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A large section of Lakers’ fans are only concerned about two things: how many losses the team has and how can they attain more of them. We have been over this multiple times, but it bears repeating — the more losses the team has, the better chance they have of keeping their draft pick which, in turn, offers a better chance of turning that asset into a cornerstone player who can help catapult the team back into contention sooner.

One way to get to more losses is to make trades that strip the team of some of their better players. The benefit of such deals would go beyond worsening the team — and increasing the odds of the aforementioned draft pick — they would also, hopefully, bring in even more assets that could help accelerate the current rebuild. Flip rotation player X for a draft pick; unload player Y for a young player on a rookie scale contract, is how this logic goes.

Whether or not you agree with the rooting for losses part of this story, the concept of dealing players for assets who can better help in the future is sound and a tried and true way of doing business in this league. This season, it has already started. The Denver Nuggets traded Timofey Mozgov to the Cavs for two future first round draft picks. The Celtics have been very active, first trading Rajon Rondo to the Mavs for draft picks and then off-loading players received in that deal (and others) to the Suns and Clippers for even more picks.

Again, this is not new. The question Lakers’ fans have, however, is when will they join the party? I mean, the Lakers may be a bad team, but they have some useful players who other teams might want, right? Right? Honestly, I’m not so sure.

That was me, musing on twitter earlier. It’s something I’ve been thinking about a fair amount lately, especially as the deadline for which Jordan Hill became tradable approached and passed (January 15th). The thought has long been that the Lakers, who were only playoff contenders in the world where everything went right for them and a lot of things went wrong for many other Western Conference teams, would start to sell off assets once the reality set in that they really were not going to make the playoffs this season.

However, in order to be a seller another team has to be willing to buy what you are offering. And, as I noted above, I’m wondering of opposing front offices really value the Lakers’ assets the way some fans might or even how much  the Lakers’ front office might. With that in mind, here are a few thoughts on 3 key players mentioned most when discussing potential trades with a focus on differences in their perceived value and what the alternative view might be:

1. Jordan Hill: We all know that Hill is. He remains one of the better rate rebounders in the league, especially on the offensive glass. He can finish well enough inside, has shown flashes of being able to hit the mid-range jumper, and can bring energy and hustle in bursts. He makes $9 million dollars this year and has a team option for next year. Hill could certainly help a playoff team as a third big who, like, say, Taj Gibson of the Bulls, can do good work on the glass provide some decent defense (well below Taj’s standard, here), and even close some games if his jumper is falling and he’s got enough in the tank to play out the stretch hard.

In saying this, though, Hill’s contract complicates any trade. Due to the fact that he loses his Bird Rights if dealt, Hill has to agree to any trade he’s a part of. The only way to remove this de-facto no trade clause is if the Lakers pick up his team option before trading him. Said another way, if you want to deal Hill you either need his permission or you need to guarantee his full $9 million salary for next season. Forgetting for a moment whether you think Hill is worth that much money, most teams want one of two things from a player they are trading for: a guy who is on an expiring contract or a player with multiple years on his contract*. Hill is neither of those things. And, honestly, I think that might really affect his value on the trade market.

2. Jeremy Lin: I don’t necessarily think Lin has gotten the fairest shake in L.A. He’s clearly a better player than Ronnie Price, but lost his starting job for a quarter of the season and is one of the few players who is consistently negatively called out by his head coach. Even when he’s played well, he’s not always closed games and there has been more than one occasion where you have to wonder if the coach simply doesn’t like him (the latest being where Scott intimated he thought Jeremy was soft). When it comes right down to it, Lin should have been starting since day one and likely should have been even more encouraged than he was — and I mean this via actual X’s and O’s and not just talk — to take control of the offense by running more pick and rolls and pushing the pace as much as possible. He is a good player — better than he’s shown, I think — but he has clearly not been given much of the royal jelly that could, potentially, bring out the best in him.

In saying all that, when evaluating Lin’s potential trade value, two things go against him. The first is his contract. Lin’s cap figure is $8.3 million, but he is actually being paid almost $15 million this season. That salary quirk is how the Rockets were able to pry him loose from the Knicks in free agency and is also a reason why the Rockets had to sweeten their offer to the Lakers with a first round pick in the trade that sent him to Los  Angeles this past July. It’s what will also complicate any trade because any team that trades for him will need to be ready to fork over heftier pay checks than his cap hit would imply. For a team like the Lakers (who print money) that’s not a problem. But if you’re a team who doesn’t swim in profits, that might be an issue.

