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In old school basketball circles, the saying goes that “a playoff series doesn’t really start until the home team loses”. Well tonight the Lakers get their first chance at snaring a road win and truly “starting” this series. And if they’re successful they’ll essentially start and end this series in the same night. After the Lakers took a 2-0 series lead, winning 4 of the next 5 games was going to be next to impossible for OKC. But if the home team loses tonight, winning 4 in a row will not happen. And even though some of the quotes coming out of the Thunder locker room are more focussed on winning one game (rather than winning the series), the Lakers would be best served not resting on the laurels of their series lead and letting a winnable game slip away. And, despite what others will tell you, tonight is a winnable game. Yes, the Thunder crowd will be excited beyond belief and the Thunder’s players will surely feed off this energy and bring an effort level consistent with a wounded animal fighting for survival. But, the Lakers are the better team (even if the disparity is not as large as in a typical #1 vs. #8 match up) and there are steps they can take to win this game.
As, Andy K. over at Land O’ Lakers pointed out, if the visiting team hopes to win they’ll need to control the tempo. That doesn’t mean that the Lakers can’t get out and run, but it does mean that they’ll need to be selective with their choices and not just indiscriminately take the first good shot that is available. It’s been made abundantly clear that the Lakers offense works best when starting on the inside, so slowing the game down and looking to the post first should be the first option. That said, the Lakers can’t just try to force feed our big men. I’ve said this many times before, but the Lakers run a read and react system and should not have predetermined options for possessions drawn up in their heads. Sure, they can run specific options or call out a certain action to initiate their sets. But if that option is taken away, they can not force it – they must move on in their progression/reads and go from there. This is what will lead to offensive success tonight and will hopefully create more opportunities for our post game. As Phil Jackson said himself,
“Well, the idea is not to over-focus on (passing to the post) so it takes the rhythm out of your offense. Take the opportunities when they come, and if the ball is moved and the players move right, we’ll find those passes.”
Carrying that same thought to its next progression, I would not mind seeing aggressive Kobe again tonight. There were many that bemoaned the volume of shots that Kobe took in game 2, but I was not one of them. After reviewing every one of Kobe’s FGA’s through Synergy Sports amazing video scouting service that they’ve made available to fans, I saw that Kobe took mostly good shots within the flow of the offense. I also saw that some of the shots that he did miss were of the wide open variety that I’d have no issue him taking 100 times a game if he was given them. I understand that it can be frustrating looking at a boxscore where Kobe’s FGA’s are more than Gasol and Bynum’s combined. However, that will sometimes be the case in an offense where the defense dictates what shots are available to be taken. I do hope that we move the ball enough where our advantage inside can be exploited more frequently, but the other side of that coin is what I mentioned above – forcing the ball into teammates that aren’t open isn’t the answer. So, as always, I hope that patience prevails and that the Lakers move the ball and take the shots that are open to be taken. If that means that Kobe is shooting a lot, so be it. Kobe is also one of the players that can single handedly turn a raucous home crowd into a public library, so if he’s on his game I think it can go a long way towards limiting what will certainly serve as a source of inspiration for the home team.
And speaking of the home team, if there is one thing the Lakers need to be aware of it’s that role players often play better at home. In the first two games the Lakers have treated Jeff Green, Thabo Sefolosha, and James Harden as complete non-threats. Tonight, these players will need to be given a bit more respect when they are on offense. I not only expect these players to be more aggressive, but I expect them to be a bit more successful in those efforts to score the ball. I’d especially be concerned with Green and Harden as they are good offensive players that just haven’t found their groove on offense to this point in the series; they are better than what they’ve shown. So, if the Lakers are to win this game they will need to pay closer attention to the other Thunder and not just rely on slowing down Westbrook and Durant.
In the end, the keys to winning this game will be no different than the ones used to win the first two. As always, it will come down to execution and for the road team to sustain its energy and focus through what will be an amped up crowd and home team. If the Lakers can take one possession at a time and exploit the match ups that are in their favor, this game will be there for the taking in the closing minutes. Will they have the discipline? Will they treat this game the way they’ve treated the first two? In a way, this game – more than the games at Staples – will show me where the mental sharpness is for this Lakers team. Last season, against every playoff opponent, the Lakers won a road game. They’ll have that chance tonight, lets hope they take advantage of it.
Anonymous says
Warren…Let’s do this!
Burgundy says
Brought over from the previous thread.
I would like to see Farmar and/or Brown get more burn at point guard tonight.
Everyone keeps saying “Well, Farmar and Brown aren’t any better,” but I don’t buy that.
It all depends on who you’re on the floor with and how many minutes you play.
Remember how Farmar played against Houston in Game 4?
Look, Farmar drives me insane with his decision making and lazy defense, but that’s because he’s mentally frustrated. He knows he’s playing behind the worst point guard in the NBA (not worst starting point guard, WORST POINT GUARD), and for some bizarre reason, can’t get any extended burn.
So Farmar comes out, plays disinterested defense, and “goes for his” to try to keep his scoring up.
What do you think his attitude would be if Phil said to him before the game, “You’re starting, and you’ll be playing 30 to 35 minutes?”
You don’t think he’d focus and work his tail off?
You don’t think he’d relax and not be so worried about scoring?
You don’t think he’d work harder on defense, with the additional responsibility that comes with playing big minutes?
Can’t the same be said for Shannon?
“Well, Fish is still the best option” is a myth.
Give Shannon and/or Farmar some extended run with the starters, THEN decide if “Fish is still the best option.”
Jane says
Every other western conference playoff series is at 1-1. It would be fantastic if the Lakers could manage a sweep so they could be the beneficiaries of some additional rest (especially for KB and Drew). Either way, I expect a good effort tonight and hope for a win.
Again, I’ll be keeping my eye on Odom (in terms of offensive agressiveness and working potential mismatches) and on the turnover/pts battle. Hopefully, more of the great defensive plays will result in scores.
Finally, go Bulls (it’s never too early to root against an enemy)!
jeremyLA24 says
Burgundy: Around December/ January time, when everone was fed up with Fish’s decline; alot of people were singing the same exact song as you. The problem is, if you put Farmar or Shannon in the starting line up, you can no longer hide him (Fish) with starters. Imagine the start of the second quarter being:
Fish/ Shannon/ Artest/ LO/ Pau
or if we get in foul trouble or fatigue.
Fish/ Shannon/ Luke/ LO/ Powell
Having our Athletic spark off the bench is our best option. We don’t need “Farmar’s skills” along with our starters. We need them with LO to hold down our second unit.
3ThreeIII says
Brought over from the previous post, for Burgundy:
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There is a glaring problem with being a fan, and an armchair coach.
That problem is that we don’t see the VAST majority of work that goes into being a professional athlete. We don’t get to see the practices, and the film studies, and the team meetings, and the workouts, and the coach’s meetings.
The assumption that players start, get minutes, get the green light in crunch time, etc, based on game performance alone is an obviously false one.
An NBA basketball player will get only 82 regular season games to use as opportunities. That is 3,936 minutes to show that you can do the job.
The NBA regular season lasts 170 calendar days. For the sake of argument, let’s say that most players average six hours of work per day. Practices, film, meetings, time on the plane, shoot-arounds, etc. That’s 61,200 minutes to impress the coaches that you can do the job.
