Comments on: Facing A Zone: Looking At The Lakers Zone Offense http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2010/03/18/facing-a-zone-looking-at-the-lakers-zone-offense/ A Lakers Blog. Thoughts, reflections, and the odd rant on the Los Angeles Lakers and the NBA (even the Clippers). Thu, 09 Sep 2010 16:22:01 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Rafael http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2010/03/18/facing-a-zone-looking-at-the-lakers-zone-offense/comment-page-1/#comment-657117 Rafael Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:36:57 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=3301#comment-657117 14. that lineup works offensively, but sasha+ luke would destroy us in defense 14. that lineup works offensively, but sasha+ luke would destroy us in defense

]]> By: The Dude Abides http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2010/03/18/facing-a-zone-looking-at-the-lakers-zone-offense/comment-page-1/#comment-657109 The Dude Abides Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:49:32 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=3301#comment-657109 16. Philip, here's a bit of news to cheer you up. http://tinyurl.com/y8bvx7h 16. Philip, here’s a bit of news to cheer you up.
http://tinyurl.com/y8bvx7h

]]> By: Danny http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2010/03/18/facing-a-zone-looking-at-the-lakers-zone-offense/comment-page-1/#comment-657106 Danny Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:40:39 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=3301#comment-657106 Thanks Darius! Website's actually pretty useful. Thing is, we don't get many Laker games here in Singapore so it's kind of hard to visualize some of the plays that you guys discuss. Some excellent work here though, I'm in awe most of the time of all the great analysis. Thanks Darius! Website’s actually pretty useful. Thing is, we don’t get many Laker games here in Singapore so it’s kind of hard to visualize some of the plays that you guys discuss. Some excellent work here though, I’m in awe most of the time of all the great analysis.

]]> By: Darius http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2010/03/18/facing-a-zone-looking-at-the-lakers-zone-offense/comment-page-1/#comment-657105 Darius Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:32:41 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=3301#comment-657105 #18. Danny, I wish I could point you in a specific direction on this one, but I'm coming up blank. This is an interesting page that I just found though: http://www.coachesclipboard.net/BasketballTerminology.html #18. Danny,
I wish I could point you in a specific direction on this one, but I’m coming up blank.

This is an interesting page that I just found though:

http://www.coachesclipboard.net/BasketballTerminology.html

]]> By: Danny http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2010/03/18/facing-a-zone-looking-at-the-lakers-zone-offense/comment-page-1/#comment-657104 Danny Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:27:51 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=3301#comment-657104 Pretty new to the tactics side of basketball, where can I go to find out more about the high post, low block, high block, low post, flashing high, etc etc? Pretty new to the tactics side of basketball, where can I go to find out more about the high post, low block, high block, low post, flashing high, etc etc?

]]> By: Darius http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2010/03/18/facing-a-zone-looking-at-the-lakers-zone-offense/comment-page-1/#comment-657101 Darius Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:20:31 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=3301#comment-657101 New post up. http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2010/03/19/around-the-world-wide-web-welcoming-back-kurt-rambis/ New post up.

http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2010/03/19/around-the-world-wide-web-welcoming-back-kurt-rambis/

]]> By: Phillip http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2010/03/18/facing-a-zone-looking-at-the-lakers-zone-offense/comment-page-1/#comment-657100 Phillip Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:15:02 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=3301#comment-657100 @15 The Dude Abides I grew up in Los Angeles as a Giants fan, loathed the Dodgers for all that they were worth, but when I saw that Scully was in the hospital on the bottom line of Sports Center I immediately thought of Chick and had all of the sympathy in the world for him, his family and the Dodgers family. I know how much he means to that franchise and to the city. I'm glad he's going to be okay. He's definitely one of baseball's icons. @15 The Dude Abides

I grew up in Los Angeles as a Giants fan, loathed the Dodgers for all that they were worth, but when I saw that Scully was in the hospital on the bottom line of Sports Center I immediately thought of Chick and had all of the sympathy in the world for him, his family and the Dodgers family. I know how much he means to that franchise and to the city. I’m glad he’s going to be okay. He’s definitely one of baseball’s icons.

