Lakers/Magic Finals Game 2 Chat

Kurt —  June 7, 2009

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We’ve talked about how Game 2 really sets the tone for the series. This one will be closer than game one, let’s see if the Lakers can play up another level.


449 responses to Lakers/Magic Finals Game 2 Chat

  1. JD. It’s been a hard game for the fans to get into. So many fouls, a slow pace, long timeouts. Just no rhythm. But Kareem just got a nice hand.

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  2. I have a feeling that Kobe would dominate ball possession in the fourth

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  3. In my opinion, they are doubling Howard too much. Let’s see if he can make a couple of shots first. It’s not like he’s been lighting Pau up?

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  4. could someone smarter then me inform me why our offense is so bad right now

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  5. That could very well be a good thing Mico…

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  6. Anyone else realize our best point guard doesnt even play, its so funny phil is to stubborn to play Shannon even though the dude comes in cold every game and is the best small man on the floor. Very strange for a zen man to not go with the present, I know we can without him but not only is he the best defender and shooter of our points hes a crowd pleaser.

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  7. fisher needs to make a couple more of those to jusify his moon bootb defense while brown and farmar sit there watching.

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  8. I’m wringing my hands a little bit here…

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  9. Phil needs to put Drew ASAP back In the game let him foul out his presence defensively is being missed right now

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  10. j. d. hastings June 7, 2009 at 6:58 pm

    The energy in this game is like its the middle of february. Dial it up, Lakers. Kobe’s last 2 shots were just ill-conceived, based on thinking about what happens IF they go in, rather than executing a high percentage play (like his assist to fisher, which was an excellent play).

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  11. I do not know if the Lakers can give Kobe a rest at the start of the 4thQ. He needs to be in the game

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  12. We need to get some stops… offense will come off our stops. We should not give Magic any reason to feel confident in this series

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  13. Is it true LA has been undefeated this whole season while playing Sunday white uniforms?

    http://twitpic.com/6uzml

    So, too many “undefeateds” here, huh? 😀

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  14. Lakers are playing sloppy and shooting cold and are still only down by 2. If they can focus in the 4th they should take this.

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  15. We’ve been totally driven out of the paint tonight.

    Gotta attack more and get the game to closing mode with FTs. Limit Howard by getting FTs so he can’t participate in transition offense.

    Seriously, we made no baskets in the paint this quarter and that’s really not gonna cut it.

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  16. This looks really bad for the Lakers. They have had no offensive rhythm the whole game, a bench mob that cant score well will be on the floor for them, unless Bryant is left in. This is gonna be a really important first 4-5 minutes of the quarter. We gota contain the Magic hot shooters better

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  17. Kobe has to wait the game arrives to him.Don t force such ugly shots.You are not going to get a Jordan-like performance every day.Keep sharing the ball and play hard D one-one on Howard.Start with Drew and when he get fouled out switch to Pau.That would do it.

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  18. Brown and Bynum in to start the fourth.

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  19. This is the Finals, and you have 42 hours of rest before Game 3 in Orlando.

    Kobe needs to play in the 4th.

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  20. And note to ABC: Howard does not have 3 blocked shots.

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  21. GOOD FOUL BROWN~

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  22. Can we just put orlando jerseys on the refs?

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  23. Odom and Bynum with 4 each.

    Our team already racked up 3.

    This is a recipe for disaster.

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  24. ODOM!

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  25. The worst part with the refereeing is that you know the conspiracy theories and paranoia is going to continue anyway… no matter how they call it.

    On that note, Lamar is doing great despite being hacked on every possession. I like what we’ve gotten from him so far.

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  26. phil’s smiling?

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  27. That turnover was on Brown, you stay in that pressure relief spot in the corner until the shot is up.

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  28. these fouls on bynum are ridiculous and weak. refs are killin the lakers

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  29. Lamar channeling his inner Kobe

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  30. That was a HORRIBLE call!!

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  31. That’s a clean block.

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  32. Odom playing like our 2nd option circa 2005-2006

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  33. That looked like a clean block.

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  34. Unless we start drawing some fouls, this game is going to be really, really, painful.

    On the bright side, if we do pull this one off, it has to be demoralizing.

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  35. man our crowd is like watching a november opener

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  36. Why is Hedo allowed to clothesline Ariza?

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  37. harold, it not a matter of drawing fouls. It’s a matter of the refs calling them.

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  38. lewis and turkoglu showing us what to expect come game 3

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  39. im so sick of this officiating

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  40. I have a suggestion: Guard Lewis.

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  41. Orlando has rebounded 27% of its missed shots, the Lakers 6.7%.

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  42. Refs should have counted that 3 on Kobe. WOW. just Wow. I almost dropped my laptop.

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  43. Mimsy, in that case, I see another 25k fine coming up for PJ and the Lakers.

