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		<title>By: Jerome Colson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerome Colson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 01:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Milt Plum, a sort of lost in the shuffle NFL quarterback, won the passer ratings, nobody said that he was better than Unitas, Bart Starr, etc. When Mike Tyson was knocking dudes out right and left, nobody suggested that he was the second coming of Muhammad Ali. So then, I ask, why is there such a full-blown effort to deify a basketball player who&#039;s still trying to make his mark? Their convoluted reasoning is probably built on &quot;disparagement of one in order to build up another.&quot;

Perhaps the most misleading barometer in sports is the &quot;beaten- to-death&quot; homage given to stats. Somebody in the pundit department suggested that better stats makes the better ballplayer. James over Kobe? No way!! Chamberlain over Russell? No way. Plum over Unitas? No way. Tyson over Ali? No way.

Of course, if you just want him to be the best by billboard proclamation, have at it. All of the lip gloss in the world won&#039;t hide the fact that by hook or crook, you want James to be the face of the NBA, deserving or not. If that is the case, just do it. For the record, he is not the best basketball player in the NBA.

Hurry back, Kobe, and do your thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Milt Plum, a sort of lost in the shuffle NFL quarterback, won the passer ratings, nobody said that he was better than Unitas, Bart Starr, etc. When Mike Tyson was knocking dudes out right and left, nobody suggested that he was the second coming of Muhammad Ali. So then, I ask, why is there such a full-blown effort to deify a basketball player who&#8217;s still trying to make his mark? Their convoluted reasoning is probably built on &#8220;disparagement of one in order to build up another.&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps the most misleading barometer in sports is the &#8220;beaten- to-death&#8221; homage given to stats. Somebody in the pundit department suggested that better stats makes the better ballplayer. James over Kobe? No way!! Chamberlain over Russell? No way. Plum over Unitas? No way. Tyson over Ali? No way.</p>
<p>Of course, if you just want him to be the best by billboard proclamation, have at it. All of the lip gloss in the world won&#8217;t hide the fact that by hook or crook, you want James to be the face of the NBA, deserving or not. If that is the case, just do it. For the record, he is not the best basketball player in the NBA.</p>
<p>Hurry back, Kobe, and do your thing.</p>
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		<title>By: chibi</title>
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		<dc:creator>chibi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 22:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>more than 2/3s of the season is accounted for, but there isn&#039;t a very clear picture of what the playoff seedings will look like for the most part.  

It would take some combination of POR or SA losing more than half of their remaining games and .600+ ball by NO, MEM, and HOU(all sub .600 teams) to make the playoff picture even more chaotic.  

A western conference division champ might have to host the Spurs.  1st round nightmare, thy name is Duncan.     

At the rate they&#039;re winning, either Denver or Utah will take the division crown and at least the #2 seed; the runner-up would have the #4 seed.  One will avoid the #1(or #2 if they overtake LA) seed until the conference finals; the other will not, assuming home court advantage holds for all teams.  

Bottom-line, maybe the additional playoff gate revenue doesn&#039;t amount to enough to offset the cost of additional luxury tax payments.  However, one fanbase is going to question ownership&#039;s committment to winning for not keeping a Ronnie Brewer(Utah), or adding a Drew Gooden(Denver) if they don&#039;t win it all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>more than 2/3s of the season is accounted for, but there isn&#8217;t a very clear picture of what the playoff seedings will look like for the most part.  </p>
<p>It would take some combination of POR or SA losing more than half of their remaining games and .600+ ball by NO, MEM, and HOU(all sub .600 teams) to make the playoff picture even more chaotic.  </p>
<p>A western conference division champ might have to host the Spurs.  1st round nightmare, thy name is Duncan.     </p>
<p>At the rate they&#8217;re winning, either Denver or Utah will take the division crown and at least the #2 seed; the runner-up would have the #4 seed.  One will avoid the #1(or #2 if they overtake LA) seed until the conference finals; the other will not, assuming home court advantage holds for all teams.  </p>
<p>Bottom-line, maybe the additional playoff gate revenue doesn&#8217;t amount to enough to offset the cost of additional luxury tax payments.  However, one fanbase is going to question ownership&#8217;s committment to winning for not keeping a Ronnie Brewer(Utah), or adding a Drew Gooden(Denver) if they don&#8217;t win it all.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mojo,
When there is no news - the talking heads will recycle some.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mojo,<br />
When there is no news &#8211; the talking heads will recycle some.</p>
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		<title>By: Darius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New post up.  Looking at Kobe&#039;s return and how it affects the rotations, defense, and offense.

http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2010/02/22/what-it-means-as-we-welcome-back-kobe/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New post up.  Looking at Kobe&#8217;s return and how it affects the rotations, defense, and offense.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2010/02/22/what-it-means-as-we-welcome-back-kobe/" rel="nofollow">http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2010/02/22/what-it-means-as-we-welcome-back-kobe/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mojo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone have more info on Kobe&#039;s extension status besides this guy?

Zach (Chicago)
Why do people keep writing off the Bulls for the Lebron sweepstakes? They can offer a max contract &amp; Chicago is a very desirable place to be both market wise and talent wise.