Second, Lin plays the deepest position in the league and isn’t going to be a better option than the starting point guards a lot of teams already have. This will be especially true when you’re talking about a contending team. So, when you trade for Lin, the odds are you are trading for a backup. In theory, this is fine — he’d be a damn good back up for a lot of teams. But when combining what his salary is with what role he’s likely to play that changes the equation. If you’re a contending team, do you trade a real asset for the right to pay a back up point guard — even a potentially really good one — $7 million over the second half of the season?

3. Ed Davis. First off, I know what you’re thinking. We don’t want to trade Ed Davis! He’s cheap! He’s productive!! We want Davis back next year!!! I get that. But for the purpose of evaluating trade assets, it would seem that Davis is one of the better ones the Lakers have. After all, he’s cheap and productive. And while he has some holes in his game, his value on the floor goes well beyond what he’s being paid. This is someone who the team should be able to get something for! Right? #wellactually…

As a minimum salaried player, Davis has zero function as a stand alone trade asset. The only type of contract you can trade him for is another minimum salaried player or a player on a late first round or second round rookie scale contract. These aren’t players who are likely to be as good or valuable to the Lakers as a future piece than Davis is. This, of course, leads to the idea of someone trading a draft pick for Davis. The issue there, however, is that Davis has a player option for his contract next year and will almost surely not exercise it in order to become a free agent. After the year he’s having, Davis could likely fetch the full mid-level exception on the open market and maybe even more than that. If you’re a team trading for him, do you really surrender a first round pick for a half season of Ed Davis and the right to compete for him in free agency come July?

This might seem like I’m down on the Lakers’ trade assets. I am not. I think Hill, Lin, or Davis could help several teams out there. Without getting into details or speculating, I have hopped on the trade machine and found new homes for all of them where I think they would make the type of impact that could help their new teams make deeper playoff runs. However, the reality is that trades in this league happen for a variety of reasons but often don’t happen for even more of them. And while the Lakers’ assets may be good ones, there are real barriers that could hold them up.

In other words, you may want the Lakers to make a deal (or more) before the February deadline. They may even want to make one. By many accounts, they actually have already been trying to. But, if nothing actually goes down, that shouldn’t be a surprise.

*It might seem counter-intuitive to think teams want players with long term deals, but a deal like Hill’s — where he can be a free agent next summer — can often be a headache for a team. Next summer Hill will be a free agent and whatever team that has him has to think about whether they want to invest in him further or not. If it’s not, they need to consider trading him again or risk having him walk in free agency for nothing. If you let him walk, you just surrendered real assets in a trade for the right to pay a player $9 million and then have him go away with no return. That’s not what we call getting value.

The Lakers are in Phoenix tonight, playing the second of four consecutive games on the road. The first game was a loss at Utah, a game that saw the team struggle mightily to contain Gordan Hayward while also allowing the Derrick Favors and Trey Burke to have good nights (though Burke did so rather inefficiently). Of course Kobe did not play in that game and, though he has not played since Thursday, he will not suit up tonight either. Ronnie Price will also sit out, so expect Jeremy Lin and Wayne Ellington to be the starters against the Suns just like they were against the Jazz.

Speaking of the Suns, commenter Calvin Chang had a nice summary of what the Suns will try to do offensively:

We all know what’s going to happen. In a half-court set, Suns like to run the high pick and roll with PG (Bledsoe, Dragic or Thomas) and big (Alex Len or Miles) and have space-out shooters in the Morris bros and Gerald Green. Our PG will get stuck in the pick. Their PG will make the read on how our defense reacts to the high pick and roll, then either shoot a 3, or penetrate and get a layup, or kick out to a 3pt shooter. We’ve seen it in the past 2 losses to the Suns. Can Byron come up with a strategy to counter this?

Indeed, it will be interesting to see how the Lakers handle the Suns’ three point guards and whether or not they can close down the lane while still recovering back to the three point line to contest jumpers. In the previous matchups , the Lakers have not done a good job of this, either ceding too many open threes or allowing the Bledsoe, Dragic, Thomas trio to get deep into the lane and either score or collapse the defense enough to generate a good look for a big man camping or a shooter spotting up. One way to try and slow this action down is to go under screens — especially on Bledsoe — to see if they can make the defense pay with long jumpers. Another tactic is for the big man to play well below the screen and hope that he can cut off the driving angle long enough for the ball handler’s man to recover after the screen. These aren’t perfect solutions — there aren’t any with this Lakers’ defense — but they could offer varied looks to keep the Suns guessing.

Offensively, if the Lakers are going to keep this game close, they will need some better play from Jeremy Lin. Against the Jazz, Lin scored only six points on 10 shot attempts and did not go to the foul line. He also only had three assists. Without Kobe, Lin needs to find ways to score and be a good enough set up man to keep the defense honest. He needs to get into the paint and, even if he’s not hitting his shots, draw extra defenders to allow his bigs lanes to the offensive glass. If he’s not doing these things, his utility falls off a great deal since he’s not the best defensive player.