    We’ve attempted less FTs than they’ve made, and still only behind two. I guess there’s something to that, but we really have to get something going.

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  44. The Lakers are not in position to rebound as they were last game. Is that a result of the Magic being more energetic on the boards or the Lakers less so?

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  45. yeahp birdman, jvg feels the same way about that shot. if only.

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  46. Cayucos Surfer June 7, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    OK.. I officially hate Steve Javie. This is ridiculous. Good, clean defense is a foul, and fighting through a screen is illegal. soo.. how are we supposed to stop them again?

    im sure it will even out as we get to the end of the game.. i hope.

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  47. I am not worried, unless the refs take it away the better team should win tonite.

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  48. Seriously, sometimes I wonder how you guys live with all these commercial breaks. There’d be riots in Europe if they did this to soccer games.

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  49. We cant buy a foul in this game. EVen if we had 50K

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  50. Aren’t there riots in soccer games no matter what?

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  51. This game, our guys probably get called for a foul by looking at the Laker Girls funny.

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  52. emh101: Touché;)

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  53. great now attack howard

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  54. whatta?! a foul?!

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  55. I am now at the point where I am genuinely thinking: If they are calling just about anything anyway, why not just do a Rondo? Knock some teeth out, injure someone. You’re going out anyway, go out causing damage.

    I’d be ashamed of that thought if I wasn’t so frustrated by the way this has been officiated. This is either deliberate bias or glaring incompetence, and I’m not sure which is worse.

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  56. With us being in the penalty, the refs are now in a position to save any botched offensive possession by the Magic.

    This is going to get uglier unless we witness something great again.

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  57. Whats the defination of clutch free throws? 2 free throws with 4mins left?

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  58. im sick of the NBA,if the lakers lose by two on top of all the bad calls we gotta look at a dude blocking a shot through the rim, i mean that has to be the worst missed call in the history of pro sports. you got three dudes watching the basket.

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  59. j. d. hastings June 7, 2009 at 7:24 pm

    Okay, so the key to kobe getting a foul call is to not get fouled

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  60. Go Lakers!

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  61. make up call

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  62. That great performance is coming from Ariza.

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  63. eh? dwight goes 2 for 2 and kobe misses? hehe not really our night

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  64. Turkoglu does that alot, use his off hand to push the defender out of the way

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  65. FINALLY! Magic in the penalty too.

    Good god, now we are in for some clutch FT shooting.

    Dwight vs. Kobe

    Let’s see how this ends.

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  66. Has anyone else noticed that the refs don’t dare to call any more bad fouls after getting yelled at by Jack?;) Respect.

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  67. Okay… trying to be constructive here. There’s 3 minutes left and we have Kobe, Pau, Lamar and Ariza. Let’s FOCUS!

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  68. hey a dude thats slower then fisher on the floor.

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  69. I know it has been ugly, but I must say, that this game has been both excruciating yet a ton of fun to watch, win or lose.

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  70. #266, Andreas,
    They’re afraid he’s going to attack them! 🙂

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  71. And Jack can’t get fined by the NBA. You tell ’em, Jack!

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  72. this game tape needs to be locked away and burned for the good of all mankind

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  73. 2:42 left but both in the penalty…

    so another 30 minutes of gaming left?

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  74. I agree a close game is better for the memories but im sick of bad officiating, not just for the laker just the whole playoffs. Like all the bs flagrants, then brad miller gets decked and nothing. The fact that these dudes know they are getting criticized but between the whole crew they cant see a dude put his hand through the hoop. I mean its just attrocious. We would be better off letting dudes call their own fouls, and shoot for it.

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  75. 45 minutes for a few TV timeouts as well.

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  76. ITs happening, its happening i am starting to hate the MAGIC

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  77. Ooooo…. crap! That bruise is going to slow down Kobe.

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  78. Games like this, there’s a T lurking to be called…

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  79. They are hitting some nice shots.

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  80. Wow. Bigtime shot by Hedo. That quieted the crowd here, who had been rockin.

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  81. One stop. One stop. Just one stop.

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  82. its gonna fng happen we are gonna lose by the goal tend.

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  83. Cayucos Surfer June 7, 2009 at 7:34 pm

    This is pretty much about what i expected for this game. Close down to the wire. We haven’t been able to get any flow going at all, and part of that is poor officiating, but a big part of it is that were just being indecisive with the ball. Too many turn overs and bad decisions.

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  84. Don’t the Lakers realize that Turkoglu isn’t going to drive late in the game. He always does the drive-fake, step-back jump shot.

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  85. I can not take this anymore, I will have a heart attack before the game is over.

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  86. you cant get stops with fisher on the floor if you watch the defensive breakdowns he has just been burned over and over all nite.

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  87. This is EXACTLY what Lakers fans have been dreading.

