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	<title>Comments on: Lakers/Suns Preview Part 3: When The Suns Have The Ball</title>
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		<title>By: Rakeback</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rakeback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 13:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent piece. Not tedious at all. It&#039;s good to catch an inside glimpse of the best offence of the League. I for one am hoping it&#039;ll be right on spot and the Lakers won&#039;t be able to defend it hehe...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent piece. Not tedious at all. It&#8217;s good to catch an inside glimpse of the best offence of the League. I for one am hoping it&#8217;ll be right on spot and the Lakers won&#8217;t be able to defend it hehe&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 23:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>White Lightning Machiavelli was best known for his books called the Prince and The Art of War and was considered a peer of Da Vinci. He of couse was Italian and many of his theories were considered  almost Zen like at the time.

Lil Pau referenced him in a prior post. 

See what happens to Laker fans when there is no game. I get weird!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>White Lightning Machiavelli was best known for his books called the Prince and The Art of War and was considered a peer of Da Vinci. He of couse was Italian and many of his theories were considered  almost Zen like at the time.</p>
<p>Lil Pau referenced him in a prior post. </p>
<p>See what happens to Laker fans when there is no game. I get weird!</p>
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		<title>By: zayvado</title>
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		<dc:creator>zayvado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 20:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i no everybody&#039;s on the sun&#039;s banwagon but look for kode to have a mj performance in this series. Lead by the steady coaching of phil jackson and the veteran leadership of players mixed with the explosive youth they have on the team. in my opinion all this lebron shames talk and thats hes the best player in the game has awakened the beast (kobe byrant) he looks focused and we all no hes thrives in these moments. ON the other hand give the suns credit for there excellent play and making it to the finals -prediction if the suns dont win game 1 they wont win this series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i no everybody&#8217;s on the sun&#8217;s banwagon but look for kode to have a mj performance in this series. Lead by the steady coaching of phil jackson and the veteran leadership of players mixed with the explosive youth they have on the team. in my opinion all this lebron shames talk and thats hes the best player in the game has awakened the beast (kobe byrant) he looks focused and we all no hes thrives in these moments. ON the other hand give the suns credit for there excellent play and making it to the finals -prediction if the suns dont win game 1 they wont win this series.</p>
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		<title>By: Darius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 17:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A new post is up.  Taking a look at the x-factors for each team.

http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2010/05/15/taking-a-look-at-the-x-factors/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A new post is up.  Taking a look at the x-factors for each team.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2010/05/15/taking-a-look-at-the-x-factors/" rel="nofollow">http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2010/05/15/taking-a-look-at-the-x-factors/</a></p>
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		<title>By: R.J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>R.J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 09:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all  the talk on AM radio and on the internet (FBG excluded)  part of me is wondering why the Lakers are even suiting up for this series.  The Suns are clearly the most devastating offensive force in the history of history  and they run about 35 deep. (their hot dog vendors have PER&#039;s that are off the charts)

The Lakers have no business losing this series.  Phoenix is a very good team playing what some consider the best basketball in the league (although everybody seesm awfully quick to dismiss the fact that Orlando has yet to lose a playoff game), but their last game will have been 8 days ago when the ball tips off at the D-town Hoops Dojo (sorry, I&#039;ve been listening to alot of AM 570 lately)  Who&#039;s to say they are still playing the best ball in the league?  my take is that as long as they are still playing the BEST BALL in the league, then the Lakers will have their hands full.  The moment they fall below that level, they are going to get hurt.  I really don&#039;t want to be overly dismissive, but when push comes to shove, I feel that most Laker fans would admit that this is a series the Lakers should win.  yes, they provide  different challenges than the Jazz, but at the end of the day, even Sir Charles admitted, Nash and Stoudemire are awful defenders, and those guys are going to be on the court for all the big minutes.  A focused Laker team (I know, not a given) brings way too much to the table.  I think the super long layoff has people talking themselves into something that wouldn&#039;t seem plausible if this series had gotten going this week.

The Lakers playing .750 ball against the Suns this year has been dismissed by Alvin Gentry because the Suns were coming off back to backs in the Laker victories (or 2 of the 3). That&#039;s fine, but winning a series requires .571 ball (4 out of 7).

The videos put together by Phillip were awesome (I&#039;m a dork, I eat that x and o stuff up), but I wonder if we are missing the forest for the trees.  The Lakers were up 6, 13, and 2 (in the first quarter) when those plays happened for Phoenix.  What was happening in the game prior to those virtuoso offensive paroxysms?  I&#039;d argue more good than bad for the Lakers.  If it was just a matter of Phoenix running their stuff, then at some point they should have led during the game should&#039;t they?  Of course we know that running one play is never &quot;the answer&quot; in a league with the talent and coaching in the NBA, so I&#039;m left to wonder, What exactly is Phoenix going to repeatedly do to beat what the Lakers are going to repeatedly do?

