%FGM 8reb 3assist 1block

    Kind of depressing……

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  47. Lakers outrebounded 31-19. Jebus.

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  48. I’m a little unsure why there’s so much frustration with Pau. I’ve absolutely loved his defense, with Bynum ineffective he’s picking up the slack and altering a ton of shots. Offensively he was aggressive near the end, just couldn’t hit FTs.

    JR Smith’s really opened up the game for everyone else. Did anyone see Sasha just blocking Smith’s path when he was trying to walk to the bench during a break in action? The guy tries so hard to be annoying. It’s entertaining, sort of.

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  49. Also, maybe Birdman can answer this, what’s with my home-boy ‘Melo taking all those jumpers? He’s only 1-11 from the field, you would think he would go back to where he’s been successful by banging our guys in the post, yet for some reason he keeps pulling up from 20 or so.

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  50. Kobe will pull it out.

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  51. how in the world are we even in this game? It’s not like we have a bench any more. Uggh. Come guys, let’s pick it up!

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  52. Lakers need to do a better job on the boards. No one is in foul trouble. Gasol and Kobe are playing too many minutes. (They have to to keep the Lakers in the game) Where was Bynum in the 2nd Q?

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  53. Attack the F’n rim!!!!

    We’re getting out-hustled on both sides of the ball and are very lucky to be so close. Denver is playing so much more aggressive than we are.

    Attack. Defend. Rebound.

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  54. I forget, who has the ball coming out of the half? Did we win the tip?

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  55. Pau’s heart May 25, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    I’m still in hiding

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  56. as a nuggets fan that is the very frustrating thing about melo is he sometimes falls in love with the jumper and fails to realize that he is basically unstoppable when he drives to the hole but i also would be surprised if he struggles all game im sure billups will talk to him about going to the hole

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  57. Nick, Denver has the ball first in the 2nd half

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  58. They get the ball. We have it for the fourth.

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  59. Nick the Great,

    I really don’t know what got to his mind showing off some mid-range jumpers.
    But I think, that’s what happens when you play Kobe 1-on-1 (either in defense or offense), you try to tell him “Hey, I can do it, too”.

    I agree good things happen when he drives to the hoop, but he’s just trying to do more in the perimeter than muscling his way into the paint.

    He has a pretty much reliable jumpshot if you’ve watch Denver games this season,but that’s because he doesn’t face much of a competition in the SF position, except for Lebron James when they play, and Melo owns the Cavs everytime they play.

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  60. As Mimsy said, I can support my team without liking the way that they currently play. If they are missing their shots, and being in a 15 point hole or a 40 point hole in the previous series, what should I do? Should I whoop it up?

    No, I get frustrated and ask why is fisher shooting so many threes? or say sasha has a poor shot selection this game.

    Now, i am with you about dissing, dissing is different than criticizing, saying “kobe sucks get him out of there”, or vujacic but in your post which I replied to, what you said was criticism.

    “Because they play better than me, therefore I don’t have the right to diss them or even put a stick in their foot.”

    Because if you bunch criticism and dissing, that pretty much puts every sports analyst, good or otherwise who’s not on the level of Michael Jordan or NBA Hall of famers into the same bunch.

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  61. After this first half, I can understand some of Bynum’s frustration. Often he works hard against the active Denver bigs to establish position. But as soon as he has, the ball is swung around the top. After some time, it really gets hard to be out there just throwing guys around on the offensive and defensive glass and setting picks. It also adds to the feeling that when you finally get the ball, maybe even a few feet out of your ideal range to just give it a try. And as a C, Bynum doesn’t even get to touch the ball much on passes or dribble it a bit, so it’s especially hard to stay in rhythm.

    Just reading Mo Williams’ guarantee for the Cavs to win the series, I stumbled over this sentence: “James has been doing his part. His teammates have not.” Not to start another senseless Kobe-KeBron debate, but when it was Smush and Kwame missing all the shots and not helping much, Kobe was not making his teammates better. Can’t have it both ways, in my opinion.

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  62. Pau is having an excellent game. He, Kobe, and Bynum are the only ones producing so far.

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  63. Anger Building May 25, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    Not happy with the way the Lakers played the first half but I still feel like the lakers will have a much better defensive effort in the second half which will lead to easy baskets. Still feel like the Lakers will win this game.

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  64. emh101 – thanks, I would rather have it to start the quarter.

    Birdman – He definitely has touch from out there, but there’s no sense in making the game tougher on himself. I wonder if it has something to do with that ankle and not being able to make hard stops on it.

