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		<title>By: Lora</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2010/01/02/another-day-another-kobe-buzzer-beater/comment-page-2/#comment-643598</link>
		<dc:creator>Lora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 04:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Luubi people like you are a trip. So what if he misses shots in the last 5 minutes you and your ESPN clowns with STATS. Your boy Lebron has ONE, I repeat 1, UNO game winner. It&#039;s basketball everyone misses. It is never about what you miss but the final score and last I checked LAKERS WON!!!!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Luubi people like you are a trip. So what if he misses shots in the last 5 minutes you and your ESPN clowns with STATS. Your boy Lebron has ONE, I repeat 1, UNO game winner. It&#8217;s basketball everyone misses. It is never about what you miss but the final score and last I checked LAKERS WON!!!!  <img src='http://www.forumblueandgold.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Busboys4me</title>
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		<dc:creator>Busboys4me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 02:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys there is only one Kobe.  I am talking about an addition to the second squad.  That&#039;s it.  If Nate&#039;s shot is off or he does not abide by PJ&#039;s rules, he sits.  If he causes a rift, he gets cut. What did they do with JR Rider and Rodman? It&#039;s not that serious.  Farmar is not coming back next year.  We don&#039;t want (or need) Morrison. So what do we lose by taking a chance?

How long do you guys feel Kobe is going to maintain this level of excellence?  He needs help.  Someone else who can score so he can rest.  His body is getting beat up.  He has played in playoffs after playoffs for 13 plus years.  Add into the equation Olympics and World Championhips and you see the man has done alot.  I love Kobe&#039;s game but I know that no-one beats father time.  Everyone declines and then loses it.  EVERYONE PERIOD!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys there is only one Kobe.  I am talking about an addition to the second squad.  That&#8217;s it.  If Nate&#8217;s shot is off or he does not abide by PJ&#8217;s rules, he sits.  If he causes a rift, he gets cut. What did they do with JR Rider and Rodman? It&#8217;s not that serious.  Farmar is not coming back next year.  We don&#8217;t want (or need) Morrison. So what do we lose by taking a chance?</p>
<p>How long do you guys feel Kobe is going to maintain this level of excellence?  He needs help.  Someone else who can score so he can rest.  His body is getting beat up.  He has played in playoffs after playoffs for 13 plus years.  Add into the equation Olympics and World Championhips and you see the man has done alot.  I love Kobe&#8217;s game but I know that no-one beats father time.  Everyone declines and then loses it.  EVERYONE PERIOD!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Busboys4me</title>
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		<dc:creator>Busboys4me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 22:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>78 Kurt

You are probably right about PJ not going to the all inclusive second squad anymore.  No reason to with the full compliment of players other than to save the strength of an already short team (the only have 13 and two of them are injured so we have an 11 man team of which 10 play - Mbenga odd man out).

Yes Nate is closer to AI than Kobe.  I was not speaking of today&#039;s Kobe I was speaking early Kobe (before he became the most polished player in the league).  Nate will never be Kobe.  Plus he has never had a coach like Phil.  NY is a wild team with no structure.  Given structure, he may respond.  As I said before, Kobe did. Phil and D Fish still real him in sometimes, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>78 Kurt</p>
<p>You are probably right about PJ not going to the all inclusive second squad anymore.  No reason to with the full compliment of players other than to save the strength of an already short team (the only have 13 and two of them are injured so we have an 11 man team of which 10 play &#8211; Mbenga odd man out).</p>
<p>Yes Nate is closer to AI than Kobe.  I was not speaking of today&#8217;s Kobe I was speaking early Kobe (before he became the most polished player in the league).  Nate will never be Kobe.  Plus he has never had a coach like Phil.  NY is a wild team with no structure.  Given structure, he may respond.  As I said before, Kobe did. Phil and D Fish still real him in sometimes, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 22:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Kurt here. The bottom line is, Nate Robinson would need a Kobe-esque &#039;green light&#039; in order to feel comfortable - and he is far from Kobe-esque. He is nowhere near consistent enough to be called an &#039;offensive juggernaut&#039;.

I watched that Knicks-Hawks game. Robinson took a lot of questionable shots and often dribbled the air out of the ball. It worked out because the shots were going in and the Hawks did a poor job didn&#039;t do a particularly good job helping when he penetrated. On other nights, he&#039;ll either keep both teams in the game or shoot his own team out of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Kurt here. The bottom line is, Nate Robinson would need a Kobe-esque &#8216;green light&#8217; in order to feel comfortable &#8211; and he is far from Kobe-esque. He is nowhere near consistent enough to be called an &#8216;offensive juggernaut&#8217;.</p>
<p>I watched that Knicks-Hawks game. Robinson took a lot of questionable shots and often dribbled the air out of the ball. It worked out because the shots were going in and the Hawks did a poor job didn&#8217;t do a particularly good job helping when he penetrated. On other nights, he&#8217;ll either keep both teams in the game or shoot his own team out of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 22:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lakers/Mavs preview up:

http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2010/01/03/preview-chat-the-dallas-mavericks-6/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lakers/Mavs preview up:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2010/01/03/preview-chat-the-dallas-mavericks-6/" rel="nofollow">http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2010/01/03/preview-chat-the-dallas-mavericks-6/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 22:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Busboy, I don&#039;t think I missed the point at all. With a full compliment of bigs, Jackson is not going to go back to a &quot;second unit only&quot; mentality of five guys playing together. We saw it for one stretch two years ago, but never since, and even then there was overlap and changes come the playoffs. So to think of the second unit as its own, distinct unit is a mistake in my mind. 