    Up and Down calls. No rhythm. Orlando hanging around and then making shots late.

    Go Lakers!

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  88. What I don’t understand is why they don’t force Hedo right! Everyone should know he’s gonna step back to the left for that shot.

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  89. Hope this game ends before lunchtime.

    It’s 11:36 am right now…

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  90. GO LAKERS!! Stop and score. Stop and score. Give it to Pau!

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  91. Thats the stop we needed

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  92. Just dont even shoot lets go OT.

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  93. Its Kobe time

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  94. Wow, we just dodged a big bullet there.

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  95. Pau in both ends¡¡¡

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  96. Defend the 3.

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  97. Kobe needs to go to the basket

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  98. I want to see Kobe catch the ball on the wing, screen from Gasol, cross-screen by Ariza for Odom, Odom cuts to the lane and gets a lay-up due to all the attention paid to Bryant.

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  99. Stop! Kobe time!

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  100. Now can we get those two points back from the refs… they can change a two to a three two quarters later but they cant review a goaltend, amazing happens.

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  101. j. d. hastings June 7, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    clean block.

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  102. How the **** is that not a foul!?!?

    Go get them Jack!

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  103. Please no OT.. Lamar’s already got 5, and the refs will do everything to take this one away from us

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  104. that was a clean block

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  105. Too predictable.Kobe should have faked the shot and pass to Pau,

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  106. Not Kobe’s night tonight.

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  107. (For the record, I want it called on Lewis, not Hedo. His block was clean.)

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  108. So much for getting this game wrapped up before lunch.

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  109. Kobe

    clean block,

    and L.O. was open there,

    oh well

    hope he kills them in OT

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  110. Mimsy, it was a foul any time but that late. Has to be a mugging with the game on the line like that. Just the way it is.

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  111. I’d put Bynum in to precent the alley-oop..

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  112. and they’re giving .3 of a second

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  113. I thought it was .6.

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  114. If the magic hit this shot, im gonna shave my head

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  115. Just look at Howard pushing Pau away….No call ,of course.

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  116. PHEW!

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  117. Lee could have won it twice.

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  118. its a no lose situation tonite either we win im happy or i get to hear phil criticize the officiating in post game either way, its all good.

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  119. Lakers escaped there, Lee should have made that. SVG with a great play.

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  120. wow, dodged a bullet there

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  121. Call the Lakers Neo, ’cause they’re dodging bullets all over the place.

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  122. PHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEW

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  123. Kudos to S.V.Gundy.Lucky us¡

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  124. Yikes!

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  125. That was a well designed play by the Magic

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  126. omg how did he miss, two major chokes by lee

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  127. Crowd gasped right there.

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  128. Let’s see how long Bynum can stay in OT.

    Gotta save Lamar even for a bit.

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  129. oh god i don’t feel good, someone call 911

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  130. Kobe sagged off… Had Lee made it, Kobe would be under a lot of criticism tomorrow

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  131. Okay, I know this goes against all my comments about the refs in this thread so far, but let’s not turn into the kinds of fans that blame everything on the refs. And I don’t mean that personally to anyone commenter here, especially not since I’m guilty of it myself at times.

    We should have rebounded better and moved the ball better. We made mistakes on defense, and our shooting % was not the best, and those factors more than the refs, are why we are now going into over-time.

    Let’s not join the conspiracy theorists and become the types of fans that we hate. We don’t need the refs’ help to win games. And because we don’t, we should be honest enough to admit that it’s not because of them we sometimes lose.

    Now, we are going into over-time. Let’s get them. Let’s win this.

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  132. kobe didnt sag, lewis layed a nice screen to free lee

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  133. I want to hate the Magic but I realize I just hate the NBA and its geriatric overpayed overprotected officials.

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  134. Drew will kill them in OT

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  135. crap Kobe is in “he cant guard me mode” be prepared to ride or die with Kobes.

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  136. Getting tired of watching Turkoglu hook Ariza to get open.

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  137. That point that Van Gundy just made about Fish is the smartest thing he ever said. If I am the Magic, I am just trying defend his shot when he drives, don’t give him passing lanes.

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  138. drews not allowed to play more then two times down the court without a foul.

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  139. Kobe is killing our offense holding the ball too long.

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  140. best game fish has had in a long time

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  141. Our effort is definitely there.

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  142. God…Fisher makes my heart stop when he goes to the basket

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  143. Redick is a liability for them.

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  144. FIsher is having a great game, very veteran right now, he is an important presence on the floor for us

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  145. YES! Perfect play by Kobe and Gasol. Absolutely perfect.

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  146. *can’t type*
    *wringing hands*

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  147. Nice!! Gasol with the basket and the foul

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  148. oh that was basketball god justice right there that ball was halfway down.

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  149. Yeah baby, way to go guys…

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  150. I take back anything negative I might possibly have said earlier about Fisher leading a fast break.