Now, based on Fisher’s results on the floor I must assume that whatever Farmar, Brown, and Vujacic are doing in the work time in between must be fairly unspectacular, or they would get more time in the game.
In short, yeah, maybe one of the young guns hits more shots in game (although, not a lot more, the splits for the year are not that big), but if in every practice they continue to blow coverages, or loaf, or show attitude problems, or whatever else they are doing wrong, why go away from a veteran player who HAS done the job, and done it well enough to win the championship four times?
If you want to be the champ, you have to knock the champ out.
In my opinion Phil Jackson is a lot of things but stupid is not one of them.
***
Go Lakers!
Aaron says
Jane,
You are exactly right. If the Lakers sweep it would be a huge boon for them going forward. Bynum and Kobe could use the time to strengthen.
Taylor says
What if this one is for those who haven’t yet been satisfied with our performance? Will you get it to the team if they get a win in OKC after winning two at home? Will you just allow a win to be a good win?
I’ve been happy after each win thus far, and would be thrilled to grab a third (countdown to 13 left!). If we are able to step up and beat this very talented Thunder team for the third time in a row on their court, I hope it will go a ways to quell some of the fire that has been FB&G lately.
jeremyLA24 says
Taylor, I personally don’t care if we let a 40 pt lead dwindle down to a tied game. As long as we pull out a win, it’s all gravy. Let’s go for 3 in a row baby!~
Tra says
As usual, excellent preview Darius.
Dating back to last year, we’ve lost 4 straight game 3’s, so hopefully, we can snap that skid 2nite. In order for this to occur, we’ll have to slow the game down & play @ our tempo. The Thunder plays @ a frenetic pace in their building (which can seem like Cameron Indoor/Coach K Court), so limiting our turnovers is a must. Also, as stated in the preview, their role players are bound to shoot better in their building. They’ll be more aggressive & feed off of the energy from the crowd. So even though we’ve played excellent defense up to this point, 2nite, our D will have to be exceptional.
On another note, quick question. WHERE IS L.O.? He’s yet to make an impact on the series. 11 points total in 2 games. Are u serious? Being outplayed by Ibaka. We’ll definitely need for him to leave his imprint on the game 2nite in order for us to put the nail in the coffin.
Don says
Agreed. Looking for LO to step up tonight and Kobe to continue to be aggressive. Let’s end this series tonight!
Taylor says
Ah…and courtesy of Mr. Wilbon shouting out on PTI.
This one’s for Jack, Happy Birthday to a true Purple and Gold fan!
Simran says
@ Tra
What do you mean the Lakers have lost 4 straight Game 3s? They lost Game 3 in Orlando last year, but won Game 3 against Denver and Houston. Both those series were tied 1-1 after 2.
Mimsy says
The Thunder are playing their first ever playoff game at home. Their crowd is going to make the ones in Portland, Boston, and Salt Lake City seem pale and quiet by comparison. The players are going to give everything and more, and the calls will go in their favor. The crowd will energize them, they will be confident, and eager to give their fans a great show and a good fight.
I think we can win tonight, but I think it’s going to be very, very difficult. Optimistically, I hope for a sweep in this series and a long rest for our injured guys. Realistically, I suspect we’ll get a split in Oklahoma City and put the series away when we get back home. In either case and either way, I will be standing, pacing, jumping up and down and shout at the TV, watch every moment, and enjoy them all.
The playoffs are here! GO LAKERS!!!
inwit says
This game will show me something if the Lakers come out and really compete, because the track record for this particular team would lead one to believe they will come out soft and unfocused and lose pretty soundly.
Employee#5 says
Not sure if anyone has seen this article yet. Great piece on Josh Powell.
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/columns/story?id=5121114
Makes you want to cheer for the guy even more.
Tra says
@ Simran
You’re absolutely right. I stand corrected.
Lungs says
It’s time for LO to “transform” into the threat we need him to be. We need him to be attacking the basket and not settle for jump shots, let alone 3ptrs. Since we are playing on their turf we of course need to control the tempo. If we are also aggressive towards the basket, we force the refs to reward us w/ trips to the line.
han says
with everything else being the way they’ve been, is it crazy for me to think that all it will take for us to go up 3-0 is just for fish, ron and LO to each shoot like 40% on the night? like a nice burst of good shooting to end the 3rd, to open up things for the bigs, stretch out the lead, and win it in the end with D?
http://polynorthamerica.com/WINS.jpg
Rich says
The main thing I want to see tonight out of our players is to use a head fake, use the pump fake to get the on ball defender up in the air. Yes OKC collapses in the paint but by using a fake to get the initial defender in the air you increase the possibility of getting the foul call or making the basket.
If we can control the first five minutes of the 1st qtr than I won’t be so worried about tonight’s game. Obviously the crowd will be into the game but that can also play against the home team; I truly believe the pressure is on OKC, not LA. It’s their first playoff home game, the players are going to want to play well and this can lead to rushed shots, long jumpers and poor execution. Not saying OKC will play poorly but just saying too much energy can be a bad thing.
Here’s looking for us to take game 3, GO LAKERS!
ken says
I am very sad. For the first time in 40 years a bet aganist the LAKERS!
sorry I could not help myself.
OKC only favored by 3.5 points in the biggest game ever for OK basketball.
I see OKC by 9 and I am pretty good at this.
Still have Lakers in 6.
By the way even though they lost Dallas really moves the ball around and has three really good outside shooters.
I see Lakers and Dallas in the WCF. Good series with Lakers winning in 7 and Mark Cuban having a spaz attack at Staples.
See ya all!
If I get a extra ticket for game 5 Aaron I will invite you. Can you imagine you and me yelling at Fisher from row 3!!!!!!!!!!
ken says
Opps I meant game 5. Not driving to OKC!
ken says
Stupid here. Game 6 6 6. I meant
Bobji says
@15
Good article, to be honest I had no idea J Powell had much of an effect on the team. mentally I compare him to Turiaf whose lively antics and bench support were easier to notice and are beyond comparison. That piece makes me appreciate mr Powell a lot more though.
Does anybody see LO having a breakout game this series? Normally he has a length/quickness advantage with opposing power forwards (against the Jazz & Spurs especially), but Jeff Green is a similar enough player to cancel out his normal advantages imo. Of course, when LO decides he has to score, he does it pretty well.
Go Lakers!
Jaybird says
@20 It would be a shame to waste such great seats to try to get in one of our own player’s heads during a Playoff game. Unless of course you meant that you would yell words of encouragement for our boy Fish.
Anyway, following the Cavs-Bulls and I’d be more excited about the Bulls winning this if I felt they had a chance in the series.
Here’s hoping our bigs get plenty of touches tonight and our wings pick up their shooting %s.
ken says
Jaybird My yell would go something like this:
No, no, no Fish doen’t shooooooooooo
Ah nice shot Fisher!!!
Jaybird says
Haha. I’d probably do the same.
Zephid says
Watching Crabs-Bulls and man, if Chris Bosh goes to Chicago, they are going to wreck some skulls next season. Derek Rose is just so unstoppable in the PNR, and imagine if he had Bosh rolling off the pick instead of Joakim Noah.
Taylor says
I wonder how the Cle fans over at (Cle blog?) are doing. Darius, do you follow any of the commenting around the league or just the substance of the other blogs? Just curious if their fan-base is as dramatic as ours.
Give em hell Bulls.
