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	<title>Comments on: Preview and Chat: LAL vs GSW</title>
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		<title>By: moustapha</title>
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		<dc:creator>moustapha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indiana Pacers vs Washington Wizards http://www.lyrictr.com/Nba_tv.html  and lakers vs jazz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indiana Pacers vs Washington Wizards <a href="http://www.lyrictr.com/Nba_tv.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lyrictr.com/Nba_tv.html</a>  and lakers vs jazz</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New post up.

Kareem, I think we all agree that so far Artest has been all that we could have wanted, but remember Ariza played his best in the playoffs and Finals, so I think it is too early to judge the trade in total. Also, Ariza  has become Artest in Houston: a secondary player asked to be the primary acorer and create the offense who becomes inconsistent and inefficient.</description>
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<p>Kareem, I think we all agree that so far Artest has been all that we could have wanted, but remember Ariza played his best in the playoffs and Finals, so I think it is too early to judge the trade in total. Also, Ariza  has become Artest in Houston: a secondary player asked to be the primary acorer and create the offense who becomes inconsistent and inefficient.</p>
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		<title>By: Samy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lawrence Franks been fired... hours before our game

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4697789</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lawrence Franks been fired&#8230; hours before our game</p>
<p><a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4697789" rel="nofollow">http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4697789</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kareem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kareem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It really kills me that every mainstream writer, including Adande, keeps repteating the trope, &quot;the Ariza and Artest trade was a wash.&quot; It is absolutely, undeniably no contest so far. Ariza couldn&#039;t play the minutes Artest is and fill up the stat sheet in the way Artest does. Artest is grabbing rebounds that Ariza didn&#039;t and is passing when Ariza couldn&#039;t. His play is such a perfect fit for the team right now, and his ascent this year really highlights the skills that he possesses. I know we say that of every player that Phil coaches, but of anyone whose benefited by moving to a Phil Jackson coached team, Artest might be the greatest success story, granted he keeps this up for the rest of the season. 

Bill, do you think the difference between Kobe and Artest is artificial or real? I know that Kobe is used as a panacea for failings of our bench unit. When leads are blowing, he&#039;s inserted into the game (when Artest might not be) and that might reflect on his +/-.

Also, do you think that Artest&#039;s stats are coming at the expense of Lamar? Lamar&#039;s numbers seem a little down, and he was a monster on the +/- last year. Thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It really kills me that every mainstream writer, including Adande, keeps repteating the trope, &#8220;the Ariza and Artest trade was a wash.&#8221; It is absolutely, undeniably no contest so far. Ariza couldn&#8217;t play the minutes Artest is and fill up the stat sheet in the way Artest does. Artest is grabbing rebounds that Ariza didn&#8217;t and is passing when Ariza couldn&#8217;t. His play is such a perfect fit for the team right now, and his ascent this year really highlights the skills that he possesses. I know we say that of every player that Phil coaches, but of anyone whose benefited by moving to a Phil Jackson coached team, Artest might be the greatest success story, granted he keeps this up for the rest of the season. </p>
<p>Bill, do you think the difference between Kobe and Artest is artificial or real? I know that Kobe is used as a panacea for failings of our bench unit. When leads are blowing, he&#8217;s inserted into the game (when Artest might not be) and that might reflect on his +/-.</p>
<p>Also, do you think that Artest&#8217;s stats are coming at the expense of Lamar? Lamar&#8217;s numbers seem a little down, and he was a monster on the +/- last year. Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Bridges</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Bridges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>10:35  in the 3rd, 67-52 
Maggette layup, 67-54
Kobe&#039;s gets tapped on a baseline hook
Radmanovic hits a 3, 67-57
Gasol hits a lefty baby hook, 69 -57
Monta Ellis&#039;s mid range jumper rims out
Kobe&#039;s turn around J, in and out.
Turiaf hits 1 of 2 FR, 69 -58
9:05 in the third
Kobe called for charge
Bynum blocks Vladi&#039;s runner
Fisher can&#039;t finish on the break
Lob to Ellis. He comes down dribbles behind his back for the lay up. 
8:29 in the third, 69 - 60 

The Warrior had come back from 17 down to single digits and momentum was starting to swing. The crowd is getting louder. Next came, what I think the play of the game.

Artest caught the ball on the right wing, gave Maggette a quick pump to freeze and dribbled down the lane for a left and-one. He converts the and-one and the Lakers are back up by 12. They on a 6-2 tun to extend the lead to 16. Smart calls time. Game over.
6:35 in the third, 78-62

Love Artest&#039;s game in the Month of November. He is making the right decisions. Most of the time, he moves the ball and has turned out to be an excellent post-entry passer. But as in the play described, has made some timely aggressive moves. Shooting well now, good handles, excellent passer, aggressive when needed. All-world defense. Need to work on his free throws.