    Joel – not true, sir, you’re also having an excellent game.

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  65. Okay, trying to be positive now: Gasol is playing like a hero. He’s just not making his free throws, but he’s aggressive, fearless, and the free throws will come. Kobe is being Kobe.

    Bynum played better than I expected, showed effort on defense and got some rebounds.

    We have more or less neutralized both Chauncey Billups and Carmelo Anthony.

    Despite missing the majority of our free throws, the bench giving us next to nothing, and a complete lack of interior defense, we are still only down by 7.

    Yes, this is definitely manageable.

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  66. I rarely, if ever, mention the refs. But both teams are bumping the ball handler and both teams are reaching in on shot attempts. Only we are getting called for those with more frequency…

    We’re giving up O-rebounds and dunks/layups because ALL of our guards/wings are struggling to control penetration. We’ve got to shut down the ball handler if we want to get stops consistently. We’re also not playing very smart by gambling for steals and by not marking our man when we’re not frontline helpers – that means you Kobe.

    Otherwise, I think we are okay. We’ve settled down on offense and are getting good looks. Gasol and Bynum have been agressive on the block and Kobe’s penetrated well. I know that Melo and Billups have not played well, but that happens – just like some of our wide open looks have rattled out. This game has followed the template of every other game this series and we’ve won two of those games. No need to panic.

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  67. Why couldn’t Bynum play more minutes in the first half he was effective. Sit Gasol when you bring Lamar in, that way Gasol can get a little rest. Come on Phil be creative on your roations.

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  68. I am currently watching this game with the sound turned down. Does anyone else hate listening to Van Gundy and Mark Jackson as much as I do. I just want to watch the game. Their incessant criticism and self importance is killing me. It would be nice is Sasha just stayed out of the game.

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  69. PS – the bench, including Lamar, is 1-11 with only 2 assists to go along with 3 turnovers and 5 fouls. We may not not be able to catch fire like we were at the start of the season, but our guys are better than that. Hopefully they pick it up a bit.

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  70. 257

    I’m not sure how to respond to that…

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  71. 259

    You’re not the only one. My only consolation is that even the 2 of them put together can’t match the awfulness of Reggie Miller.

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  72. Yes, I think he makes the game tougher by shooting those jumpers, but there’s really a slim chance he’s struggling because on his ankle.

    He is missing easy shots, “bunnies” as Kobe says it.

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  73. Gasol!!!!!!!!!

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  74. Simply ridiculous play by Pau.

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  75. Look at Pau playing like a two guard!

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  76. That should have been a travel on Anthony.

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  77. Bynum should repost instead of trying to set a pick for Fisher, but I guess he’s discouraged (understandably so) because they usually reverse the ball every time he passes out.

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  78. anthony is top 5 best players for us this game

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  79. That is an incredible move by Gasol. There are plenty of guards in this league that can’t pull off some of the things he does. (Of course, JVG had to ruin it by comparing him to Dr J…)

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  80. The thing that I don’t understand about our bench is that they all play bad at the same time, just as they all play well at the same time.

    How is Nene running the break?

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  81. Gasol is having a great game

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  82. two stops, two stops

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  83. ARIZA! Crucial 3! I believe!

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  84. that would have been huge if i hit that

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  85. stop with the 3’s already!! Take it to the hole and dish to the bigs!!

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  86. I will let Jones shoot threes all series long… Not a bad foul by ‘Drew, better to make him hit a couple than give up an open dunk.

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  87. fish is on a mission to stop us getting the lead

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  88. just let them shoot Js and we’d be fine by averages. give kobe some wind. he’ll deliver. 3-1 is still within reach.

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  89. Why is Bynum going out?

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  90. PJ, leave Bynum in, he is giving us something in the paint.

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  91. #274, chearn,
    It’s the hive mind.

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  92. “[Insert name here] though he got hit”

    This has been the story all through out the series. Every 10 seconds, everybody gets hit and refs are closing their eyes

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  93. I realize it’s Ariza’s style (and it definitely works) but he should be more judicious with his gambling. That’s 3 (maybe 4) times now I’ve counted him taking himself out of the play by flinging himself after the ball, and the Nuggets getting a score or FTs as a result.

    Having Jones in the game really help our SSZ defense.

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  94. …and then Phil immediately pulls him.