This LeBron guy seems to be overrated (joke)…I mean, they put him at center for the last 5min? But seriously, let’s hope the Bulls got all of the home court mojo out for both them and the Thunder. Starting to feel the excitement of Laker basketball, we need to keep the strong 1Q trend alive, quiet the fans early, keep em down through halftime, demoralize and end the game by 6min mark in the 3rd. 4Q we can all just talk about Ken losing money ; )
Ken: This game is bigger than the Blake Griffin era?! Haha.
Readdyyy….break!
ken says
Boy do I like Kert H as a point guard. Boy!
ken says
James is overated? I don’t think you thought that one out.
DTM_ says
Oh no, Bulls! Don’t choke!
james says
no OT pretty please
Joel B. says
I hope the Cleveland games doesn’t go into overtime because I would like to see the start of the Laker game.
Lakers have to be patient on the offensive end of the floor. OKC is not going to play much better than they did on Tuesday. The Lakers absolutely can play much better.
ken says
Taylor i can’t lose. Lakers win I win Lakers lose I win.
they call that a win, win!
Simonoid says
What a play by Deng.
Simonoid says
LOL LeBron just got mauled but no whistle.
Simonoid says
Who would’ve guessed, Brad Miller is their best clutch free throw shooter.
Simonoid says
The Cavaliers have some dead-eye shooters out there. God damn, I really hope they go cold in Orlando again. They’re really, really scary the way they’re shooting ATM.
Joel B. says
36. Now he know’s what its like to be Kobe.
Palani says
Go Bulls! lol
Taylor says
Wow…that is a LOT of blue.
The Fish/Ron Show!!
glove32 says
Bulls beat the Cavs, Go Lakers take care of business
emh101 says
Ron Ron!
Simonoid says
ROFL Artest running next to Fisher on a 2-on-1, takes a quick look at him, and decides not to involve him. Good choice for the layup.
Simonoid says
Amazing start.
BOO says
Good start. Nice to see. I like very much. WOW!
Let’s keep those OKC fans standing.
By the way, the Lakers also passed out free T-shirts at Staples, but of course, fashion is more important in LA. My cousin got me one from Game 1, I love it.
emh101 says
Lakers look sharp. Let’s hope they can keep this up.
AusPhil says
That might be the happiest 2 and a half minutes of Laker basketball for me this season!
Josh says
NICE start. Lakers looking NASTY.
james says
now thats how you take a crowd out of a game
Zephid says
The Thunder are nervous and stagnant right now. They’re trying to free up Durant but Artest is really sticking with him. Otherwise the Thunder just aren’t running their sets effectively. Great defensive start by the Lakers leading to easy scores.
Simonoid says
Even Fisher’s horrible pull-up long two swishes. Now that’s when you know things are going real well for the Lakers.
Mark says
These OKC fans are giving me the BLUES!!
Nice run by the Lakers to start the game, but of course we’re talking about the Lakers here, so….
wil says
we have no where to go but down…
Jaybird says
AusPhil, my thoughts exactly!
Mark says
47, agreed!
I was jumping during that 10-0 run.
3ThreeIII says
Well, so… That seemed, perfect.
SWEET.
If the Lakers keep their foot on the gas, they will be demonstrating that killer sense that all championship teams have.
Cavs lost to the Bulls, so there is still a bit of hope there, forlorn and lonely though that hope is…
thisisweaksauce says
How was that a horrible shot? Fisher was open.
jeremyLA24 says
Holly crap, It’s like we’re playing Duke (statdium more than talent wise)! great 10-0 start. We look like Champions for now.
What a day if we keep this up. I’m happy with watching Chi Town come through but I’ll be 1,000,000 X’s happier if we win tonight. (in any fashion but commaning would be nice)
Joel B. says
47. I was thinking the same thing.
Forced 3 turnovers, Converted in transition, Fisher passed up an PUJIT threw the ball inside got it bad and nailed jumper in rhythm, a total of 3 shots at the rim. And ron nailed a jumper. The only thing that could’ve made that first few minutes better was a two and one break with Pau and Andrew capped off with a lob off the backboard from Andrew to Artest.
Zephid says
For all the crap we give Kobe about his defensive roaming, he plays great help defense. Everytime we have a screen roll in which a big has to show and recover, Kobe always backs up to cover his man.
Palani says
wow, 7-7 100%FG
Simonoid says
And our favourite whipping boy gets our first miss with an airball on a bad pull-up. OMG. >.>
Simonoid says
See, in cases like this, Fish – take it when Gasol hands it to you off a double team. Don’t dribble, wait for Westbrook to recover, and try a Kobe.
Simonoid says
Ok watch out now, Harden in. This guy might really heat up at home.
thisisweaksauce says
Loving how Pau and Drew are playing with each other.
Anonymous says
This is the best offense I’ve seen in months : )
Simonoid says
Right on cue. Ugh.
Joel B. says
No communication defensively and they are being a bit impatient offensively in the past few possessions. The lakers have to settle down a bit and slow the game down. Overall good start.
Zephid says
The key to keeping home crowds out of the game is to shoot free throws. Free throws are boring and unexciting, and if you shoot a lot of them as an opposing players, the crowd will quickly lose whatever excitement they’re bottling up.
While the long shots going in has been nice, we need to get the ball into the lane to draw fouls and keep the crowd out of this game, because they’re just ready to go berserk.
Josh says
Kobe’s jumper is looking just a bit flat/short so far though.
Lakers Fan says
Kobe jacking up shots again..
there was only 1 3 pointer that was within the flow.
of his 2 misses: a long 3 with a defender in his face…and a long 2 with a defender in his face. STOP KOBE. Let someone who is 4-4 (Drew) or someone who has 3 assists (Pau) do the work!
emh101 says
Go Fish!
Taylor says
Kobe sitting? Any ideas?
Simonoid says
LMAO @ Doug Collins: Fisher’s been shooting the three decently, it’s the two that he’s struggling shooting.
Yeah no kidding, all his layup attempts.
Simonoid says
About keeping track of James Harden…
james says
were hitting them know but dont fall in love with jumpers
Mark says
I didn’t know JR Smith is playing on a Thunder uniform.
ken says
what the heck is Phil doing, where is Kobe?
Phil is coaching in reverse.
Is Phil working for TNT or the Lakers?
BH says
Odom continues to prove he is the most overpaid, overrated player in the league.
joits says
last couple of mins weren’t that great… too many outside jumpers and not enough post entry passes. seems like the lakers have been nervous about passing it in. and OKC doing a great job of fronting pau.
Joel B. says
Smh on how they closed that quarter.
74. I think since Durant was out Phil most likely figured he could buy Kobe some minutes. Kobe will probably start the second come in around the 9 minute mark.
Zephid says
The moment the Thunder put up even the slightest amount of resistance, all the whiners come flying out of the woodwork.
Rich says
People complaining already? Can we not be happy with how well that qtr went? We were able to come put in hostile terriory and take a lead in the 1st when some thought the Thunder would be the ones coming out swinging.
Zephid says
We need to get the ball inside. Stop dribbling around the perimeter.