Remember, in the playoffs it&#039;s not the ability to answer 1st or 2nd questions (how do we stop Nash or Amar&#039;e) but how you answer the 3rd, 4th, and 5th questions.  Nash and Amar&#039;e can both go off and the Lakers can still win.  The Lakers 3, 4, 5 questions from the Suns POV are Lamar, Bynum, and Ron Ron defensively.  What is Phoenix&#039;s answer for them?

Lakers should win.  Phoenix can win.  Given that, I&#039;ll take my chances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all  the talk on AM radio and on the internet (FBG excluded)  part of me is wondering why the Lakers are even suiting up for this series.  The Suns are clearly the most devastating offensive force in the history of history  and they run about 35 deep. (their hot dog vendors have PER&#8217;s that are off the charts)</p>
<p>The Lakers have no business losing this series.  Phoenix is a very good team playing what some consider the best basketball in the league (although everybody seesm awfully quick to dismiss the fact that Orlando has yet to lose a playoff game), but their last game will have been 8 days ago when the ball tips off at the D-town Hoops Dojo (sorry, I&#8217;ve been listening to alot of AM 570 lately)  Who&#8217;s to say they are still playing the best ball in the league?  my take is that as long as they are still playing the BEST BALL in the league, then the Lakers will have their hands full.  The moment they fall below that level, they are going to get hurt.  I really don&#8217;t want to be overly dismissive, but when push comes to shove, I feel that most Laker fans would admit that this is a series the Lakers should win.  yes, they provide  different challenges than the Jazz, but at the end of the day, even Sir Charles admitted, Nash and Stoudemire are awful defenders, and those guys are going to be on the court for all the big minutes.  A focused Laker team (I know, not a given) brings way too much to the table.  I think the super long layoff has people talking themselves into something that wouldn&#8217;t seem plausible if this series had gotten going this week.</p>
<p>The Lakers playing .750 ball against the Suns this year has been dismissed by Alvin Gentry because the Suns were coming off back to backs in the Laker victories (or 2 of the 3). That&#8217;s fine, but winning a series requires .571 ball (4 out of 7).</p>
<p>The videos put together by Phillip were awesome (I&#8217;m a dork, I eat that x and o stuff up), but I wonder if we are missing the forest for the trees.  The Lakers were up 6, 13, and 2 (in the first quarter) when those plays happened for Phoenix.  What was happening in the game prior to those virtuoso offensive paroxysms?  I&#8217;d argue more good than bad for the Lakers.  If it was just a matter of Phoenix running their stuff, then at some point they should have led during the game should&#8217;t they?  Of course we know that running one play is never &#8220;the answer&#8221; in a league with the talent and coaching in the NBA, so I&#8217;m left to wonder, What exactly is Phoenix going to repeatedly do to beat what the Lakers are going to repeatedly do?</p>
<p>Remember, in the playoffs it&#8217;s not the ability to answer 1st or 2nd questions (how do we stop Nash or Amar&#8217;e) but how you answer the 3rd, 4th, and 5th questions.  Nash and Amar&#8217;e can both go off and the Lakers can still win.  The Lakers 3, 4, 5 questions from the Suns POV are Lamar, Bynum, and Ron Ron defensively.  What is Phoenix&#8217;s answer for them?</p>
<p>Lakers should win.  Phoenix can win.  Given that, I&#8217;ll take my chances.</p>
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		<title>By: WhiteLightnin'</title>
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		<dc:creator>WhiteLightnin'</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 08:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not tedious, good read, nice video.

Dude: Well said, can&#039;t wait for rematch against the celtics.

Ken: Your post confused both of us. Or maybe I need to dust off the poli sci books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not tedious, good read, nice video.</p>
<p>Dude: Well said, can&#8217;t wait for rematch against the celtics.</p>
<p>Ken: Your post confused both of us. Or maybe I need to dust off the poli sci books.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 06:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People continually talk about the Lakers size advantage in reference to when they&#039;re on offense. Rightly so.

But the second key point about the Lakers bigs will arise from the defensive half of the floor. Nash can&#039;t get out and run if his teammates can&#039;t rebound and outlet. It&#039;s basketball 101, but so long as the Lakers win the war on the glass, it&#039;s really going to slow the Suns&#039; offense.

Pau, Odom and Bynum&#039;s size advantage will be critical on both ends. So long as the Lakers don&#039;t get stupid and start chucking up early threes, they&#039;ll be OK. They just need to remember that long shots lead to long rebounds, and run-outs for the Suns equate to easy baskets.

