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		<title>By: rye-manila</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/06/15/relive-it-one-more-time/comment-page-2/#comment-620813</link>
		<dc:creator>rye-manila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cheers to the champs!</description>
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		<title>By: John T</title>
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		<dc:creator>John T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 06:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One word: Joy!

See ya all Wednesday!</description>
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<p>See ya all Wednesday!</p>
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		<title>By: Hawaiian Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hawaiian Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 04:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having grown up watching the Lakers as a kid, 
being put to bed with the radio sound of chick hearn in my ears, 
remembering Rudy LaRusso, the lakers power forward in the early sixties at a LA sports arena game, 
guarding Bob Petit, the great St. Louis Hawks forward, 
going up for a rebound 
coming down with Bob Petit 
Bob&#039;s arm locked behind his back
the two of them thrown out

mostly remembering how close elgin, jerry, gail, keith  etal. got....  

this is really sweet.  

Thanks Kurt for nurturing this wonderful site and thanks to this community for heightening the fun and helping me appreciate the game, that&#039;s lasted a lifetime, all the more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having grown up watching the Lakers as a kid,<br />
being put to bed with the radio sound of chick hearn in my ears,<br />
remembering Rudy LaRusso, the lakers power forward in the early sixties at a LA sports arena game,<br />
guarding Bob Petit, the great St. Louis Hawks forward,<br />
going up for a rebound<br />
coming down with Bob Petit<br />
Bob&#8217;s arm locked behind his back<br />
the two of them thrown out</p>
<p>mostly remembering how close elgin, jerry, gail, keith  etal. got&#8230;.  </p>
<p>this is really sweet.  </p>
<p>Thanks Kurt for nurturing this wonderful site and thanks to this community for heightening the fun and helping me appreciate the game, that&#8217;s lasted a lifetime, all the more.</p>
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		<title>By: SBCinAZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>SBCinAZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 00:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having been watching the Lakers since I was a little kid in the mid-70s I feel very fortunate to have witnessed so many championships (and close heart-breaking Finals losses).  Not many fans are so lucky (and I&#039;m talking &#039;true&#039; fans, not the front-running type who&#039;s always routing for the top team at the moment).

Thinking all day about how different my reaction has been to each of the &#039;first&#039; championships (&#039;80, &#039;00, &#039;09).  Back in 1980 (when I was only 13) I just felt the pure unadulterated joy that only a young person can achieve (as a young person just starting to get involved in things and interests that were &#039;adult&#039; and would last a lifetime).  I couldn&#039;t believe that *my* team was actually a champion!

In 2000 I was ecstatic and a bit shocked, because it had been so long since the Lakers had last won, it was almost impossible to believe that the Lakers were back on top.

And then there is this title.  I&#039;m joyous, but like Brian above (1:32pm) I&#039;m also just relieved.  Much like the year (&#039;84?) after the Lakers had given the title away to Boston (thanks Worthy for that cross-court pass :) ) this year was so much about redemption.  After starting last year under the dark cloud of Bryant&#039;s trade demands to an unexpected reprieve (Gasol trade) to the devastating loss (game 4) and embarassment (game 6) against the Celts last year, this season was always about June and the Finals.   And the Lakers accomplished that redemption (Joy!), and I can only image what not winning the title this year would have been like (Relief!).


As for Hollinger&#039;s ratings:  Remember, he&#039;s not really trying to figure out who would beat whom and how each team would matchup against the others if they actually could play each other.  What his rankings really are, is a determination of how much each team dominated their competition during one specific year.


Finally, THANKS Kurt, and everyone else, from the regular daily posters to those who only post once in awhile.  It&#039;s been great!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been watching the Lakers since I was a little kid in the mid-70s I feel very fortunate to have witnessed so many championships (and close heart-breaking Finals losses).  Not many fans are so lucky (and I&#8217;m talking &#8216;true&#8217; fans, not the front-running type who&#8217;s always routing for the top team at the moment).</p>
<p>Thinking all day about how different my reaction has been to each of the &#8216;first&#8217; championships (&#8217;80, &#8217;00, &#8217;09).  Back in 1980 (when I was only 13) I just felt the pure unadulterated joy that only a young person can achieve (as a young person just starting to get involved in things and interests that were &#8216;adult&#8217; and would last a lifetime).  I couldn&#8217;t believe that *my* team was actually a champion!</p>
<p>In 2000 I was ecstatic and a bit shocked, because it had been so long since the Lakers had last won, it was almost impossible to believe that the Lakers were back on top.</p>
<p>And then there is this title.  I&#8217;m joyous, but like Brian above (1:32pm) I&#8217;m also just relieved.  Much like the year (&#8217;84?) after the Lakers had given the title away to Boston (thanks Worthy for that cross-court pass <img src='http://www.forumblueandgold.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) this year was so much about redemption.  After starting last year under the dark cloud of Bryant&#8217;s trade demands to an unexpected reprieve (Gasol trade) to the devastating loss (game 4) and embarassment (game 6) against the Celts last year, this season was always about June and the Finals.   And the Lakers accomplished that redemption (Joy!), and I can only image what not winning the title this year would have been like (Relief!).</p>
<p>As for Hollinger&#8217;s ratings:  Remember, he&#8217;s not really trying to figure out who would beat whom and how each team would matchup against the others if they actually could play each other.  What his rankings really are, is a determination of how much each team dominated their competition during one specific year.</p>
<p>Finally, THANKS Kurt, and everyone else, from the regular daily posters to those who only post once in awhile.  It&#8217;s been great!</p>
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		<title>By: Amol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having been away from LA while at college on the east coast for the entire regular season and for the first 2 rounds of the playoffs, this blog definitely helped me keep up with the team. Thanks, FB&amp;G!