Josh says
Seriously…stop looking for the blowout. We want a win, we don’t have to crush OKC by 30 and it’s simply not going to happen anyway. OKC are not scrubs.
joits says
uh… the lakers aren’t playing that well despite the score. the played good for the first 5 mins. but since then they’ve gone jump shot crazy. they’re treating pau like mbenga… as if he’s not an offensive option.
harold says
looks good so far, as far as stats go.
you know we can’t lose when Fisher is productive 😉
james says
bynum please!!!
thisisweaksauce says
What the f*ck. We start sucking in the second quarter because we won’t get the ball inside. We go away with what works in the 1st quarter. POUND THE BALL INSIDE. GASOL NEEDS TOUCHES.
thisisweaksauce says
Oh, and the Thunder start playing much better too.
3ThreeIII says
We did EXACTLY what we needed to do in that first quarter. We planted the seed of doubt in the Robber Barons, and their home crowd, that home court matters at all.
We went a little flat when we took Bynum and Fisher out.
Bynum is 4-4, Gasol 1-5. Keep going inside!
I also like how we are defending their dribble penetration. Good fouls, and make them earn it at the line. Don’t let them get too much rhythm.
ken says
Stern looks like Kermit the frog
joits says
yes… we want lamar to get involved… but not through 3s! hehe
Mark says
Main concern right now is the “rebounding” part. 13-20 is not gonna work.
emh101 says
I really don’t need to see David Stern’s face when he’s talking.
Taylor says
Fast Breaking pt. 1
Zephid says
Farmar has completely blown 2 fast breaks so far. He needs either pass earlier or stop jumping so early on the drive.
Joel B. says
Kobe looks bad. His shot is falling short and he looks extremely slow on the defensive end.
Joel B. says
Can Odom finish with his right hand?
emh101 says
We’ve turned into the Orlando Magic with all the threes.
AusPhil says
Pretty happy with the game thus far, but I would really love to see us get to the line. As was mentioned previously, hitting a lot of FTs takes crowds out of the game, and this is a crowd that we’d like to keep calm.
joits says
no one on the lakers seems to know how to run fast breaks… and what’s sad was that most of them were situations in which the point guard had the ball. maybe we should have pau running the break…
ken says
emh it makes sense to me since we are 26th in the nba in 3 point %
smart?
Kobemoney says
Am I the only one who thinks Gasol and Bynum don’t fight for the ball in the post? Would it be too much for them to Fight for position and DEMAND the rock!
ken says
Kobe looks like he can t run.
Simonoid says
Nice shot by Kobe to silence the crowd.
Zephid says
Kobe is feelin it now
emh101 says
Okay. Kobe has a free pass to shoot threes.
Drew says
remember when Bynum used to have hops like ibaka?
AusPhil says
At least a couple of players are hitting that outside shot today!
harold says
Kobe missing every 2 pointer he throws up.
Thank god he’s made 4/5 threes.
.. and Durant has 3 fouls now. Exploitable? Probably not… but still.
Zephid says
whoa, anyone notice that Phoenix is pounding the bejesus out of Portland? 32-16 end of the 1st.
3ThreeIII says
Great job by Fisher on those last two fast breaks.
Got to admit, he does play very well against the break.
jeremyLA24 says
Kobe Bryant is unconscious.
Mark says
For all the bitching ken, Kobe probably heard you.
Aaron says
Fisher answered his critics at least for one half. Doing everything he used to be able to do. Play composed, make open shots, and play with heart. It is the difference between us up 6 and down 6.
Kenny says
i dont get it..Artest used to be such a beast on offense in Indiana, sacromento, and even houston. How come ever since he came to the Lakers he cant even make OPEN shots?
ken says
Drew. no when was that? I remember when he was 7’1′.
joits says
can’t fight it… today the lakers are going with the live with the 3, die by the 3 strategy.
Mark says
So far we have 0 free throws, I repeat, 0 free throws, -9 on rebounds and -6 on off. boards.
So, for the guys out there wondering why the game is close, there it goes for you.
emh101 says
The Lakers are really struggling to get it into the post.
Sedale says
I’m still waiting for a free throw to come our way!
Kobemoney says
Kobe scored the last 9 for the Lakers. He will have 17 at the half!
Simonoid says
Lakers are playing pretty well; I’m surprised we’re up by only 4. I think if we continue our play, this one should be in the bag.
ken says
this is some of the most one sided calls I
have seen.
harold says
wow, Fisher on the receiving end of a dumb foul?
joits says
playoff record for most three’s in a playoff game is 42 by dallas back in 03… c’mon lakers! we can crush that record!!!!
harold says
Kobe wanted that dagger before the end of the half… would’ve made it a 10 point game.
Simonoid says
If our shots fell today, this would’ve been a 20-point blowout. As long as we continue playing offense like this, we’ll be fine for the rest of this series.
Taylor says
Westbrook reminds me a lot of Leandro Barbosa, in looks and style…very very similar.
ken says
wheeeeeeo.
Walton?
Now there is $5 million well spent.
Nice half guys.
james says
19 threes?, really need to do better getting it inside
glove32 says
Good half by the Lakers, they did not let the Thunder get any momentum
P. Ami says
Never mind all the whiners. I think the Lakers showing up on the road, a must win game for a very dangerous opponent, and sitting with a 7PT lead at half-time is half way to a huge statement.
For a bunch of fans who have seen their team lose 1 series in the last 8 (I guess nine counting this one) it seems there are lots of us who do not understand the ebb and flow of the playoffs. Act like you’ve been there before.
the other stephen says
on defining what constitutes the best player, kenny smith says, “you know what? you can compare apples and oranges…but sometimes an orange cures scurvy.”
hahaha.
Tra says
Excellent 1st half defensively ….. We’re shooting way too many 3’s for my liking ….. Fisher’s been superb ….. Where you at L.O.? ….. It would be good to jump them immediately starting the 3rd quarter. Just for the sake of keeping the crowd out the game & not allowing them to get any momentum ….. More interior offense for the 2nd half & defense, defense & then more DEFENSE
joits says
i still think the lakers can play much better than they have. if they want to shoot 3s all day… then fine… but at least have the ball go inside first…
VoR says
I came into this game expecting the Lakers to get blown out. So far I am pleasantly suprised, but the Lakers need to get the ball inside if they want to finish this thing.
Durant is 2/10 . I guess he hasn’t quite solved Artest yet.
glove32 says
Great decision by Kobe to find Gasol for the dunk
AusPhil says
I enjoyed the grit there, fighting hard after Green cut it to a 4 point lead.
Taylor says
Slow down the game, keep the crowd out of it, recipe for success. And try to get to the line! Smart basketball
Joel B. says
Come on Lakers get a stop out of this timeout. That will deflate OKC.
The Dude Abides says
The team is playing well and competing hard. Fish is playing within himself, for the most part. Now this is nauseating, interviewing the man who helped steal the Sonics away from Seattle.
Joel B. says
That was on Artest
ken says
my god did westbrook make fish look like dead man walking.
joits says
you always see fisher do the thing where he gets ready for the screen and the guy he’s guarding just goes all the way to the rim…
james says
odom is KILLING us on both ends tonight
inwit says
The Thunder have to be the best 8 seed ever.
AusPhil says
And after my praise, it’s all the way back to 4 points again!
Really need to watch the fouling situation. This is the 2nd quarter in a row that we’ve been in the penalty pretty early. And OKC can hit their FTs. We need to be the ones getting the line, not the other way around.
Joel B. says
This game is like clockwork. Lakers get up ten, OKC cuts it to 4, Lakers get up 10, OKC comes right back. Lakers need to be able to sustain their production a bit better.
