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		<title>By: Sophomore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sophomore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 04:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Rudy, just off your list, right now I’d take Gasol over Pierce, Dirk, Durant and Roy easy, and I’d debate another few. He is the most skilled, polished big in the game, in my opinion.&quot;

Pau is a very nice player, but if you care about *this year*, not the future, there is no way on earth you can take Pau over Nowitzki.  Dirk&#039;s a better and more versatile scorer, as good at other phases of the game, and very tough mentally.

Pierce and Durant are 3s, not 4s, and their games are completely different than Pau&#039;s.  Maybe compare him to Bogut or Kamen?  

Maybe the most interesting comparison, tho, is Garnett.  No obvious edge, to me, just a different game. Pau is better with his back to the basket and he&#039;s probably a better rebounder right now, too.  But there&#039;s nobody better than Garnett at helping to defend the pick and roll, and he absolutely directs the D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Rudy, just off your list, right now I’d take Gasol over Pierce, Dirk, Durant and Roy easy, and I’d debate another few. He is the most skilled, polished big in the game, in my opinion.&#8221;</p>
<p>Pau is a very nice player, but if you care about *this year*, not the future, there is no way on earth you can take Pau over Nowitzki.  Dirk&#8217;s a better and more versatile scorer, as good at other phases of the game, and very tough mentally.</p>
<p>Pierce and Durant are 3s, not 4s, and their games are completely different than Pau&#8217;s.  Maybe compare him to Bogut or Kamen?  </p>
<p>Maybe the most interesting comparison, tho, is Garnett.  No obvious edge, to me, just a different game. Pau is better with his back to the basket and he&#8217;s probably a better rebounder right now, too.  But there&#8217;s nobody better than Garnett at helping to defend the pick and roll, and he absolutely directs the D.</p>
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		<title>By: Sophomore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sophomore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 04:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;They were never quite the same team after that (although clearly injuries added to this).&quot;

Uh. That&#039;s right.  Injuries &quot;added&quot; to the Celtics&#039; problems.  And if the Lakers lose Kobe to injury this year, that&#039;ll &quot;add&quot; to their not being a title team.  

Here&#039;s hoping both teams are at full strength at the end of this year.  No excuses, no questions, no doubts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They were never quite the same team after that (although clearly injuries added to this).&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh. That&#8217;s right.  Injuries &#8220;added&#8221; to the Celtics&#8217; problems.  And if the Lakers lose Kobe to injury this year, that&#8217;ll &#8220;add&#8221; to their not being a title team.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s hoping both teams are at full strength at the end of this year.  No excuses, no questions, no doubts.</p>
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		<title>By: dxmanners</title>
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		<dc:creator>dxmanners</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 02:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pig, if that was true, they would go to him as a second option.  I&#039;m not a hater, just thought he would be more of a force by now, say 15-10 most nights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pig, if that was true, they would go to him as a second option.  I&#8217;m not a hater, just thought he would be more of a force by now, say 15-10 most nights.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I love the Lakers win or lose,But the people in the stands aren&#039;t loud and when someone from the other team goes to the free throw line they just boo now how is that going to make them miss there shot!They should be waving there arms and waving anything so they miss but all they do is boo,They are not loud even when we are ahead they are so quit it makes me mad I fell like jumping into the TV and saying get louder!!!When the Lakers go to other teames home town they are soooo loud stamping there feet and cherring there team? If we did that then I think that we might of won the cavs.also I agree they need to get rid of Bynum.They should of stated with Ariza</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I love the Lakers win or lose,But the people in the stands aren&#8217;t loud and when someone from the other team goes to the free throw line they just boo now how is that going to make them miss there shot!They should be waving there arms and waving anything so they miss but all they do is boo,They are not loud even when we are ahead they are so quit it makes me mad I fell like jumping into the TV and saying get louder!!!When the Lakers go to other teames home town they are soooo loud stamping there feet and cherring there team? If we did that then I think that we might of won the cavs.also I agree they need to get rid of Bynum.They should of stated with Ariza</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 05:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>take bynum out of there...he&#039;s so disinterested in the game when he&#039;s not getting the ball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>take bynum out of there&#8230;he&#8217;s so disinterested in the game when he&#8217;s not getting the ball.</p>
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		<title>By: rjay</title>
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		<dc:creator>rjay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 01:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was ugly. The Lakers have shown zip against better teams with exception of Suns, losing to Denver, Utah and now Cleveland. No way are they going to win it again with the apathetic low energy they have shown all year. I now think Ariza was more important than people thought even given Artest’s being superior player in many ways. Some chemistry has been lost. He was a sparkplug  and now Lakers look like they are DUI. I mean just no game on either end. Fisher cannot guard young fast guards. Bynum is bogus threat with no excuse (I don&#039;t buy the asthma BS; he is simply a head case who is Zombified and has no sense for the game). Forced shots by everyone and no serious game plan, which I think leaves a lot of weight on PJ for continuing to use ancient Roman battle tactics (Triangle offense). There are enough smart coaching staffs that have the figured out Triangle’s weakness.  Cleveland’s coaching staff has it figured out.   Also the Cavs had motivation. They wanted it. I haven’t seen that with the Lakers all year and wonder if they have it besides KB, Gasol and Artest.  If they don’t GEL soon it&#039;s over for them this season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was ugly. The Lakers have shown zip against better teams with exception of Suns, losing to Denver, Utah and now Cleveland. No way are they going to win it again with the apathetic low energy they have shown all year. I now think Ariza was more important than people thought even given Artest’s being superior player in many ways. Some chemistry has been lost. He was a sparkplug  and now Lakers look like they are DUI. I mean just no game on either end. Fisher cannot guard young fast guards. Bynum is bogus threat with no excuse (I don&#8217;t buy the asthma BS; he is simply a head case who is Zombified and has no sense for the game). Forced shots by everyone and no serious game plan, which I think leaves a lot of weight on PJ for continuing to use ancient Roman battle tactics (Triangle offense). There are enough smart coaching staffs that have the figured out Triangle’s weakness.  Cleveland’s coaching staff has it figured out.   Also the Cavs had motivation. They wanted it. I haven’t seen that with the Lakers all year and wonder if they have it besides KB, Gasol and Artest.  If they don’t GEL soon it&#8217;s over for them this season.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 23:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like almost everyone else the way the lakers played  bothered me more than the loss. The cavs simply played well. If jamario moon is going to hit 7-8 shots, mo williams is going score almost 30 and they cavs hit 54% from the field they are going to win most games. However ever if the lakers play well, they would beat the cavs despite how the cavs play. 

