Comments on: Faith Rewarded http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/06/11/faith-rewarded/ A Lakers Blog. Thoughts, reflections, and the odd rant on the Los Angeles Lakers and the NBA (even the Clippers). Thu, 09 Feb 2012 05:53:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Aaron http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/06/11/faith-rewarded/comment-page-4/#comment-620695 Aaron Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:33:15 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1649#comment-620695 fair enough... my mistake fair enough… my mistake

]]> By: Darius http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/06/11/faith-rewarded/comment-page-4/#comment-620612 Darius Mon, 15 Jun 2009 06:49:04 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1649#comment-620612 Aaron, I only respond now, in the midst of me celebrating, to make sure that the facts on this are right. MJ was 35 when he won his last title. The Finals were played in June 1998 (he was born in Feb 1963). He retired for the second time, after his last championship, in Jan 1999 before the start of the lockout season. After being drafted in 1984 and through the 1998 season, he played 12 and a half seasons and not the full 14 seasons (due to his retirement after the Bulls' first three peat and flirtation with baseball). This past season was Kobe's 13th full season. So, as I was saying earlier, it's not that big a jump to compare the effectiveness of these two great players at those stages of their careers as they had essentially played the same number of seasons and had just as many NBA miles on their legs. Aaron,
I only respond now, in the midst of me celebrating, to make sure that the facts on this are right. MJ was 35 when he won his last title. The Finals were played in June 1998 (he was born in Feb 1963). He retired for the second time, after his last championship, in Jan 1999 before the start of the lockout season. After being drafted in 1984 and through the 1998 season, he played 12 and a half seasons and not the full 14 seasons (due to his retirement after the Bulls’ first three peat and flirtation with baseball). This past season was Kobe’s 13th full season. So, as I was saying earlier, it’s not that big a jump to compare the effectiveness of these two great players at those stages of their careers as they had essentially played the same number of seasons and had just as many NBA miles on their legs.

]]> By: Aaron http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/06/11/faith-rewarded/comment-page-4/#comment-620606 Aaron Mon, 15 Jun 2009 06:31:20 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1649#comment-620606 How old was michael jordan when he won his last ch... “ Michael Jordan won his last championship in 1999 at the age of 36. He retired for several years after that season. http://www.chacha.com/question/how-old-was-michael-jord... How old was michael jordan when he won his last ch…
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Michael Jordan won his last championship in 1999 at the age of 36. He retired for several years after that season.
http://www.chacha.com/question/how-old-was-michael-jord...

]]> By: Aaron http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/06/11/faith-rewarded/comment-page-4/#comment-620604 Aaron Mon, 15 Jun 2009 06:24:20 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1649#comment-620604 I would never want to correct you... But in the finals (at the end of the season) he was 34,35, and 36. Kobe played at age 29 last year in the finals. I don't think his wear and tare puts more than 4 years on him. But... he still is the 3rd best player in my estimation of all time. He is a hell of a ball player. But please don't compare him to Jordan... its not fair to kobe. Cause your comparing him to the best player of all time. A freak of nature like Lebron. If I had to pick a players mind and soul to put in a basketball player it would be Kobe's. He is the smartest player I have ever seen play (although his confidence does make him hold the ball and force up shots too often) and I feel he is the most competitive. He is my favorite player of all time. People talk about Jordan... and that makes me laugh. After all the stories about him partying in Vegas and late night before playoff games. That never helps your performance. Congrats on a great season... but I want more rings out of this group. At least 3 more or they have under achieved. Unless of course Lebron gets another all star to play with him. Then I would accept Lakers loss' in the Finals to the Cavs. I only hope Bynum is 100% next year and because two huge clutch shots doesn't make me forget he gave us very little this post season, I hope Fisher gets benched. And of course we need to resign both Ariza and Odom. See you next year. And thanks for all you do here on the forum. I would never want to correct you… But in the finals (at the end of the season) he was 34,35, and 36. Kobe played at age 29 last year in the finals. I don’t think his wear and tare puts more than 4 years on him. But… he still is the 3rd best player in my estimation of all time. He is a hell of a ball player. But please don’t compare him to Jordan… its not fair to kobe. Cause your comparing him to the best player of all time. A freak of nature like Lebron. If I had to pick a players mind and soul to put in a basketball player it would be Kobe’s. He is the smartest player I have ever seen play (although his confidence does make him hold the ball and force up shots too often) and I feel he is the most competitive. He is my favorite player of all time. People talk about Jordan… and that makes me laugh. After all the stories about him partying in Vegas and late night before playoff games. That never helps your performance. Congrats on a great season… but I want more rings out of this group. At least 3 more or they have under achieved. Unless of course Lebron gets another all star to play with him. Then I would accept Lakers loss’ in the Finals to the Cavs. I only hope Bynum is 100% next year and because two huge clutch shots doesn’t make me forget he gave us very little this post season, I hope Fisher gets benched. And of course we need to resign both Ariza and Odom. See you next year. And thanks for all you do here on the forum.

