Comments on: Bridge Talk http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/12/14/bridge-talk/ A Lakers Blog. Thoughts, reflections, and the odd rant on the Los Angeles Lakers and the NBA (even the Clippers). Thu, 09 Feb 2012 05:31:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Travis http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/12/14/bridge-talk/comment-page-1/#comment-640359 Travis Tue, 15 Dec 2009 22:33:41 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=2286#comment-640359 45) Igor: Lakers fans are just as irrational. See comment #33. 45) Igor: Lakers fans are just as irrational. See comment #33.

]]> By: robinred http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/12/14/bridge-talk/comment-page-1/#comment-640351 robinred Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:43:35 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=2286#comment-640351 You guys are really overdoing the simmons bashing in this instance. He made those comments literally a sentence after saying “short of an injury to pau or kobe, the lakers are unbeatable. They look that good.” ______________________ If he said this, it is just part of a long set-up so he can attack Kobe's character and human decency if the Lakers do not repeat. This is how BS played the 2008 Finals and he followed up on the meme in TBoB. Simmons is a good writer, he loves the NBA, and I recommend TBoB (if you can get through the endless pop-culture analogies and creepy aging fratboy sexism) but he has proven, again and again, that he is largely irrational when the topic is Kobe Bryant. You guys are really overdoing the simmons bashing in this instance. He made those comments literally a sentence after saying “short of an injury to pau or kobe, the lakers are unbeatable. They look that good.”

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If he said this, it is just part of a long set-up so he can attack Kobe’s character and human decency if the Lakers do not repeat. This is how BS played the 2008 Finals and he followed up on the meme in TBoB. Simmons is a good writer, he loves the NBA, and I recommend TBoB (if you can get through the endless pop-culture analogies and creepy aging fratboy sexism) but he has proven, again and again, that he is largely irrational when the topic is Kobe Bryant.

]]> By: Scott B http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/12/14/bridge-talk/comment-page-1/#comment-640347 Scott B Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:30:31 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=2286#comment-640347 Funny post Mr. Bridges. I always enjoy a good Kim “Dear Leader” Jong-il reference in my Lakers surfing! Funny post Mr. Bridges. I always enjoy a good Kim “Dear Leader” Jong-il reference in my Lakers surfing!

]]> By: Shaky http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/12/14/bridge-talk/comment-page-1/#comment-640346 Shaky Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:29:15 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=2286#comment-640346 You guys are really overdoing the simmons bashing in this instance. He made those comments literally a sentence after saying "short of an injury to pau or kobe, the lakers are unbeatable. They look that good." So his suggestion of an injury was pretty obviously sarcastic (not to mention his immediate audience was Cousin Sal). Those guys can run the sarcasm pretty thick, but if there is a faux pas understood in all of sport it is precisely that you do not root for injuries. So everyone just chill out on thinking he actually wants anyone to get hurt. Or to paraphrase a man much greater than myself: put the candy down and let the little boy go. You guys are really overdoing the simmons bashing in this instance. He made those comments literally a sentence after saying “short of an injury to pau or kobe, the lakers are unbeatable. They look that good.” So his suggestion of an injury was pretty obviously sarcastic (not to mention his immediate audience was Cousin Sal).
Those guys can run the sarcasm pretty thick, but if there is a faux pas understood in all of sport it is precisely that you do not root for injuries.

So everyone just chill out on thinking he actually wants anyone to get hurt. Or to paraphrase a man much greater than myself: put the candy down and let the little boy go.

]]> By: Kurt http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/12/14/bridge-talk/comment-page-1/#comment-640344 Kurt Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:18:28 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=2286#comment-640344 Bulls preview up. Bulls preview up.

]]> By: sT http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/12/14/bridge-talk/comment-page-1/#comment-640343 sT Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:15:21 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=2286#comment-640343 Kobe's finger is a real big deal, it is broken with tendons involved, and he has to wear a splint to play basketball now days on the index finger of his SHOOTING hand. Of couse I said doom and gloom with the hamstring and all was fine there, but this fracture is a little different, huh? I just hope the other four players can take up the slack (shooting wise) and we do not drop anymore games this road trip. Kobe’s finger is a real big deal, it is broken with tendons involved, and he has to wear a splint to play basketball now days on the index finger of his SHOOTING hand. Of couse I said doom and gloom with the hamstring and all was fine there, but this fracture is a little different, huh? I just hope the other four players can take up the slack (shooting wise) and we do not drop anymore games this road trip.