]]> By: The Dude Abides http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2010/03/18/facing-a-zone-looking-at-the-lakers-zone-offense/comment-page-1/#comment-657096 The Dude Abides Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:41:06 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=3301#comment-657096 This news brought up a distressing flashback: http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/news/story?id=5008679 Relieved that Vinny's ok. This news brought up a distressing flashback:

http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/news/story?id=5008679

Relieved that Vinny’s ok.

]]> By: Renato Afonso http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2010/03/18/facing-a-zone-looking-at-the-lakers-zone-offense/comment-page-1/#comment-657094 Renato Afonso Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:50:36 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=3301#comment-657094 The triangle should be a starting point to our zone offense, but the triangle itself is not completely effective against a zone. To properly attack a zone, you must have someone coming from the weak side to flash the high post. If you do that within the triangle you're degenerating it, destroying the spacing provided by the triangle. What I think we should do is to assume the basic triangle positioning and then use a more standard zone offense (that and hit open jump shots). Kobe+Pau+Luke+Sasha+(insert big) should own every zone defense they were to encounter. All you need to do is to score or get easy looks in the first few possessions and then it will go away... The triangle should be a starting point to our zone offense, but the triangle itself is not completely effective against a zone. To properly attack a zone, you must have someone coming from the weak side to flash the high post. If you do that within the triangle you’re degenerating it, destroying the spacing provided by the triangle.

What I think we should do is to assume the basic triangle positioning and then use a more standard zone offense (that and hit open jump shots). Kobe+Pau+Luke+Sasha+(insert big) should own every zone defense they were to encounter. All you need to do is to score or get easy looks in the first few possessions and then it will go away…

]]> By: alex v. http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2010/03/18/facing-a-zone-looking-at-the-lakers-zone-offense/comment-page-1/#comment-657083 alex v. Fri, 19 Mar 2010 08:55:06 +0000 http://www.forumblueandgold.com/?p=3301#comment-657083 It seems to me that <i>any</i> sophisticated (i.e. pro) offense is going to have an advantage over a zone. The triangle is better than most because of its emphasis on spacing and coordinated cuts. But the real issue is having the discipline to run it correctly and long enough to find the holes. I think that's where Odom, Brown, Farmar and, sometimes, Kobe fall down. Of course, having both the skill and discipline to run our full offense is, in my opinion, one of the biggest problems we have on offense regardless of the defense. All this being said though, I can't imagine that we're going to see all that much zone defense in the play-offs. With so much time between games, the Lakers will have time to practice specific counters to whatever flavor of zone teams are running. (And I don't think there are many (if any) NBA teams that are trotting out two or three different kinds of zones. ) (Back before college basketball became an extended three-point shooting contest, it used to be great to watch teams put out wildly different defenses from possession to possesion (particularly ACC games).) It seems to me that any sophisticated (i.e. pro) offense is going to have an advantage over a zone. The triangle is better than most because of its emphasis on spacing and coordinated cuts. But the real issue is having the discipline to run it correctly and long enough to find the holes. I think that’s where Odom, Brown, Farmar and, sometimes, Kobe fall down. Of course, having both the skill and discipline to run our full offense is, in my opinion, one of the biggest problems we have on offense regardless of the defense.

All this being said though, I can’t imagine that we’re going to see all that much zone defense in the play-offs. With so much time between games, the Lakers will have time to practice specific counters to whatever flavor of zone teams are running. (And I don’t think there are many (if any) NBA teams that are trotting out two or three different kinds of zones. )

(Back before college basketball became an extended three-point shooting contest, it used to be great to watch teams put out wildly different defenses from possession to possesion (particularly ACC games).)

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