]]> By: Darius http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/06/11/faith-rewarded/comment-page-4/#comment-620038 Darius Sun, 14 Jun 2009 21:36:18 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1649#comment-620038 Aaron, I hear what you're saying that Jordan was older than Kobe during those Finals - and although Jordan (born Feb 1963) was actually 33, 34, and 35 in those seasons, I still see your point. However you're also forgetting that while Kobe is only 30 right now, he came into the league at a much younger age and probably has the same if not more games/minutes under his belt right now as MJ did during those series. So, to me, it's not the big a jump to compare those stats at those ages (especially when you consider that MJ did take a full season and a half off to play baseball). Aaron,
I hear what you’re saying that Jordan was older than Kobe during those Finals – and although Jordan (born Feb 1963) was actually 33, 34, and 35 in those seasons, I still see your point. However you’re also forgetting that while Kobe is only 30 right now, he came into the league at a much younger age and probably has the same if not more games/minutes under his belt right now as MJ did during those series. So, to me, it’s not the big a jump to compare those stats at those ages (especially when you consider that MJ did take a full season and a half off to play baseball).

]]> By: Aaron http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/06/11/faith-rewarded/comment-page-4/#comment-620032 Aaron Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:36:10 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1649#comment-620032 159, ummmm.... Jordan was 34,35, and 36. Show MJ's stats in the finals when he was 28,29, and 30. Thanks. Zephid, Your post was interesting because in it you proved yourself wrong. Fisher did kill us like you said throughout the entire playoffs and he did hit two gigantic clutch shots that most likely will clinch the Lakers 15th championship. But the smart question to ask is would the Lakers be down by 3 with 10 seconds left in the game if Fisher didn't go 0-5 on open threes and let Alston destroy him in the 1st half and Nelson drive by him at will in the 4th setting up open shooters and Dwight Howard dunks? Its the classic baseball quote... "I never liked them guys who drive in 2 runs and let in 3." Fisher let in 3 runs and drove in 2 at the end of the game. But I am very thankful for the 2. 159,
ummmm…. Jordan was 34,35, and 36. Show MJ’s stats in the finals when he was 28,29, and 30. Thanks.

Zephid,
Your post was interesting because in it you proved yourself wrong. Fisher did kill us like you said throughout the entire playoffs and he did hit two gigantic clutch shots that most likely will clinch the Lakers 15th championship. But the smart question to ask is would the Lakers be down by 3 with 10 seconds left in the game if Fisher didn’t go 0-5 on open threes and let Alston destroy him in the 1st half and Nelson drive by him at will in the 4th setting up open shooters and Dwight Howard dunks? Its the classic baseball quote… “I never liked them guys who drive in 2 runs and let in 3.” Fisher let in 3 runs and drove in 2 at the end of the game. But I am very thankful for the 2.