Another key to the offense will be the Lakers’ bigs finding ways to remain active on the offensive glass and get some easy baskets on put backs. The Suns do not play “big” very often and typically have a stretch-y PF on the floor to aid in their spacing. Hill, Boozer, and Black need to take advantage of this by not only crashing the boards, but coming up with enough of them to get some points. This will not only help on the scoreboard, but will force the Suns to gang rebound more which, in turn, should slow down their transition offense where they typically kill the Lakers.

While shorthanded, the Lakers should be well rested and have enough legs — especially with Clarkson taking some of Kobe’s minutes — to get up and down the court and run with the Suns for stretches. Whether this is enough to keep the game close remains to be seen, but if this game is a loss it should not be for effort, simply due to talent.

Where you can watch: 7:00pm start time on TNT. Also listen on ESPN Radio 710AM Los Angeles.

When Nick Young was originally signed by the Lakers, I had my questions about pursuing him in the first place but mostly hoped that his ability to create shots combined with the relative value of his contract would make him a nice enough signing. Young wen out and surprised under then coach Mike D’Antoni, providing what was pretty much the best season of his career. This led to him being re-signed this past summer to a deal that I was more skeptical about then his original contract with the team:

That said, I am not in love with this deal. Young is already 29 and, if the above report is true, the 4th season is a player option. Maybe a 32 year old Swaggy P decides he wants to test the market one last time before his contract expires, but that seems doubtful to me. In essence, then, the Lakers are paying Young roughly $5 million a year for the next four years. As much as an argument could be made for paying a bench scorer of his caliber this much money, his age makes it more of a gamble than, say, if he were even two years younger.

At this stage of his career, Young is what he is as a player and, to this point this year, he’s shown a regression off last season’s numbers. He’s turned back into more of the inefficient gunner he was with the Wizards and has offered fewer of the big games that he offered a year ago. In a way, then, my concerns about his contract and whether he could maintain his production have turned out to have some merit.

In saying all that, however, Young has been more fun to root for than I ever could have imagined. He loves being a Laker, always has a smile on his face, does not back down from anyone, and does it all with a confidence that, even when unfounded, helps create a fun environment. Beyond that, his teammates love him and he brings a levity to a season that doesn’t offer very much of it.

Now that he’s a Laker, Young has become somewhat of a household name. Due to the status of the team’s brand, he’s playing on national TV a lot, he dates one of the worlds most recognized music stars, and his aforementioned personality makes people gravitate to him. With that, it’s no surprise that Sports Illustrated decided they would dedicate a feature to Young. And, boy, is it good. The great Lee Jenkins got great access to Young and gives us insight into the player, the man, and what has made him what he is today.

A sampling:

In preschool Nick was already picking out his own clothes — scarred by the memory of an alligator-print shirt his mom once made him wear — and accompanying his oldest brother, Charles Jr., on dates. Junior, 17 years older than Nick, was like his second father. He worked at the Hamilton High cafeteria and rushed home every day with extra cookies. By the time Nick turned five, Junior was engaged and his fiancée pregnant. He was taking a class at Jim Gilliam Recreation Center, and after he finished one day his fiancée was waiting to pick him up in the parking lot. She heard the shots. A 14-year-old Blood, who went by the name Trouble, mistook Junior for a rival gang member and killed him.

The family splintered. One brother, John, suffered a breakdown and was committed to a mental institution. Another brother, Andre, moved to Milwaukee to live with his paternal grandmother. Charles and Mae tried to preserve Nick’s childhood. Charles, by then a truck driver, took him on two-week cross-country trips and paid him $200 per haul. Mae played hide-and-seek with his Fruit Roll?Ups and challenged him to rap battles in the living room. Nick saw how they disguised their grief. He liked to draw, particularly caricatures, usually of himself. He sketched self-portraits with a massive head on a tiny body. They made everybody laugh. Nick brought the caricature to life, becoming the clown prince of Robertson Park, dribbling balls off opponents’ heads, sliding across the court, sinking improbable shots and then sprinting out of the gym. This was the And1 era, and Nick acted like he was auditioning for the street-ball tour. “He talked so much jazz,” recalls Nick’s brother Terrell. “He’d start all these fights, and I’d have to finish them.” Cedric Ceballos, an L.A. native who spent 11 years in the NBA, was a summer regular at Robertson. “If that boy ever gets serious,” Ceballos told Terrell, “he’ll be something.”

There’s so much more to Jenkins’ profile and it is well worth your time. Young may not be what all of us want him to be on the court and there’s a group of folks whose ire will always be drawn by his antics. But, in a season that offers Lakers’ losses at a historic rate, Young can be a nice reprieve from the down moments.