Joel B. says
149. I’ll probably give that to the ’99 Knicks
Kobemoney says
Shouldn’t we have more block shots since we have the advantage in height? Smaller OKC guys are killin us. Still we pull this one out with Kobe & Gasol.
Batman and Robin will win it for the Lakers no worry.
Sedale says
OKC has MISSED more free throws than the Lakers have ATTEMPTED
Tyler says
Odom is taking about 8 seconds to make a decision when he has the ball at the top of the key. It is killing the flow of the offense and draining the shot clock.
AusPhil says
Yes! Second shooting foul of the night in favour of LA.
Just a shame it was LO who drew it!
joits says
i honestly don’t know why westbrook just doesn’t try to break down fisher every play… no one can guard that guy…
emh101 says
Ugh. Too many threes again.
harold says
Durant with 15 boards.
He’s a player alright.
Let’s see if we can keep the lead coming out of this quarter.
BH says
Sorry Shannon Brown, but if you airball an open 3 point shot, and you aren’t over 7 feet tall…you can’t play in the NBA!!!
ken says
Phil you old man get fisher out og there and get kobe back in. or try calling a timeout my god.
Zephid says
2 absolutely horrible shots, one by Brown, one by Fisher. Absolutely horrible. Go into the god damn post.
Joel B. says
Okay Phil don’t ever go with rotation taking kobe out with 3+ minutes left in the first and third quarters.
Joel B. says
The lakers just can’t close quarters
BOO says
We need to keep the crowd out of the game. Right now, with the OKC crowd on its feet, is when the Thunder is the most dangerous. Younger players feed off the crowd’s emotion a lot more than veterans, as vets like Kobe can play well even without a supporting crowd.
james says
odom do something please
Taylor says
That’s four points LO has left on the floor at the end of quarters. He’s so good at driving from the top, he hasn’t made that move once in the series.
1 more quarter to play even for a W.
AusPhil says
So, a 1 point lead going into the 4th. Not an ideal situation after that beautiful start to the game! But if we can play the way we’ve shown (in patches) today, we should still be able to close this one out. It would be very nice to be up 3-0.
ken says
when you have lo and fisher on the court we are in trouble.
nice job phil you let them back in the game.
great!
Tyler says
Someone should remind Lamar that he is an awful 3 point shooter. I think he forgets sometimes.
Joel B. says
This is ridiculous
Joel B. says
Put in Josh Powell.
ken says
lamar is the dumbest player in the league
harold says
let’s hope we weather their early 4q rush…
joits says
i think this will be one of those quarters where kobe will take every single shot…
chearn says
@173 I concur!
ken says
joits who do you want to shoot odom, artest?
BOO says
Nice one, Bynum. WOW!
Joel B. says
Chownior
Remember our talk about the 7’11 defense that Lamar plays. Thats what I was talking about, He never intend to get into any kind of defensive position, he immediately throws his hands in the air and that was a shot he could’ve blocked, but couldn’t because he immediately gave up on the play. He’s the only lakers that uses that type of individual defense as a first resort.
Tyler says
Kobe missed Farmar standing under the basket with nobody within 8 feet of him because he needed to shoot it 1 on 3.
the other stephen says
please get bynum back into the flow. i feel like he’s the only person who can provide a breath of fresh air at this point.
joits says
ken… i want the lakers to run their offense, go into the post… give pau some shots… bynum… whoever’s open in the flow of the offense.
notice that the lakers are tentative in their offense while oklahoma isn’t…
AusPhil says
We need to hold out against this push OKC are making. If we can break even for the first 5 minutes or so, I would think that our experience & savvy should get us over the line.
Fingers crossed anyhow!
ken says
i agree joits I was trying to be silly
Andreas G. says
ken: You should seriously see someone about all that negativity. It seems like you can’t enjoy stuff like normal people do – I feel bad for you.
Anonymous says
Come on people,what is this?FB&G was such a great site,every comment was constructive ,since Kurt left that is not the case anymore.Moderator should do a better job.
Don says
You could tell Phil was trying to get Gasol to take over when the thunder had made a run, the building was going crazy and Kobe was on the bench. But Pau didn’t call for the ball or fight in the post. He set inconsequential screens and reversed to weak side that led to bad shots. I’d like to see him try to take over more in those hostile situations.
3ThreeIII says
10 Laker Free Throws to 27 Robber Baron Free Throws?
Seems bad to me…
This might be a “Die by Kobe” game…
Hopefully we don’t waste the opportunity. Basketball is a game of runs, and the team that has the run at the end of a close game wins.
Defense will be what brings us back, and good ball movement on offense.
emh101 says
Kobe’s shot has not been the best this quarter.
Joel B. says
jesus, kobe’s selfishness just lost this game for the lakers. Kobe is being selfish on the defensive end to, why is he trying to guard Durant.
BOO says
Go inside. Stop shooting long jumpshots. Kobe, we don’t need hero mode yet!
BH says
Put Kobe on the bench, he doesn’t get it.
The Dude Abides says
I think Phil is telling Pau to shoot the ball. He had OKC set up for a lefty hook and he passed to Fish on the wing instead. Then we got rushed and Kobe had to shoot a three to beat the shot clock.
Tyler says
PASS THE BALL KOBE!!!!!!
Also as soon as FIsher gets back in Westbrook goes off. I have no idea what Phil sees that says Fish should always be on Westbrook. Westbrook doesn’t use his strength to be effective, he is 100% quickness.
harold says
Why can’t the our team be a little bit more patient and not play like we’re behind 10?
I think our guards, especially feel some sort of pressure to get the job done early and go home, when they should be patiently probing the defense.
Trust our defense, and be patient on offense.
joits says
disgusting…
Don says
Kobe should stop going ISO on Durant. Should instead put him in PnR situations that he’s not used to defending. Make him move his feet so he can’t use his length as effectively.
Aaron says
Darius,
Remember our little discussion about who the better one on one defender is? And remember when I said Durant would be put on Kobe to close games?
emh101 says
Our players are certainly putting Kobe in a tough position.
Joel B. says
ONCE AGAIN TERRIBLE EXECUTION DOWN THE STRETCH.
AusPhil says
Wow – this got ugly quickly. Need to stop the bleeding REALLY fast or this one’s done… at least we know we have players who CAN win from here.
Adrian says
The problem with Kobe is he doesn’t mix things up.. Jab step, jab step, fake, jump shot.. Why not drive to keep the defender guessing..
james says
i thought kobe had a bit more trust in his team mates then this
joits says
kobe looks tired… and old. the mind is willing but the body isn’t…
harold says
Adrian, i think he does that more to get himself in rhythm than to shake the defender.
We just need a stop or two to come out with a W.
Not offense, defense. I hope our players produce some magic.
Joel B. says
Sorry to bring this up but I’ve noticed a glaring difference between the lakers this season and cleveland this season. Cleveland goes from being blown out to only losing by 2. Lakers go from up 10 to losing by 6. This is what I hate to see.
Josh says
Looks like the Lakers fell apart while I was in the kitchen making Spätzle…nicht gut!
BOO says
We have experience and two of the clutchest players of this decade. Let’s do this.
Josh says
WHERE WAS THE FOUL ON FISHER THERE???? TERRIBLE CALL.
3ThreeIII says
That was NOT a foul on Fisher… He never touched Westbrook…
I know this is not a popular thing to say, because “good teams play well despite the referees”, but can we get referees that are not so obviously the enemy?