I saved up enough to get League Pass Broadband, and I can say that I watched at least 75 games during the season and every single playoff game, often staying up past 1:30am just to watch. As a fan, this championship means so much just because I can remember the entire journey!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been away from LA while at college on the east coast for the entire regular season and for the first 2 rounds of the playoffs, this blog definitely helped me keep up with the team. Thanks, FB&amp;G!</p>
<p>I saved up enough to get League Pass Broadband, and I can say that I watched at least 75 games during the season and every single playoff game, often staying up past 1:30am just to watch. As a fan, this championship means so much just because I can remember the entire journey!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Tung</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Tung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>j.d. (3:05 p.m.): In the criteria, Hollinger lists regular-season performance.  Although the Lakers only lost one playoff game in 2001 (and that one was an OT loss involving some questionable calls at the end of regulation), they did not have a dominating regular season.  They went 56-26, tied for second best in the league, but obviously far short of their 67-15 record the previous year.

One can argue Hollinger&#039;s relative weightings (I didn&#039;t read his article closely enough to see if he gave all his weightings), but once those are set, it&#039;s just a matter of number-crunching.  It seems a bit of a clinical approach to a bar-room argument, but it does at least have the advantage of being defensible against charges of favoritism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>j.d. (3:05 p.m.): In the criteria, Hollinger lists regular-season performance.  Although the Lakers only lost one playoff game in 2001 (and that one was an OT loss involving some questionable calls at the end of regulation), they did not have a dominating regular season.  They went 56-26, tied for second best in the league, but obviously far short of their 67-15 record the previous year.</p>
<p>One can argue Hollinger&#8217;s relative weightings (I didn&#8217;t read his article closely enough to see if he gave all his weightings), but once those are set, it&#8217;s just a matter of number-crunching.  It seems a bit of a clinical approach to a bar-room argument, but it does at least have the advantage of being defensible against charges of favoritism.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New post up.</description>
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		<title>By: Mark Sigal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Sigal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great work on being hands-down the best site for serious love and analysis of our Lakers.  

The Lakers had to endure the taste of blood in their mouths at the hands of the Celts last year; they had to know what it was like to FEEL invincible, only to realize that someone wanted it more than them, was more prepared for the moment than they and respected the immutability of defense and rebounding winning championships more than the Lakers.

Men is the proper analog, as this team grew up both in mind and in doing, facing adversity, naysayers and moments of real doubt, only to stand tall when it mattered most.

I love the line from Derek Fisher last night talking about how he and Kobe kept talking about how unreal it was going from the top down to the bottom, and then finding their way back to the top again.

I am probably most happy for Pau, as he was fairly maligned last year, addressed it like a man then but answered it like a man all season and playoffs long.

So much love for this team...here&#039;s a post that attempts to wrap it up:

Making Plays and Dagger Blows: Lakers Win 15th NBA title (http://bit.ly/yYjqL)

Cheers,

Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great work on being hands-down the best site for serious love and analysis of our Lakers.  </p>
<p>The Lakers had to endure the taste of blood in their mouths at the hands of the Celts last year; they had to know what it was like to FEEL invincible, only to realize that someone wanted it more than them, was more prepared for the moment than they and respected the immutability of defense and rebounding winning championships more than the Lakers.</p>
<p>Men is the proper analog, as this team grew up both in mind and in doing, facing adversity, naysayers and moments of real doubt, only to stand tall when it mattered most.</p>
<p>I love the line from Derek Fisher last night talking about how he and Kobe kept talking about how unreal it was going from the top down to the bottom, and then finding their way back to the top again.</p>
<p>I am probably most happy for Pau, as he was fairly maligned last year, addressed it like a man then but answered it like a man all season and playoffs long.</p>
<p>So much love for this team&#8230;here&#8217;s a post that attempts to wrap it up:</p>
<p>Making Plays and Dagger Blows: Lakers Win 15th NBA title (<a href="http://bit.ly/yYjqL" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/yYjqL</a>)</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>By: emh101</title>
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		<dc:creator>emh101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BCR,

I like how this year&#039;s Lakers team is one spot ahead of last year&#039;s Celtics team. Ha, ha. Nice.</description>
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<p>I like how this year&#8217;s Lakers team is one spot ahead of last year&#8217;s Celtics team. Ha, ha. Nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Archon, the Laker TEAM was better, that was the biggest difference. Their team defense was considerably better, they had a healthy Trevor Ariza and enough of an Andrew Bynum to make a big defensive difference. On offense, they were just smarter, more patient, more experienced. The drop off of guys like Sasha this year was far outweighed by the improved team play, particularly on defense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Archon, the Laker TEAM was better, that was the biggest difference. Their team defense was considerably better, they had a healthy Trevor Ariza and enough of an Andrew Bynum to make a big defensive difference. On offense, they were just smarter, more patient, more experienced. The drop off of guys like Sasha this year was far outweighed by the improved team play, particularly on defense.</p>
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