I always say the lakers are good because they play as a team...they cavs aren&#039;t real contenders because its too much one on one basketball. Well the tables were turned and the cavs played laker type of basketball. Lebron didn&#039;t personally try to show up kobe. And the cavs won. Props to them. 

But the lakers were just atrocious. Way too much one on one basketball. Pau looked scared every time he got the ball. They missed like 5 freethrows when they were making their push before the half and at the beginning of the 3rd. They really let the terrible officiating take them out of their game. Yes that officiating was terrible. But lakers have to be able to play through that. 

It was some bad coaching by phil as well. I thought phil went away from his normal rotation at the beginning of the second and put vujacic instead of brown in. The cavs actually pushed the lead when lebron was on the bench. Then I though in the 3rd Phil would put brown and odom in for bynum and fish to change the pace of the game as he did vs Utah...he didn&#039;t do it until very late in the 3rd. Not only were the lakers a step slow, so was phil.

But lakers will bounce back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like almost everyone else the way the lakers played  bothered me more than the loss. The cavs simply played well. If jamario moon is going to hit 7-8 shots, mo williams is going score almost 30 and they cavs hit 54% from the field they are going to win most games. However ever if the lakers play well, they would beat the cavs despite how the cavs play. </p>
<p>I always say the lakers are good because they play as a team&#8230;they cavs aren&#8217;t real contenders because its too much one on one basketball. Well the tables were turned and the cavs played laker type of basketball. Lebron didn&#8217;t personally try to show up kobe. And the cavs won. Props to them. </p>
<p>But the lakers were just atrocious. Way too much one on one basketball. Pau looked scared every time he got the ball. They missed like 5 freethrows when they were making their push before the half and at the beginning of the 3rd. They really let the terrible officiating take them out of their game. Yes that officiating was terrible. But lakers have to be able to play through that. </p>
<p>It was some bad coaching by phil as well. I thought phil went away from his normal rotation at the beginning of the second and put vujacic instead of brown in. The cavs actually pushed the lead when lebron was on the bench. Then I though in the 3rd Phil would put brown and odom in for bynum and fish to change the pace of the game as he did vs Utah&#8230;he didn&#8217;t do it until very late in the 3rd. Not only were the lakers a step slow, so was phil.</p>
<p>But lakers will bounce back.</p>
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		<title>By: TRad</title>
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		<dc:creator>TRad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 23:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Gasol top 5 player

I don&#039;t know about style points (the beauty is in the eye of the beholder), but let&#039;s check some metrics.

PER

Last season Gasol was 12th. There were 5 bigs with better PER - Howard, Duncan, Nowitzki, Yao, Shaq.  

Win Shares

He was 4th last season, behind James, Paul and Wade.