]]> By: VoR http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/12/14/bridge-talk/comment-page-1/#comment-640342 VoR Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:01:38 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=2286#comment-640342 Well Zephid beat me to it and since he knows what he's talking about I feel pretty smart. :-) But I agree - playing with starters can often make you look (or actually play) better. No, I am not advocating starting Sasha, but I am not sure that he is not a better SG than Brown. In the last five games the lines have looked like this (and yes I am aware of the HUGE disparity in minutes, but what else do we have to go on, and I'm bored.) Brown shooting 1/5, 4/10, 2/6, 3/9, 2/6 +/- -4, +3, -2, -11, -4 minutes 15, 19, 18, 17, 24 Vujacic shooting 0/0, 0/1, 1/1. 3/3, 0/0 +/- +6 0 +9 +4 +6 minutes 0 4 10 9 0 Without seeing Sasha play the same minutes as Brown and shoot a similar number of shots it is an unfair comparison but I think we can draw a couple of pretty obvious conclusions. 1. Sasha may have been horrible at the start of the season, but the last five games he has helped rather than hurt the team (especially in the two games he got meaningful minutes). 2. Shannon is not exactly tearing it up in shooting percentage or making the team a lot better. 3. If we could bottle Sasha's +6 in zero minutes - we'd be unstoppable. :-) Well Zephid beat me to it and since he knows what he’s talking about I feel pretty smart. :-) But I agree – playing with starters can often make you look (or actually play) better.

No, I am not advocating starting Sasha, but I am not sure that he is not a better SG than Brown.

In the last five games the lines have looked like this (and yes I am aware of the HUGE disparity in minutes, but what else do we have to go on, and I’m bored.)

Brown
shooting 1/5, 4/10, 2/6, 3/9, 2/6
+/- -4, +3, -2, -11, -4
minutes 15, 19, 18, 17, 24

Vujacic
shooting 0/0, 0/1, 1/1. 3/3, 0/0
+/- +6 0 +9 +4 +6
minutes 0 4 10 9 0

Without seeing Sasha play the same minutes as Brown and shoot a similar number of shots it is an unfair comparison but I think we can draw a couple of pretty obvious conclusions.

1. Sasha may have been horrible at the start of the season, but the last five games he has helped rather than hurt the team (especially in the two games he got meaningful minutes).

2. Shannon is not exactly tearing it up in shooting percentage or making the team a lot better.

3. If we could bottle Sasha’s +6 in zero minutes – we’d be unstoppable. :-)

]]> By: Igor Avidon http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/12/14/bridge-talk/comment-page-1/#comment-640340 Igor Avidon Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:46:14 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=2286#comment-640340 Rivalries are not limited to the players, fans are rivals too. Often times I wish more Lakers fans were irrational and immovable in their displays of affection for their team like the crazy Boston fans. I don't wish injuries upon players, but if they do happen to stars of rival teams I can't help but smile. I feel bad for the individual and the fact that they have to experience pain and discomfort. But I love being able to rub it into the other team's fanbase. Especially if it's a player who crawls like a dog on parquet floors in-game. Rivalries are not limited to the players, fans are rivals too. Often times I wish more Lakers fans were irrational and immovable in their displays of affection for their team like the crazy Boston fans. I don’t wish injuries upon players, but if they do happen to stars of rival teams I can’t help but smile. I feel bad for the individual and the fact that they have to experience pain and discomfort. But I love being able to rub it into the other team’s fanbase. Especially if it’s a player who crawls like a dog on parquet floors in-game.

]]> By: Aaron http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/12/14/bridge-talk/comment-page-1/#comment-640339 Aaron Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:44:04 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=2286#comment-640339 35, I have never said Sasha should be getting more minutes. I have just said people should get off his back because when he has played he has shot well. I would like Brown to be used at the teams starting PG and not played out of position at back up SG... that would also open up minutes for Sasha at back up SG. Farmar would keep his job as the change of pace back up PG and Fisher would fit comfortably next to Brian Shaw as a player/coach on the bench. 35,
I have never said Sasha should be getting more minutes. I have just said people should get off his back because when he has played he has shot well. I would like Brown to be used at the teams starting PG and not played out of position at back up SG… that would also open up minutes for Sasha at back up SG. Farmar would keep his job as the change of pace back up PG and Fisher would fit comfortably next to Brian Shaw as a player/coach on the bench.

]]> By: robinred http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2009/12/14/bridge-talk/comment-page-1/#comment-640337 robinred Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:42:21 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=2286#comment-640337 Also, does anyone know at what point in the Podcast Simmons talks about Kobe? I would like to hear exactly what he said but do not want to listen to Simmons for 52:20 to do so. Also, does anyone know at what point in the Podcast Simmons talks about Kobe? I would like to hear exactly what he said but do not want to listen to Simmons for 52:20 to do so.

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