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	<title>Comments on: How Do You Fit Artest Into A Triangle?</title>
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		<title>By: jeremyLA24</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeremyLA24</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im suprised you are the first person to bring up the comparison to rodman. this team definitely is starting to show some similarities to PJ&#039;s last team when it comes to a balance of talent, chemistry and stardom that the bulls had in the 90&#039;s (of course we have a few rings to go until we can really compare the teams though). i think the TA for ronron swap was bitterly the right move to make. i was a big T.A fan from the get go of 07&#039; with his flashy fastbreaks, tough D, and as a 3pt shooting prospect since before his ankle injury. But! for a guy[ronron] that we were willing to give up LO for, (the primary player we recieved from throwing away shaq) is easily worth losing a player who has not had a FULLY successful season yet in his career. Also, just mentioning to what one of the posts said before; if you are worried about the health of ronron you wouldn&#039;t had been better off with TA who was out on ankle injury for 55% of the 08&#039; season.

BTW: i think this has been the best topic i&#039;ve seen all summer... right next to the future of the PG position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im suprised you are the first person to bring up the comparison to rodman. this team definitely is starting to show some similarities to PJ&#8217;s last team when it comes to a balance of talent, chemistry and stardom that the bulls had in the 90&#8217;s (of course we have a few rings to go until we can really compare the teams though). i think the TA for ronron swap was bitterly the right move to make. i was a big T.A fan from the get go of 07&#8242; with his flashy fastbreaks, tough D, and as a 3pt shooting prospect since before his ankle injury. But! for a guy[ronron] that we were willing to give up LO for, (the primary player we recieved from throwing away shaq) is easily worth losing a player who has not had a FULLY successful season yet in his career. Also, just mentioning to what one of the posts said before; if you are worried about the health of ronron you wouldn&#8217;t had been better off with TA who was out on ankle injury for 55% of the 08&#8242; season.</p>
<p>BTW: i think this has been the best topic i&#8217;ve seen all summer&#8230; right next to the future of the PG position.</p>
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		<title>By: advisor68</title>
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		<dc:creator>advisor68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 02:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The signing of Ron reminds me of the Rodman signing with the Bulls.  I said to myself....this is one helluva team.  I feel the same about these Lakers.  Most of the squad are in their prime (except for Drew) and Fish can still pull thru...I expect us to repeat multiple times.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The signing of Ron reminds me of the Rodman signing with the Bulls.  I said to myself&#8230;.this is one helluva team.  I feel the same about these Lakers.  Most of the squad are in their prime (except for Drew) and Fish can still pull thru&#8230;I expect us to repeat multiple times&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: kaveh</title>
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		<dc:creator>kaveh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 00:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, it&#039;s great how as time goes by everyone jumps on the Ron Ron bandwagon...simply put, Artest is a much better player than Ariza in all aspects of the game, sans the fast-break.  Artest has some of the best passing instincts i&#039;ve seen from a non-pg, can create his own offense, brings toughness and defense better than anyone, and is an all around great addition to this team.

Nothing to worry about folks.  We are talking about 1 of the best perimeter defenders in his generation, and no slouch on the offensive end.  I can&#039;t think of another realistic 3 that would be a better fit for the lakers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, it&#8217;s great how as time goes by everyone jumps on the Ron Ron bandwagon&#8230;simply put, Artest is a much better player than Ariza in all aspects of the game, sans the fast-break.  Artest has some of the best passing instincts i&#8217;ve seen from a non-pg, can create his own offense, brings toughness and defense better than anyone, and is an all around great addition to this team.</p>
<p>Nothing to worry about folks.  We are talking about 1 of the best perimeter defenders in his generation, and no slouch on the offensive end.  I can&#8217;t think of another realistic 3 that would be a better fit for the lakers.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 23:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New post up for weekend discussion.

Craig W. I didn&#039;t alter that comment, but if you email me and let me know what you said I can tweak it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New post up for weekend discussion.</p>
<p>Craig W. I didn&#8217;t alter that comment, but if you email me and let me know what you said I can tweak it.</p>
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		<title>By: VoR</title>
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		<dc:creator>VoR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 22:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Via Truehoop - a kobe video that is pretty well done - the passing highlights were breathtaking

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyKgaeAoa-g</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Via Truehoop &#8211; a kobe video that is pretty well done &#8211; the passing highlights were breathtaking</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyKgaeAoa-g" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyKgaeAoa-g</a></p>
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		<title>By: Craig W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 21:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My comment at 9:03AM was modified from what I wrote, but it&#039;s ok.