Wins Produced

He was 8th last season. Better bigs - Howard, Murphy.

What does it tell us? That he&#039;s a perfect &quot;second bananas&quot; for Kobe. Efficient, good defender, good rebounder, average usage guy.

Is he top 5? I doubt it - I&#039;d take for sure James, Paul, Bryant, Howard before him. And there are several guys behind those four with similar productivity. But he&#039;s easily top 15, and there aren&#039;t many guys I&#039;d take before him to play in Lakers at 4. At this moment of their careers I&#039;d rather have Gasol than Duncan or Garnett. They might be a little better, but he&#039;s younger and healthier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Gasol top 5 player</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about style points (the beauty is in the eye of the beholder), but let&#8217;s check some metrics.</p>
<p>PER</p>
<p>Last season Gasol was 12th. There were 5 bigs with better PER &#8211; Howard, Duncan, Nowitzki, Yao, Shaq.  </p>
<p>Win Shares</p>
<p>He was 4th last season, behind James, Paul and Wade.</p>
<p>Wins Produced</p>
<p>He was 8th last season. Better bigs &#8211; Howard, Murphy.</p>
<p>What does it tell us? That he&#8217;s a perfect &#8220;second bananas&#8221; for Kobe. Efficient, good defender, good rebounder, average usage guy.</p>
<p>Is he top 5? I doubt it &#8211; I&#8217;d take for sure James, Paul, Bryant, Howard before him. And there are several guys behind those four with similar productivity. But he&#8217;s easily top 15, and there aren&#8217;t many guys I&#8217;d take before him to play in Lakers at 4. At this moment of their careers I&#8217;d rather have Gasol than Duncan or Garnett. They might be a little better, but he&#8217;s younger and healthier.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 23:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d take Gasol over Garnett any day at this point in their respective careers.  Just compare their numbers this year. Gasol is definitely top 10-15 in the league. 

And all this &quot;Gasoft&quot; stuff is just dumb. It&#039;s very obvious what happened- Gasol was frustrated and disappointed, both in the officiating which allowed Shaq and Z and Varejao to engage in Boston style grabbing, pulling, shoving and hacking and in himself for bouncing so many close shots off the rim. Gasol played a bad game. Just remember- the Lakers are 101 and 22 or so since adding him. That should end any question of his value to the team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d take Gasol over Garnett any day at this point in their respective careers.  Just compare their numbers this year. Gasol is definitely top 10-15 in the league. </p>
<p>And all this &#8220;Gasoft&#8221; stuff is just dumb. It&#8217;s very obvious what happened- Gasol was frustrated and disappointed, both in the officiating which allowed Shaq and Z and Varejao to engage in Boston style grabbing, pulling, shoving and hacking and in himself for bouncing so many close shots off the rim. Gasol played a bad game. Just remember- the Lakers are 101 and 22 or so since adding him. That should end any question of his value to the team.</p>
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		<title>By: Snoopy2006</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snoopy2006</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 22:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Finals 2 years ago had a little to do with the fact that Perkins and Garnett were the best defensive frontline in the NBA. Wouldn&#039;t  you expect any normal (though talented) player&#039;s output to diminish? When Kobe struggled against Battier or Artest or Bowen (rarely) we never claimed it was because he was soft, only because it was great defense. 

Also, no disrespect, but anyone questioning Drew&#039;s back to the basket game clearly has watched one Lakers game all season long, and it was yesterday. His back to the basket moves are the one thing about Drew&#039;s game that you can&#039;t question, it&#039;s the boards and passing people harp on. 

I have to say, though, the sky-is-falling reaction is more subdued than last year, which is better than I expected. I think Kurt was dead on - the next couple weeks will reveal a lot of things. Then we&#039;ll see if we can learn from our mistakes and get back our proper offensive movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Finals 2 years ago had a little to do with the fact that Perkins and Garnett were the best defensive frontline in the NBA. Wouldn&#8217;t  you expect any normal (though talented) player&#8217;s output to diminish? When Kobe struggled against Battier or Artest or Bowen (rarely) we never claimed it was because he was soft, only because it was great defense. </p>
<p>Also, no disrespect, but anyone questioning Drew&#8217;s back to the basket game clearly has watched one Lakers game all season long, and it was yesterday. His back to the basket moves are the one thing about Drew&#8217;s game that you can&#8217;t question, it&#8217;s the boards and passing people harp on. </p>
<p>I have to say, though, the sky-is-falling reaction is more subdued than last year, which is better than I expected. I think Kurt was dead on &#8211; the next couple weeks will reveal a lot of things. Then we&#8217;ll see if we can learn from our mistakes and get back our proper offensive movement.</p>
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