Second, Nate is wild and out of control, and he does not finish well at the rim (52.9% this season). What he can do well now is shoot from the midrange and he passes well, both things that could work in the Lakers system. Except he does not play well within any system, he likes to break out of it, so much so that he got benched on a run-and-gun team. And he is nowhere near Kobe on offense — Nate had four years of college and has been a pro for a few now, he is not growing and maturing and bringing new things to his game. Pretty much, what you see is what you get. Comparing him to Kobe on offense is a huge mistake, because Kobe always had a more diverse game. Nate is more Iverson than Kobe in style, and while that brings you points it does not bring you team play. All of this is to say, in my mind he does not solve our offensive woes with the second unit. Certainly not more than a healthy Artest and Walton would.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Busboy, I don&#8217;t think I missed the point at all. With a full compliment of bigs, Jackson is not going to go back to a &#8220;second unit only&#8221; mentality of five guys playing together. We saw it for one stretch two years ago, but never since, and even then there was overlap and changes come the playoffs. So to think of the second unit as its own, distinct unit is a mistake in my mind. </p>
<p>Second, Nate is wild and out of control, and he does not finish well at the rim (52.9% this season). What he can do well now is shoot from the midrange and he passes well, both things that could work in the Lakers system. Except he does not play well within any system, he likes to break out of it, so much so that he got benched on a run-and-gun team. And he is nowhere near Kobe on offense — Nate had four years of college and has been a pro for a few now, he is not growing and maturing and bringing new things to his game. Pretty much, what you see is what you get. Comparing him to Kobe on offense is a huge mistake, because Kobe always had a more diverse game. Nate is more Iverson than Kobe in style, and while that brings you points it does not bring you team play. All of this is to say, in my mind he does not solve our offensive woes with the second unit. Certainly not more than a healthy Artest and Walton would.</p>
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		<title>By: Busboys4me</title>
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		<dc:creator>Busboys4me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 22:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#73
Kurt

You missed it again.  It is not about defense, its about a scorer on the second squad.  One who can attack the basket, shoot from outside, take people off the dribble and kick the ball out to open players.  He would not be starting therefore he would not be playing with Bynum and Gasol.  

If you remember correctly, when the Lakers had Ariza, Turiaf, Radmanovic, Farmar and Sasha, PJ would start the entire second team at the beginning of the second and fourth quarters and gave the starters a rest.

Do you think that Nate can offensively handle a game?  He may be ragged, but so was Kobe at one time.  Nate is an offensive juggernaut, like Kobe, but without Kobe&#039;s defense.  I&#039;m just commenting on what I see.  If you don&#039;t believe me, question Kobe for saying &quot;I really like Nate&#039;s game&quot; after a game against New York last year.

I do not covet him (desire him inordenately), I said he would solve our offensive struggles on the second squad. Be careful, words are powerful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#73<br />
Kurt</p>
<p>You missed it again.  It is not about defense, its about a scorer on the second squad.  One who can attack the basket, shoot from outside, take people off the dribble and kick the ball out to open players.  He would not be starting therefore he would not be playing with Bynum and Gasol.  </p>
<p>If you remember correctly, when the Lakers had Ariza, Turiaf, Radmanovic, Farmar and Sasha, PJ would start the entire second team at the beginning of the second and fourth quarters and gave the starters a rest.</p>
<p>Do you think that Nate can offensively handle a game?  He may be ragged, but so was Kobe at one time.  Nate is an offensive juggernaut, like Kobe, but without Kobe&#8217;s defense.  I&#8217;m just commenting on what I see.  If you don&#8217;t believe me, question Kobe for saying &#8220;I really like Nate&#8217;s game&#8221; after a game against New York last year.</p>
<p>I do not covet him (desire him inordenately), I said he would solve our offensive struggles on the second squad. Be careful, words are powerful.</p>
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		<title>By: j. d. hastings</title>
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		<dc:creator>j. d. hastings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 21:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>75- Gasol missed weeks with an injury.</description>
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		<title>By: BOOBOO</title>
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		<dc:creator>BOOBOO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 20:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fisher-Bryant-Artest-Odom-Bynum 	229.3
Fisher-Bryant-Artest-Odom-Gasol 103.7

Is there a reason why PJ hasn&#039;t gone to the Odom-Gasol line up more? Those are minutes, by the way. Phil has played Odom and Bynum together more than twice the minutes of Odom and Gasol. 

And what&#039;s the expected return date of Luke?</description>
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Fisher-Bryant-Artest-Odom-Gasol 103.7</p>
<p>Is there a reason why PJ hasn&#8217;t gone to the Odom-Gasol line up more? Those are minutes, by the way. Phil has played Odom and Bynum together more than twice the minutes of Odom and Gasol. </p>
<p>And what&#8217;s the expected return date of Luke?</p>
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		<title>By: jeremyLA24</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeremyLA24</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 19:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The past two times Kobe hit a game winner our momentum carried over to the next game for commanding wins. Check it out...
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/teams/schedule?team=lal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The past two times Kobe hit a game winner our momentum carried over to the next game for commanding wins. Check it out&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/teams/schedule?team=lal" rel="nofollow">http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/teams/schedule?team=lal</a></p>
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