Factoid: Ron Artest is 3rd in the NBA in +- at +160 (4th is Kobe at +155). #1 Nowitzky (+179) has played 2 more game. #2, Horford (+164) has played 1 more game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>10:35  in the 3rd, 67-52<br />
Maggette layup, 67-54<br />
Kobe&#8217;s gets tapped on a baseline hook<br />
Radmanovic hits a 3, 67-57<br />
Gasol hits a lefty baby hook, 69 -57<br />
Monta Ellis&#8217;s mid range jumper rims out<br />
Kobe&#8217;s turn around J, in and out.<br />
Turiaf hits 1 of 2 FR, 69 -58<br />
9:05 in the third<br />
Kobe called for charge<br />
Bynum blocks Vladi&#8217;s runner<br />
Fisher can&#8217;t finish on the break<br />
Lob to Ellis. He comes down dribbles behind his back for the lay up.<br />
8:29 in the third, 69 &#8211; 60 </p>
<p>The Warrior had come back from 17 down to single digits and momentum was starting to swing. The crowd is getting louder. Next came, what I think the play of the game.</p>
<p>Artest caught the ball on the right wing, gave Maggette a quick pump to freeze and dribbled down the lane for a left and-one. He converts the and-one and the Lakers are back up by 12. They on a 6-2 tun to extend the lead to 16. Smart calls time. Game over.<br />
6:35 in the third, 78-62</p>
<p>Love Artest&#8217;s game in the Month of November. He is making the right decisions. Most of the time, he moves the ball and has turned out to be an excellent post-entry passer. But as in the play described, has made some timely aggressive moves. Shooting well now, good handles, excellent passer, aggressive when needed. All-world defense. Need to work on his free throws.</p>
<p>Factoid: Ron Artest is 3rd in the NBA in +- at +160 (4th is Kobe at +155). #1 Nowitzky (+179) has played 2 more game. #2, Horford (+164) has played 1 more game.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think its a coincidence that after Ron-Ron gets naked on the tonight show he has had back to back great games.  I think he needed to feel comfortable being himself before he could play like himself.  It is a joke how good the Lakers are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think its a coincidence that after Ron-Ron gets naked on the tonight show he has had back to back great games.  I think he needed to feel comfortable being himself before he could play like himself.  It is a joke how good the Lakers are.</p>
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		<title>By: lker4life</title>
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		<dc:creator>lker4life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello to all laker fans god welling we will get another ring this year kobe and the boys killed this evening tmorw they better come out to play so nice to post my coment on this web site</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello to all laker fans god welling we will get another ring this year kobe and the boys killed this evening tmorw they better come out to play so nice to post my coment on this web site</p>
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		<title>By: nomuskles</title>
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		<dc:creator>nomuskles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 07:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Granted some of the stats are from garbage time but a few stick out...

Turnovers: LAL 8, GSW 14. Not bad for both teams but that&#039;s still 6 lost possessions for the Warriors compared to the Lakers.

Blocks: Lakers blocked 8 shots tonight. Ego-ectomy?

Points in the paint: LAL 62, GSW 38.

Three pointers: LAL 11-22, GSW 4-17.

I think those stats encompass the domination we saw tonight. Lakers defended the paint well, the warriors didn&#039;t hit the three-ball very well (we did kind of unusually) and the lakers bigs were too big and too good for theirs when the lakers had the ball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Granted some of the stats are from garbage time but a few stick out&#8230;</p>
<p>Turnovers: LAL 8, GSW 14. Not bad for both teams but that&#8217;s still 6 lost possessions for the Warriors compared to the Lakers.</p>
<p>Blocks: Lakers blocked 8 shots tonight. Ego-ectomy?</p>
<p>Points in the paint: LAL 62, GSW 38.</p>
<p>Three pointers: LAL 11-22, GSW 4-17.</p>
<p>I think those stats encompass the domination we saw tonight. Lakers defended the paint well, the warriors didn&#8217;t hit the three-ball very well (we did kind of unusually) and the lakers bigs were too big and too good for theirs when the lakers had the ball.</p>
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		<title>By: Simonoid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simonoid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 07:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude (50), I know, but still - seeing his FG% &amp; 3PT% steadily decrease over the last 3 seasons (including this one) is still a little unnerving - just good to see a couple of his hoists go in. 

He&#039;s my favourite player on the team. I have his jersey, so I&#039;ve been crossing my fingers ever since the trade talk started in the middle of last season after we got Ammo.

Jeremy (57), haha, yeah, I was surprised too. He usually converts those though. Didn&#039;t think he got enough elevation on that one, and his hands going Kwame on him  there didn&#039;t help either.

gxs (61) - seeing #35. That was the best one, IMHO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude (50), I know, but still &#8211; seeing his FG% &amp; 3PT% steadily decrease over the last 3 seasons (including this one) is still a little unnerving &#8211; just good to see a couple of his hoists go in. </p>
<p>He&#8217;s my favourite player on the team. I have his jersey, so I&#8217;ve been crossing my fingers ever since the trade talk started in the middle of last season after we got Ammo.</p>
<p>Jeremy (57), haha, yeah, I was surprised too. He usually converts those though. Didn&#8217;t think he got enough elevation on that one, and his hands going Kwame on him  there didn&#8217;t help either.</p>
<p>gxs (61) &#8211; seeing #35. That was the best one, IMHO.</p>
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		<title>By: chibi</title>
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		<dc:creator>chibi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only 8 turnovers by the team, and just 1 by the the 2nd unit, in a high possession game.  That will most definitely get the job done.</description>
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