Comments on: The End of the Bench http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/06/26/the-end-of-the-bench/ A Lakers Blog. Thoughts, reflections, and the odd rant on the Los Angeles Lakers and the NBA (even the Clippers). Thu, 09 Feb 2012 09:18:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Jack http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/06/26/the-end-of-the-bench/comment-page-3/#comment-623204 Jack Thu, 02 Jul 2009 08:13:40 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1677#comment-623204 Just a random note for Zephid on Congolese history: The President Mbenga's father worked for, Mobutu Sese Seko, was a CIA-backed dictator who lorded over the Congo for over 30 years. Laurent Kabila might have been a Marxist, but Mobutu wasn't exactly a charming character himself. Just a random note for Zephid on Congolese history: The President Mbenga’s father worked for, Mobutu Sese Seko, was a CIA-backed dictator who lorded over the Congo for over 30 years. Laurent Kabila might have been a Marxist, but Mobutu wasn’t exactly a charming character himself.

]]> By: Aaron http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/06/26/the-end-of-the-bench/comment-page-3/#comment-622835 Aaron Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:27:03 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1677#comment-622835 Kurt, I said people are starting to think because there was a discussion where two sides were being represented by many different people. Kurt,
I said people are starting to think because there was a discussion where two sides were being represented by many different people.

]]> By: Kurt http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/06/26/the-end-of-the-bench/comment-page-3/#comment-622764 Kurt Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:06:58 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1677#comment-622764 It always makes me chuckle when people say things like "people are starting to think" when they are shown there is some things they agree on, but people don't think when you disagree with them. The level of thought never changes, just the perception. It always makes me chuckle when people say things like “people are starting to think” when they are shown there is some things they agree on, but people don’t think when you disagree with them. The level of thought never changes, just the perception.

]]> By: Aaron http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/06/26/the-end-of-the-bench/comment-page-3/#comment-622762 Aaron Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:53:18 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1677#comment-622762 What about Chad Ford, Marc Jackson, Jeff Van Gundy, Ric Bucher, John Hollinger, Marc Stein, J.A. Adande,Chris Sheridan, Chris Broussard and David Thorpe? All of those NBA Analysts have said in some way or form over the last couple months that Derek Fisher is done. What about Chad Ford, Marc Jackson, Jeff Van Gundy, Ric Bucher, John Hollinger, Marc Stein, J.A. Adande,Chris Sheridan, Chris Broussard and
David Thorpe? All of those NBA Analysts have said in some way or form over the last couple months that Derek Fisher is done.

]]> By: Zephid http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/06/26/the-end-of-the-bench/comment-page-3/#comment-622752 Zephid Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:58:35 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1677#comment-622752 I don't think Jalen Rose is a very good source of NBA knowledge... I don’t think Jalen Rose is a very good source of NBA knowledge…

]]> By: Aaron http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/06/26/the-end-of-the-bench/comment-page-3/#comment-622749 Aaron Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:45:04 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1677#comment-622749 Wow... great debate guys. Glad to see people are starting to think. I just want everyone to have an open mind. Its basketball... people don't need to get so defensive. Im glad most of us all agree that Fisher isn't very good. I just spoke to Jalen Rose at Bar Marmont on Saturday night and he said the same... "Fisher isn't a starting NBA PG anymore, but Farmar definitely isn't and Brown may or may not be. What the Lakers should be doing is trying to bring in one via free agency or making a trade." FYI... he was a really nice guy. Also... yes the Lakers won a championship... but you need to get better if you're an NBA team. Most teams that win don't win the next year. You need to keep improving your talent. All I am saying is that the team should be trying to upgrade at their weakest spot.... the PG position. Mitch at leats publicly said a few days ago that he won't be trying to do that until next off season when Fisher retires. I believe he would like to upgrade the spot now but Buss has his hands tied. Speaking of Jerry Buss... He sold Lakers draft picks! If the 5 million bucks he saved is going to make a difference than he shouldn't be owning the team. If he is walking that fine of a line on his budget then he shouldn't be owning an NBA team. This is the Los Angeles Lakers. The Lakers gross the most amount of any franchise in professional basketball and just won an NBA championship. Wow… great debate guys. Glad to see people are starting to think. I just want everyone to have an open mind. Its basketball… people don’t need to get so defensive. Im glad most of us all agree that Fisher isn’t very good. I just spoke to Jalen Rose at Bar Marmont on Saturday night and he said the same… “Fisher isn’t a starting NBA PG anymore, but Farmar definitely isn’t and Brown may or may not be. What the Lakers should be doing is trying to bring in one via free agency or making a trade.” FYI… he was a really nice guy. Also… yes the Lakers won a championship… but you need to get better if you’re an NBA team. Most teams that win don’t win the next year. You need to keep improving your talent. All I am saying is that the team should be trying to upgrade at their weakest spot…. the PG position. Mitch at leats publicly said a few days ago that he won’t be trying to do that until next off season when Fisher retires. I believe he would like to upgrade the spot now but Buss has his hands tied.