Anyway, let the Boston Beans think they are adult Rottweilers, not puppies or arthritic oldies. The proof will come in the combat they have to go through in the East to get to the finals -- same as us. However, since we are younger and more flexible, I like our chances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comment at 9:03AM was modified from what I wrote, but it&#8217;s ok.</p>
<p>Anyway, let the Boston Beans think they are adult Rottweilers, not puppies or arthritic oldies. The proof will come in the combat they have to go through in the East to get to the finals &#8212; same as us. However, since we are younger and more flexible, I like our chances.</p>
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		<title>By: the other Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>the other Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 19:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rottweilers are kinda cute when they&#039;re puppies, though.  i think the take-away from all of this is for our guys to imagine that they&#039;re playing a squad of babies--you know, kinda like the way some like to picture their audience members in underwear to ease their nerves during a speech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rottweilers are kinda cute when they&#8217;re puppies, though.  i think the take-away from all of this is for our guys to imagine that they&#8217;re playing a squad of babies&#8211;you know, kinda like the way some like to picture their audience members in underwear to ease their nerves during a speech.</p>
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		<title>By: wondahbap</title>
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		<dc:creator>wondahbap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 19:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P. Ami,

Now imagine LBJ and PP *not* getting by their man very much.

Sweet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P. Ami,</p>
<p>Now imagine LBJ and PP *not* getting by their man very much.</p>
<p>Sweet.</p>
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		<title>By: P. Ami</title>
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		<dc:creator>P. Ami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 19:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My hope... that the PG situation works itself out like the SF situation did last season. Hopefully, eventually, Brown will make it obvious to Fish that the team is better with Brown getting lots of minutes, maybe starting, and then the team has that athletic player that can play passing lanes.

It is not really forgotten but repeating it won&#039;t hurt, a healthy Bynum makes the Lakers an elite defensive team. It&#039;ll be nice having Artests strength to battle the big SFs but my memory of the Christmas game and the home game against the Cavs was that of PP or LBJ getting by their man and finding Bynum waiting with his length, size and strength to nudge them away from a comfortable shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My hope&#8230; that the PG situation works itself out like the SF situation did last season. Hopefully, eventually, Brown will make it obvious to Fish that the team is better with Brown getting lots of minutes, maybe starting, and then the team has that athletic player that can play passing lanes.</p>
<p>It is not really forgotten but repeating it won&#8217;t hurt, a healthy Bynum makes the Lakers an elite defensive team. It&#8217;ll be nice having Artests strength to battle the big SFs but my memory of the Christmas game and the home game against the Cavs was that of PP or LBJ getting by their man and finding Bynum waiting with his length, size and strength to nudge them away from a comfortable shot.</p>
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		<title>By: busterjonez</title>
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		<dc:creator>busterjonez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I loved Trevor on the team. I thought he had a tremendous impact on the team. You can&#039;t argue with the result from last year (Los Angeles Lakers 2009 NBA Champions, feels good to type that out every time).

But RonRon is only 29! He might not be AS elite a defender as he had been in previous years, but he is still very talented and effective. He is also quite strong and intimidating. I&#039;m not expecting him to be the &quot;enforcer&quot;, but having him on the court provides a certain bravado that Trevor doesn&#039;t exhibit. 

His offensive game is more complete than Trevor&#039;s, and he will enjoy playing as the 4th best offensive player on the floor because no one will be keying on him. 

Finally, the value of the contracts is almost uncomparable. Artest gets the same contract as Ariza, what the what?

Anyone remember Devon George? Ariza had one good year and parlayed it into a large contract. Not that Trevor doesn&#039;t have potential, but RonRon is a proven player in his prime with a undervalued contract. You have to make that deal if you are Mitch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I loved Trevor on the team. I thought he had a tremendous impact on the team. You can&#8217;t argue with the result from last year (Los Angeles Lakers 2009 NBA Champions, feels good to type that out every time).</p>
<p>But RonRon is only 29! He might not be AS elite a defender as he had been in previous years, but he is still very talented and effective. He is also quite strong and intimidating. I&#8217;m not expecting him to be the &#8220;enforcer&#8221;, but having him on the court provides a certain bravado that Trevor doesn&#8217;t exhibit. </p>
<p>His offensive game is more complete than Trevor&#8217;s, and he will enjoy playing as the 4th best offensive player on the floor because no one will be keying on him. </p>
<p>Finally, the value of the contracts is almost uncomparable. Artest gets the same contract as Ariza, what the what?</p>
<p>Anyone remember Devon George? Ariza had one good year and parlayed it into a large contract. Not that Trevor doesn&#8217;t have potential, but RonRon is a proven player in his prime with a undervalued contract. You have to make that deal if you are Mitch.</p>
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