]]> By: timmy http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/06/11/faith-rewarded/comment-page-4/#comment-619998 timmy Sun, 14 Jun 2009 10:21:34 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1649#comment-619998 All Kobe haters eat this: Jordan stats in NBA Finals: 1995-96 G:6 MIN: 42.0 FG% .415 3%.316 FT% .836 RB: 5.3 A: 4.2 ST: 1.7 BL: 0.17 TO: 3.0 PPG: 27.3 1996-97 G: 6 MIN:42.7 FG%.456 3%.320 FT%.764 RB:7.0 A:6.0 ST:1.2 BL. 0.83 ST 2.2 TO. 2.3 PPG 32.3 1997-98 G: 6 MIN 41.7 FG% .427 3%.308 FT%.814 RB 4.0 A: 2.3 ST 1.8 BL 0.67 TO 1.7 PPG 33.5 Where's love for Kobe? All Kobe haters eat this:
Jordan stats in NBA Finals:
1995-96
G:6 MIN: 42.0 FG% .415 3%.316 FT% .836 RB: 5.3 A: 4.2 ST: 1.7 BL: 0.17 TO: 3.0 PPG: 27.3
1996-97
G: 6 MIN:42.7 FG%.456 3%.320 FT%.764 RB:7.0 A:6.0 ST:1.2 BL. 0.83 ST 2.2 TO. 2.3 PPG 32.3
1997-98
G: 6 MIN 41.7 FG% .427 3%.308 FT%.814 RB 4.0 A: 2.3 ST 1.8 BL 0.67 TO 1.7 PPG 33.5
Where’s love for Kobe?

]]> By: Ray Sharpe http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/06/11/faith-rewarded/comment-page-4/#comment-619909 Ray Sharpe Sat, 13 Jun 2009 01:23:57 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1649#comment-619909 Boy, I hope that was a joke, Will. I hate to think that Gasol made your girl cry. The fact is the Magic aren't going away. They've had a great run, beating the Celtics and the Cavs, and should be applauded for it. I'm not the only one who thinks Dwight Howard needs to develop some posts moves, but I think we forget how young he still is. He looks like a man. He rebounds and plays defense like a man, but he's really still just a kid. I don't want to think about trying to stop him once he develops. Boy, I hope that was a joke, Will. I hate to think that Gasol made your girl cry. The fact is the Magic aren’t going away. They’ve had a great run, beating the Celtics and the Cavs, and should be applauded for it. I’m not the only one who thinks Dwight Howard needs to develop some posts moves, but I think we forget how young he still is. He looks like a man. He rebounds and plays defense like a man, but he’s really still just a kid. I don’t want to think about trying to stop him once he develops.

]]> By: Will http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/06/11/faith-rewarded/comment-page-4/#comment-619901 Will Sat, 13 Jun 2009 00:01:32 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1649#comment-619901 I will too. . .as a Magic fan I've only had the chance to make it this far twice. The first time I was twelve going on thirteen. Now I'm a few weeks from 27 and I'm holding my little girl. Very odd. Pau Gasol made my little girl cry. Maybe that's why I took umbrage with the dunk. Haha. Kidding I will too. . .as a Magic fan I’ve only had the chance to make it this far twice. The first time I was twelve going on thirteen. Now I’m a few weeks from 27 and I’m holding my little girl. Very odd.

Pau Gasol made my little girl cry. Maybe that’s why I took umbrage with the dunk. Haha. Kidding

]]> By: Birdman http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/06/11/faith-rewarded/comment-page-4/#comment-619898 Birdman Fri, 12 Jun 2009 23:55:52 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1649#comment-619898 Actually, I'm not a Laker fan by default because I'm a Denver fan first but I appreciate Kobe's game. My job makes it easy for me to go around places since that's what I do. Anyways, I'll stay here till Monday and Lakers will win in the road. If I have known I was a good luck charm of the Los Angeles Lakers I would have attended 82 games in the regular season. ;) My record is somewhere in the mid-40s and it's still sad to see Gina's unbeatable record go as well. Actually, I’m not a Laker fan by default because I’m a Denver fan first but I appreciate Kobe’s game.
My job makes it easy for me to go around places since that’s what I do.

Anyways, I’ll stay here till Monday and Lakers will win in the road.

If I have known I was a good luck charm of the Los Angeles Lakers I would have attended 82 games in the regular season. ;)

My record is somewhere in the mid-40s and it’s still sad to see Gina’s unbeatable record go as well.

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