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  151. Great play!

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  152. Kobe to Gasol FTW

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  153. still too much time, don’t let up!
    match the intensity! they won’t give up!

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  154. This is the loudest the crowd sounded since Lewis shot an airball.

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  155. NO 3’s NO 3’s. Defend the 3

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  156. Fisher with the steal and the two free throws was huge as well.

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  157. great play by Kobe

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  158. Come on Lakers! Get this game!!!

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  159. ariza and fisher – 3 steals each and at the right times, to boot.

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  160. magic playing 3v5 right now

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  161. horrendous call by Javie

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  162. Kobe needs to learn that he has to be a star to get calls like that, oh and Howard arguing a call. Its official
    I hate Dwight Howard.

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  163. Kobe is making this game interesting.

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  164. time to make FT’s

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  165. Howard is hurting the Magic right now with his chippy fouls

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  166. And people say Pau’s not clutch?

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  167. Even if Orlando loses this game, they showed us that they’re going to make it a series. Lakers can’t give up a three here, do not double Dwight, just don’t do it. Stay with your man.

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  168. Laker D bailing out Kobe’s O.

    Now if we can get this, we’ve handed them a blowout and a close loss in OT.

    And we can’t lose 3 in a row, even at Orlando, can we?

    Looking good…

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  169. wow excellent execution by the magic

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  170. That was the same shot that Lewis hit to tie it up against the Cavs in the last series.

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  171. Haha I love how Jack is signaling for a two!

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  172. lewis and turkoglu are tremendously clutch shooters

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  173. Orlando needs to foul, not enough time left

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  174. j. d. hastings June 7, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    Its clearly a 3

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  175. Seriously, Magic plays an A game and we’re still capable of winning the game?

    73 points from Lewis, Turkoglu, and Howard. Check.

    10 made threes. Check.

    +11 in rebounds. Check.

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  176. I’m sorry. It’s they’re not we’re.

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  177. Odom has been cold-blooded tonight. He gets the game ball.

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  178. i love the way odom has played tonight

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  179. Yes!!!!! 2-0 LEAD

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  180. Odom with clutch free throws. Major props.

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  181. Why was Redick in there?

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  182. How tense was this game? – No chants of “we want tacos”

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  183. Hey, tacos.

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  184. we dodged an ICBM on that one.

    whew!!!

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  185. Lamar made two free throws! Phew!

    I really hope I have some of that vodka left… I need something very nerve-numbing after this ordeal.

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  186. I need a drink, a shower and a throat lozenge!

    We win a game where toughness, and determination, mattered most! Um, and a bit of luck with Lee missing that alley-oop at the end.

    Win by 25, win by 5, still a win!

    Go Lakers!

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  187. lots of not-so-great decision making by kobe in this game. THANK GOODNESSS WE GOT THIS ONE.

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  188. Sheesh, survive it right! But give the guys credit for hitting clutch free throws down the stretch. It’s a very good thing Jameer Nelson isn’t at 100%, or they would have won this going away…We really need to move the ball better on offense in game 3.

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  189. j. d. hastings June 7, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    Phew. That game was painful for 3 quarters, but the last 2 periods were all about execution. Both teams had stretches of great execution and poor execution. Clutch plays by both teams- some great team prep by SVG- but the lakers do just a little more.

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  190. I’m not sure if that win makes me feel good or bad. Happy we held serve at home, that we executed when we had to, that we survived a strong, strong Orlando effort; not happy that we struggled all game long to guard fkn Hedo and Lewis and the defensive rebounding has got to pick up. Still – win’s a win and almost all of our guys made some bigtime contributions.

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  191. man, first time in a long time other lakers won it instead of Kobe down the stretch. Actually more like despite Kobe.

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  192. now the orlando magic have to win 4 out of 5 against the lakers. not sure if that is going to happen

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  193. I can’t find the post-game coverage! Anyone know where it is?

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  194. if orlando had reliable guards they would be very good, i think with a healthy nelson they beat us

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  195. Mimsy —-Fox Sports West has some post game coverage

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  196. LA still undefeated when i attend a Kobe game. 😀
    LA still undefeated this season when they wear their Sunday white uniforms. 😀

    But guys, remember, they had 2 wins as well in the Finals last year.

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  197. Lamar&Pau are clearly the MVP of the game.
    43pts (plus 2 stolen) 18rebs 70%FGM

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  198. Mimsy,

    Channel 7 ABC is doing a post game if you’re in L.A.–unfortunately w/out my favorite Laker commenter Michael Cooper.

    Wow, whatta win….

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  199. I got to say it. The Lakers won because they were “tough” haha. I mean Lakers could not get a flow offensively the whole game, Turk and Lewis were hot, Kobe wasnt dominant, yet we still pull out a win. What a great effort and a classic game!

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