Speaking of Jerry Buss… He sold Lakers draft picks! If the 5 million bucks he saved is going to make a difference than he shouldn’t be owning the team. If he is walking that fine of a line on his budget then he shouldn’t be owning an NBA team. This is the Los Angeles Lakers. The Lakers gross the most amount of any franchise in professional basketball and just won an NBA championship.

]]> By: CGomez http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/06/26/the-end-of-the-bench/comment-page-3/#comment-622718 CGomez Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:00:37 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1677#comment-622718 You asked for some input on your first post. This was an interesting read. Even if I do or do not agree with all the basketball points you made, your style was engaging and the research you did on a few players on the end of the bench was intriguing. I would suggest breaking up those long paragraphs and tightening them up to be about a main point, because it can get fatiguing reading long boxy blocks of text. Otherwise, I would have never guessed you hadn't written about the Lakers before on this blog. You asked for some input on your first post.

This was an interesting read. Even if I do or do not agree with all the basketball points you made, your style was engaging and the research you did on a few players on the end of the bench was intriguing.

I would suggest breaking up those long paragraphs and tightening them up to be about a main point, because it can get fatiguing reading long boxy blocks of text.

Otherwise, I would have never guessed you hadn’t written about the Lakers before on this blog.

]]> By: Kurt http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/06/26/the-end-of-the-bench/comment-page-3/#comment-622714 Kurt Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:33:35 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1677#comment-622714 New post up. New post up.

]]> By: Snoopy2006 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/06/26/the-end-of-the-bench/comment-page-3/#comment-622713 Snoopy2006 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:26:35 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1677#comment-622713 I have a strong gut feeling that Farmar will bounce back big this year. With a 3rd PG for competition, most fans essentially giving up on him, and in some ways, a great deal of pressure being relieved (no great expectations), I think (hope?) that Farmar will have a 09-10 year more along the lines of what we were expecting this year. I'm probably just stupidly optimistic. adrian - I'd be afraid how Robinson would affect the chemistry. I think we have a strong enough locker room to control his personality, but do you take that risk as a championship team? If I play mind-reader, I think I agree with dr. Farmar's openly clashed with Phil, and I think he does feel constrained in his role here. There are fastbreak teams that would love a new PG, so I'm sure he'll get plenty of offers. Like Zephid said, unless he bounces back huge and rips the starting job away from Fish, I can't see him being here long term. He's close with Luke and I'm sure he loves the actual players and chemistry, but if he doesn't get a bigger role I think he'll become frustrated enough to bolt. He's a young player with the talent to thrive in another system, and he knows it. I have a strong gut feeling that Farmar will bounce back big this year. With a 3rd PG for competition, most fans essentially giving up on him, and in some ways, a great deal of pressure being relieved (no great expectations), I think (hope?) that Farmar will have a 09-10 year more along the lines of what we were expecting this year. I’m probably just stupidly optimistic.

adrian – I’d be afraid how Robinson would affect the chemistry. I think we have a strong enough locker room to control his personality, but do you take that risk as a championship team?

If I play mind-reader, I think I agree with dr. Farmar’s openly clashed with Phil, and I think he does feel constrained in his role here. There are fastbreak teams that would love a new PG, so I’m sure he’ll get plenty of offers. Like Zephid said, unless he bounces back huge and rips the starting job away from Fish, I can’t see him being here long term. He’s close with Luke and I’m sure he loves the actual players and chemistry, but if he doesn’t get a bigger role I think he’ll become frustrated enough to bolt. He’s a young player with the talent to thrive in another system, and he knows it.

]]> By: james http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/06/26/the-end-of-the-bench/comment-page-3/#comment-622712 james Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:04:08 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=1677#comment-622712 im a bit miffed by the sudden rumours about kidd, surely we need to look for a point guard of the future, I dont see how kidd would be an improvement over fish in the triangle im a bit miffed by the sudden rumours about kidd, surely we need to look for a point guard of the future, I dont see how kidd would be an improvement over fish in the triangle

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