Joel B. says
Gasol, Gasol, Gasol come on
BH says
Was that Crawford on the Fisher foul call? Time for that guy to have a stroke or something so they stop using him in playoff games. The man is poison.
harold says
Was just about to type that we had two redemptions in one shot when Fisher assisted a Lamar three.
Promptly, Fisher fouls Westbrook to cancel that three. (from the comments i’m guessing it’s not as bad as it sounds… on telecast)
Now Gasol has a chance to redeem himself from the line (for his FT shooting, not his performance overall).
If we win, we’ve survived a 25 pt, 19 rebound performance by Durant.
BOO says
Fisher had his hand on Westbrook, and Westbrook was aware enough to go up and shoot. That’s why Fisher didn’t argue the foul.
Josh says
joits: “The Spirit is willing, but the Flesh is weak…”
emh101 says
This will be an interesting last minute.
AusPhil says
Alright then – now just get a stop out of this timeout, run the offense, and win the game.
Sounds so simple put like that. These guys certainly know how to raise my heart rate!
ken says
Refs have been so one sided.
Anon says
kobe needs to stop chucking.
joits says
it’s soooo over
BOO says
KOBE BRYANT WITH THE SASSY MOVE!
Is that what Marv Albert said?
We’re down two. Foul, two freethrows. If OKC misses one, it’s Mamba time. Wait and see. It isn’t over yet.
harold says
Another 30% shooting night for Kobe. We’re really living and dying by a few percentage points here.
Let’s see how clutch Durant is…
Joel B. says
It’s a wrap, very very disappointing. Lakers needed two big stops what happen fisher commits a touch foul and-1. Artest fouls Durant. Kobe launches another 3 over a 6’10 guy. The lakers just cannot execute in crunch time. It’s pitiful.
AusPhil says
If only Kobe had some more triples in him. He seems to have used them all up in that early burst…
So a 5 point loss after being up 10 in the 3rd. It is a disturbing thing to see, given that we’re meant to be a team that has the experience to execute down the stretch.
Here’s hoping game 4 is more pleasant!
BOO says
Was that our last timeout?
Josh says
Well, I don’t think any of us were counting on a sweep so…I’m still calling Lakers in 5.
joits says
what could have been a sweep or 5 game series has just turned into a brutal 7 game series.
Adrian says
Let’s see what Gasol has to say after this..
DB says
Turning point was that dunk by Westbrook in the 3rd quarter.
glove32 says
Disappointing loss for the Lakers, they possibly let one get away. Kobe’s shooting and the number of fg attempts will be a hot topic.
Don says
@Aaron,
I don’t think Durant did anything special, Kobe just made it too easy for him. Let’s see how Durant defends some PnR’s or pin downs before we decide if he is the better defender.
ken says
There is a big difference in being negative and knowing what your talking about.
I feel bad winning my bet.
Good news I have Lakers winning game 4.
Closer then I thought it would be. Kobe’s shot selection hurt us.
oh well onward we go.
thanks for playing.
zirk says
I think the turning point was when phil took kobe out with like 3 minutes left in the 3rd when we were up 8 or 9, I believe. I know he played like absolute crap in the 4th, but he was playing well in the 3rd when he was pulled. Then OKC went on a run to close the qtr, got within 1, and gained all that confidence and momentum going into the 4th.
Zephid says
No more moderation for me. You guys can have this whine space to yourselves. Reading through all these comments make me yearn for the times when people actually made substantial points mid-game.
Good game by the Lakers, they just came up short because they couldn’t get stops on the last 4 possessions when they really needed them.
Burgundy says
Lakers shot too many threes, but part of that comes from it being so obvious that the fix was in.
I mean, the refs didn’t even try to pretend.
You could tell because they came out wearing THUNDER jersies.
I hate the NBA sometimes.
P. Ami says
Adrenaline should have made this a game where the Lakers were chasing the youngsters after the first quarter. Instead the Lakers had a good first half and the youngsters responded really well. I’m impressed that OKC managed to overcome after the Lakers took some short lived double digit leads.
Durant is going to be a blessing for all NBA fans for years to come. We definitely saw the home court advantage given, as it should be.
As a Lakers fan, I don’t like the final score. As an NBA fan, I love the character shown by the Thunder. I still think the Champs take this series in 6 and that the next biggest challenge will be in the Finals.
3ThreeIII says
I think the 10 point start hurt the Lakers. Referees always seem to call a game in favor of preventing blow-outs..
Still if the Lakers jack up 31 3PT attempts they have to expect to lose.
How much more can it be said? Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum, two of the best low post scorers in the league, are on your team and you are still tossing up crap long twos and last second threes.
On the other hand, the Free Throw disparity (34 to 12!) was the difference tonight.
Every year the NBA has one or two games in the playoffs like this where the referees don’t even bother pretending to be unbiased. Clay Bennett gets the Game 6 he was hoping for. There will be no 4 or 5 game series this year. The NBA needs the money too badly.
lil' pau says
i love that the lakers talk repeatedly about not shooting so many outside shots as they lead to long rebounds and easy transition baskets, then go out and chuck up 3 after 3…
credit to the thunder for great interior D, but this Lakers team is its own worst enemy so much of the time…
Joel B. says
Zephid, I got my whiny comment out.
But how in the world was this a good game by the lakers?
LJAY says
I’m aware that Kobe is our guy if we going to take it all, but when the stat sheet goes with Kobe 10/29 and the rest of the team 28/55 (Pau and Drew went for 13/21) there’s something to be said in the locker room.
Considering the fact that OKC shot 22 more FT than us, a 5 point loss, is not the worst thing that could have happen to us. (By the way, still waiting for the NBA to put an honest promo with ” NBA where refs happen “
Andreas G. says
Zephid: +1
jedinac says
#
Adrian wrote on April 22, 2010 at 9:20 pm
Let’s see what Gasol has to say after this..
spot on!It’s just sad how we do not use Pau as much as we should!
ray says
Zephid,
I didn’t get to watch the game cuz of the gym. Can you tell me how Aaron will say Fisher lost this game for us?
———-
I’m just basing this on the box score, but can someone tell me how Kobe’s shot selection was today? 10/29, 4/11 from threes. I love his 8 assists, but his shot selection looks really terrible. Can someone tell me what he shot on jumpshots this time around?
Finally, did we get the ball in the post at all in the fourth quarter? Pau looks like he played a good game (and even hit two clutch free throws that I’m sure people were hoping he’d miss so they can call him soft) with his 7/12 shooting, 3/4 from the line, 15 rebounds, 2 blocks and 6 assists. Are we getting him the ball more?? Or did we go away from it! I can’t wait for Darius’ post game! Pau is absolutely our best player right now.
T. Rogers says
236) – Durant took more free throws than the entire Laker team. Also, its crazy to think Kobe took 29 shots and didn’t get to the line one time. Granted about a third of those shots were threes, but still. Twenty nine shot attempts and no one fouled him? Not even once?
It is what it is. The Lakers just have to dust themselves off and look to game four.
It would be nice to see Gasol and Bynum get more attention from their teammates. I supsect this will continue to be an issue for this team.
Joel B. says
This wasn’t a good game at all. The lakers played a decent first half. And fell apart in the second half. They couldn’t score 46 points, didn’t defend gave up 58 points. They went away from the post, Kobe jacked up shot after shot, Lamar was a no show. They fouled too much. And most importantly they couldn’t sustain a lead. Not to mention they were outrebounded 53-39. Thats inexcusable. This was a terrible game.
