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		<title>By: lakergirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>lakergirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@50

I didnt see the-moving-back-to-LA angle. I will find me a job and pack my stuff back home. See if i can bring us 3 championships in a row :)</description>
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<p>I didnt see the-moving-back-to-LA angle. I will find me a job and pack my stuff back home. See if i can bring us 3 championships in a row <img src='http://www.forumblueandgold.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Wild</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 01:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely a nice post for sure, can&#039;t wait for tonight. Over the past 2 games, no complaints from me whatsoever from this Lakers squad. Everyone, I believe, is playing up to their capabilities. These have been 2 GREAT all-around victories for us. Usually question marks at times, but... Powell, Luke, Sasha, Farmar, Shannon, Mbenga, Fisher, even Ammo are all looking awesome. Albeit against the Griz and a team whose coach just was axed today. But without our two 7 ft studs, it&#039;s huge. I&#039;ve always thought that a big part of the declining bench play was playing time. But now with 2 of our main guys out, the bench&#039;s mins have increased, thus positively affecting their play. Bench play could hinder us today with Bynum coming back. 

But back to the post, other than agreeing with mostly everything, I completely disagree with the statement that this is the best suns team with Nash at the helm. Frye a better fit than Marion at the 4?? Marion is thee perfect fit at 4 for a 7 seconds or less type offense/defense. A healthy Hill over Diaw? Debatable for sure. Anything over Bell, agreed. I believe in the suns hot start, but am going to need a full season&#039;s worth to actually judge whether or not this team is the best one Nash has had. It sure is great though that Kobe actually has players around him now that can fully compete with a strong phoenix team. Bring it on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely a nice post for sure, can&#8217;t wait for tonight. Over the past 2 games, no complaints from me whatsoever from this Lakers squad. Everyone, I believe, is playing up to their capabilities. These have been 2 GREAT all-around victories for us. Usually question marks at times, but&#8230; Powell, Luke, Sasha, Farmar, Shannon, Mbenga, Fisher, even Ammo are all looking awesome. Albeit against the Griz and a team whose coach just was axed today. But without our two 7 ft studs, it&#8217;s huge. I&#8217;ve always thought that a big part of the declining bench play was playing time. But now with 2 of our main guys out, the bench&#8217;s mins have increased, thus positively affecting their play. Bench play could hinder us today with Bynum coming back. </p>
<p>But back to the post, other than agreeing with mostly everything, I completely disagree with the statement that this is the best suns team with Nash at the helm. Frye a better fit than Marion at the 4?? Marion is thee perfect fit at 4 for a 7 seconds or less type offense/defense. A healthy Hill over Diaw? Debatable for sure. Anything over Bell, agreed. I believe in the suns hot start, but am going to need a full season&#8217;s worth to actually judge whether or not this team is the best one Nash has had. It sure is great though that Kobe actually has players around him now that can fully compete with a strong phoenix team. Bring it on.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New game thread post up.</description>
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		<title>By: chibi</title>
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		<dc:creator>chibi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#57--Even before training camp, Frye was favored over Lopez by both Gentry and Kerr.  At best, Lopez is a situational starter.  Based on Frye&#039;s play, I presume he&#039;s won the job outright.  

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2009/09/28/channing-frye-to-start-at-center-for-suns/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#57&#8211;Even before training camp, Frye was favored over Lopez by both Gentry and Kerr.  At best, Lopez is a situational starter.  Based on Frye&#8217;s play, I presume he&#8217;s won the job outright.  </p>
<p><a href="http://nba.fanhouse.com/2009/09/28/channing-frye-to-start-at-center-for-suns/" rel="nofollow">http://nba.fanhouse.com/2009/09/28/channing-frye-to-start-at-center-for-suns/</a></p>
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		<title>By: harold</title>
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		<dc:creator>harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am very sure Kobe has a personal agenda with the &#039;new old&#039; Suns and Nash being mentioned among the early MVP candidates.

And this could be yet another game where we see what Ron&#039;s worth, while Lamar has been quite adequate against the Suns if my selective memory is closer to the whole thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very sure Kobe has a personal agenda with the &#8216;new old&#8217; Suns and Nash being mentioned among the early MVP candidates.</p>
<p>And this could be yet another game where we see what Ron&#8217;s worth, while Lamar has been quite adequate against the Suns if my selective memory is closer to the whole thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Mimsy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mimsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Darius,
Same as every night. :) In my defense, when the Lakers are successful with that formula, they tend to win. That said, it&#039;s easier against some teams than it is against others, and it is not easy at all against the Suns when they play well, the way they want to play.

Tonight&#039;s game is going to be a good one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Darius,<br />
Same as every night. <img src='http://www.forumblueandgold.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  In my defense, when the Lakers are successful with that formula, they tend to win. That said, it&#8217;s easier against some teams than it is against others, and it is not easy at all against the Suns when they play well, the way they want to play.</p>
<p>Tonight&#8217;s game is going to be a good one.</p>
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		<title>By: DirtySanchez</title>
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		<dc:creator>DirtySanchez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last nights Suns/NO game was the first time I have watched them play this year. I wasnt surprised that they smashed a team that looks as if they have mailed it in, not a month into the season. Its hard for me to belive that they will be able to stop Bynum, Artest, Kobe in the post. The beginning of the game will be crucial in taking their confidence on both ends of the court. Pounding the ball inside and making their bigs work will play a big role in the outcome. 

