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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Welcome To The Circus&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Brian Tung</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/11/23/welocme-to-the-circus/comment-page-1/#comment-636378</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Tung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looked at the video at JD2K&#039;s site.  Pretty clear that the shot never went through the infinite tunnel: The view from the opposite baseline is seen from the left, and from that vantage point, the ball is never seen to pass behind the backboard.  If you were to shift the vantage point to the opposite backboard (which is how you&#039;d line up the infinite tunnel), the ball would &quot;even more&quot; not go through the infinite tunnel.

OK, now the H.O.R.S.E. is dead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looked at the video at JD2K&#8217;s site.  Pretty clear that the shot never went through the infinite tunnel: The view from the opposite baseline is seen from the left, and from that vantage point, the ball is never seen to pass behind the backboard.  If you were to shift the vantage point to the opposite backboard (which is how you&#8217;d line up the infinite tunnel), the ball would &#8220;even more&#8221; not go through the infinite tunnel.</p>
<p>OK, now the H.O.R.S.E. is dead.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New post up.</description>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>who cares if it was legal. it was amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who cares if it was legal. it was amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding the talk about the lakers broadcasters, I really like Stu and Joel is okay. Much better than Sutherland. But Joel is a bit annoying sometimes but he&#039;s much better than most teams broadcasters. The clippers broadcasters are horrible. I refuse to watch a clipper game because of those two (and not just because of their recent comments). But other teams broadcasters are extremely biased in how then commentate the game. The Joel is a little biased on how he perceives the game, but not Stu. Thats the best part about Stu he will always convey the game in most neutral way as he possibly can. Listening to the cavs broadcasters is like listening to a regular fan.

The tnt and epsn broadcasters are all pretty bad with the exception of Hubie and Doug. Although Hubie Brown can sometimes over analyze things. It&#039;s kind of funny sometimes. He&#039;ll will try to analyze a player tying his shoe. But Mike Breen and Reggie are by far the worst. Mike Breen will make an incorrect statement and then defend it after the other broadcasters correct him. And i&#039;ve dislike reggie since he said lamar odom is 7&#039;1&quot; lol. 

My point is that we, lakers fans, are extremely lucky to have Stu commentating the laker games. Joel is okay. 

Oh and Van Gundy is pure comedy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the talk about the lakers broadcasters, I really like Stu and Joel is okay. Much better than Sutherland. But Joel is a bit annoying sometimes but he&#8217;s much better than most teams broadcasters. The clippers broadcasters are horrible. I refuse to watch a clipper game because of those two (and not just because of their recent comments). But other teams broadcasters are extremely biased in how then commentate the game. The Joel is a little biased on how he perceives the game, but not Stu. Thats the best part about Stu he will always convey the game in most neutral way as he possibly can. Listening to the cavs broadcasters is like listening to a regular fan.</p>
<p>The tnt and epsn broadcasters are all pretty bad with the exception of Hubie and Doug. Although Hubie Brown can sometimes over analyze things. It&#8217;s kind of funny sometimes. He&#8217;ll will try to analyze a player tying his shoe. But Mike Breen and Reggie are by far the worst. Mike Breen will make an incorrect statement and then defend it after the other broadcasters correct him. And i&#8217;ve dislike reggie since he said lamar odom is 7&#8217;1&#8243; lol. </p>
<p>My point is that we, lakers fans, are extremely lucky to have Stu commentating the laker games. Joel is okay. </p>
<p>Oh and Van Gundy is pure comedy.</p>
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		<title>By: lakerade</title>
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		<dc:creator>lakerade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was at last night&#039;s game too (really only to get that Chick Hearn microphone jersey), but I concur with DB, that was one of the best regular season blowout wins I&#039;ve seen in some time.

The ovation for Marge (lasting that much longer because Bavetta wouldn&#039;t take the ball from her, just letting her stand there and soak in the appreciation from the crowd), Kobe&#039;s game stopping highlights (I was waiting for someone to toss the ball into the crowd And1 style and proclaim the game over after his 1st quarter spurt ending with that lefty buzzer-beater), ShanWOW&#039;s one-upping of Kobe (in terms of getting the crowd off their feet), and then the crossover appeal (the Black Eyed Peas singing during a timeout with A-Rod and B-Real in tow, will.i.am shouting out &quot;Kobe, MVP&quot; while Fergie flashed the LA sign with her hands), all of it was SO Los Angeles, SO Showtime, and that&#039;s not even mentioning that the Lakers actually played a game and won it, tacos included of course.