If nothing else, the Lakers loss to the Cavs on Thursday night provided what too few games this year have: fun. Kobe’s wonderful stat-line of 19 points and (career high!) 17 assists wasn’t just a joy to watch, he was a full of joy while displaying the skill and basketball acumen needed to compile such numbers. The entire night he mostly smiled and had playful interactions with teammates and LeBron James, with the two once in a generation players sharing an embrace and some quick conversation when the final horn blew. After the game Kobe commented that part of his demeanor was due to the stage of his career and the state of his team, noting that if they were competing fro a championship, his mood likely would have been different. But, of course, that isn’t the case.

The game also served as a reminder that nothing lasts forever. After leading his team to a win down the stretch, LeBron spoke of Kobe joking that like himself, the King was now “old”. LeBron would add that a player like Kobe who has smarts and skill can remain effective for a long time, foreshadowing his own career in some respects. Everything must end and we’re reminded of that even more today as Kobe rests in Los Angeles as his team is in Utah to play the second half of a back to back.

This Jazz game is probably most important to fans of Lakers’ losses. The team currently has the fourth worst record in the league, a game “up” in the loss column over, you guessed it, the Jazz. If the Lakers find a way to leave Salt Lake with an “L” they’ll tighten their grasp on that 4th worst record and, with that, further aid in keeping their pick at the end of the year. There’s a lot of basketball to be played, but much like jostling for a playoff seed the same will be done for draft positioning. At least that’s one way to look at it.

The game itself will hinge on which team’s big men have the better night and whether the Lakers, with Kobe out, have anyone on the perimeter who can match what Gordan Hayward will likely provide. Starting with the former, the Jazz offer a trio of nice young bigs, with Derrick Favors, Enes Kanter, and Rudy Gobert providing solid two way play and some rim protection (at least Favors and Gobert) too. They will make life hard on Ed Davis, Jordan Hill, Carlos Boozer, and Tarik Black all night, especially when it comes to battling on the glass and scoring in the paint. If the Lakers’ bigs can’t hang with their counterparts, this game likely won’t even be close. And that’s before we get to Hayward.

The Jazz SF has really come into his own this year, making good on his big contract and his summer of training with Team USA. The Butler product always had the all-court game, but his production would rise and fall and it was a real question on if there was another big step forward in his game. This year has answered, at least partially, that question as he boasts averages of 19 points, 5 rebounds, and 4 assists with his typical heady play on both sides of the ball. He takes on the opponent’s best perimeter player and hands out his share of punishment, too.

This is what the Lakers are up against. The Jazz aren’t a particularly good team record wise, but their trajectory is pointing upwards. This is more than can be said of the Lakers currently. On the 2nd night of a back to back and on the road, we’ll see how much the Lakers can conjure in the form of competitiveness. It’d be nice, though, if they brought of some of last night’s fun too. Even without Kobe.

Where you can watch: 6:00pm start time on TWC Sportsnet. Also listen on ESPN Radio 710AM Los Angeles.

After facing LeBron’s old team on Tuesday, the Lakers face his new (and, I guess, old too) team tonight when the Cavaliers visit Staples Center. And while I can go into the struggles of both teams — the Cavs have lost nine of 10 games (including their last six) and the Lakers are, well, you know — all that I’m really thinking about is this:

No one knows what the future holds, but this will be one of the last times that Kobe and LeBron face off. Kobe’s contract is up after next season, leaving, at most, three more match ups between him and LeBron after tonight’s game. But with the way these guys have missed games this year and next year potentially offering only more questions, there really aren’t any guarantees.

So, wouldn’t it be nice to get one more classic tilt between these two teams? One more game where both give a classic performance that comes down to the closing minutes? Wouldn’t that not only give fans a nice (potentially) parting gift, but give these teams some sense of life after both have struggled mightily lately? I don’t know about you, but this is what I’d like to see tonight.

And it’s certainly what I’d rather discuss rather than what has devolved into constant questions about the directions of both organizations — especially, at least nationally, the Cavs. As noted above, they are struggling severely and actually have less wins (2) than the Lakers (3) since Christmas. Every interaction between head coach David Blatt and LeBron is critiqued and the use (or, really, misuse) of Kevin Love has been so thoroughly discussed that it’s not even a front page item anymore.

So, for one night at least, just give me some good basketball with an old-fashioned battle between a couple of stars. I understand it might be too much to ask for, but I’m doing it anyway. C’mon basketball gods, give us what we want this one time.

Where you can watch: 7:30pm start time on TNT. Also listen on ESPN Radio 710AM Los Angeles.