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		<title>By: Snoopy2006</title>
		<link>http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2010/01/19/wins-are-not-made-in-48-minutes/comment-page-2/#comment-646352</link>
		<dc:creator>Snoopy2006</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 21:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Harris rumors are more ridiculous than the Bosh rumors. At least the Bosh deal made sense - Bynum would be a great return. We&#039;re not giving up any of our big 4 for Harris. NJ wants to clear space, but they&#039;re not giving up their most tradeable asset (after Lopez) for a pu-pu platter. They&#039;d want at least 1 solid asset in return, and I don&#039;t see anything we&#039;re willing to give up. Also, I didn&#039;t realize his salary was as large as Kurt said.

Love the note BCR made. Harris is a much, much better version of Farmar. But the concerns about fitting into the triangle are the same. Would he be great with the 2nd unit? He could instantly transform it into the best bench in the NBA. But realistically I don&#039;t see what NJ would take that we&#039;d give up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Harris rumors are more ridiculous than the Bosh rumors. At least the Bosh deal made sense &#8211; Bynum would be a great return. We&#8217;re not giving up any of our big 4 for Harris. NJ wants to clear space, but they&#8217;re not giving up their most tradeable asset (after Lopez) for a pu-pu platter. They&#8217;d want at least 1 solid asset in return, and I don&#8217;t see anything we&#8217;re willing to give up. Also, I didn&#8217;t realize his salary was as large as Kurt said.</p>
<p>Love the note BCR made. Harris is a much, much better version of Farmar. But the concerns about fitting into the triangle are the same. Would he be great with the 2nd unit? He could instantly transform it into the best bench in the NBA. But realistically I don&#8217;t see what NJ would take that we&#8217;d give up.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 18:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darnit I wanted the Lakers to beat the Cavs at full strength, ur right now all the Cavs fans will give excuses if we win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darnit I wanted the Lakers to beat the Cavs at full strength, ur right now all the Cavs fans will give excuses if we win.</p>
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		<title>By: DTM</title>
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		<dc:creator>DTM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ohh great! Mo Williams is not available, so, if the Lakers win, here come the excuses:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/Cleveland-Cavaliers-Mo-Williams-out-with-shoulder-sprain-012110</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ohh great! Mo Williams is not available, so, if the Lakers win, here come the excuses:</p>
<p><a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/Cleveland-Cavaliers-Mo-Williams-out-with-shoulder-sprain-012110" rel="nofollow">http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/Cleveland-Cavaliers-Mo-Williams-out-with-shoulder-sprain-012110</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 05:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent read! Loved the comparisons.

And yes the Celtics can suck it....hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent read! Loved the comparisons.</p>
<p>And yes the Celtics can suck it&#8230;.hard.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 05:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron, do you know how many Laker-involved trade rumors there will be in the next three weeks? 99-100% of them totally bogus? Again, my concern is simply what started to happen: A guy with a long track record of being wrong about the Lakers throws out a line about a trade nobody else seems to have heard of and it becomes the topic of the day around here. That can easily happen every day. Hence the harsh standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron, do you know how many Laker-involved trade rumors there will be in the next three weeks? 99-100% of them totally bogus? Again, my concern is simply what started to happen: A guy with a long track record of being wrong about the Lakers throws out a line about a trade nobody else seems to have heard of and it becomes the topic of the day around here. That can easily happen every day. Hence the harsh standard.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 04:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kurt,
Aren&#039;t we allowed to speculate on how a rumored trade would benefit the team?  I guess not.  The Bosh rumors were a little silly because it seems obvious that if the Lakers were going to make a big trade it would be for that position that is last in the NBA right now... the Lakers PG spot.  If anything I would be surprised if the Lakers didn&#039;t make a trade for a PG this year.  They have a team that can win a championship for the next 3 years and they currently have the worst starting PG in the NBA... wouldn&#039;t it be strange if they didn&#039;t upgrade the point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kurt,<br />
Aren&#8217;t we allowed to speculate on how a rumored trade would benefit the team?  I guess not.  The Bosh rumors were a little silly because it seems obvious that if the Lakers were going to make a big trade it would be for that position that is last in the NBA right now&#8230; the Lakers PG spot.  If anything I would be surprised if the Lakers didn&#8217;t make a trade for a PG this year.  They have a team that can win a championship for the next 3 years and they currently have the worst starting PG in the NBA&#8230; wouldn&#8217;t it be strange if they didn&#8217;t upgrade the point?</p>
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		<title>By: harold</title>
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		<dc:creator>harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 04:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With our kind of payroll, I think the best thing we probably have going is letting contracts expire and look for somebody like Sundiata Gaines ;)

Coby Karl?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With our kind of payroll, I think the best thing we probably have going is letting contracts expire and look for somebody like Sundiata Gaines <img src='http://www.forumblueandgold.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Coby Karl?</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 04:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, you know I&#039;ve been busy with other stuff when I let this much trade speculation live on the site for a day.....