The only good points about this game was Gasol and the lakers overall shooting percentage (which wasn’t that good) 45%
eric says
dont think my first post went through…
lakers blew this game, but we gotta move on to the next one. here’s what i’d like to see
-as always, more gasol and bynum
-kobe getting to the line and having an efficient shooting night
-lamar odom showing up
-less 3s (or at least hit your open 3s)
-crash the defensive glass
-more gasol and bynum
lesha says
wow… think the million dollar question is how kobe responds after this game. honestly, one could say after looking at the box score that he kinda shot us out of the game. will be interesting to see if he comes out trying even harder, or relaxes a little to save energy for the end of the game. thought lamar would respond better to phils comments aswell…
Snoopy2006 says
David Stern to Phil Jackson and Stan Van Gundy: “Make my day.” Someone’s been watching too many Westerns.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AjdhQbziIfuD3PIo4qJ2mt68vLYF?slug=ap-stern-officiating
I agree with 236, I’m a little surprised at how this game played out. I (and the rest of the world) thought the Thunder would come out strong, and instead we led most of the way and the Thunder showed some great resiliency.
Momentum is a strange, wondrous thing. How many times would Russell Westbrook hit that standstill 3 with a hand in his face? Yet somehow, because of the way the tide was turning, because of the way Westbrook was playing, I knew even that shot was going in.
Snoopy2006 says
Also, I appreciate the way Kobe played down the stretch. We constantly want superhuman performances, but I loved the patience he showed. He ran the plays and found his teammates, and the bonehead plays came from other players today.
Loss or not, it was a good sight to see Kobe catch fire from downtown. So many timely threes.
Artest has become one of my favorite players because of his constant effort, but he still looks awful offensively. Holds the ball too long, just waits. But worst of all is his hesitation. He’ll have a 3 and wait a few seconds until the defender recovers, then dribble and take a stepback 3.
(Sorry, edit function isn’t working for me).
Joel B. says
Ray
We were having the discussion about Kobe’s 28 shots in game 2. And I was the one saying that kobe’s 28 wasn’t bad. Well Kobe’s shot selection was absolutely horrendous in the second half. He launched up contest long jumper after long jumper. What made it worse it was jumpers over the long contested shots over Durant.
The lakers wasted a 5/8 and 4/5 from 3 game from Derek Fisher. Credit to OKC for not giving up and being discouraged. But the Lakers were terrible. I mentioned earlier that every time the lakers went up 8-10 points OKC came back and lakers just start launching shots. It’s just one game but it’s disappointing how the lakers continue to play in crunch time. I can’t remember the last time lakers got a good shot in crunch time.
3ThreeIII says
“Stern said such comments were “corrosive” to the product that the league is putting on the floor. ”
Um… the complaints about the referees are not corrosive, it is the referees that are corrosive.
Joe says
I didnt watch the game but I predicted the Thunder to win this one. Just from looking at the box score I think we can all agree that Kobe needs to take less shots. I can see that there was probably too much Kobe isolation in this game, and we cant rely on that. I think we will pull it out in game 4, though it will be close and I wont be surprised if the Thunder tie the series.
Anonymous says
19 playoff games and this game had the largest free throw attempt discrepancy. (22).
Franky says
Thoughts on the game:
1. It’s almost impossible to win a basketball game when your opponent shoots 22 more free throws then you do. Yet, we only lose by 5.
2. Ron hit some shots tonight, which is very encouraging.
3. I didn’t see us forgetting Pau/Bynum so much as just not being able to get the ball into them. So many times there is look down low and then a swing to another guard on the other end. We discussed today how the passing on this team is poor and this is just another effect.
4. We got out rebounded I think by 14, and only lost by 5.
5. They shot how many more free throws then us?
Dick Barnett says
Fisher didn’t lose this game, neither did Bryant (although he still doesn’t get the fact that basketball is played with five guys), or Odom, or Jackson, or anyone else on the Lakers.
The Thunder are a much quicker, and faster team, you could especially see it on defense. The Lakers just couldn’t get off a decent shot, they were swarming all over them down the stretch.
The Lakers have to hope their experience and savy can get them past these guys, because they are certainly not going to outrun, or outquick them.
It will be interesting what kind of adjustments Jackson makes for game 4. Game 4, along with Game 2, is crucial in a 7 game series.
Dick Barnett says
Oh, with regard to the free throw discrepancy; when there are that many fouls by one team that usually means that team was playing out of position, or they were out-quicked, so they have to reach and grab.
Fish is just overmatched against Westbrook, it was painful to watch, because Fish is one of my favorite players. He is just too quick and fast for him. But, so are the others. Gasol had his hands full with Durant, but I don’t think Artest could have done any better.
Jason says
@249:
“Kobe caught fire from downtown”??? Really??? 4-11 from 3pt (36%) is hardly being “on fire”.
I don’t understand when Kobe is going to realize that he isn’t the player he used to be. He is still getting his points, but he has to be one of the least efficient players in the league at this point. He is still going to have his good nights, but at this point he is Allen Iverson, and I don’t mean that as a compliment. His defense isn’t any good either. He gambles too much for steals and is always out of position. Uuugh!
Jason says
@254
“It will be interesting what kind of adjustments Jackson makes for game 4. Game 4, along with Game 2, is crucial in a 7 game series.”
I don’t think it matters what adjustments PJ makes because Kobe is still going to revert to “chuck mode” once the game starts. Kobe can’t take winning if it means scoring less points/taking fewer shots. He is TOO competitive in that he HAS to compete with LeBron, Carmelo, Wade, Durant in terms of stats and cannot and WILL NOT sacrifice his stats for the benefit of the team.
passerby says
i still don’t buy kobe ain’t the superstar he used to be. there is a decline sure but let’s not make it sound like it is more a tumble down than incremental. i didn’t like his 4th quarter game. i give props to the switch and i think kobe will have to face the durant matchup more. good and bad. he might make many shots. he might take too many shots and miss. toss the coin.
i hope he sees the last 3 minutes of the game. heck they made shots! wow… speaking of too late the hero. but when facilitating, he is most efficient at this stage of his career.
would have also liked more gasol post play. drew needs to be more involved. seeing the monster throwdown gave me hope.
hey it’s the nba where the two number 1 seeds are bound to lose in one day.
okc is loud. go lakers!
Anonymous says
I agree with Zephid… this was a good game by the Lakers and just a better game by the Thunder. Kobe hurt us in a two minute stretch where he forced things against Durant. Credit Brooks for going putting Durant on Kobe like I suggested before game 1. It also created a tough cross match up where Kobe had to guard Durant on several occasions on the other end of the court. We def wasted a great game by Fisher tonight.
Tra says
We blew the opportunity for the sweep with a bad 2nd half. That surge @ the end of the 3rd quarter did us in.
People, let’s stop the crying & whining ’bout the officiating. NO EXCUSES. Plain & Simple, WE GOT OUTWORKED. WE PLAYED SOFT. Out-rebounded by 14? With 2 seven footers. SOFT. 31 3pt attempts, compared to 12 ft attempts? And last I checked, perimeter shooting isn’t our strong point. SOFT. How can we expect to get to the free throw line (and get the benefit of the doubt from the refs) when all we’re doing is hoisting threes? OKC might be young, but they’re smart enough to know not to foul on 3pt field goal attempts. Kobe was the main culprit. 41 mins, 29 fg attempts (including 11 threes) & NO free throw attempts. EXTREMELY SOFT. Everyone else in the starting 5 shot 50% or better. Once again, L.O. a non-factor.