L.A. needs to pound it inside until the little guys scream. Then get up and pound it inside again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People continually talk about the Lakers size advantage in reference to when they&#8217;re on offense. Rightly so.</p>
<p>But the second key point about the Lakers bigs will arise from the defensive half of the floor. Nash can&#8217;t get out and run if his teammates can&#8217;t rebound and outlet. It&#8217;s basketball 101, but so long as the Lakers win the war on the glass, it&#8217;s really going to slow the Suns&#8217; offense.</p>
<p>Pau, Odom and Bynum&#8217;s size advantage will be critical on both ends. So long as the Lakers don&#8217;t get stupid and start chucking up early threes, they&#8217;ll be OK. They just need to remember that long shots lead to long rebounds, and run-outs for the Suns equate to easy baskets.</p>
<p>L.A. needs to pound it inside until the little guys scream. Then get up and pound it inside again.</p>
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		<title>By: Ledzep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ledzep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 06:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>San Antonio used the &#039;let Nash get his&#039; strategy in at least one game of one of their epic series from a few years ago - I don&#039;t remember which one it was, but Nash went for 40, I think. You&#039;ve gotta remember that he&#039;s one of the best shooters in the league, if not the best. From what I remember, the Lakers, even in the Smush Parker-Kwame Brown era, had success slowing down the Suns&#039; offense in the playoffs by having their bigs hedge really hard on the pick-and-roll, and then rotate back as quickly as they can once they&#039;ve made Nash reset and go back outside. I think we should be more capable of that strategy now then we were then, with the addition of Pau. As scary as their offense is, if Phil could gameplan well enough to dictate the tempo with that cast of characters, I&#039;m confident in what he can do with this much improved Lakers team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>San Antonio used the &#8216;let Nash get his&#8217; strategy in at least one game of one of their epic series from a few years ago &#8211; I don&#8217;t remember which one it was, but Nash went for 40, I think. You&#8217;ve gotta remember that he&#8217;s one of the best shooters in the league, if not the best. From what I remember, the Lakers, even in the Smush Parker-Kwame Brown era, had success slowing down the Suns&#8217; offense in the playoffs by having their bigs hedge really hard on the pick-and-roll, and then rotate back as quickly as they can once they&#8217;ve made Nash reset and go back outside. I think we should be more capable of that strategy now then we were then, with the addition of Pau. As scary as their offense is, if Phil could gameplan well enough to dictate the tempo with that cast of characters, I&#8217;m confident in what he can do with this much improved Lakers team.</p>
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		<title>By: Apricot</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 06:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the 2006 series, the Lakers did an outstanding job of slowing down the Suns attack through Game 6. My memory is that it mainly involved 

(1) going inside on almost every possession... Kwame Brown (yes) was able to get dunks whenever he could hold on to the ball, and when we missed, transition d was a lot easier; and

(2) passable D clogging up the lane and running out on 3 pointers. Basically forcing them into the midrange game.

2007 was just a mess, with too many injuries, and the choice of smush-farmar for pg.

So compared to 2006, LA has much stronger D (including better PnR defense), and stronger O in the paint. PHX has a tad less firepower and perhaps more dedication to the PnR and more of a rep for D (which seems like a bunch of hooey to me... The stats do not support that PHX has a much improved D compared to the pringles era).

It seems to me that if LA uses the 2006 recipe, pounds it inside and limits the Suns running game, it should be a straightforward series win. If not, then we&#039;ll have some very tense days ahead.

On ORL-BOS. Fascinating series.  ORL beat BOS last year (pretty handily once they focused). This year, ORL has an improved Dwight, much more team focus, more X Factor in VC. BOS has improved Rondo and improved (but still limited) KG, and everything else is worse. I can&#039;t wait to see how it plays out, but I expect ORL to win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the 2006 series, the Lakers did an outstanding job of slowing down the Suns attack through Game 6. My memory is that it mainly involved </p>
<p>(1) going inside on almost every possession&#8230; Kwame Brown (yes) was able to get dunks whenever he could hold on to the ball, and when we missed, transition d was a lot easier; and</p>
<p>(2) passable D clogging up the lane and running out on 3 pointers. Basically forcing them into the midrange game.</p>
<p>2007 was just a mess, with too many injuries, and the choice of smush-farmar for pg.</p>
<p>So compared to 2006, LA has much stronger D (including better PnR defense), and stronger O in the paint. PHX has a tad less firepower and perhaps more dedication to the PnR and more of a rep for D (which seems like a bunch of hooey to me&#8230; The stats do not support that PHX has a much improved D compared to the pringles era).</p>
<p>It seems to me that if LA uses the 2006 recipe, pounds it inside and limits the Suns running game, it should be a straightforward series win. If not, then we&#8217;ll have some very tense days ahead.</p>
<p>On ORL-BOS. Fascinating series.  ORL beat BOS last year (pretty handily once they focused). This year, ORL has an improved Dwight, much more team focus, more X Factor in VC. BOS has improved Rondo and improved (but still limited) KG, and everything else is worse. I can&#8217;t wait to see how it plays out, but I expect ORL to win.</p>
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		<title>By: ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 05:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LIL PAU Who did that guy Machiavelli play for? a Italian team?

Is that a reference to the end of King James from the author of The Prince?

Was he the shooting guard and Da Vinci the point guard?

Was The Art of War a basketball book?

Are you saying Phil uses his theory to outwit other coaches?

Please help me I am so confused</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LIL PAU Who did that guy Machiavelli play for? a Italian team?</p>
<p>Is that a reference to the end of King James from the author of The Prince?</p>
<p>Was he the shooting guard and Da Vinci the point guard?</p>
<p>Was The Art of War a basketball book?</p>
<p>Are you saying Phil uses his theory to outwit other coaches?</p>
<p>Please help me I am so confused</p>
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