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  95. That seemed like an incredibly quick hook by Phil on Bynum

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  96. on the other hand this can not be a game of spurts or we’re doomed. this is a must win for us (not the game 3 level) for long-term reasons

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  97. horrible officiating

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  98. PJ, is failing the Lakers, miserably! Sorry to say it!!

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  99. If only we could get Odom going…

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  100. oh kobe has to step up much sooner now

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  101. wthell is Odom doing! ufff wake up man!

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  102. This is a little ridiculous. Phil’s leash on Bynum is non-existent. 3 minutes in, Bynum plays relatively well defensively, and there goes the hook. I don’t blame Bynum, anyone would get discouraged.

    We’ve given them momentum by making AWFUL offensive decisions. Run the ball through Kobe or Pau. Instead Ariza and Lamar with out of control drives, and giving Denver numbers on the break.

    Frustrating. Every time we get close, bad decisions let them blow it open again.

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  103. Obviously Odom has been so impressive that Phil had to get him out there… Look at that brilliant airball layup!

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  104. so many fouls! what’s going on there? we’re tired already? oh man lakers need some help.

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  105. I don’t wanna be that guy but… there’s some serious home cookin’ going on today.

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  106. Why do we want to resign Lamar again?

    Sorry, had to make a snide remark.

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  107. What frustrates me about ‘Drew getting pulled for Odom there is not just that he’s having a good game, but that Odom is also having a pretty bad one. It leaves me scratching my head a little.

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  108. Clarity: “Re-sign”

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  109. i think bynum stayed in but he showed absolutely no effort in those first few minutes in a miss he ignored the rebound and then he jogged back down the floor

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  110. Why so many threes?

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  111. 292, 287

    agreed.. they shd either call it loose or call it tight all the way.. if they can make the calls consistently (even the ticky-tack fouls) thats fine.. but if not i’d really like to see them let players play..

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  112. If we could pull this one, somehow, then I’d be feelling really good about closing in 5 considering that the bench tends to play lot better at home.

    Urgh.

    I don’t want them to return all tied up.

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  113. I really have a hard time understanding why Phil is pulling Bynum as well, but then again – Phil has a few more rings than I do, so I guess I have to trust his judgement.

    That being said, even I can see that they should go to Pau or Kobe every single time.

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  114. Yes, there is home cooking and the Lakers are providing all the ingredients, a la, airballs, none existent defensive rebound, missed free throws, can not buy a basket, no hustlbe.

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  115. Make Billups go left.

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  116. kobe goes on a hot-streak…fingers-crossed. man are we down to this? run some plays!

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  117. and BTW, if Kobe continues to drill the midrange jumpshots, I don’t think there can even be a question in terms of who’s the best player in the world

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  118. 7.29 left and we’re already in the penalty.

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  119. Lakers in the penalty with more than half to play in the 3rd. Let’s hope some reverse trends in the 4th (and somehow close the 3rd relatively well).

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  120. We need to start getting defensive stops. We haven’t had nearly enough of those.

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  121. lakers playing like they want this to end in game 6

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  122. I’m hoping Phil just resting bynum for a possible extended playing time in the 4th quarter.

    Of course, the rate this game is going that might be too late already

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  123. Thank you, that puts Kmart’s count at 3.

    Now let’s hope Lamar can tag him with just one more in this quarter.

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  124. the bench has to play on the road for a win today or in game 6. The way that they are playing game 6 could be the end of the series with a Denver win!!

    Can we activate Adam Morrison = )

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  125. Sasha should be at the end of the bench, period. It’s ridiculous that he’s even in these games this late in the season any more.

    And Odom’s playing stupid again…sigh.

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  126. Primetime Sam Roberts May 25, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    Two 7 footers and zero rebounds

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  127. lamar for 3! wow that’s a good sign

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  128. GET THAT BALL!

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  129. Now, if we can win this while being out rebounded by 6 every single quarter, shooting 3% less from the field, 10% worse from the line, coughing it up more, etc., i’m gonna call it a miracle…

    Denver isn’t going 1-10 from the 3 forever.

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  130. Nice effort from LO, but how does he blow that?

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  131. For a 6’10” PF, Odom has an uncanny knack for missing layups.

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  132. Oh shoot, our impatience creeps up again.

    PUT THEM IN THE PENALTY!

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  133. can we go to gasol please

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  134. please, please stop with the threes. Rebound, drive and make a layup, maybe then you can shoot a three.