We have to do a better job of getting the ball down low to our big men. It seems as if none of our guards are good @ making the entry pass to the post (especially when our bigs are being fronted). With that being said, our bigs need to get tougher & stop allowing their big men to push us farther & farther out of the post/off the box. Establish position & maintain it.
On to game 4, where I definitely feel that we’ll prevail, take it back to our house & then end it in 5. Which was my forecast at the beginning of the series.
LAKER 4 LIFE ….. GO HARD OR GO HOME
ken says
When ever you see Stern giving a award at a game and you see Joey Crawford as a ref you assume the home team will get three times the calls.
This was on the level of a game many years ago with Lakers and Sacramento.
Its ok we still win in 6 ga,es.
As for Kobe we fans have to except he has become a 30% shooter at this point. The problem is Kobe dosen’t except it.
JJ says
For the Lakers, this game had that “we want to win, but with the smallest amount of effort possible” kind-of-feel. Lots of 3-point attempts, few drives to the hoop and few trips to the line. And an uncharacteristic lack of execution in the end.
Maybe their goal (at least, subconsciously) was to win 1 of 2 games in OKC.
I suppose, and hope, that they’ll bring their full effort to the next game, seeing as it’s a very important game now.
Funky Chicken says
Maybe it is the injuries, but this Laker team is a long way from winning a championship this season. The only two players who can be counted on to make half their shots are guys who don’t get shots, Gasol and Bynum. They don’t get shots because the rest of the team is hell-bent on swinging the ball around the perimeter (or, worse, just holding it at the perimeter) before jacking up a long jumper.
OKC cannot contend with the Lakers low post game, yet we use the advantage only in the first quarter of each game (the only quarter we consistently win). To use your strength to start a game, and to gain early leads as a result, but then to abandon that strength the rest of the way is simply inexcusable for a veteran team. I mean, is there another team in the playoffs that plays as stupidly as the Lakers? Pound them in the middle and you slow the game down. Pound them in the middle and you are set up for transition defense. Pound them in the middle and your big guys are there to crash the glass for easy putbacks. Pound them in the middle and they’ll get in foul trouble.
This is not a complex game, except in the hands of this Laker team. As Charles Barkley says almost every night, the Lakers just make the game so much harder than it needs to be. Unless that changes, there will be no parade in June.
Q says
lamar odom is just very disappointing. no way he deserves to be a starter over bynum. this guy wants to go on vacation with his wife like RIGHT NOW
Travis Y. says
Give credit to the Thunder. They made the hustle plays and have excellent defense.
The keys to stopping Kobe are:
-make him shoot jumpers
-limit his FT attempts
-keep him out of the key
-contest every jumper
check, check, check, check
The difference in this game is very simple. Westbrook penetrates at will and is able to either get fouled, make the layup uncontested, or miss and allow his teammates to crash the offensive boards with the shifted Lakers big men.
The Thunder do a superb job of denying the entry pass. Either fronting or muscling our post players. What the Lakers lack is someone that can penetrate and make the defense make choices.
Kobe is usually that player, but he was just tired towards the end. Lamar can be that player, but his mindset is in the dumps right now. Not invested at all this game.
When we can’t get the ball into the post we settle for long out of rhythm jumpers.
The blessing and curse that is Pau Gasol. Love his touch around the rim and jumper. When he doesn’t have a good look or good post position he doesn’t force the issue. Well that sounds good, but he needs to have a realization that he is a great player and him trying to drive to the hole and make a move is sometimes better than kicking it out with 7 seconds on the shot clock. That is why Pau takes so few shots, and I’d rather Pau decide to have Kobe’s mentality of I’m going to determine the success of this team and carry the offensive load.
Bynum sent a good hard foul to Durant to prevent a dunk. I wish he was in the game to send Westbrook to the hardwood. They need to send him a message and give him a good clean hard foul. They allow way too much penetration. Credit to Westbrook for his quickness, but send that guy a message it’s the playoffs!
Not the end of the world, hopefully a lesson of what it’s gonna take to be a champion again this year.
Snoopy2006 says
264: …Lamar isn’t…a starter over Bynum…
But I agree with the sentiment, somewhat. Drew’s playing much better ball. He deserves to close out games right now. If Phil’s keeping his minutes down because of the Achilles, then I understand. But bball-wise, Drew is outplaying Lamar and should get the finish.
Townsend says
#258 – agree. It’s funny how fans think that it’s PJ’s game plan and adjustments but we haven’t seen any. It’s Kobe’s ego and Kobe’s game plan. It’s what makes him this super athlete but it’s also the Laker’s curse. He is not going to give up shots attempted for the good of the team….even if it means losing.
The interview at the half time break they asked Fisher if that was the game plan and he said, “it’s Kobe’s game plan – and added that it’s Kobe’s intelligent game plan”…ha ha ha! Kobe loves to silent the crowd – but when they aren’t falling then it kills the team. There are only so many possessions and if he’s going 9-30 or whatever, it’s going to be hard to win.
I don’t blame him solely for the loss because others aren’t hitting the shots and doing much either.
Someone made a great comment about the triangle being a line on this team. Yes, when it’s run properly, good passing, accurate shooters, it’s a thing of beauty. But I may have only seen this team run it correctly a few times this year. So have some other plays outside of the triangle to run when things are all bogged down.
Oh well – just another frustrating loss. And I do not blame the refs one iota this game. If the Lakers aren’t going to drive the ball and are going to chuck up 30 3pters, then they aren’t going to get the calls.
Darius says
Game recap is up:
http://www.forumblueandgold.com/2010/04/22/lakersthunder-game-3-these-thunder-just-dont-quit/
ken says
FYI Andrew,Pau and Odom took 27 shots shooting 50%. Kobe took 28 shots and shot 30%.
We will win or lose this year with Kobe. Charles Barkley said the Lakers are arrogent. We know who he was talking about. That being said we would be a 8th seed without him.
oKC is fronting our bigs. They way you stop that is to have a point guard who can penatrate the middle. Oh that’s right we don’t have one.
The problem now is to make sure a 8th seed dosen’t beat us with him.
Jason says
@270:
Who says we’d be an 8 seed without Kobe? Our offense has played MUCH better without him, and although I won’t go as far as to say we’d be a better team without him I don’t think he’s the end all be all either… Anymore. Yes, he has hit 6 game winners this season, but, I firmly believe that HIS chucking puts us in the position where we need a last-second game winning shot! I recognize that Kobe is an All-time great, and appreciate what he’s brought to the Lakers, but moving FORWARD he’s going to have to change his game and let our bigs carry us to wins (and leave his giant ego aside) or we’re not going anywhere…
Anonymous says
Our offense has played MUCH better without him,
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This is not true, actually. The Lakers ORTG was worse when he was out. There were articles about itin many places, including the Wall Street Journal. People often confuse ball movement for effective offense,
That said, he needs to either attack the rim, or pass more. He is settling for too many long jumpers.
Jason says
Okay, I worded that poorly. What I meant was our offense ran MUCH better without him… better?