Phoenix has played three legit playoff teams in the east(Boston(won), Miami(won), Orlando(lost)). The rest of the NBA are taking notice of the Suns and their record, tonight is the beginning of the end of teams taking them lightly. Lets see how they fair when they are not sneaking up on anybody. GO LAKERS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last nights Suns/NO game was the first time I have watched them play this year. I wasnt surprised that they smashed a team that looks as if they have mailed it in, not a month into the season. Its hard for me to belive that they will be able to stop Bynum, Artest, Kobe in the post. The beginning of the game will be crucial in taking their confidence on both ends of the court. Pounding the ball inside and making their bigs work will play a big role in the outcome. </p>
<p>Phoenix has played three legit playoff teams in the east(Boston(won), Miami(won), Orlando(lost)). The rest of the NBA are taking notice of the Suns and their record, tonight is the beginning of the end of teams taking them lightly. Lets see how they fair when they are not sneaking up on anybody. GO LAKERS!</p>
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		<title>By: jodial</title>
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		<dc:creator>jodial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never understood the perennial respect that&#039;s been given to Don Nelson throughout the decades. OK, he has 1,000-something regular season wins. Show me the team he&#039;s led to a title, or to the finals. While I&#039;m waiting for you to do that, I can show you a few teams he&#039;s marched straight down the toilet.

The guy once had Manute Bol jacking up 3-pointers for an entire season. I&#039;m grateful I&#039;ve never had to watch him coach MY team. Shaq nailed his approach: &quot;Clown basketball&quot;.

Extra points deducted for his fluke carom shot that took the Lakers down in &#039;69.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never understood the perennial respect that&#8217;s been given to Don Nelson throughout the decades. OK, he has 1,000-something regular season wins. Show me the team he&#8217;s led to a title, or to the finals. While I&#8217;m waiting for you to do that, I can show you a few teams he&#8217;s marched straight down the toilet.</p>
<p>The guy once had Manute Bol jacking up 3-pointers for an entire season. I&#8217;m grateful I&#8217;ve never had to watch him coach MY team. Shaq nailed his approach: &#8220;Clown basketball&#8221;.</p>
<p>Extra points deducted for his fluke carom shot that took the Lakers down in &#8217;69.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well... historically Bynum has had his way with Amare on both ends of the floor.  It was actually against Amare where Andrew had his coming out party on X Mas day a couple years ago.  That game was the turning point for the Suns.  They saw they couldn&#039;t handle the Lakers with Amare trying to play Bynum at Center.  There is a reason Frye is listed as a center... because they know Amare can&#039;t match up with true centers.  Robin Lopez is actually there starting center... so when he returns from injury the Suns will match up a lot better with LA than they will tonight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well&#8230; historically Bynum has had his way with Amare on both ends of the floor.  It was actually against Amare where Andrew had his coming out party on X Mas day a couple years ago.  That game was the turning point for the Suns.  They saw they couldn&#8217;t handle the Lakers with Amare trying to play Bynum at Center.  There is a reason Frye is listed as a center&#8230; because they know Amare can&#8217;t match up with true centers.  Robin Lopez is actually there starting center&#8230; so when he returns from injury the Suns will match up a lot better with LA than they will tonight.</p>
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		<title>By: Snoopy2006</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snoopy2006</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow I was surprised when I read this post. I haven&#039;t seen the Suns yet this year, so I was shocked to hear that this team is better than previous versions of the Suns. But Bill Bridges knows his stuff. So now I&#039;m really looking forward to this game tonight. Like I said before, we&#039;ve never really paid the Suns back because they collapsed before we could play them in the playoffs. I would love to crush them at full-strength. 

We forget them in our hatred for the Celtics, but the Suns dealt this team more pain than any other for a couple of seasons. Hard to hate a team with Nash and Hill, but Sarver and their fans (and 06-07) make it easy.

Chibi also brings up a great point. Can we afford to keep Odom on Amare? My guess is Phil will stick Odom to Frye and let Bynum  handle Amare early, but I have to admit, I can easily see Drew getting burned and losing Amare on the roll. Frye changes things up a bit.

Also, this was asked for on the last thread, part 2 of yesterday&#039;s article (haven&#039;t read it yet so can&#039;t comment): http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2009/11/11/1125576/why-do-advanced-statistics-hate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow I was surprised when I read this post. I haven&#8217;t seen the Suns yet this year, so I was shocked to hear that this team is better than previous versions of the Suns. But Bill Bridges knows his stuff. So now I&#8217;m really looking forward to this game tonight. Like I said before, we&#8217;ve never really paid the Suns back because they collapsed before we could play them in the playoffs. I would love to crush them at full-strength. </p>
<p>We forget them in our hatred for the Celtics, but the Suns dealt this team more pain than any other for a couple of seasons. Hard to hate a team with Nash and Hill, but Sarver and their fans (and 06-07) make it easy.</p>
<p>Chibi also brings up a great point. Can we afford to keep Odom on Amare? My guess is Phil will stick Odom to Frye and let Bynum  handle Amare early, but I have to admit, I can easily see Drew getting burned and losing Amare on the roll. Frye changes things up a bit.</p>
<p>Also, this was asked for on the last thread, part 2 of yesterday&#8217;s article (haven&#8217;t read it yet so can&#8217;t comment): <a href="http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2009/11/11/1125576/why-do-advanced-statistics-hate" rel="nofollow">http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2009/11/11/1125576/why-do-advanced-statistics-hate</a></p>
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