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  135. that little bitch dahntay jones is getting torched tonightt

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  136. Cayucos Surfer May 25, 2009 at 7:59 pm

    So i turned the game on in the 3rd. We were down 4. First thing i see is Pau let Billups take a wide open lay up but slaps him just so he can get a free throw too. Then i saw LO throw up a ridiculous airball layup.

    Took a break for a second cause i was already pretty irked, then as soon as i look back were giving up an offensive rebound.

    I haven’t seen this Laker team play even a decent game in weeks. It’s starting to be disconcerting. I didn’t even want to watch the first half tonight. I caught almost every game this season and i find myself not even wanting to watch. We really are somewhat lucky to not be down in this series. If we keep playing like this i don’t see the title coming to LA this year, but you never know. They could just be messing with everyone.

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  137. Kobe is going to drop 40 pts in this half. I feel it.

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  138. Kobe looks pissed. The Nuggets should not want that to happen.

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  139. Is anyone else having flashbacks to the series against the Celtics last year…?

    And for the love of everything holy in basketball, can someone disconnect Van Gundy’s microphone and strangle him with the cord? The man is too stupid to be allowed on the air.

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  140. Dahntay Jones is a dirty player.

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  141. so why isnt bynum in? we’re letting them get way too many offensive rebounds

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  142. Pau has 4, now will he play Bynum. Nope, then we should just inactivate Bynum and go with Mbenga and Powell.
    What’s up with Phil?

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  143. oh yeah, another foul. not getting help from the whistle-blowers tonight. sigh. now i know how the celtics fans felt before the finals but with a twist that “I know we could do better against a determined opponent.”

    again, must be the laker 08-09 dna

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  144. GO TO THE BASKET LAMAR!

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  145. phil jackson please take odom outtt

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  146. I honestly dont think I have ever seen a team get out rebounded like this! I feel like its not even real

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  147. please get odom out

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  148. Primetime Sam Roberts May 25, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    Softest “big” men in the game

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  149. What time is Game 6?

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  150. Seriously, there is no reason for Odom to be out there instead of Bynum right now.

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  151. What’s wrong with LO? I love the guy but he’s killing us out there.

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  152. d jones is a dirty player…

    and i like jeff van gundy… hes entertaining

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  153. Lamar Odom is playing like crap and can someone pls teach the lakers how to grab a rebound.

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  154. Denver is shooting a little better and is out rebounding us on the offensive boards 16-6. That’s not going to get it done kids.

    I’ve been thinking about it, and here’s a possible explanation I came up with for Phil not playing ‘Drew in favor of a struggling Odom. We’re getting pounded on the glass, and though ‘Drew is bigger, I think that Lamar is actually probably the better rebounder, so that being the case, he might be sacrificing some scoring(?) and another big guy on D in favor of trying to even out the boards.

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  155. PJ is not taking LO out because he is letting Lamar destroy his chances for a re-sign this summer. This is PJ’s way to get rid of LO.
    Heck, I can’t think of any other reason that PJ is keeping LO in and not playing Bynum!

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  156. Cayucos Surfer May 25, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    This is ridiculous. LO is taking contested jump shots, nobody is even looking for Pau. We have a ridiculous size advantage and we are getting outrebounded by 18! Again it comes down to effort. I have never been so frustrated watching the Lakers as i have this postseason.

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  157. I’m almost feeling blasphemic, but I actually enjoy JVG. Maybe because I don’t take him seriously but at all;)

    This lack of rebounding is really annoying, and I’m betting Pau picking up his fourth will not exactly help the cause. I’m still perplexed with Drew not seeing any playing time. Did he make any crucial mistakes earlier that I missed?

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  158. oh sasha replaces pau…oh.

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  159. Put Mbenga in, to foul Jones hard just one time.

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  160. Kobe has thatt dont f*k with me look

    i wouldnt be surprised if he won the whole 4th quarter for us haha

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  161. If we lose this game, I forsee some very hard contact on Jones in the last few minutes…

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  162. So where are these “matchup” advantages people said we had prior to the series?

    Our team is just anemic right now, outside of Pau and Kobe. As balanced and well-constructed as this team was last year, we’re actually much worse now than we were during our playoff run last year. Superstars like Kobe need better shooters around them to be effective. Look how much trouble Lebron is having when West and Williams have gone cold.

    Dahntey Jones is an absolute thug. Talentless, moronic, idiot. I hope the refs watch this game and realize just how poor a performance they’re having.