As for actual game analysis, I agree that Artest&#039;s tenacity is a sight to see in person, and while Phil says he liked the team&#039;s defensive effort, it also seemed like OKC was missing a lot of their early uncontested shots (lotsa 3-pointers), which put them in a hole.  The defense did do a commendable job on Durant and Westbrook, leaving little option for the Thunder to initiate any offense.  But the overall experience I got last night is what I love about the Lakers - a manifestatoin of supremacy in talent, ability, and legacy to the point where even when Jay-Z is shown on the jumbotron, it only draws about the 6th or 7th loudest ovation of the night, again in a blowout laugher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at last night&#8217;s game too (really only to get that Chick Hearn microphone jersey), but I concur with DB, that was one of the best regular season blowout wins I&#8217;ve seen in some time.</p>
<p>The ovation for Marge (lasting that much longer because Bavetta wouldn&#8217;t take the ball from her, just letting her stand there and soak in the appreciation from the crowd), Kobe&#8217;s game stopping highlights (I was waiting for someone to toss the ball into the crowd And1 style and proclaim the game over after his 1st quarter spurt ending with that lefty buzzer-beater), ShanWOW&#8217;s one-upping of Kobe (in terms of getting the crowd off their feet), and then the crossover appeal (the Black Eyed Peas singing during a timeout with A-Rod and B-Real in tow, will.i.am shouting out &#8220;Kobe, MVP&#8221; while Fergie flashed the LA sign with her hands), all of it was SO Los Angeles, SO Showtime, and that&#8217;s not even mentioning that the Lakers actually played a game and won it, tacos included of course.</p>
<p>As for actual game analysis, I agree that Artest&#8217;s tenacity is a sight to see in person, and while Phil says he liked the team&#8217;s defensive effort, it also seemed like OKC was missing a lot of their early uncontested shots (lotsa 3-pointers), which put them in a hole.  The defense did do a commendable job on Durant and Westbrook, leaving little option for the Thunder to initiate any offense.  But the overall experience I got last night is what I love about the Lakers &#8211; a manifestatoin of supremacy in talent, ability, and legacy to the point where even when Jay-Z is shown on the jumbotron, it only draws about the 6th or 7th loudest ovation of the night, again in a blowout laugher.</p>
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		<title>By: Kareem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kareem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another interpretation of the &#039;circus shot&#039;: Even if the ball passed through the infinite backboard, Kobe was fouled, technically, and should have shot free throws regardless. I wonder what would happen if they called a foul from a shot that passed through the infinite backboard and made it in. And 1 or two shots?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another interpretation of the &#8216;circus shot&#8217;: Even if the ball passed through the infinite backboard, Kobe was fouled, technically, and should have shot free throws regardless. I wonder what would happen if they called a foul from a shot that passed through the infinite backboard and made it in. And 1 or two shots?</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best place (I find) for highlights from the game is JD2k&#039;s work at www.lakersmedia.com, he typically has them up within 2-3 hours after the game finishes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best place (I find) for highlights from the game is JD2k&#8217;s work at <a href="http://www.lakersmedia.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.lakersmedia.com</a>, he typically has them up within 2-3 hours after the game finishes.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Tung</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Tung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@alex v (1:26 p.m.): I&#039;m guessing it&#039;s not &quot;short corner three&quot; as in a three from the short corner, but a corner three, which is therefore short.  In other words, I think you just need a reparse.  (Alternatively, if you think the emphasis demands the original parsing, the opposite baseline hosts the long corners.)

Honestly, if that were the most aggravating part of Lakers broadcasting, I think we&#039;d be doing pretty darned well.  More concerning to me is that the TV broadcasts seem considerably more homerific than they used to be.  Not saying that&#039;s necessarily Paul and Stu&#039;s fault, since they may very well be asked to do so.  But it&#039;s sort of annoying.  (And yes, I know that even so they are still less homerific than many teams around the league.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@alex v (1:26 p.m.): I&#8217;m guessing it&#8217;s not &#8220;short corner three&#8221; as in a three from the short corner, but a corner three, which is therefore short.  In other words, I think you just need a reparse.  (Alternatively, if you think the emphasis demands the original parsing, the opposite baseline hosts the long corners.)</p>
<p>Honestly, if that were the most aggravating part of Lakers broadcasting, I think we&#8217;d be doing pretty darned well.  More concerning to me is that the TV broadcasts seem considerably more homerific than they used to be.  Not saying that&#8217;s necessarily Paul and Stu&#8217;s fault, since they may very well be asked to do so.  But it&#8217;s sort of annoying.  (And yes, I know that even so they are still less homerific than many teams around the league.)</p>
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		<title>By: The Dude Abides</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dude Abides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>19. motoman, Lamar&#039;s value to the team can&#039;t always be quantified by his stat line. He is an excellent team defender, an amazing ballhandler for his size, a great defensive rebounder, and he helps initiate the offense (probably getting a fair amount of hockey assists). That last point shouldn&#039;t be overlooked, as it&#039;s great to have a 6-10 1/2 guy who can easily see over smaller players while passing into the post to start the offense. Don&#039;t forget that last season he led the team in (+-).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>19. motoman, Lamar&#8217;s value to the team can&#8217;t always be quantified by his stat line. He is an excellent team defender, an amazing ballhandler for his size, a great defensive rebounder, and he helps initiate the offense (probably getting a fair amount of hockey assists). That last point shouldn&#8217;t be overlooked, as it&#8217;s great to have a 6-10 1/2 guy who can easily see over smaller players while passing into the post to start the offense. Don&#8217;t forget that last season he led the team in (+-).</p>
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		<title>By: gxs</title>
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		<dc:creator>gxs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a couple things that I wanted to comment on:

For those of you who don&#039;t live in LA, youtube user  CaCHooKaReborn posts good Laker hilites of every game. Last nights game was particularly good as Kobe had a bunch of good shots. He posts the first half, and the second half, and in my opinion is pretty thorough.

Also, to clarify on something I commented earlier, I hope at least some of you see what I meant when I said I hadn&#039;t seen the Lakers win a game convincingly. Now that I&#039;ve seen them win a few, (and man what gems the last two games), I wouldn&#039;t panick even if they went on a 5 game losing streak.

Enjoy the youtube hilites! There is no player funner to watch right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a couple things that I wanted to comment on:</p>
<p>For those of you who don&#8217;t live in LA, youtube user  CaCHooKaReborn posts good Laker hilites of every game. Last nights game was particularly good as Kobe had a bunch of good shots. He posts the first half, and the second half, and in my opinion is pretty thorough.</p>
<p>Also, to clarify on something I commented earlier, I hope at least some of you see what I meant when I said I hadn&#8217;t seen the Lakers win a game convincingly. Now that I&#8217;ve seen them win a few, (and man what gems the last two games), I wouldn&#8217;t panick even if they went on a 5 game losing streak.</p>
<p>Enjoy the youtube hilites! There is no player funner to watch right now.</p>
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