Chris Sheridan
Miami: Warm in January.New York: Never sleeps.Chicago: Bitterly cold, have to walk past Michael Jordan&#039;s statue on the way to work.I will say this though: If Kobe Bryant continues to say no to the extension the Lakers are offering him, and if Phil Jackson starts to talk as though he&#039;s leaving, Chicago comes onto the rdar in a big, big way. Remember, when Kobe was trying to force a trade two and a half years ago, the Bulls were the team working most diligently to get him -- right up until two days before the season-opener.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone have more info on Kobe&#8217;s extension status besides this guy?</p>
<p>Zach (Chicago)<br />
Why do people keep writing off the Bulls for the Lebron sweepstakes? They can offer a max contract &amp; Chicago is a very desirable place to be both market wise and talent wise.</p>
<p>Chris Sheridan<br />
Miami: Warm in January.New York: Never sleeps.Chicago: Bitterly cold, have to walk past Michael Jordan&#8217;s statue on the way to work.I will say this though: If Kobe Bryant continues to say no to the extension the Lakers are offering him, and if Phil Jackson starts to talk as though he&#8217;s leaving, Chicago comes onto the rdar in a big, big way. Remember, when Kobe was trying to force a trade two and a half years ago, the Bulls were the team working most diligently to get him &#8212; right up until two days before the season-opener.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>6 Apricot, if I wanted to watch some random streetballer dunk I&#039;d go on youtube. I&#039;d rather see LeBron, Dwight, Carmelo etc. the superstars dunk. But the problem is there just aren&#039;t that many superstars who can dunk year after year. They should make some changes to the rules to make it more exciting - like raising the hoop to 12&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>6 Apricot, if I wanted to watch some random streetballer dunk I&#8217;d go on youtube. I&#8217;d rather see LeBron, Dwight, Carmelo etc. the superstars dunk. But the problem is there just aren&#8217;t that many superstars who can dunk year after year. They should make some changes to the rules to make it more exciting &#8211; like raising the hoop to 12&#8242;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s been fun watching the team win without Kobe, almost like the pressure is off a bit . Losing to a team like the Celtics without the Lakers&#039; best player is an easier pill to swallow than losing to the Celtics with the whole team in uniform. And should the Lakers win some tough games without Kobe, it&#039;s like a fun-filled bonus.

I can compare it to the &#039;94-&#039;95 Lake Show team we discussed her a few months back: success when no one&#039;s expecting much makes for a fun time for the fans. This time off for Kobe reminded me of that season.

Now that this in-season mini-vacation from the pressures of all the high expectations is about to end, I&#039;ll admit that it&#039;s been fun watching the other guys play well in his absence.

Vacation&#039;s over - now let&#039;s hope the guys get down to the business of prepping for another run into June.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been fun watching the team win without Kobe, almost like the pressure is off a bit . Losing to a team like the Celtics without the Lakers&#8217; best player is an easier pill to swallow than losing to the Celtics with the whole team in uniform. And should the Lakers win some tough games without Kobe, it&#8217;s like a fun-filled bonus.</p>
<p>I can compare it to the &#8217;94-&#8217;95 Lake Show team we discussed her a few months back: success when no one&#8217;s expecting much makes for a fun time for the fans. This time off for Kobe reminded me of that season.</p>
<p>Now that this in-season mini-vacation from the pressures of all the high expectations is about to end, I&#8217;ll admit that it&#8217;s been fun watching the other guys play well in his absence.</p>
<p>Vacation&#8217;s over &#8211; now let&#8217;s hope the guys get down to the business of prepping for another run into June.</p>
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		<title>By: sbd</title>
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		<dc:creator>sbd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Granted Martin is a terrific offensive talent.  But that backcourt is now defensively challenged to say the least.  Houston may be better overall but match up worse against the Lakers.  If Adelman puts Brooks on Fish, who does Martin guard?  Kobe would head straight to the post even before tip-off.  Artest?  I think not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Granted Martin is a terrific offensive talent.  But that backcourt is now defensively challenged to say the least.  Houston may be better overall but match up worse against the Lakers.  If Adelman puts Brooks on Fish, who does Martin guard?  Kobe would head straight to the post even before tip-off.  Artest?  I think not.</p>
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		<title>By: Apricot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Apricot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our old pal Kurt posts on fixing the Dunk Contest:  http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/nba-tnt-sit-down-to-talk-dunk-contest-changes.php

My suggested solution is simple. If there&#039;s going to be a dunk contest, open the dunk contest up for everyone (NBA, D-League, amateurs, insanely tall Scotsmen, etc). People submit audition tapes and the league selects the top eight. Then it&#039;s a straight up 2 dunks each, three rounds halving the field each time, and let viewers vote on the winners.  Basically a dunking American Idol.  Who wouldn&#039;t watch that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our old pal Kurt posts on fixing the Dunk Contest:  <a href="http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/nba-tnt-sit-down-to-talk-dunk-contest-changes.php" rel="nofollow">http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/nba-tnt-sit-down-to-talk-dunk-contest-changes.php</a></p>
<p>My suggested solution is simple. If there&#8217;s going to be a dunk contest, open the dunk contest up for everyone (NBA, D-League, amateurs, insanely tall Scotsmen, etc). People submit audition tapes and the league selects the top eight. Then it&#8217;s a straight up 2 dunks each, three rounds halving the field each time, and let viewers vote on the winners.  Basically a dunking American Idol.  Who wouldn&#8217;t watch that?</p>
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		<title>By: sT</title>
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		<dc:creator>sT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 18:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Phillip about the post Kobe sega this year.  I would like him to take off another couple of weeks, but we know that will not happen.  I believe the team has stepped up in his absence, and the Lakers are a better team with 75% (health wise) Kobe on the floor, he was just not that before the last injury.  This site has taken on a somewhat new look, change is good, right?  Now off to the &#039;other&#039; site...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Phillip about the post Kobe sega this year.  I would like him to take off another couple of weeks, but we know that will not happen.  I believe the team has stepped up in his absence, and the Lakers are a better team with 75% (health wise) Kobe on the floor, he was just not that before the last injury.  This site has taken on a somewhat new look, change is good, right?  Now off to the &#8216;other&#8217; site&#8230;</p>
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