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  163. Primetime Sam Roberts May 25, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    Jackson calls it like it is…Jones “dirty play”

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  164. does anyone else think game 5 is a must win – if we lose this? I am still very worried abou this team – how on earth can win this deep in the playoffs with only 2 players (kobe + gasol) everyone else is absolutely horrible , maybe minus ariza, denver gave us game 3 by shooting terribly – if we think we are automatically going to win at home it is a joke
    by the way – i had respect for the rockets – i have NO respect for the thuggets

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  165. maybe pj doesn’t want pau and bynum together though they’re playing better ball than any other frontline combo we’ve got…maybe

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  166. What is Sasha doing in there?

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  167. You mean any mistakes worse than LO and SASHA? NO!!

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  168. 357

    The matchup advantages were Kobe and Pau. Period.

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  169. I’ve been enjoying Van Gundy too lately. He’s improved a bit after falling in love with his shtick.

    That Jones trip looks worse with every replay.

    Kobe’s pissed, but there’s only so much he can do with no shooting. The lane is clogged and he has to force difficult jumpers because no one can clear him some space.

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  170. i hate dahantay jones

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  171. Phil’s rotations continue to make no sense.

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  172. Is this going to be another game where Kobe has to step up and rip his team mates a new one before the fourth quarter…? Lord know it can’t make them play any worse.

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  173. Maybe, this will wake Sasha up, one shot every game will not cut it though.

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  174. “i don’t like that arbitrary number of 7.. you should have 9 or 11..”

    – SVG

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  175. It’s gotta be Brown/Fish, Kobe, Ariza, Pau, Bynum for the majority of the fourth.

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  176. Was that really the last possession of the quarter? I think Kobe just wanted the nightmare to end.

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  177. sasha with one make every game, will not cut it

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  178. Lost all three quarters so far.

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  179. Every time Sasha hits a shot (that is, once every third game or something), I catch myself thining: “Finally – he’s back!”.

    Only to be dissapointed one minute later..

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  180. “id nail mop girl”

    hahahaha lol

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  181. This has been a frustrating game to watch, I can’t exactly put my finger on why. Maybe I just don’t like losing… Anyway, like I said, one thing we know is that the Nuggets will try to give it away down the stretch, as long as the Lakers can trim this down to a one or two possession game by the last three minutes, it’s still a game we can win.

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  182. eleven point lead. something looks nice about the numbers 66 and 77. oh well, if kobe or some combination of players don’t trim it down below 8 by the 5 minute mark, then it might as well be over. kobe doesn’t have enough legs to lift him up or to take the first step. but i’d rather the lakers take it to the nugget defense, get them in early penalty and rebound. those two, albeit bad shooting, can perhaps make the difference.

    and oh, bynum, pau and kobe must stay on court. lamar might have another shot. who’s keeping melo cold?

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  183. I say trade Shasha&Fish for a good young strong shooter like Rudy Fernandez

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  184. 374

    You can say it all you want, that won’t make Portland (or any other team) do it.

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  185. And also LO for a HUGE point guard

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  186. I was really hoping we can take this game – because each game this goes longer – i think the thuggets are at an advantage -the really almost won 3 of the previous 3 games

    how can kobe win it for us everytime? I feel really bad for kobe – he shows up every night – and his team can’t play decent every other game? it’s really sad……game 5 will be a nailbiter

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  187. Yikes, 66.

    Yea, Bynum, continue to make everyone question PJ’s rotation.

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  188. BYNUMITE!

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  189. 375
    Maybe we can trick someone like we did to the Grizz.LOL

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  190. sasha taking down momentum

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  191. its just too much to expect for sasha to make 2 in a row

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  192. sasha vujacic needs some serious help

    its pathetic already i dont know how he even plays.

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  193. jr smith showing us the door back!

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  194. Take Bynum out now Phil, I effin’ dare ya!!!!

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  195. Drew on fire – time to put him on the bench!

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  196. I think the rotations we’re seeing is the first signs that Phil is going senile. There is no other explanation.

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  197. phil keep bynum on the court and let him learn how to keep his fouls at a certain number. put pau in..oh that was our starting frontline ages ago!

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  198. Put Shasha out,bring Pau in and Luke to the SF

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  199. i officialy resign myself as a laker fan until either phil is fired or sasha is cut.

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  200. Anonymous,

    This is the thing that I have been saying about the Lakers, ever since this team was officially Kobe’s. Kobe brings it every game, even after a long run last year, the Olympics and a long season this year, Kobe still brings it. I ache for Kobe, so much, year after year after year.

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