First, this is Ric &quot;Kobe will never play in a Lakers uniform again&quot; Bucher we are talking about, his Lakers sources have had a terrible track record over the years. Second, Harris is locked up with three years after this on at $8.5 to $9.3 million a year, so that is a long-term, big cash deal for a Lakers team with a lot of money already on the books. The Lakers are not likely to take on all that salary. Finally, he got it but notice the team writers have said nothing, meaning this likely is not coming from someone within the Lakers inner circle. Maybe Harris&#039; agent. Maybe the Nets trying to drive up the price on him. Maybe a lot of things that have nothing to do with the Lakers interest. All of this is to say, I&#039;m skeptical. 

What he has heard about Bynum/Bosh is what I heard: There have been no talks. But fans and people in the media room love to bat that one around. Really, Toronto needs to get a feel for if they have any shot of keeping Bosh. If the answer is no they have to consider trades, but the team that takes him has to do a KG-like trade and extend, so Bosh has some veto power. I think the questions here are 1) Would LA really take on $5+ million more a year over what Bynum costs for Bosh? 2) Does Bosh really want to come here and be option #3? I don&#039;t know that either of those are true, and it is less likely both are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, you know I&#8217;ve been busy with other stuff when I let this much trade speculation live on the site for a day&#8230;..</p>
<p>First, this is Ric &#8220;Kobe will never play in a Lakers uniform again&#8221; Bucher we are talking about, his Lakers sources have had a terrible track record over the years. Second, Harris is locked up with three years after this on at $8.5 to $9.3 million a year, so that is a long-term, big cash deal for a Lakers team with a lot of money already on the books. The Lakers are not likely to take on all that salary. Finally, he got it but notice the team writers have said nothing, meaning this likely is not coming from someone within the Lakers inner circle. Maybe Harris&#8217; agent. Maybe the Nets trying to drive up the price on him. Maybe a lot of things that have nothing to do with the Lakers interest. All of this is to say, I&#8217;m skeptical. </p>
<p>What he has heard about Bynum/Bosh is what I heard: There have been no talks. But fans and people in the media room love to bat that one around. Really, Toronto needs to get a feel for if they have any shot of keeping Bosh. If the answer is no they have to consider trades, but the team that takes him has to do a KG-like trade and extend, so Bosh has some veto power. I think the questions here are 1) Would LA really take on $5+ million more a year over what Bynum costs for Bosh? 2) Does Bosh really want to come here and be option #3? I don&#8217;t know that either of those are true, and it is less likely both are.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 04:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I kind of tend to think the Nets would be willing to give Devin up for some expiring contracts in order to create cap space for John Wall, who would be the point guard of the future if they landed him. But the Nets have gone on record saying everyone is on the trading block (although I highly doubt they&#039;d trade Lopez since he is such a prospect). I agree though I dont see how he would work in the triangle, but he is athletic enough to play solid defense and being a component of a better team would make ANY player better, especially him. Instead of him having to go 1 on 5 he would actually get to utilize his skills better by being the 3rd or 4th option, and if Trevor can improve his shooting so drastically I&#039;m sure he could as well. Let&#039;s be honest being the Lakers PG you get ALOT of open looks since everyone else gets doubled, so maybe he would have more success shooting the ball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kind of tend to think the Nets would be willing to give Devin up for some expiring contracts in order to create cap space for John Wall, who would be the point guard of the future if they landed him. But the Nets have gone on record saying everyone is on the trading block (although I highly doubt they&#8217;d trade Lopez since he is such a prospect). I agree though I dont see how he would work in the triangle, but he is athletic enough to play solid defense and being a component of a better team would make ANY player better, especially him. Instead of him having to go 1 on 5 he would actually get to utilize his skills better by being the 3rd or 4th option, and if Trevor can improve his shooting so drastically I&#8217;m sure he could as well. Let&#8217;s be honest being the Lakers PG you get ALOT of open looks since everyone else gets doubled, so maybe he would have more success shooting the ball.</p>
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		<title>By: BCR</title>
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		<dc:creator>BCR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 04:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>52,

His shooting is suspect, which is the primary issue concerning him, although you have to take his New Jersey numbers with a grain of salt because he was basically hoisting up three-pointers off the dribble. Even his best Dallas numbers (35.7%) aren&#039;t anything to write home about, so he&#039;s a middling-at-best shooter.

As far as Harris versus Farmar, he&#039;s basically a faster, bigger version of Farmar who finishes well and draws fouls by the bucketload. He&#039;s also a superb backcourt defender, or at least he was in Dallas, as he&#039;s not put the effort in at New Jersey, which is understandable given that he&#039;s the primary offensive option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>52,</p>
<p>His shooting is suspect, which is the primary issue concerning him, although you have to take his New Jersey numbers with a grain of salt because he was basically hoisting up three-pointers off the dribble. Even his best Dallas numbers (35.7%) aren&#8217;t anything to write home about, so he&#8217;s a middling-at-best shooter.</p>
<p>As far as Harris versus Farmar, he&#8217;s basically a faster, bigger version of Farmar who finishes well and draws fouls by the bucketload. He&#8217;s also a superb backcourt defender, or at least he was in Dallas, as he&#8217;s not put the effort in at New Jersey, which is understandable given that he&#8217;s the primary offensive option.</p>
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